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femi4:
Exactly, he can always find one that suit his believe. Not going at all is self deprivation

"Self Deprivation"👌🏾

femi4:
You can always turn it down instead of not going to church completely

Seems he has problem with these modern churches and not the old ones. So why don't he search for one of the old ones , huh?

tunjijones:
Una dey craze, transformer no dey blow?

Will you now say because if that you wld not use transformer to transmit electricity?

Na on top roof dem dey install transformer?

Rare for you to see transformers "blow" then damage roof of house na.

Kobojunkie:
1. I knew the number was higher than 400(counting the fact that Joseph was the first descendant of Jacob(Israel) who supposedly arrived in Egypt, became a prisoner, and later a governor all before his family came to join him much later). That is the reason why I stated that it was towards 500— no rounding attempted— instead of exactly 400.

2. There is nothing holier than thou here since that concept only applies as far as you religious folks are concerned. I am simply interested in the written facts in the book versus the many tales traded by you religious folks.

3. I don't walk around with exact values in my head, but the one thing I am certain of is that religious takes never line up with what is stated in the book.

But you totally expected it from me to walk around with exact values in my head?

Kobojunkie:
. You didn't say that? My mistake!

[s]What then was the essence of mentioning the uncircumcision of his son as a condition to negate the claim that Moses was a holy man at the time he was called to walk holy ground by the burning bush?[/s] Where is it stated in the book that a man with an uncircumcised son could not attain holiness?

I mentioned the uncircumcision of his son, to explain the fact/reality that because the Will of the Creator was at hand in his life; the circumcision of his son became a secondary issue (at that point in time)- The burning bush encounter had to happen, the issue of circumcision was to be dealt with later as narrated in Exodus 4 vs 24-26

Wasn't it obvious in the context for which I brought up the circumcision matter? Moses did not have to be a model Israeli (A model Israelite ought to have his son(s) circumcised) before he encountered the Creator

Whoever the Creator wants to encounter, HE will encounter.

Kobojunkie:
Try to pay attention please! 😩

Recall that you had earlier asserted that Moses could not have attained holiness at the time he walked up the mountain to meet the burning bush since, according to you, he was not circumcised. I pointed out then that before the introduction of the Old Law of Moses, which came after the event, YHWH did not make circumcision a prerequisite for Holiness status. Shem, Noah, and even Abraham were not circumcised before YHWH justified them.

You had also mentioned Zipporah's act detailed in Exodus 4, and I pointed out that the entry in that chapter does not state that
✓ Moses was unholy
✓ Moses was uncircumcised
✓ and hence not that YHWH attempted to kill Moses there because Moses was unholy or uncircumcised.

In Exodus 12, we read that the foreigners who wished to be a part of the nation of Israel had to be circumcized even those we eventually learn that they were excluded from the reward of the Covenant of Moses since they were not of the bloodline of Jacob— they had to be descended from that bloodline to reap the afterlife promised in the Land of Canaan by YHWH. Hence, holiness did not apply to them even though they were required to be circumcised to eat the Passover meal and live among the people of Israel.

For you to now, after this—ask me if the verse was fabricated— is utterly ludicrous. I am like, where in the world does this idea of yours come from, any of what I have said so far? 🙄🙄🙄

According to me "He was not circumcised" ?

Please point me to where I made this bold statement. I beg you. You read my posts and just interpret it in your words? It's scaring.

Once again, pease point me to where I stated that Moses was not circumcised

Kobojunkie:
You can start by showing me exactly where you get the claim that it was exactly on the 400th year that Moses had turned 80.

Exodus 12 claims the Israelites had been in Egypt for exactly 430 years by the time

And you rounded it up to 500? How convenient of you.

Oh you holier than thou Folks! You are just being pedantic.

Alright then, let me try to be a pendant this one time...

How is 430yrs, almost 500yrs? Is that how you do your rounding up of numbers?. For a pedant, one would have thought you would give me the correct figure, rather than come up with a number (500yrs)that is way off the mark than the one I stated (400yrs).

Kobojunkie:
1. Wrong! I am using it to contradict the claims that are born of Religion.

2. What creator? I said YHWH is the God who called Moses and, according to Him, the uncircumcised man among the descendants of Abraham would be cut off from among the people. Not sure how that translates to being killed or why you religious folks concluded that Moses must have been uncircumcised and hence the reason for what is written in Exodus 4.

3. Review of what is written in the book versus the claim made by you religious folks, which is that Moses was uncircumcised even at age 80. No scripture states that. In Exodus 12, we have the same Moses telling the Israelites that they needed to be circumcized in order to eat the Passover meal. Moses ate the Passover meal, did he not?

Are you categorically saying that Exodus 4 Vs 24 is not part of the Israelite Scripture, but was fabricated by "religious folks" And whatever is written therewith is not true?

Please clarify.

Kobojunkie:
1. [s]The exodus took place almost 500 years after the Israelites had migrated to then become slaves in the land of Egypt, not before 400 years. If you did the calculating yourself, you would see this for yourself. [/s]

2. YHWH justified and called Abraham in Genesis 12 vs 1— Abram had proved himself a holy man then. It was not until Genesis 17, long after YHWH had made the promise to Abraham, that He, YHWH, then required that he and his descendants circumcize themselves as proof of the other agreement, which was to make Abraham and his descendants a great nation.
YHWH never did state to Abraham that circumcision came with a guarantee of holiness as you assume. Holiness, as was the case with Abraham, was obtainable without circumcision.

You mention that Moses was almost killed because he was not circumcized. Well, I am not certain if he would have been killed had his wife not intervened, as you say she did. Why? Well, because what YHWH instead said, in verse 14 above, is that any male who is not circumcized will instead be cut off from his people. And I don't have enough information to for sure claim that death was what YHWH meant when He said that.

Circumcision was given as a seal of the second agreement between YHWH and Abraham, not as a requirement of holiness. I mean, we read later that YHWH killed off many of the circumcized israelites in the desert, so it was not necessarily a fore-requirment for holiness, nor was it meant to ward off death.

Almost 500 years indeed

Kobojunkie:
1. You should probably put on your glasses, as nothing of what I have said so far lines up with the claims you have made thus far. Here's the funny thing of all of this. I have offered you no interpretation whatsoever as I instead regurgitate only that which is written in the book as it is written. I am a great believer in letting the book speak for itself as opposed to the twisting and skewing of words and meanings that is religion.

2. But this is wrong! Moses was not 80 years old on the 400th year of Israelites' exile in Egypt. The very claim that it had to be the 400th year came from religion and not from Israelite Scripture.

Please show me from the "Israelite Scripture, the number of years (or its approximate) the Israelites spent in Exile. Please.

Kobojunkie:
I definitely read what is written but more importantly, I know what YHWH instead said. So, I would rather default to what YHWH said. By the way, Exodus 4 DOES NOT state that Zipporah circumcized Moses.

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Upon closer review, I am not even certain that Moses was uncircumcised at all.

You are using the scripture to contradict the scripture?

You believe what the Creator said in the scripture, but you don't believe what the scripture states the Creator said?

Phewww!

And you have even taken it one step further- "Upon your closer review"? Review based on what?

Kobojunkie:
1. The exodus took place almost 500 years after the Israelites had migrated to then become slaves in the land of Egypt, not before 400 years. If you did the calculating yourself, you would see this for yourself.

2. YHWH justified and called Abraham in Genesis 12 vs 1— Abram had proved himself a holy man then. It was not until Genesis 17, long after YHWH had made the promise to Abraham, that He, YHWH, then required that he and his descendants circumcize themselves as proof of the other agreement, which was to make Abraham and his descendants a great nation.
Circumcision never came with a guarantee of holiness as you assume. Holiness, as was the case with Abraham, was obtainable without circumcision.

You mention that Moses was almost killed because he was not circumcized. Well, I am not certain if he would have been killed had his wife not intervened, as you say she did. Why? Well, because what YHWH instead said, in verse 14 above, is that any male who is not circumcized will instead be cut off from his people. And I don't have enough information to for sure claim that death was what YHWH meant when He said that.

Circumcision was given as a seal of the second agreement between YHWH and Abraham, not as a requirement of holiness. I mean, we read later that YHWH killed off many of the circumcized israelites in the desert, so it was not necessarily a fore-requirment for holiness, nor was it meant to ward off death.

Uncle

Exodus 4 Vs 24 On the way to Egypt, Moses stopped at a place to spend the night. The Lord met Moses at that place and tried to kill him.[a] 25 But Zipporah took a flint knife[b] and circumcised her son. She took the skin and touched his feet.

Kobojunkie:
1. The story you tell of Moses and all the rest do not line up with what is written of them in Israelite Scripture. I find myself needing to depend on you to fill in the gaps in the story you continue to tell.

2. Make legitimate/rationalize/Vindicate....Recall here that your story did not state that this creator of yours contacted Moses before his 80th birthday. There had to be justification to explain the sudden contacting of him after he had turned 80 years of age. There had to be some catalyst to explain the sudden communication— a justification of sorts— after 80 long years of none.

According to you, what Moses did during those 40 years that he was not attempting to save his people mattered little to nothing since he was a special child born to carry out a special mission by your creator. That invariably means that even if Moses had also been involved in, say, the illegal trading of slaves or drugs during that time, it wouldn't have mattered because at the appointed time, he would have been called by your creator and sent off on the mission to rescue his people anyways, right?

3. My parents are not gods— they are humans like myself; hence, they are random people too. If your creator does not consider people random beings, then what about the man that Moses killed? Did you creator specially assign for him to die at the hands of Moses? Was it his mission to die at the hands of Moses? Was that an act rationalized in that sense or something?

4. The reference to a person called Abram is meaningless since you seem to be writing your own stories. You would need to fill me in on the details regarding your particular Abram for me to better understand what other weight that reference is meant to carry.

5. The book instead says that Moses of Israel, like his ancestors, had to abide by YHWH's every commandment and statute to become holy and then justified by Him, YHWH, the God of Israel. Moses' ancestor, Abraham, did the same— the faith He had is as a result of His careful submission and obedience to every one of YHWH's commandments and statutes (Genesis 25 vs 3-5)- it was not of chance or circumstance. In the Book, YHWH's requirement of men is that they first be justified by Him, and His Law is the standard by which that justification is obtained by men. If Moses had not learned of the God of His Fathers and done that which He commanded, He would not have become a holy man and would hence not have been invited by the God of His Fathers to walk the holy ground. [s]If Moses had become a holy man before his 80th birthday, there was no reason specified in scripture for why Moses could not have been called at that point, too, given the prophecy that was given to Abraham was of a period, not an exact date.[/s]

MOSES WAS CALLED AT THAT POINT BECAUSE THE 400 YEARS OF EXILE WAS AT HAND. COME ON MAN?! MOSES HADN'T EVEN CIRCUMCISED HIS SONS BY THEN ( A very important commandment by GOD to Abraham and his descendants) - A DEFIANT ACT THAT ALMOST GOT HIM KILLED BUT FOR THE QUICK ACTION OF HIS WIFE.


[s]Your own story seems to chuck what happened to Moses to chance and circumstance; you say he was born special, and it was just for that reason that he was called up at age 80 to lead his people.[/s]

ANOTHER FALSE NARRATIVE

6. Is Jesus Christ of Israel the creator who gave Moses a mission?

My first observation from your post is that you are buttressing my points. Now I wonder if we are even holding the opposite end of a stick.

I gave a simplistic yet straight to the point answer but you bombard me with deeper interpretations of my statement. You lambaste me of be over religious (religious folks! religious folks!) yet your comments is being inundated with religious backings. Validated with religious narratives.


2: Moses encountered the burning bush while he was 80yrs olds-not his 80th birthday. Moses was 80 years old when it was the 400th year of the Israelites exile in Egypt. If Moses was 29yrs old during the 400th year of the exile. A 29yrs old Moses would have led the Israelite out of Egypt.

In response to the second part of your number 2: As long as Moses was not an Anti-GOD, he was alright. Slave trade is not a sin- Come on! Moses even got a 2nd wife-What does it matter? Before he became king; David was once a bandit- placing levies on farmers in order to give them "protection'. One of such person who refused his offer almost got himself killed.

Before mobile bible applications became popular, there were GOD's people who smuggled bibles to core Islamic countries- Was it an illegal act-Yes. Was it a sin ? No! Peter was "illegally" freed from prison by an Angel. Come on?!

3: So by your summation, anyone who dies in the hands of another is just a random being? That is a grave thing to have in one's mind or have as a thought. That is the inner - conviction of many serial killerS.


4 : My reference to Abram (not yet Abraham) - Genesis 15 vs 13

5. But there was no mandate given by Jesus Christ of Israel to a rich young leader. [/quote]

oh! Now I understand this statement after reading your latest comment.

Yes. There was a mandate. (Matthew 19 vs 21). "Follow me" was the mandate.

Kobojunkie:
[s]This is why I say over and over that you religious folks are ever writing your own books as your claims never fit with what is. in fact, written in Israelite Scripture. 😩😩😩😩[/s]

I could not comprehend anything up here👆🏾.Please make me understand.

According to you, all the things that Moses did — Moses was always in communication with his people in Israel through his elder brother Aaron and perhaps... i.e maybe through other sources. So he always had the burden of the enslaved people of Israel at heart; Moses got married, settled down, and became a professional herder — which are things a majority do, and these had no real impact on the mandate, meaning they were things that were justified— they did not count against him at all, right? You claim that the only thing that had a real impact was that he was born Moses, abi? [/quote]Can you use a synonym of the word justified in your next comment, because I still fail to understand it's relevance here.
And where or when did I say that the only thing that had a real impact is because he was born Moses?

2. And this almighty of yours can call any random human being anywhere trying to do any of those things you listed, is that it? [/quote]To me, you are just a random guy online, a faceless fellow Nigerian that I do not know or care about. But to your parents, you are have an intricate value. You are not a random guy. In fact I believe your parents will be miffed with anyone who calls out to you "Hey random guy" in their presence. Therefore to the Creator no one is random.

3. So, your creator, for no other reason except that Moses was born a special child to carry out a mandate, decided, after 80 years, to call Moses to a place regarded as a place? That is your story? [/quote]If you indeed read my previous comment with reference to Abram, you would have seen the irrelevance of the above question or statement.

4. Um.... your story regarding Moses does not fit with what is in fact wertten of Him by the Isrealites, so, I don't expect your story regarding Samuel, and the rest to fit either. [/quote]Please enlighten me about what was actually written concerning Moses by the Israelites.This is not a rhetorical plea, I am indeed serious.

5. But there was no mandate given by Jesus Christ of Israel to a rich young leader. [/quote]What is the correlation between this statement👆🏾 and the matter in discuss? I can't even fathom whatever message you were trying to pass through it.

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Kobojunkie:
1. This na the main religious story telling wey dey give person headache. 😩😩😩 😩 😩

So, are you insinuating that Moses spent 40 years doing absolutely nothing or doing other things before this mandate came to him? Did the mandate come as a result of things Moses did during those 40 years? or did it come despite the things that Moses did during those 40 years in the desert?

2. What about the day-to-day activities/actions of human beings? Are those of no relevance where this idea of your creator is concerned?

I say NomoreKobo, you say you be kobojunkie...oya na

On a more serious note, this will be the first time you are asking pertinent questions and making pertinent statements, as per the discussion on ground.

1st Answer: Moses did nothing and and also did other things during those 40 years period

*In doing other things: Moses got married. Moses became a Father. Moses was a shepherd. Moses was living what one could term a normal dessert live

*In doing nothing: He didn't start training as a guerrilla soldier to liberate his people. He did not start a rebel army.

Moses had been declared a special child from the day he was born...Hence the reason he survived the holocaust carried out by Pharaoh against the new born male child of the Israelites in Egypt.

He had a mandate.

The mandate came as a result of the things he did and also despite whatever he did in The desert.

As a result of what he did reasons- Moses was always in communication with his people in Israel through his elder brother Aaron and perhaps... i.e maybe through other sources. So he always had the burden of the enslaved people of Israel at heart.

Despite what he did resasons- Moses got married,Settled down and became a professional herder.

2nd Arsenal: Humans will always go about their business-persomal interest and goals, But when the Creator calls you, just Answer. Or try to be in place where you can answer... Like don't kill your neighbour so dat you won't get lynched to death. Don't become an effeminate man-that is an abomination to the Creator.

Moses did a lot of things and didn't do a whole lot of things, but when the Creator called in the burning bush, he answered! Howbeit with a little bit of persuasion and magic. But he answered.


Answer like,Samuel
Answer like, Elisha
Answer like, Isaiah
Answer like, Peter and Co.

Remember the rich young ruler Jesus Christ called? Well he didn't answer.

Kobojunkie:
But of course it is implied that because , according to you, [[s]b]all[/b] is according to the Will of your deity[/s], then every action you take is justified in your little equation of faith there. You probably should read through your own list yourself to realize that is the sum of what you posted.

Here is an Analogy for you...

In the grand plan of the Creator, it has been approved that I will be in Nigeria come end of this year.

But due to my own free will-personal interest and goal; I actively start pursuing a US visa. I have the funds, I have the idea,so the time is right for me. Then I pray and commit everything into the hands of GOD .Make Baba GOD grant me success.

But at the end of the year, my Visa pursuit ends in futility, and I am denied the Visa.

Naturally, I go cry to Baba GOD "But Baba I pray and fasted for this Visa to work, I even gave a seed, why did you fail me. My faith was strong, I believed you had given me the Visa already..."

So tell me, where is the justification in that my personal pursuit and how is it evident that all is the will of the Father?

You do understand that, in this contest, Will is a pattern in the midst of a whole and not the whole in general, right?

Your use of the word justified in this whole discussion is intriguing to me.

MaxInDHouse:
Your personal goal in life has nothing to do with the God of Abraham, He has His own program which all those having faith in Him held onto so it's His program they are working towards as He is leading them as His coworkers not that each person is seeking what pleases him or her then expecting the God of Abraham to support their personal goal in life.

Abraham had His own life to live when this God called and told him the work He has for Abraham and his descendants so it's whoever support that program among the descendants of Abraham that truly have faith in this God not that each of them is pursuing his own goal in life anticipating support from this God.

Example 1
David: Dear GOD make I build temple for you,

The Creator: No, bloody too much for your hand-your son go build am.

Example 2

Jesus Christ: Please Father if it is possible allow this cup to pass over me.
But Him being GOD-the l-Son, quickly adjusted saying; Let not my will but your will be done, Father.

Example 3

Moses: (for the umpteenth time) Abba, I beg, make I enter the promise land na.

The Creator: I say no! Nor ask me again, I don warn you for the last time.

Example 4

Abraham : My Maker, abeg spare Sodom and Gomorrah na.

The Creator: I say no!


Example 5


King David : My LORD and My GOD, abeg, spare the life of this baby na me do bad nor be the child.

The Creator: uhmmm No! (The grieve and the sadness will be part of your "punishment".)

The above examples is what I meant by the part of my comment your quoted👆🏾

In conclusion, Every single one of us humans is pursuing his or her personal goals and interests. Aligning with the grand plan GOD whenever it is presented to us in different stages of our lives is what makes us righteous.

And also your interpretation of who truly has the faith of GOD is debatable.

Kobojunkie:
Essentially, this is another way of saying your deity accepts pretty much anything you throw at him since, after all, even your every behavior is all according to his will, so you all justified by him?

You are a classic religious soul, man!

I hope to GOD you re-read what I wrote up there, and 'edit' this response of yours, coz it is indeed off point.

Where is "justification/ justified" implied in my comment?

Kobojunkie:
. Essentially, your every action is justified, no matter what, by the will of your God, right? WuWei, right?

The Creator told Abram that his descendants will be slaves in a foreign land for so n so number of years, yeah?

Young Moses, being a zealot Israelite at heart wanted to free his enslaved brothers by the might of his hands, what happened? He didn't succeed. He had to flee Egypt for a long while.

But when it was the will and appointed time of the Creator to free the enslaved Israelites, Moses went peacefully with the mandate of the Creator and he prevailed.

What he couldn't achieve while he was young and full of youthful strength and a touch of royal glamour, he achieved when he was pretty passed his youth. You know, he was 80yrs.

So, in doing the will of the Creator (which was the core of the question I commented on), one must allow the Creator to present HIS will, and you just follow it, rather than present your own will to the father and press upon HIM to execute it for you.

Therefore, your interpretation of my commentary is rather off the point, I must say.

FreeSpirited:
The question God will ask u is that: Are you now doing is Will ?

Wrong question:

The will of GOD will come to pass wether you (I mean you) wether you like it or not.

I will provide biblical examples of you need them.

It's funny, but one of the most peaceful way to make the will of GOD come to pass in your life, is for you to stop trying to make the will of GOD come to pass in your life.

Just relax and let the Creator do HIS thing

If I explain my Believe in GOD, some may interpret it as nihilism, or what's worse, lack of faith.

Here is my believe in GOD.

I believe in HIM so much that I dread my existence, because His Will for my life trumps my own "free will"

I believe in HIM so much that I may be having the worse time ever, but deep down I know He loves me.

I believe in HIM so much that I have come to the realisation that wether I live a comfortable life (of my choice) or a life of poverty (that I detest), HIS love for me remains undiminished.

I have come to realise that believing in HIM does not me I will be rich, or healthy, nor successfully. I could be the poorest man alive and yet his love for me will be just the same as the Love HE has for my LORD and CHRIST, Jesus.

The Arabic statement " insha'Allah" best describes my believe in GOD.

i.e ...

If HE wills; I live.
If HE wills; I die.

But HIS steadfast love for me is undeniable.

The ways of the LORD GOD Almighty is just too mysterious.

HE will not answer all your prayers; but how Blessed are you if you find favour in HIS sight!

blingxx:
I’m not in support of this Asian folks but what ever they are doing here is no worse than what the west have been doing to Africa for 300yrs

It's unbelievable that people still fail to understand or distinguish between the West and these Asians.

When the West comes to a place- they tend to recreate their kind of society, education, economics, religion and et al...making the newly created society an all inclusive one. They will teach you their culture, their education, their religion. They will learn your culture even!

The West come to a Forest, they build a school, a church and their own pattern economy. That Forest becomes Western in nature in a few years.

There will be oppression-Oh Yes! Subjugation-Yes! Exploitation- Gbam! But a few years than the line, the oppressed people will start eating like the West, dressing like the West, live in block houses and get educated enough to speak and address the Westerners like equals-Dare I say seek Independence to be their own Boss.

But you see these Asians ? They meet you in a Forest; They will oppress and exploit you in that your forest state. No form of societal development will be carried out in that Forest of us. The oppression will be brutal and there will never be any form of Independence in sight.

The Asians will not show you the way of their culture nor educate you in their own way. Why? Because they believe you do not deserve it! You are below them, all you are good for is to work and work and be exploited and work some more.

RandDigital:
Nigerian haters will be happy to hear as Trump offers Afrikaner farmers refugee visas, there are others from UK, Israel and Southern Africa wishing to fill their space 😎

The development is a positive for South Africa and to Africa at large.

Those foreign aliens would work up good wages and repatriate most of that fund to Their kith and kins back home, which will improve their standard of living and in the bigger picture project the standard of living in Africa in a positive light to the rest of the world.

Positive economic dynamics like this should be applauded and envied respectfully.

Jefferyhi86:
Ur location, na benin i de.. U can send me an email via dis platform

Thank you Bro.

Please check, I have sent an email

Jefferyhi86:
For now, na just ur front page passport, cv, dem need.. Wen time reach for biometric, one will b updated.. Na 5.5miilli dem de charge.. If no b Nigeria with bad names d process no de take time... First batch about 5 of them left December.. Dem no de pack crowd at all..

I am interested Bro.

Jefferyhi86:
No bro, there's no way around that. U knw dis pple dem must be sure that at ur POE. there's someone to pick u up

Oh yes! That's true.


Please throw more light on the Luxembourg parol.

I am seriously interested

Jefferyhi86:
It's o work visa, if only ur patient.. Shegen parol de too but u must have someone over there

By patient; You mean 3 or 4 or 5 or 8 months?

And I am very interested in the Shegen visa as well- Though I don't have any1 over there...Is there no way around that?

Jefferyhi86:
Na funds, onky 4 million i need to lesve this country to gain back my sanity.. Already started Luxembourg parol... See this country i no go fit get joy while am here, i rather suffer in abroad were my amenities are intact than Nigeria, wetin 60k salary wan reach me do

Bro, please can you share the Luxembourg parol process, I am interested.

Great100000:
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Some countries have higher rejection rates than others, making it important to choose wisely.

According to Schengen Visa Info, Here are the ten Schengen countries with the easiest visa approval rates in 2025, based on the latest data from 2023.

1. Iceland – 2.2% Rejection Rate

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2. Switzerland – 10.7% Rejection Rate

Switzerland is known for its organisation, and this extends to its visa process. Although the rejection rate is higher than Iceland’s, at 10.7%, it has improved from 13% in 2021. Switzerland continues to be a popular destination, with its well-established visa procedures ensuring that most applications are processed smoothly. Visitors can explore Zurich, Geneva, and the Swiss Alps.

3. Latvia – 11.7% Rejection Rate

Latvia has a relatively low rejection rate of 11.7%, offering an easy entry point into the Schengen Area. Riga, the capital, boasts a rich history and stunning architecture, including a collection of Art Nouveau buildings. Though the rejection rate increased slightly in recent years, Latvia remains an attractive option for travellers seeking a smooth visa process.

4. Italy – 12% Rejection Rate

Italy’s visa approval process remains manageable, with a rejection rate of 12%. Despite handling a large number of applications annually, the country manages to keep the rejection rate relatively low. With a well-established system, Italy continues to be one of the most popular Schengen destinations. It offers visitors access to its historic cities, iconic landmarks, and picturesque countryside.

5. Luxembourg – 12.7% Rejection Rate

Luxembourg, though small in size, offers a straightforward visa process with a rejection rate of 12.7%. Its visa system has become increasingly efficient in recent years, allowing applicants to gain approval with relative ease. Luxembourg is ideal for travellers wishing to explore its historic castles and beautiful countryside.

6. Lithuania – 12.8% Rejection Rate

Lithuania’s visa process is simple, with a rejection rate of 12.8%. While the rejection rate has slightly risen, Lithuania’s visa application procedures remain accessible. The country is known for its historical landmarks, charming towns, and rich culture, all of which are within easy reach for those who successfully navigate the visa process.

7. Slovakia – 12.9% Rejection Rate

Slovakia’s visa process remains relatively easy, with a rejection rate of 12.9%. Known for its beautiful castles and mountains, Slovakia continues to offer a high approval rate for travellers. Those who submit accurate and complete applications stand a strong chance of approval, ensuring an easy entry into the Schengen Area.

8. Germany – 14.3% Rejection Rate

Germany handles a large volume of visa applications every year, with a rejection rate of 14.3%. Though it is slightly higher than the countries listed above, well-prepared applicants are still likely to secure a visa. The country offers a wide range of experiences, from historic cities to modern attractions, making it a top choice for travellers.

9. Austria – 14.3% Rejection Rate

Austria shares the same rejection rate as Germany at 14.3%. The country’s visa system is fair, but applicants must ensure they meet all the requirements and submit proper documentation. Austria offers visitors the chance to explore its rich cultural heritage, including classical music and scenic mountain views.

10. Greece – 14.7% Rejection Rate

Greece, with a rejection rate of 14.7%, offers one of the more challenging visa processes among the Schengen countries. However, applicants with well-documented applications have a higher chance of success. Greece remains a popular destination, attracting visitors to its ancient landmarks, stunning islands, and rich history.

Source: https://businessday.ng/bd-weekender/article/top-10-easiest-schengen-visas-to-apply-for-in-2025/?amp

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