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Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by yommyuk: 9:46pm On Mar 19, 2011
Have you ever been criticized because of how God made you?

When someone’s personality gets him into trouble, in a way you can’t blame him, but nevertheless he suffers the consequences of that nature. God allows us to see and experience the effects of our faults and uses this revelation to mature us.

Take Daniel. He served three successive kings in Babylon, the greatest kingdom on earth. For decades he solved royal riddles, interpreted the kings’ dreams, and served in their courts. When King Darius wanted to place Daniel over the whole kingdom, the other administrators had had it with this teacher’s pet. They convinced the king to institute a decree requiring everyone in the land to worship him and him alone, knowing full well that Daniel’s devotion to his God would condemn him. Darius realized too late that his friend Daniel would not bow down, and therefore would require a death sentence.

Daniel’s strength which was loyalty earned him his night with the lions. But that same loyalty to his God fired up his faith and enabled him to persevere. His response to the unjust treatment illustrates two best practices a person can adopt when the lions start calling. Daniel remained true to his idealistic self. Who do you aspire to be? In the heat of the moment, Daniel lived out who he wanted to be: a loyal follower of the Lord. Though he had ample time to change the object of his worship and save himself from execution, he had decided long ago that God alone deserved his loyalty. No king deserved nor would ever earn the same dedication. He was willing to risk his life for the sake of this commitment. Can you?

A true Christian who won’t compromise values or integrity will ultimately be more satisfied with his career and life. Daniel didn’t resist those who manipulated his downfall. Why didn’t he demand an audience with the king to protest the ridiculous law? Because he knew the politics of the palace. The decree could not be reversed, even by the king himself.

CONCLUSION

How can you effectively resist this kind of incessant pressure without damaging your relationships or reputation?

The answer is to walk forward with the poise of Daniel. When we keep our composure, our antagonists may back off or even posture as friends, thinking we’re stronger than they thought. Sometimes, surviving the lions’ den strengthens us, and people think twice about pushing us in again.

You may often end up in the same spot again, tested in some new way. Each instance is a struggle of emotion, pride, and perseverance that collectively serve to mature you hence making you a better Christian.

Daniel’s greatest strength –> his extreme sense of loyalty –> was his enemy’s chosen point of attack. But this attack only proved his loyalty to God was unshakeable, and resulted not only in his deliverance from the den, but a promotion in the palace.


God Bless wink
Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by Sweetnecta: 11:42pm On Mar 19, 2011
^^^^ you should know that daniel was neither a christian nor a christian soldier. you should have used a christian. maybe the companions should have been your best choice.

i know you decided to ignore them, which is a good reason you should seek other, like daniel, but it would have been better if you looked at the companions [ra] of the messenger [as], to see firmness in resolve.

while you have betrayer, denier, deserters in the other camp where no one of the witness the crucifixion of one of the three; simon who carried the cross after the one was carrying it earlier stumbled and fell down tired and unable to go on, jesus son of the father [bar abas is son of the father when translated], or jesus the anointed,

the companions of the last messenger [as] in his last time suffered 13 years in makka, 2 more years in madina before they dare to defend themselves, whereby many died even when they won any battle, and lost lives when they lose any battle, going through test throughout till this present time.

the difference is in what the focus is. 3 is always more than 1. but the greatest Focus is in 1, alone.
Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by Jenwitemi(m): 11:44pm On Mar 19, 2011
What? Is yommyuk going to war?
Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by yommyuk: 1:39am On Mar 20, 2011
Sweetnecta:

^^^^ you should know that daniel was neither a christian nor a christian soldier. you should have used a christian. maybe the companions should have been your best choice.

i know you decided to ignore them, which is a good reason you should seek other, like daniel, but it would have been better if you looked at the companions [ra] of the messenger [as], to see firmness in resolve.

while you have betrayer, denier, deserters in the other camp where no one of the witness the crucifixion of one of the three; simon who carried the cross after the one was carrying it earlier stumbled and fell down tired and unable to go on, jesus son of the father [bar abas is son of the father when translated], or jesus the anointed,

the companions of the last messenger [as] in his last time suffered 13 years in makka, 2 more years in madina before they dare to defend themselves, whereby many died even when they won any battle, and lost lives when they lose any battle, going through test throughout till this present time.

the difference is in what the focus is. 3 is always more than 1. but the greatest Focus is in 1, alone.


Was Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Dauda (David) muslims?

Are u for real? Stop showing ignorance bro. Let engage intellectually.


Anyway, let me go down to your level of understanding.

Do you know what happened to the disciples of Jesus? How they died?

St Peter was crucified head down. (suffered more physical pain than Jesus)

Suffering for Christ for a true Christian is normal and a honor

Acts 5:41
“So they left the presence of the Sanhedrin, rejoicing that they had been found worthy to suffer dishonor for the sake of the name.”

Philippians 1:29
“For to you has been granted, for the sake of Christ, not only to believe in him but also to suffer for him.”


This popular believe and trend that goes on in the Church that if you follow Christ or become a Christian all things become new. They most of the time misinterpret this for earthly rewards, God help us all (myself included). If one wants to truly follow Christ,  na real suffer head. Speak the truth and see people for whom they really are. That is why most speak prosperity just to keep the members happy.

All of us compromise sometimes and it is the grace of God that sees us through. Hardcore Christains are rare in the world we live in today. That is why people like you don;t like what you see and generalize. But one thing I know for sure the Kingdom of God is at hand.

2 Corinthians 4:16-18
“Therefore, we are not discouraged; rather, although our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day.  For this momentary light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, as we look not to what is seen but to what is unseen; for what is seen is transitory, but what is unseen is eternal.”


2 Timothy 3:12
“In fact, all who want to live religiously in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.”
Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by yommyuk: 2:03am On Mar 20, 2011
Jenwitemi:

What? Is yommyuk going to war?

No reason to worry "OMO IYA"
I was actually referring to those who are still within the body of christ.

As for u, I should be the least of your qualms. embarassed

The devil has already had you as his agent. Worry about him.

Another quote for you bro from the book you so much despise cool

Galatians 3:3
"How foolsih can you be? After starting your Christian lives in the Spirit, why are you trying to become perfect by your own human effort. Have you experience so much for nothing? Surely it was not in vain, was it?


1 Timothy 5:15
"For I am afriad that some of them(u) have already gone astray and now follow SATAN"


Matthew 5:13
You are the salt of the earth. But what good is salt if it has lost its flavor? Can you make it salty again? It will be thrown out and trampled underfoot as (WHAT?) ------>>> WORTHLESS"



It is only a dog that returns to its vomit. --->>> Sleep on that bro
Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by Sweetnecta: 4:38am On Mar 20, 2011
@Yommyuk: [Quote]Was Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Dauda (David) muslims?[/Quote]For sure Abraham was not a jew [by blood or religion], a christian [i really should not even have to explain this christian thing and Abraham to you, or should i, if you remember the people of Antioch if Jesus, who was born just a few few years more than 2 K years ago was not a christian?]. who was possibly the first Jew? at best judah the son of Jacob. and Jacob was not but the grandson of Abraham.
at best Moses was a jew by tribe, but not by religion. in the lifetime of Moses, his community was never called a jew, neither by tribal tradition nor by religious tradition. Moses was a messenger of The God Who spoke with him as Unseen in the Burning Bush [yet no vegetation was consumed. this was a miracle all in its own]. part of the tradition of worship in the religious of the jew is to bop the head toward the wall. please show a verse where Moses bopped his head, other than prostrate his face, like Jesus did, the same thing muslims do even to the present day.
if you do not know, there are many videos on youtube where the jews are seen praying like muslims, unfortunately some of them will prostrate their face first and then bow, whereas they were told in the Quran [Surah Imran verse revealed in Madina about joining muslims that they should now join the people [muslims] who bow before prostrating] to believe in the messenger [as] now in Madina, but they refused.
let me ask you if the religion of David is not the same as the religion of Moses, which should be the same as the religion of Abraham, which should be the same religion of Noah who was saved away from the destructive flood, and definitely the same religion of our father, Adam the first man?



[Quote]Are u for real? Stop showing ignorance bro. Let engage intellectually.
Anyway, let me go down to your level of understanding.
Do you know what happened to the disciples of Jesus? How they died?
St Peter was crucified head down. (suffered more physical pain than Jesus)
Suffering for Christ for a true Christian is normal and a honor[/Quote]they did not even hang around when the 'master' was being arrested. and you didn't find any of them worthy to use, instead of Daniel, or you forgo already. the highest quality of a follower is always when his leader is leading him, not after. if none of them stood firm to support their leader in the time of his greatest need of them, how convenient is it to suddenly became a lion when they were mere timid lambs around him? i'm sure he was a worthy leader, shouldnt the followers meet the quality that we expected from those who follow such a person?



[Quote]Acts 5:41
“So they left the presence of the Sanhedrin, rejoicing that they had been found worthy to suffer dishonor for the sake of the name.”
Philippians 1:29
“For to you has been granted, for the sake of Christ, not only to believe in him but also to suffer for him.”

This popular believe and trend that goes on in the Church that if you follow Christ or become a Christian all things become new. They most of the time misinterpret this for earthly rewards, God help us all (myself included). If one wants to truly follow Christ, na real suffer head. Speak the truth and see people for whom they really are. That is why most speak prosperity just to keep the members happy.
All of us compromise sometimes and it is the grace of God that sees us through. Hardcore Christains are rare in the world we live in today. That is why people like you don;t like what you see and generalize. But one thing I know for sure the Kingdom of God is at hand.[/Quote]the first bold is by itself an evidence against them who would not even suffer along with jesus who has been their master all along! i will say that their sudden ability to suffer as in above verses if not sign hypocrisy, it has to be just punishment for their lack of true faith, may it was the reason jesus called them 'ye of little faith' and has predicted that on the day of judgment he will say to them 'i never knew ye'. people could actually be punished for evil right here on earth while people may say that they are suffering for their faith.



[Quote]2 Corinthians 4:16-18
“Therefore, we are not discouraged; rather, although our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day. For this momentary light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, as we look not to what is seen but to what is unseen; for what is seen is transitory, but what is unseen is eternal.”[/Quote]did the writer see the unseen, especially when he was not a prophet, or even a follower of Jesus before his Lord lifted him up to heaven? can we really in good conscience believe the above, especially in the light that the writer said to do away with what jesus even bounded himself by of the laws of the old prophets, when he warned that the least of the jot must be kept, and whosoever abolish or suggest the abolition will be the least in the kingdom of heaven? is yommyuk ready to be from the least of the kingdom of heaven?
further, the same writer said 'if what we preach, [different from what jesus brought [being preached in jerusalem, while another is being preached in antioch]] makes people come to christianity [it is immoral and unGodly to harvest souls by deception], why i'm i being persecuted?'. can such a person be considered honest especially when he shouted peter the rock down, who is preaching a different gospel?



[Quote]2 Timothy 3:12
“In fact, all who want to live religiously in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.”[/Quote]yommyuk will claim that he is experiencing persecution soon. yommy oo. tell me where christianity is experiencing persecution, today, if you can factor out other matters except religion, except maybe in israel? each place you can show i will give you twice for islam. i'm talking actual carpel persecution because they are muslims.
Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by yommyuk: 6:51am On Mar 20, 2011
Sweetnecta:

@Yommyuk: For sure Abraham was not a jew [by blood or religion], a christian [i really should not even have to explain this christian thing and Abraham to you, or should i, if you remember the people of Antioch if Jesus, who was born just a few few years more than 2 K years ago was not a christian?]. who was possibly the first Jew? at best judah the son of Jacob. and Jacob was not but the grandson of Abraham.
at best Moses was a jew by tribe, but not by religion. in the lifetime of Moses, his community was never called a jew, neither by tribal tradition nor by religious tradition. Moses was a messenger of The God Who spoke with him as Unseen in the Burning Bush [yet no vegetation was consumed. this was a miracle all in its own]. part of the tradition of worship in the religious of the jew is to bop the head toward the wall. please show a verse where Moses bopped his head, other than prostrate his face, like Jesus did, the same thing muslims do even to the present day.
if you do not know, there are many videos on youtube where the jews are seen praying like muslims, unfortunately some of them will prostrate their face first and then bow, whereas they were told in the Quran [Surah Imran verse revealed in Madina about joining muslims that they should now join the people [muslims] who bow before prostrating] to believe in the messenger [as] now in Madina, but they refused.
let me ask you if the religion of David is not the same as the religion of Moses, which should be the same as the religion of Abraham, which should be the same religion of Noah who was saved away from the destructive flood, and definitely the same religion of our father, Adam the first man?


they did not even hang around when the 'master' was being arrested. and you didn't find any of them worthy to use, instead of Daniel, or you forgo already. the highest quality of a follower is always when his leader is leading him, not after. if none of them stood firm to support their leader in the time of his greatest need of them, how convenient is it to suddenly became a lion when they were mere timid lambs around him? i'm sure he was a worthy leader, shouldnt the followers meet the quality that we expected from those who follow such a person?


the first bold is by itself an evidence against them who would not even suffer along with jesus who has been their master all along! i will say that their sudden ability to suffer as in above verses if not sign hypocrisy, it has to be just punishment for their lack of true faith, may it was the reason jesus called them 'ye of little faith' and has predicted that on the day of judgment he will say to them 'i never knew ye'. people could actually be punished for evil right here on earth while people may say that they are suffering for their faith.


did the writer see the unseen, especially when he was not a prophet, or even a follower of Jesus before his Lord lifted him up to heaven? can we really in good conscience believe the above, especially in the light that the writer said to do away with what jesus even bounded himself by of the laws of the old prophets, when he warned that the least of the jot must be kept, and whosoever abolish or suggest the abolition will be the least in the kingdom of heaven? is yommyuk ready to be from the least of the kingdom of heaven?
further, the same writer said 'if what we preach, [different from what jesus brought [being preached in jerusalem, while another is being preached in antioch]] makes people come to christianity [it is immoral and unGodly to harvest souls by deception], why i'm i being persecuted?'. can such a person be considered honest especially when he shouted peter the rock down, who is preaching a different gospel?


yommyuk will claim that he is experiencing persecution soon. yommy oo. tell me where christianity is experiencing persecution, today, if you can factor out other matters except religion, except maybe in israel? each place you can show i will give you twice for islam. i'm talking actual carpel persecution because they are muslims.


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Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by yommyuk: 7:46am On Mar 20, 2011
For sure Abraham was not a jew [by blood or religion

i will ignore the religion part.

Referring to the bible which is the "ABSOLUTE WORD OF GOD" --  Romans 9:4-5 states THE JEWS ---
"They are the people of Israel, chosen to be God's adopted children. God revealed his glory to them. He made covenants with them and gave them his law(thru MOSES/MUSA), He gave them the privilege of worshiping him and recieving his wonderful promises. "ABRAHAM", Isaac, and Jacob are their ANCESTORS, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned.  And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise. (Amen)

There are also historical facts that in Jewish tradition, Jewish ancestry is traced to the Biblical patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the second millennium BCE..

We can also trace Abraham ancestory back to Noah's son -- SHEM - Genesis 11 (8 or 9 generation from Noah)

they did not even hang around when the 'master' was being arrested.
Come bro, what's up
John 21 spoke of the "Restoration of Peter", the first appoinedt shepherd by "Christ" himself". These are the obvious areas where Islam and Christianity differ. Your lot preach by Jihad, sword, and Blood, but We preach PEACE be unto u.

i will say that their sudden ability to suffer as in above verses if not sign hypocrisy
Wrong. It is their boldness at the aftermath that enhanced the growth of Christainity. They witnessed the ASCENSION and Angels came down to confirm it.

Acts 4:13
“The members of the council were amazed when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, for they could see that they were ordinary men with no special training in the Scriptures. They also recognised them as the men who had been with Jesus.

LISTEN TO THIS BRO – WONDERFUL
Acts 4:19
Do you think God wants us to obey you rather than him? We cannot stop telling about everything we have SEEN AND HEARD. – AMEN

the first bold is by itself an evidence against them who would not even suffer along with jesus who has been their master all along! i will say that their sudden ability to suffer as in above verses if not sign hypocrisy, it has to be just punishment for their lack of true faith, may it was the reason jesus called them 'ye of little faith' and has predicted that on the day of judgment he will say to them 'i never knew ye'. people could actually be punished for evil right here on earth while people may say that they are suffering for their faith.

therefore the above makes no sense

I will back to give u more info
Re: Christian Soliders, Stay Loyal Like Daniel by Sweetnecta: 12:18am On Mar 21, 2011
@yommyuk; « #7 on: Today at 07:46:43 AM »
[Quote]Quote
For sure Abraham was not a jew [by blood or religion

i will ignore the religion part.

Referring to the bible which is the "ABSOLUTE WORD OF GOD" -- Romans 9:4-5 states THE JEWS ---
"They are the people of Israel, chosen to be God's adopted children. God revealed his glory to them. He made covenants with them and gave them his law(thru MOSES/MUSA), He gave them the privilege of worshiping him and recieving his wonderful promises. "ABRAHAM", Isaac, and Jacob are their ANCESTORS, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise. (Amen)

There are also historical facts that in Jewish tradition, Jewish ancestry is traced to the Biblical patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the second millennium BCE,

We can also trace Abraham ancestory back to Noah's son -- SHEM - Genesis 11 (8 or 9 generation from Noah)[/Quote]If a single word or sentence can be quoted from the Bible to contain an opinion of other[s] than God, the idea you put forward about the absoluteness of the Bible, as in the bold above definitely dies. How about the roman verse about? Even the Genesis 11 as well since we do not read God talking in the manner of either verse. The Arabs can trace his lineage to the very same Abraham, as long as you dont forget Ishmael the first and must be only son even for a time. Covenant was sealed by circumcision. It was Ishmael that got circumcised the very same day as Papa Abraham. I hope you are getting this to your heart? And israelites is more dynamic than Jews. Jew is a tribe or nation from the 12 Tribes or nations of israelites. A benjamite is not a person from the tribe of judah and or a Levite.
for instance all of us are children of Adam, and them an offspring of Noah. those of us who claim to be monotheist say that Abraham is our father in faith. It is this very reason that we are circumcised and Ibrahim [AS] from the Quran says to God; I have settled part of my family in a barren land. He continued to supplicate God Almighty to bless the place and today we know that Makka is blessed, nothing less than Jerusalem. The jews have a joke; they say that in their journey of 40 years, if only they had gone in the direction of Makka [even though they were there], they would be owner of the Petrodollar today.



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they did not even hang around when the 'master' was being arrested.
Come bro, what's up
John 21 spoke of the "Restoration of Peter", the first appointed shepherd by "Christ" himself". These are the obvious areas where Islam and Christianity differ. Your lot preach by Jihad, sword, and Blood, but We preach PEACE be unto u.[/Quote]The same peter that paul said i will tell him to his face? I guess thats part of the absolute word of God, too? Tell me if peace be unto u is what the christians are spreading in Afghanistan and iraq for a start, the reason so many have died in these places? Whats As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah of the muslims, if you spread peace of the christianity by the bombs od shock and awe?



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i will say that their sudden ability to suffer as in above verses if not sign hypocrisy
Wrong. It is their boldness at the aftermath that enhanced the growth of Christainity. They witnessed the ASCENSION and Angels came down to confirm it.[quote][/Quote]No wonder jesus said he will say to them when they approach him saying that they cast out demons in his name, that he does not know them. He is talking to the christians, including the people he addressed as people of little faith seeking a sign. he was not talking about the muslims since we do not seek to do anything in his name, anyhow.



[Quote]Acts 4:13
“The members of the council were amazed when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, for they could see that they were ordinary men with no special training in the Scriptures. They also recognised them as the men who had been with Jesus.[/Quote]Didnt Jesus teach them the laws of the old prophets [Torah] at least which i am thinking you call "scripture" above. considering that he said no one should abolish even a jot from it? This verse actually is an argument against their sincerity with Jesus who they all run away from in his hour of need. No wonder they needed to be corrected by the ghost at pentecost.



[Quote]LISTEN TO THIS BRO – WONDERFUL
Acts 4:19
“Do you think God wants us to obey you rather than him? We cannot stop telling about everything we have SEEN AND HEARD. – AMEN[/Quote]The acts, etc are proof[s] that the Bible could not possibly be absolutely the Word of God, especially the construct of Acts 4;19.



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the first bold is by itself an evidence against them who would not even suffer along with jesus who has been their master all along! i will say that their sudden ability to suffer as in above verses if not sign hypocrisy, it has to be just punishment for their lack of true faith, may it was the reason jesus called them 'ye of little faith' and has predicted that on the day of judgment he will say to them 'i never knew ye'. people could actually be punished for evil right here on earth while people may say that they are suffering for their faith.

therefore the above makes no sense
I will back to give u more info[/Quote]considering that the master who was sent by God would have known those who truly suffered, they blew their chance as they ran away. for them and you after this chance that was lost turn around to call them people of gallantry is actually showing you do not know what gallantry means. When jesus was whipped, that was gallantry. when peter ran away, and or denied him, that was the opposite of gallantry.

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