Yyeske:
Do it the right way and don't ask me how. Ask any lawyer close to you

O boy you worked hard on this thread till late last night, here you are again.

If I may as are you contracted for this job?

Ahmedhussain3463:
continue to console ur self with dis projection of urs,if a single anambra man that is qualified to vote exercise his franchise on that day,winner will emerge and the penelty of not partispating in politics is that,u end up been rule by sombody inferior to ur self~~plato

It doesn't work that way sorry to disappoint you. Secondly in Nigerian today who rigs the most wins election people coming out to vote is smoke screen to justify the rigging numbers. Thirdly FG is concerned not because they really cared about who rules Anambra but their image on the global stage.

We are growing and learning whenever issues are presented before you try and think of all possible scenarios it doesn't mean that you may be right or wrong but it helps your reasoning.

Yyeske:
Enough bragging on radio Biafra tonight, I don tire for these eedioots sef

"You and IPOB matter na 5&6"

I am curious to see how FG will handle this.

Sending soldiers out there will surely lead to the dead of someone and that will increase negative sentiment among the people towards voting.

Keeping soldiers on ground to prevent regrouping will militarized the zone and that will scare most people from voting.

SwagPower:

Very true Sir.. We've not yet fully attained the economic, cultural n psychological maturity required to b mostly non religious.. The best we can hope for at dis stage of our development is a less fanatical religious system..

That I agree with.

This is a set up. If NA takes to the street and chase them away someone may die. Killing one of those guys and putting boots on ground to avoid regrouping of IPOB members is a receipt that will deter people from coming out to vote.

I am curious to see how FG is going to handle this and how the decision will affect the people's reaction towards voting on the election day.

SwagPower:


Aight.. We'll get dere.. A Tym will come when we in Africa will b free.. The revolution has begun already..More pple keep experiencing the awakening.. Jst dt most don't publicly profess to being non religious in our environs n I'm Sure u knw y ..
Been to d religious section of this forum b4

I understand but to be honest at the present stage of our development religion serves a purpose - a purpose of hope. Imagine if not the hope that are the center of every religious messages in Nigeria what the suicide rate would have looked like. Imagine if most people could analyze the economy situation of the country correctly and realize that they are doomed that no matter how hard they fight they are never escaping poverty. On the other hand they were raised to not believe in message of hope and salvation and the promise of a better life hereafter if only they are patient enough. In such a hopeless state and with the understanding that dead puts an end to all the suffering without the possibility of having to answer for it after life most people will willing opt out of life.

In my opinion religion gatherings is our version of receiving psychological and emotional help in dealing with the situation we found ourselves in.

SwagPower:

Aight..asked cos recent info I came across revealed dt although d atheist or non religious population of Europe has bn on d increase.. They however r not yet the majority..
Tanx anyway. ..
#Shalom

In as much as there are still majority that believe in the existence of a God but majority are still not religious and do not believe in the traditional punishment/rewards awaits us after dead or that there is someone looking over us.

They have their moral flaws but when it comes to working for the good of everyone or treating people as human I think we are no where near them.

We only treat our families and close friends with decency but when it comes to choosing between our individual progress or that of the entire community irrespective of whether our families and close friends fall among the entire community in question we are most likely to go with self. To me that is the greatest impediment to our development as a nation.

onatisi:

you are wrong. Most likely some of those who won this election would not have won if ppl had participated fully. Now who will they blame if the wrong person takes charge?

Since when does full participation change the 'intention" of Nigerian politicians? The problem is not participation or electing a fresh face but the system, the system we are currently running will ruin the reputation of Buddha if he gets involved with Nigerian politics.

Ask Bubu how far with his anti-corruption campaign?

SwagPower:

A big hole.. Wow ..well I hope u grt at long jumps....

Like I said in d comment u quoted “Some of us have transcended dt primitive stage”..

Religion as MrMystro explained was made 4 simpler minds at a tym wen man hardly understood d natural happenings round Abt him.. These western Europeans have a far reaching understanding of d workings of d universe n so often do not need to turn to religion to give em answers abt occurrences around dem..

Wat u nid to understand is these minds have matured well enough n so they wouldn't engage in “inhumane” acts not out of fear of d afterlife(uve established they don't believe in all dt)but simply Becos dey have been able to establish a system of morals so simple dt Dey know causing injury to a fellow human is unacceptable...
Abt ur assertion dt most western Europeans do not believe in life after death.. Do u care to pls explain how u arrived at dt...
#Shalom ..

First look up the number of based locals not number of faith based immigrant. I lived in the west during which time I have worked on projects that gave me access to some countries national registry. I don't have to say more .

oweman:


Those are accounts owned by looters of the treasury meanwhile many of the bank executives are beneficiaries of the looting of Nigeria treasury so for them going to court is not surprising .
BARAWO GOATS .

There are people who are abroad for years and have their savings in those accounts.

Before you quote the list circulating around compare the number of countries on that list against the number of countries where Nigerian missions are.

I would think it would have been great if it could have done in all Nigerian embassy abroad that would reach a wider audience. Anyways not like anyone in government is listening it seems they are bent on settling score but some innocent people are going to take a hit on this one.

Okoyiboz3:
I hope the flatheaded miscreants can see that irrespective of their empty chestbeating, elections would always have winners and losers?

You failed to understand their point. Since election will have a winner whether they vote or not, why waste their time to vote and run the risk of being killed by hired thugs? Why not stay at home spend good time with your family while the politicians and their thugs slug it out at the voting center?

Macelliot:
Lesson to the Anambra election boycotters

Even if people boycotts election, a winner will surely be anounced.

I live in Anambra, the biggest mistake will be boycotting the election. The moment people refuses to appear at the voting centres, The HIGHER CHANCES OF RIGGING.

Don't be suprise if APC or APGA wins Anambra election. WHY?

1) Pro-APC will all cast their votes.

2) Few pro-APGA will vote (Obiano loyalist).

3) Most of the election boycotters will either be pro-PDP or pro-Biafra.

If voting will not stop rigging why vote in the first place? Moreover ordinary Nigerians are likely to loose their lives when those thugs engage themselves why not stay at home and allow the politicians and their thugs slug it out.

Yyeske:
Why has fellow Igbos been included in the hate all because they have a different political inclination from yours? Address whatever perceived hate you think Nigeria has against Igbos and not against fellow igbos

In you statement you are talking about including other Igbos with different opinion in a hate speech and in the same breathe you are generalizing by asking me a question as if I told you at any point if I was Igbo or member of IPOB. I guess you can spot the hypocrisy in your statement.

When it comes to the statement I made you didn't deny that the political situation in Nigeria is responsible for most of the deviant behaviors. This is not just an IPOB issues if the government manages to put a complete end to the issues of Biafra without addressing the fundamental problems of Nigeria a group will surely spring up it is just a matter of when and where.

SwagPower:
..Wat u wrote up dere is biutiful.. Prolly dt most biutiful tin av read on dis forum..

Although I myt not b overly religious myself.. I still believe the world needs religion.. Humans nid a check and balance.. Imagine a situation where everyone believes there's is nothing after death.. No hell it heaven..

Wat is to stop some people pple from commiting heinous crimes against fellow humans.. Religions keeps some of our most despicable attributes under lock n key.. Although some of us have transcended Dt primitive stage and capable of Humane deeds without d fear that religion peddles...
Religion is wat stands between humans n total anarchy..

Dts y I'd say to fellow skeptics.. Dnt go Abt castigating pple's beliefs.. Most of us were like dem b4 our awakening.. Lead dem gently away from d indoctrination.. Insults n mocking their beliefs will Neva make dem change..

As psychology has proved the more u tried to convince som1 dt dey r wrong.. The more tightly dey hold on to deir beliefs either our of sheer stubbornness or a slighted Ego..

#Shalom..

There is a big hole in your assertion. In most Western European countries majority of the population do not believe in life after death ( by your statement there is nothing to keep them in check hence there is a big chance that chaos will reign) but as today they have the "most humane" leaders and citizens that are considerate and respect the sanctity of lives of their fellow citizens (at least majority of them). Now place this societies side by side Africa/middle East both happen to have majority of faith based inhabitants compared to the world, given the "check and balances" and chance of loosing put from life after that we have been promised, these two region are home to the "most inhumane" political leaders you ever think. The citizens are not left out in both being inconsiderate and pain in the neck of their neighbors.

Please brother can you at least give us an explanation of why things are that way?

YelloweWest:

Logic is science.
Belief in God is through faith.

I think that is a line we Christians throw around to get out of a tough discussion. It is kind of strange to me that you are all for accepting the argument of those in support of tithing because it is from the word of God and as such it's potency is faith based but not so quick to let your faith play out in Freeze's position which also has Bible backing. At least he was kind enough to back his stand with Bible verses.

I am conflicted on how best to reconcile the contradictions that your position keeps bringing up. Please help me to understand I am nothing but only a man trying to make sense out of all the conflicting information that has been flying around.

YelloweWest:

A man with wisdom is profitable to himself.
If u don't believe in God allow us who do to express our brief.

I never said I didn't believe in God, I am trying to find the relationship between misfortune and paying tithe. In your statement you made a bold claim to that effect.

In my simple mind the first thing I would think about is the economy not that Good is trying to avenge Himself.

Maybe I am wrong which was why I asked for explanation. If I recall correctly based on your other posts I would assume that you would at least give me a logical explanation rather than glossing it over.

Come to think of it, why did your husband get "punished" because of you not paying tithe? So let assume your husband pays so his couldn't get him out of it? Or he does not pay so he is riding on your blessings? Sorry your statement raised a lot of red flags.

Yyeske:
OP just repeated what radio Biafra had been saying all day yesterday, OP you even forgot to add when they aired it repeatedly that people should go around polling booths with paper and pen to write down names of people they can recognise so that such people can be dealt with later.
Just imagine how IPOB is turning the SE into a Nazi style Germany, soon siblings will start snitching on themselves, friends snitching on each other. Just wait till that calamity IPOB had always wished for start manifesting and people picked up secretly to be killed then you'll know how much harm IPOB has done to the Igbos but for now, continue basking in the euphoria of hate.

"...how much harm IPOB has done to the Igbos...."

IPOB is a creation of the situation in Nigeria by induction your statement should read ...how much harm Nigeria has done to the Igbos and by extension the entire people of Nigeria irrespective of tribes.

YelloweWest:
I'm a Christian. I pay my tithe joyfully.
When my husband had a good job I wasn't paying tithe. Then he lost his job. I became more devoted and paid tithe out of the little I had. Then God have my husband a better job than the one he lost.
This is my personal experience with tithe paying.

I can't advise anyone not to pay tithe at the same time to an extent I support daddy freeze. Pentecostal pastors are just a little short of being criminals.

So your husband lost his job because you didn't pay tithe and he got a better one when you started paying tithe?

All my oyibo friends non pays tithe they all had better jobs the ones that lost theirs were cared for by the system and social services went to work until they got better offer than what they had before.

I am just wondering is the tithe blessings/punishment only applicable in the lives of Africans?

delexy123:
Yes, I can step aside...but NOT for an agenda championing IPOB cause...

Your opinion on the issue is not about supporting IPOB or not but on how voting/not voting is in the interest of ordinary Nigerians.

Pillyportions:
y are u showing pictures of locked up markets? Was it nt announced that since there will be elections today that markets should be closed so that people will go and vote.... Keep on deceiving ursef

Can you show us pictures/ video of people voting?

Donkay82:
I just finished watching election highlights on ETV right now in Enugu,what do you guys derive from spreading falsehood and lies

Video/pictures please. Thanks

chipet67:
How will they put a candidate when nobody voted ?

They can do that but then their bold face lies will be exposed before the world. I guess they will end up in court slugging it out among themselves.

I am glad no one died for this nonsense this time around.

Bgorgeous:
now I know the real cows in Nigeria are the igbo people you guys will be der governance will continue wether you vote or not. wise man die for foolish man backyard

I like listening to opposing argument. Can you tell me your opinion on how voting/not voting impacts the lives of the masses in Nigeria. We all voted massively for the present administration but not too long into their tenure they gave their children/relations juicy jobs through the back door. Today those that voted are no different from those that didn't because we are all feeling the heat we all could as well not have voted and nothing would have changed.

I may be wrong but election in Nigeria is highly rigged so instead of the masses wasting their precious time and some of them getting killed why not step aside and let the politicians for once justify their rigging on a no-vote election.

Malawian:

We have been fighting for these politicians, now let them fight amongst themselves for the winner. All reasonable people should stay indoors for ofe nsala. i am going to observe mine here in las gidi.

I think it is time the politicians slug it out themselves without sacrificing the poor masses.

I am sure no one died today in Enugu as a result of election violence. That is a good news to me.

neoapocalypse:


About the health issue , my brother in-law who is a consultant medical doctor said 75% of the deaths that occur in Nigeria would never be fatal in the U.S or Australia , most illnesses , accidents and disorders are preventable in advanced countries , in Nigeria this isn't so. That reason alone gives living in the U.S a huge edge over Naija.

Not just health everything is wrong in Nigeria. In most Westerner European countries the rich and not shop and live within same neighborhood, everybody's children school in the same public school. So the guy with menial job has the same standard of living as compared to a company CEO save that the CEO maybe driving latest car.

Where I am resident cleaners have access to loan to buy houses and they have pension contribution, go on yearly holiday like everyone else. So yes in this part of the world a clearer has a better life than a bank manager in Nigeria.

In fact a cleaner has a better life that the president of Nigeria. Before you fight this think about this: if Buhari falls on the street of Nigeria I don't think there is any ambulance that will come to his aid and he will be rushed to UK, but if a cleaner falls down in any street in Netherlands ambulance will pick him and he will get the required care before Buhari reached the presidential wing of NAA.

So my friend I think that in Nigeria given the level of hardships we have experienced and still experiencing people think that having money in your bank account is all there is to life.

lapazi:

I think this is one of the most sensible post I have seen in a while, dude keep doing what you do, don't stop!

Thanks.

timesup234:
Sorry dear, American visa is nothing. Maybe 20 yrs ago but not in 2017. When someone points this truth counter the topic and not the individual. Can you compare someone doing menial job or even a Registered Nurse in America to a bank manager in Nigeria. Come on let's be frank and honest.

I understand your position but I think you are not looking at it wholly. Let me use Netherlands for instance someone doing a menial job and earning 1800 Euros per month life's value is even better than that of a bank manager in Nigeria. Yes, the residual income of the bank manager is higher likewise his physical assets.

But what the guy in Netherlands takes for granted; security, social welfare, access to affordable and world class health facility, ability to send his children to the best school in the country without sweating about it is a luxury to the bank manager.

Yes, money wise the bank manager has more residual income but the life of the guy in Netherlands has more value than that of the bank manager so the question is how do you measure quality of life based on money in your bank account or free and easy access to the things that makes your life comfortable? The choice is yours and it is different for everyone.

Did you know that before paper became main stream in the primary school there were people that were against it. They argued that not learning to write with traditional chalk board given to pupil in primary school will cause distraction and make the children loose out on an important aspect of learning.

I am sure you were aware that if we have to keep things as they were most of the old testament at least the ten commandments should be in stone tablet.

I know change maybe scary and unsettling a times but it is important in human development. I don't see anything wrong in using tablet with your Bible in it. For those that says it leads to distract even before tablet there are people that still get distracted in church.