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Workch:
I am giving you facts now.

Maradona got nothing on Gerd muller, and this same Maradona is whom you think should be ahead of Ronaldo. If you have any stat that Maradona surpasses Gerd aside from dribbles, bring it and let's see

The logic doesn't add up it Gerd is not ahead of Ronaldo

ok ur choice which I respect.
Lol

hensben:
Thats not how things work. World Cup is the greatest trophy in football nor be me talk am, it is an official statement. Giroud wasn’t the best player when they won it, he wasn’t the highest goal scorer, he didn’t even score sef when they won it. We are talking of great players that won and gave top performance and become the best while at it. Messi, pele, maradona and Zidane won it and they were the best player while at it.

not that note..Mbappe should come above GERD MULLER TOO.

hensben:
Influence on what? On stirring up controversies and unbalancing the dressing room. Someone that is useless now when he is not scoring it is at the age of 41 he will now be needed.

which controversy him stir up? Only for man United and wetin una coach talk.

Ferguson never complained of him on his first stint.
Madrid coaches all of them even Mourinho never complained of him
In Juventus same thing. None of them ever complain of him stiring up controversy.

In Portugal team you guys like lying about many players including Bruno, Pepe, Diaz, Cancelo have come out to dispel those rumours but nooo... Idiots keep believing Ronaldo did all that simply because of the problem he had with United.

In Portugal team they all see Ronaldo as a big brother and they all love him. Infact United dalot is his biggest fan and none of them has ever complained of him. Yet the media want me to believe the nonsense you spew up there?

I'll advice you to go and read those players and players Ronaldo have played with testimonies about him.

Stop hating.

He will make the squad if he chooses too. Not even you guys hate or the little small small Portuguese haters will stop him because more Portuguese are with him and they know him going there might help them one way or the other especially in a situation they badly need a goal

Workch:
Gerd mullee case is different because Gerd has champions league and world cup.

Gerd scored almost same goals as Ronaldo and assists almost same.

You cannot just remove world cup now like you did for Delima, because it's a big factor in this debate.

There's nothing basically that Ronaldo won that Gerd didn't win the same version in his time. But Ronaldo doesn't have world cup.

This world cup is why we are placing Maradona ahead of Ronaldo in the first place. Maradona doesn't even have a champions league trophy, Gerd has it.

Gerd scored more goals than Maradona and had more assists. How come Maradona is ahead of Ronaldo and Gerd is not ahead of Ronaldo?

ok ue choice and I respect it.

Not the choice of Renoun individuals or FIFA so we ok with that.

Even Ronaldo biggest sport critics like Rooney will easily put him in top5

hensben:
To name something after a great player is normal. A lot of things are named after another Portuguese legend called Eusebio. We are talking football here and not naming things after someone.

Oga indeed your don't know the influence Ronaldo got on that team and his country's FA. If he chooses to go come 2026 nothing will stop him. No one. Except he retires by then or chooses not too. But if he chooses he will go.

Forget anything Nigerian mentality. Na Portugal and Ronaldo we dey talk.

As much as Ronaldo has haters in Portugal..he has.muvh more and more lovers. So the few people for Twitter dey make you dey think the whole country dey against m for this world cup lol continue.

Workch:
that's not the logic.

The logic is you have to get it done in Europe and the world. Modric and Messi did it in both places. Ronaldo only did it in Europe, Giroud is not even a key player anywhere.

If Ronaldo can get it done in both places, he will easily be 4th or even 1st, depending.

I hope you are reasoning

oga Giroud was key in France winning it 4 years ago so simply using ur logic he was better than Messi and modric simple.

Since he has won it

Workch:
Aside PR, I think Gerd Muller is even greater than Maradona.

We can put the statistic to test on this.

For me the top 3 are

Pele, Messi and Gerd muller. Maradona should be 4th.
MARADONA has got nothing on Gerd.

Maradona doesn't have a UCl title, he didn't score as. Uch goals or assists as much as Gerd. To cap it all, Maradona performed on drugs

ok ur choice.

When the main list is brought.. I want to see if indeed your Gerd Muller will be ahead of Ronaldo lol.

No body or renoun someone that have listed the Goats have ever put your Gerd Muller ahead of Ronaldo.. not in this lifetime.

Na you where full with hate dey do m

hensben:
Giroud don’t have individual awards to be compared to cruyff. Na you Dey use emotion analyze football, nor be everything be hate. Be logical for ones. Only messi got the chance to make next World Cup simply because he useful in the other position like midfield work so can be used there.

oga it is simple. Na u talk say world cup is greater than Every individual thing someone can win. So on that basis giroud was greater than Cruyff and Messi.

If you say no than indeed you're hateful

Workch:
Even Before Messi won the world cup, he had entered the FIFA hall of fame by winning the golden ball. It's something Ronaldo doesn't.

You can only compare Ronaldo to Messi in Europe now and not on global stage. It's the bitter truth

On what basis should Messi and Ronaldo be compared on global stage if Ronaldo always disappears at the world cup

on thaf basis it means modric is there. Modric has enter FIFA Hall of Fame lol ... On that basis Giroud was better than Messi before Sunday simply because he has won the world cup. Agreed?

hensben:
Which influence? When Portuguese people are already p1ssed that he doesn’t deserve to start again that made cr7 sister started ranting and guilt tripping. Portugal is not some low rated footballing nation that they will still carry a 41 year old player to World Cup, maybe as part of coaching staff sha.

lol how many Portugueses? Go and sit many thousands of Portugueses also supporting him and standing for him. There's a reason an airport was name with his name.

Inly few misguided Portugueses and their words can't stop anything. Cause many more support ronaldo.

Workch:
I do not agree that Ronaldo should be 4th to be honest.

What does Ronaldo have on Gerd muller?
Tell me

everything apart from the world cup.

It was Same example I gave above for delima and Ronaldo.

Remove world cup. Remove Champions league trophies of Ronaldo too.

Ronaldo beat Gerd in every indices.

More BD. More player of match. More assists. More freekivk goals. More and more everything u could think of.
More player of the season or player of the year. More and more of everything

hensben:
Thats not how things work, na your Nigeria mind you take Dey talk so. Maybe as one of the coaching staff not as a player. Portugal have wealth of young stars and Ronaldo is not the type that unite dressing room when he is not playing. Nor be everything be hate, na emotion you take Dey talk so.

Oga forget Nigerian mind. Influence is influence. Except he has retired by then or he chooses not to go but if he chooses too. Nothing will stop him from going.

Workch:
one world cup encompasses whatever thing you had in Europe. Especially if that player also had many trophies in Europe.

A player with 2 Ucls and 1 world cup, 500 goals is greater than a player with 6UCLs and 600 goals. World cup is key.

It's like winning 10 EPL or LA ligas with many goals, you cannot compare such player with some with 2 EPls or LA Liga and 2 Ucls and he also has almost as many goals as you. Ronaldo can win 20 Ucls, Pele with 3 world cup and more world cup goals will still be ranked above him

That's the logic.

and your logic is flaw and feel with hate.

If you say one world cup is better than all that.

It means Giroud is better the Cruyff or is in the top 8-15 of all times that have not won the world cup.

Now you see how foolish you're ?
Meaning Giroud is better than WEAH, than Rooney, than drogba etc ?

Indeed you're clown

Workch:
FIFA thinks so.
I can't trust you and distrust Fifa

Do you read at all? Who is comparing Messi and Ronaldo? We are talking if Ronaldo is top 5 in � debate and I said he will easily make 4th but can't make third cause maradona is there and got a world cup

Pinterest:
Again, fair enough....

No point doubting some of the things here because they are well put, to be honest.

it that simple. If people remove the sentiment they will see it.

It doesn't matter if delima was the better talented one. What matters is there effect in the game.

Reason why Ronaldo will always be in 4th place and delima below.

Though I predict Mbappe to come and upstage Ronaldo and maradona soon. All he needs is at best 4 ballon d or and more than 700 goals which he will get.
I don't really bother if he gets it shall cause
I love Mbappe.

Workch:
if Ronaldo manages to get just 1 world cup, you can even place him above Pele. It's when all these your UCl statistics can become relevant

hope you place Gerd Muller ahead of Messi before Messi won this world cup ?

If you didn't then look at the mirror and find out you are simply a hatefilled person

hensben:
All these are fiction, Ronaldo will not be available for selection in the next World Cup because he will become even more inactive to the squad. Who will carry a 41 year old to World Cup when young stars are emerging everyday. Did you see him play in this last wc that even the coach have no choice than to bench him.

oga if by 41 Ronaldo hasn't retired and want to go to the world cup. He has all.the influence both in Portugal as a country. In Portugal FA and even in the team to make the squad. Yes he won't play full matches maybe 5-10 minutes but yes he will go if he chooses.

hensben:
Ronaldo is not going to the next World Cup. Portugal is not some low rated nation in football that they will still be needing Ronaldo’s service at 41. You guys don’t always see reality.

You're the blind one there if not you will know that if Ronaldo chooses to play till 41 and also to go to the world cup nothing can stop him. He will be part of the squad easily but yes, he won't be starting matches it is that simple.

He is to influential in Portugal not to be able to push his way into the squad. Except na him retire or na him no want go but if he chooses he got the influence to make it happen.

Remove your hate and see the influence he has in that Portugal as a country. The people love him. The president of Portugal love him and has name things with his name.

So remove your hate and understand that if he still plays still 41 and chooses to go to the world cup. He has all the influence and all.the strings to make that happen.

Yes accepted he won't be starting but he will be in the squad and get to play 5-10 minutes especially in games Portugal are comfortably winning..so what are you saying?

Pinterest:
Ahhh...if he’s actually ahead of De Lima like you claimed, then he’s not because it was easy like you said. Ronaldo De Lima was a terror during his early playing days. Injury messed up his career.

he is ahead. Ronaldo self was a terror to defenders. Atleast from 2003-2014.. ask any defender that faced him they will.tell you.

Yes he hasn't won the World cup that's the reason he is below the 3 Goats above. But delima hasn't won the CL despite playing in Europe so that's the reason he is below Ronaldo.

Besides let even remove world cup and CL... Every other indices Ronaldo beat him except raw talent anyways.


Name me any indices delima beat Ronaldo apart from world cup and CL which I have removed.

And maybe raw talent.

I'm waiting

Pinterest:
I guess we are good then

We are. Atleast for one time. It is the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Workch:
see, whatever you do in Europe, if you don't make FIFA hall of fame, na local continental champ you be.

The world cup is the biggest footballing tournament in the world, not just in football but the biggest sport event. If Ronaldo doesn't make an impact there, he remains a local continent champ. No GOAT debate for him

ok. Have you finished? Even your Messi or Pele or even maradona won't make this useless statement. Lol.

Workch:
Gerd Muller is a greater player than Ronaldo by a. Lot. See why : Müller became the first German to win the Ballon d'Or back in 1970, when it was still known as the European Footballer of the Year. He remains the top scorer in Bayern's history with 566 goals in 607 games, won three consecutive European Cups, the Intercontinental Cup (world cup)), the Cup Winners' Cup and four Bundesliga titles.

Ronaldo needs the world cup to be at that level

now i know na hate dey do u lol.

Nigga won it once... Ronaldo won it 5 times.
Had the highest goals ever in history while playing majorly as a weekend for 2003-2014.. that's 10 years.

Ur Gerd Muller played as a striker yet Ronaldo tops him in goals

Ronaldo 5 CL. How many your Gerd Muller get?
Really hate is doing u. Lol

Pinterest:
About the bold, maybe you should check the EPL table to clear your doubt. Even your fav player praised Arsenal for being different from Man U in that interview.

And yes, I want him to join Chelsea too. Ronaldo fans and Chelsea fan fit each other, una fight go sweet

i didn't say they are not differ from United. I said they're not much differ. Arsenal are doing well. Top of the table .
Remenber this same. Man United were top of the table as at January last year and yet ended 2nd place to city. So bro understand me what I'm saying ok.
Clearly arsenal are the better one this season Sha but not that much seeing they're about 10 points ahead of United with 1 more game played.

Nevertheless man United haven't been that bad too.

By the way I'm supporting arsenal to win the league this season. Rather them than city.

Pinterest:
Fair enough....

Until then.

yeah until then. But pls u guys should leave him alone and celebrate ur Messi in peace.

By the way all those saying Ronaldo isn't in top 5 or top 10 greatest are just haters.

He easily comes fourth above Ronaldo delima.

Workch:
Even Modric can be regarded as c greater than Ronaldo atm.
Modric has a world cup golden ball, bronze medla and silver medal.

Ronaldo is not part of the best 10 players in history atm

lol hate has blinded you.

Apart from that world cup that has eluded Ronaldo and kept him away of the top 3..he easily enter top 4.

Ronaldo Brazil could have come before him but he has only 3 BD and not CL.
Ronaldo has 5 and 5 Cl. Just being brought down by World cup..

So he easily comes 4th for anyone without biases.
You might say he is not as talented as Ronaldo delima but nevertheless he has achieved much more than Ronaldo delima.

Remove Ronaldo CL and Delima World cup.

Ronaldo dump delima in every statiscal data.. weather on goals or on assists. Weather on freekicks or anything at all.

You might say he had the longer career..but how is that Ronaldo fault? Cristiano in 2014 had a near career ending injury and had to adapt and change his game to continue football, to me that's a brilliant footballer.
But delima failed too. it simple...

Cristiano easily comes third after Pele, Messi, maradona. If he wins the world cup in 2026 he will go third ahead of maradona.
Messi will still maintain 2nd simply because of the number of his ballon dor

Pinterest:
Ronaldo would not quit. That’s one of the things I like about him. He has this self believe, though he’s always cocky about it. Wish him the best. Sentiments aside, nothings he’s going to do afterwards will affect Messi’s supremacy. I may be wrong though.

About the bold, you know, I have always thought about it since he’s been linked to us. But I’ve come to the conclusion that I never want to see it happen boss, for a number of reasons.

- Ronaldo is a divisive character, according to reports. We don’t want that in the team.

- Ronaldo ego is hoooge, same with Arteta. And it’s bound to clash at some point. Arteta’s minor clash with Auba will be a minor one lol.

- We need to play as a team more than ever before, throwing Ronaldo into the mix will mean playing for him and not for the team.

- I personally don’t think Ronaldo rates Arsenal, forget about the hype in his Morgan interview. He’ll only join us to proof his doubters wrong and If he hits the ground running, I believe he’ll leave us for a much more bigger team, especially if we don’t end up winning the EPL.

- Arsenal will temporarily inherit his very very toxic fan base. The point is they’ll abuse abuse the coach, his fellow players and his club if things don’t go his way. The other players don’t deserve vile criticism just because they are playing alongside Ronaldo.

- Ronaldo can’t replace Gabriel Jesus in our current set up. Jesus does much more than just scoring. And Ronaldo his just all about scoring, if he doesn’t score in a game, he’s basically useless in other areas.

Boss, there are more but I’d like to stop here

I don't even want him to join arsenal.

I want him to join Chelsea rather. Thankfully Chelsea una like him. If a deal can happen he can play for Chelsea and play the CL and that's very very ok for us Ronaldo fans.

For arsenal they are doing good now.. they should keep it up but they not much better than United he just left.

Lukuluku69:
Very true. He has had a splendid career so far. One of the very best. The problem is there is a Messi during his time.

He can still make the Portugal 2026 Squads, but many obstacles are on his way namely the Qualifiers, Age (he will be 41/42)

Well, let us keep our fingers crossed on that, but I know he is not quitting yet.

By the way, would you take him at Arsenal as a stop gap measure for Gabriel Jesus?

if he chooses not to retire he will make it.
He mustn't even be playing in Europe then. Even playing in the America or China or arab will be ok. He has enough influence to make his way into the squad as a squad player though not a starter. But he will be influential in that 10-15 minutes especially if Portugal are pulling crosses in.

If Portugal goes all the way there to win it. He would've acheived everything he ever dreamt too. And will be known as one of the top 3 greatest in history then. But for now he is 4th place cause maradona got a world cup. If Ronaldo wins one...he upstage maradona for me but might not upstage Messi due to Messi bD

Raf4:
Messi lying down at the back of the wall to defend a free kick actually caught my attention. What a humble superstar! CR7 would rather walk out of the field than doing such.

Ronaldo has been standing and making the war and receiving the shots from the freekicks but yet you're against him cause he didn't lie down for a freekick?
So with his height he should be lying down?


Do you guys think or this is just plain hate?

Pinterest:
I think Ronaldo has few time left, even if he makes the 2026 Portuguese squad and they go all the way, I don’t think he’ll be influential in the winning other than being a squad player.

I’m judging him based on what he does on the field of player and his current form. He’s had a good career though, a career that many past and present footballl can only dream of.

we really don't care if he becomes influential in the victory or not as long as he wins it and play minutes like every 10 or 15 minutes no problem. Even if he doesn't score no problem.
If by a stroke he wins the world cup come 2026 with Portugal.. he will climb up that Podium with Messi and Pele and maradona.

But for now he remains 4th place for me

Workch:
no doubt he's a legend but he's not in the category of Messi, Pele and Maradona.
World cup is very key, very important.

People will always place him bow these 3. Just wait a while when experts start analyzing this issues

yes u re right no doubt he won't come on top those two.

So now is now

Pele
Messi
Maradona
C.Ronaldo
Ronaldo Brazil
Etc


But knowthis.. if Ronaldo should be a virtue of Grace go with Portugal to the world cup in 2026 and win that world cup. He will climb up to that third or even second position .

By the way, Pele is above Messi and maradona because he won 3 world cups for me.

lhordspy:
I dont support war or destruction in any form. But you see Ukraine. Dem go collect !

Roger crawford once said:
"Being Challenged In Life Is Inevitable, Being Defeated Is Optional"

But Zelensky misused ukranian little chance. They could have avoided defeat and this heavy destruction that is following it.
Russia made it optional for them. But they were fooled by the west, incojunction with their western media propaganda. They pushed them into war and made them continue it even when they Nato, the EU and the US, themselves are bunch of cowards that cant even risk putting their foot on the ground by joining it.


Now the time for settlement and peace has passed. Peace is forbidden in this war now. When Russia is done with them. They will beg for mercy, an off-the-table mercy. Unfortunately, there wont be none left.

you're always supporting wrong things. I doubt if you have ever supported anything right in your entire life.

kelvyn7:
Abeg abeg, no be me say make Ronaldo no win World Cup ooo

get the Bleep outta here Hypocrite.

When Ronaldo won his euros why didn't Messi congratulate him?

You're a fucking hypocrite