The Myth:

Muhammad was a peaceful man who taught his followers to be the same. Muslims lived peacefully for centuries, fighting only in self-defense - and when it was necessary. True Muslims would never act aggressively.

The Truth:

Muhammad organized 65 military campaigns in the last ten years of his life and personally led 27 of them. The more power that he attained, the smaller the excuse needed to go to battle, until finally he began attacking tribes merely because they were not part of his growing empire.

After Muhammad’s death, his successor immediately went to war with former allied tribes which wanted to go their own way. Abu Bakr called them 'apostates' and slaughtered anyone who did not want to remain Muslim. Eventually, he was successful in holding the empire together through blood and violence.

The prophet of Islam's most faithful followers and even his own family soon turned on each other as well. There were four caliphs (leaders) in the first twenty-five years, each of which was a trusted companion of his. Three of these four were murdered. The third caliph was murdered by those allied with the son of the first caliph. The fourth caliph was murdered in the midst of a conflict with the fifth caliph, who began a 100-year dynasty of excess and debauchery that was brought to an end in a gruesome, widespread bloodbath by descendents of Muhammad’s uncle (who was not even a Muslim).

Muhammad’s own daughter, Fatima, and his son-in-law, Ali, who both survived the pagan hardship during the Meccan years safe and sound, did not survive Islam after the death of Muhammad. Fatima died of stress from persecution within three months, and Ali was later assassinated by Muslim rivals. Their son (Muhammad’s grandson) was killed in battle with the faction that became today’s Sunnis. His people became Shias. The relatives and personal friends of Muhammad were mixed into both warring groups, which then fractured further into hostile sub-divisions as Islam expanded.

Muslim apologists, who like to say that is impossible for today's terrorists to be Muslim when they kill fellow Muslims, would have a very tough time explaining the war between Fatima's followers and Aisha to a knowledgeable audience. Muhammad explicitly held up both his favorite daughter and his favorite wife as model Muslim women, yet they were invoked respectively by each side in the violent civil war that followed his death. Which one was the prophet of God so horribly wrong about?

Muhammad left his men with instructions to take the battle against Christians, Persians, Jews and polytheists (which came to include millions of unfortunate Hindus). For the next four centuries, Muslim armies steamrolled over unsuspecting neighbors, plundering them of loot and slaves, and forcing the survivors to either convert or pay tribute at the point of a sword.

Companions of Muhammad lived to see Islam declare war on every major religion in the world in just the first few decades following his death - pressing the Jihad against Hindus, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and Buddhists.

By the time of the Crusades (when the Europeans began fighting back), Muslims had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world by sword, from Syria to Spain, and across North Africa. Millions of Christians were enslaved by Muslims, and tens of millions of Africans. The Arab slave-trading routes would stay open for 1300 years until pressure from Christian-based countries forced Islamic nations to declare the practice illegal (in theory). To this day, the Muslim world has never apologized for the victims of Jihad and slavery.

There is not another religion in the world that consistently produces terrorism in the name of God as does Islam. The most dangerous Muslims are nearly always those who interpret the Quran most transparently. They are the fundamentalists or purists of the faith, and believe in Muhammad’s mandate to spread Islamic rule by the sword, putting to death those who will not submit. In the absence of true infidels, they will even turn on each other.

The holy texts of Islam are saturated with verses of violence and hatred toward those outside the faith, as well as the "hypocrites" (Muslims who don't act like Muslims). In sharp contrast to the Bible, which generally moves from relatively violent episodes to far more peaceful mandates, the Quran travels the exact opposite path (violence is first forbidden, then permitted, then mandatory). The handful of earlier verses that speak of tolerance are overwhelmed by an avalanche of later ones that carry a much different message. While Old Testament verses of blood and guts are generally bound by historical context within the text itself, Quranic imperatives to violence usually appear open-ended and subject to personal interpretation.

From the history of the faith to its most sacred writings, those who want to believe in "peaceful Islam" have a lot more to ignore than do the terrorists. By any objective measure, the "Religion of Peace" has been the harshest, bloodiest religion the world has ever known. In Islam there is no peace unless Muslims have power - and even then,

@ LagosShia and co

Anyway Enough said, I resign, I promise not to scare you and friends any longer, I hereby leave the forum for others to read and make their judgement.

A gentle and beloved sister lolafowowe has prompted me to back down and instead pray for you all.

Much LOVE in Christ name.

Brother FROSBEL.

N.B
Sorry I will not be replying in great detail to comments, too busy

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-736262.0.html

you can keep interpreting things as you wish.you undoubtedly have all the time in the world to play around and have fun online as an IT consultant who lives online.

you have padlocked your head and your heart.so no matter how solid the evidence one provides to refute you,you keep bringing the same lies over and over again.how many threads would you create on the same topics already discussed in pages?

you're bent on following a path which you desire, keep it up.

frosbel,

it came tmy notice that you have avoided the below thread,why?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-735998.0.html

@Frosbel; « on: Yesterday at 04:05:26 PM »
[Quote]The Myth:

Muhammad was a peaceful man who taught his followers to be the same. Muslims lived peacefully for centuries, fighting only in self-defense - and when it was necessary. True Muslims would never act aggressively.

The Truth:

Muhammad organized 65 military campaigns in the last ten years of his life and personally led 27 of them. The more power that he attained, the smaller the excuse needed to go to battle, until finally he began attacking tribes merely because they were not part of his growing empire.[/Quote]If we replace replace Muhammad [as] and Muslims and in some part replace them with Moses and children of israel, all we have to change are locations the numbers of years, and the lives lost will increase. Moses was ordained by God. Muhammad was ordained by God. God does not change His ways, but shows Mercy by Islam; When a single woman or man commits illegal sexual acts even without the intercourse, Jews stoned the offender to death, while Islam upon 4 witnesses and she/he does not dispute it [read up on the process], he/she is caned 100 lashes.

The conquest of Makka shows the Mercy of Allah versus the fury of Yahweh [Jesus was small Yahweh], whereas the punishment usually came from Yahweh immediately after the crime [the golden calf massacre of the children of israel and making them to go about for 40 years is a good example here]. But Allah says to the Makkans, you have 4 months to make up your mind, even after you have been defeated. You can become muslim and remain in Makka or you can leave and be pagan anywhere you want [Obasanjo writes in his book; so the pagan yorubas left Makka]. But cant remain in Makka as a non-muslim.

The rest of your story is too frosted with flaky fake. I cant be bothered reading from a man who says if he learnt that Jesus lied, he will quit christianity. here is an example of a lie, so you must quit christianity:

You will go to HellFire for calling anyone a fool.

Immediately; You are fool.

Alas! He is not in Hellfire.

is he a liar or not for saying one will be in hellfire then?

Frosbel, Lagos Shia and Sweetnecta.
The three participants in the recurring freak show called "MY GOD IS REAL, YOURS IS FAKE"

Martian:

Frosbel, Lagos Shia and Sweetnecta.
The three participants in the recurring freak show called "MY GOD IS REAL, YOURS IS FAKE"

you should have known by now who is the one that makes it a priority and duty to insult and provoke others.except if you too want to be silly like him.

LagosShia:

you should have known by now who is the one that makes it a priority and duty to insult and provoke others.except if you too want to be silly like him.

So why don't you just ignore him or just edit his posts by replacing muslim/islamic terms with christian ones. All his arguments against your religion can be applied to his own religion as well.

Martian:

So why don't you just ignore him or just edit his posts by replacing muslim/islamic terms with christian ones. All his arguments against your religion can be applied to his own religion as well.

so why don't you just ignore me or just edit my posts by replacing mine with yours.All your arguments against me can be applied to you as well.

LagosShia:

so why don't you just ignore me or just edit my posts by replacing mine with yours.All your arguments against me can be applied to you as well.

lol, good one, except my argument is nothing like yours. My argument is that your assertions that Arab mythology borrowed from Jews proves the existence of a god you claim to be invicible and undetectable are hilarious, ignorant and pathetic. Now, you can go back to arguing about whose pile of rocks is the true god.

^^

Not believing in a GOD must make you feel so superior and intelligent.

"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say, "He traps the wise in the snare of their own cleverness."- 1 Corinthians 3:19

Yet it is a known fact that there is a GOD and I am sorry to say , only Fools do not believe in a GOD.

"Psalm 14:1-3 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."

You can live your life anyhow you like for now, but there is a day of reckoning . This you cannot avoid and just like many have realized, albeit too late, they have been deceived by the father of lies and damned for all eternity.

Do you realize that atheists have been singularly responsible for some of the most hideous crimes in the 20th century . Hitler and Stalin come to mind.

It was because of a thread like this that I left religion section.

[Quote]« #9 on: Today at 10:39:39 AM »

Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 10:31:25 AM
so why don't you just ignore me or just edit my posts by replacing mine with yours.All your arguments against me can be applied to you as well.

lol, good one, except my argument is nothing like yours. My argument is that your assertions that [b]mythology borrowed from [/b]proves the existence of a god you claim to be invicible and undetectable are hilarious, ignorant and pathetic. Now, you can go back to arguing about whose pile of rocks is the true god.
[/Quote]I thought this alien named guy was smarter than to pen the bold? Who was the first Jew? Some guy who was named Judah, a brother of Joseph, a son of Jacob who was called Israel.

Before these two; Jacob and Judah, we have isaac and his big brother Ishmael and then their father Abraham, with a new nephew of his, Lot living somewhere from them. This people were not jews because Abraham and Lot were from a city state called Ur back then in the country of Iraq, today. Egypt was a world power then. So was china and india and other well established nations.

Long before any of the above, we had a man named Noah. and much earlier than him was the first man; Adam and the first woman Eve, both husband and wife. The Quran says they were created by God as in commanded to their being in the sate of living. While the Jews say that these two were in the image of God, or at least Adam was, Quran says nothing of them is in God and nothing of God is in them. No jew said a word about what Muhammad [as] said on this matter. Although they, the disbelievers in each of their own ways threw mud[s] saying that someone was teaching him what he was saying, even though no one named anyone specifically, especially in Madina and at this time Muhammad [as] was not doing much traveling.

Allah defended His Messenger [as] by saying that even though this Quran is authentic Arabic? Fortunately at that time, there was no arabic translation of the Bible, so no one can accuse an illiterate man that he read a classic in his own language and was copying it. Allah is Akbar and when arabic Bible was penned, they had to use the Quranic Arabic as the basis of writing the Arabic Bible. So Martian, you need to know that human history, Only God Knows it 100% accurately. He revealed it accurately what He revealed to Muhammad [as] of the part of human history that is essential for our life journey. We cant say that if a man tell the story of Mango Park incorrectly, saying that the person is a she and black america from Houston, instead of a while European male, even if the incorrect story was written first, we can hold up high the correct book written later as the authentic material.

Early does not have to be better, always. No always.

@Frosbel: #10 on: Today at 10:49:03 AM »

[Quote]^^

Not believing in a GOD must make you feel so superior and intelligent.

"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say, "He traps the wise in the snare of their own cleverness."- 1 Corinthians 3:19[/Quote]Behold the verse from another comforter because he heard and spoke what he heard. No? I am sure the fire tongue didn't say anything, you would have quoted what he said.



[Quote]Yet it is a known fact that there is a GOD and I am sorry to say , only Fools do not believe in a GOD.

"Psalm 14:1-3 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."

You can live your life anyhow you like for now, but there is a day of reckoning . This you cannot avoid and just like many have realized, albeit too late, they have been deceived by the father of lies and damned for all eternity.

Do you realize that atheists have been singularly responsible for some of the most hideous crimes in the 20th century . Hitler and Stalin come to mind.
[/Quote]Though yours are three gods. god[s] is God is what you are saying? I hear you, Mr. Trinity worshiper.

LagosShia:

so why don't you just ignore me or just edit my posts by replacing mine with yours.All your arguments against me can be applied to you as well.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Martian:

lol, good one, except my argument is nothing like yours. My argument is that your assertions that Arab mythology borrowed from Jews proves the existence of a god you claim to be invicible and undetectable are hilarious, ignorant and pathetic. Now, you can go back to arguing about whose pile of rocks is the true god.

at least i see the physical wonders in the universe and in myself to believe in God.

as for you,i wonder if you have ever being to Mars.have you ever seen your Martian gods or your fellow aliens?when will they come for you?