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ibrahimsalam:
You are a child if you think the protest is about tribe or region

You are a child if you think the protest won't lead to tribal or regional conflict.

Sodomy?

Anyway, I won't be surprised if he's also gay.

His case reminds me of a weird story my cousin once narrated to me. He (my cousin) slept in the same room with a guy he trusted to be a "pastor" only to wake up in the middle of the night to see this guy handling his private part.

🤣😂

I see what you did there. Why did you choose that gif of a couple arguing to describe married men?
Anyway to honestly answer your question, yes I sometimes envy single men.

But I will still advice you get married and join our club. Misery loves company.

The United States of America is no longer the super power of the world. It is nothing but a crumbling empire.

They know this, so they go about crumbling nations with demonic policies, overthrowing democratically elected officials with carefully planned revolutions only to install their puppets, threating and blackmailing officials via proxies and causing war and conflict in various regions.

They make alot of money in arms sales when the whole world is boiling.

Only a deeply sick and cruel person can admire such a nation.

tctrills:
Are you saying that you are the JW rep on this forum?

No, I am not a rep. I came to this forum to post educational facts not related to anything religion. I just happened to notice a thread in the religion section filled with insults and abusive speech from someone who calls himself a member of Jehovah's Witnesses.

tctrills:
But then, if I must be sincere, the JW members I have met outside Nairaland have mostly been fun, respectful and very intelligent. I was beginning to see the organization as a joke and I mostly used MaxinDHouse for the laughs and stress relief.

Thank you for that observation and compliment. The keyword I took there is respectful and intelligent.

We respect people we discuss with and we are intelligent to know when it is time to end a conversation rather than resort to insulting and abusing.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Jesus never won the heart of all the Jews but right hearted individuals love him .
On this forum i have made disciples who got baptized and felt like seeing me to give me a hug but i always direct them to JWs in their neighbourhood telling them that whenever they see a JW that's MaxInDhouse.

So if you're of the opinion that what those guys are saying is because of MaxInDhouse ọmọ you're deceiving yourself big time because whether you behave like angel or not apostates will not be moved by your attitude so be yourself and speak the truth fearlessly.

That's me for you!

You succeeded in getting people baptised from discussion you had with them in this forum?

Really?

You must have set a fine example for them then. That it is good to insult and abuse ex-members, apostates and unbelievers online.

Anything else....

tctrills:
I would suggest you and your like minds spend more time on the forum because MaxinDHouse is very visible here. It would be nice to discuss with both sides to know which is the good.

Noted. I don't come online often but I will try to.

But please note that we have a pattern we follow in discussing with people. For example, we do not spend countless hours discussing or arguing with people who have no genuine sincere interest in our organisation, belief's or doctrines.

tctrills:
I used to have that good impression of JW until I met MaxinDHouse and the gang on Nairaland so far, all the JW I have met on Nairaland behave like MaxinDHouse.

I apologize for whatever bad impression this imposter has given to you about our organisation. I am currently working something out. The moderators of this forum need to be aware of what is going on. I plan on creating a thread to give everyone a warning to be careful with him.

I am not in anyway discouraging from having conversations with him, but be aware that anything he says does not represent the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's witnesses.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i have done the needful at least you're a witness to the fine works of faith by Max on this thread!

Cult like
Pedophile organisation
Child abusers
Brainwashed individuals
Insulting
Abusing
Scripture twisting
etc...

This is the impression your works in this forum have given to people about members of Jehovah's witnesses.

Fine works indeed brother. Anything else you want to add.... I assume you still have more to say since you don't know how to keep shut.

tctrills:
I honestly don't know who or what to believe. How can I tell who is truly JW. MaxinDHouse you have been called out as a fake JW. What's going on here.

It's very easy my friend.

Ask any Jehovahs witnesses you meet or see tomorrow if witnesses are allowed or encouraged to insult and abuse people online or in person.

When they give you an answer, you won't be confused to decide if really he is a pretender or one of us.

MaxInDHouse:
if you try nonsense with me simply because you've always been treating JWs like trash then i will show you that this is not your house.

I agree with you. That is exactly what we are admonished to do in our meetings and publications. Insult and abuse apostates and unbelievers when they deliberately mock and make jest of us.

Do you have more to say? Keep talking...

tctrills:
So to the JW, the Jews are God's enemies right?
So the Jews are your enemy.

Hello, apologies for interrupting but I want to warn that this user👉 MaxInDHouse may not actually be one of Jehovah's witnesses.

Whatever word he types represents him and him alone.

To understand what we believe feel free in starting a Bible study with any of our members you meet in your locality.

Thanks.

MaxInDHouse:
Whoever type gibberish about me i will put such ones where they rightly belong!

Enjoy your weekend!

Of course, as a Christian and a baptised member of one of Jehovah's witnesses that is exactly what we are taught to do.

Enjoy yours too.

Chamukebenson:
i just hate being in this world, My life is like a horror movie.

Everyone feels that way once in a while. You're not alone. Our striving under the sun ceases the day we die. Untill then we must try to remain strong and put our faith in God even though life makes it difficult to trust and believe in him.

Please by all means possible avoid having any dealings with this guy👉 MaxInDHouse.

A quick view of all his post will let you know that he is not one of Jehovah's witnesses because we do not insult or abuse people online or in person. What his aim is in pretending to be one I cant say for sure. Be extremely careful.

I saw you indicated interest in studying with Jehovah's witnesses. That's good. In your locality there are kingdom halls there. Feel free to visit anyone of your choice on Sunday and indicate an interest to study the Bible with anyone you meet there.

Apologies for the mess you read in this thread.
If you have any doubts due to the mess you read in this thread about witnesses, I have a thread that honestly explains some of the issues raised

https://www.nairaland.com/7943125/jehovahs-witnesses-cult-organisation

Have a nice day and keep being strong. Its not easy but be strong. You may not realise it but your existence is of great importance to loved ones and people around you.

achorladey:
We reach here before you. I know what I am saying when I said PR job on behalf of that religious organization will push you to defend conflicting and contradicting beliefs. It will make you question your sanity.

You started this way....



What public relations entails....

Public Relations Officers work with the media to build and manage relationships between organisations and the public. They keep the public informed on who their client is by creating the brand, responding to enquiries from the public and media and organising interviews.



Public Relations Officers work with the media to build and manage relationships between organisations and the public. They keep the public informed on who their client is by creating the brand, responding to enquiries from the public and media and organising interviews. Read closely you will see the connections to PR.



You are still relating with the public about your religious organization here.



The question once again do Jehovah’s witnesses have nothing to do with blood? A. Yes B. No

Personal conscience or your religious organization policies and procedures regarding blood use is not my problem. That you failed to respond directly already tells me NO is the answer. When you say the Bible told us to have nothing to do with blood, even individual conscience about it is off the table. Yet your religious organization started to add to what keep abstaining means by saying blood fractions are allowed. Allowed where and in what part of the scriptures?



All of the above shows Jehovah’s witnesses still certain things to do with blood.



Witnesses don't manufacture style of treatment, they seek different treatments available in existence from medical experts and personnel. All still shows they still have a lot to do with blood.

Well I have answered you and I understand if my answers were not to your satisfaction. It's all good.

Sakody:
Nowyouknow, I am going to address the topic of this thread. I earlier said in order to know if you are in a Cult, you have to study other Cults and compare to see if Jehovah's Witnesses are truly a Cult. One example of a Cult is Scientology.

So many similarities between Scientology and Jehovah's witnesses.

Both Scientology and the Jehovah’s Witnesses have the same crimes and the same punishments, albeit under different names. In other words, if you’re a Jehovah’s Witness and you believe that Scientology is a Cult. Then you have to admit that the Watchtower society is also a Cult because you have the same methods of control!

Watchtower practices Disfellowshipping
Scientology practices Disconnection

Watchtower calls people who leave Apostates
Scientology calls people who leave Suppressive Persons

Watchtower has a Legal department
Scientology has Office for special affairs

Watchtower says DOUBTS
Scientology says REACTIVE MIND

Watchtower has BETHEL
Scientology has SEA ORG

Watchtower has WARWICK BETHEL
Scientology has GOLD BASE.

Both cults practice the shunning of former members and both cults regard ex-members who criticize their organization as dangerous, liars and proud.

Both cults also control the information their members have access to. Both cults also tell their members to stay away from negative views about them.

Both Cults have documentaries and News stories detailing abuse of members

This is why I am 100% in support of higher education and strongly disagree with the organisation on their view of higher education.
Education gives one enlightenment. It prevents you from being ignorant or kept in the dark and it sharpens ones way of reasoning.

Why should I shunn someone just because the GB says so, when in reality everyone isn't perfect and some are committing grevious sin but are good in hiding and pretending?

What's so special about bethel or Warwick? Are the people living there angels? Are they sinless?

Why shouldn't I question the GB or disagree in certain doctrines that they eventually correct? Are they perfect?

It is only an educated person that can ask himself or herself these questions and answer them honestly.

achorladey:
A. Yes

B. No.

Lol. Easy bro. Am not here to win a debate or convince you to adopt our believes. I have been 100% honest about the organisation and it's flaws, that not public relations.

Am here to answer questions about our organisation to the best of my ability. At the end of it all, You are free to believe whatever it is you what to be believe.

Now to the subject about blood. We reject blood transfusion. However, members are allowed to accept some minor blood fractions, such as albumin, clotting factors, and immunoglobulins, depending on their personal conscience.

We also accept several alternatives to blood transfusion such as: Volume expanders, Antifibrinolytics, erythropoiesis-stimulating agents (esas) and cell salvage.

Hospitals that have the above have no problem in treating members of Jehovah's witnesses.

The point I was trying to make with the news articles I posted is that there are ALOT of risks involved in blood transfusion and alot of medical doctors are beginning to adopt the witness style of treatment. At your leisure you can look for and read this article by the new Yorker.

achorladey:
Public relations job in the realm of Jehovah's Witnesses is not easy. You will have to defend conflicting and contradicting things that in reality don't exist



I have to rephrase this.....



Now let's see what follows



The problem you have is all the Bible verses (Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:10-14, and Acts 15:28-29) have nothing to do with blood transfusion in content and context. So when you say....



You are only advancing the doctrines and commands of men, it has nothing to do with the Bible you carry. The blood the apostles said the congregation should keep abstaining from has nothing to do with blood transfusion in content and context. It reading what is not there into it.

It's not that simple. The scriptures are clear. Abstain from blood. In order words, have nothing to do with blood.

Alot of people are quick to judge witnesses for choosing to abstain from blood when a member dies but are silent when they read news like this

Sakody:
Is this all that you disagree with the Governing body?

The doctrine that only members of Jehovah's witnesses will enter God's kingdom or that we are the only truthful organisation in the entire planet is one I strongly disagree with.

The history of the Organisation has shown that there are alot of things the governing body did not get right. Anyone with sense and ability to reason logically can see for themselves that like other churches we do not know it all.

achorladey:
Your position shows you are knowledgeable enough of what is going on in there....

My profession deals with making extensive research. I know almost everything about my organisation. Things they've done and tried to cover up, blunders in failed prophecies or explanation of certain scriptures, controversial policies etc.


Why they (Governing Body) choose to handle certain things the way they do baffles me. However, I am aware that they are not infallible so I don't judge and condemn them totally. I also take into consideration the fact that some of their teachings are on point and it has saved me from being a member of any of today's new age church with questionable practices. That doesn't mean we (Jehovah's witnesses) are better than every other church. Christianity is not a football club thing we're my club is better than yours. It about your way of life in accordance with God's word the Bible.

This is why when I have non heated arguments with my fellow brothers who seem to take things to the extreme, I tell them to take it easy.

achorladey:
NowYouKnow wants to hide behind individual perspective and whitewash present realities about that religious organization

Hide and white wash or just plain honesty... you're free to see it which ever way you want.

I think the misconception most people have about Jehovah's witnesses is that they are ALL a bunch of brainwashed individuals. If the governing body tells us to jump inside fire then ALL witnesses will jump inside fire right? Wrong!

That's what I want people to understand.

Some may wonder, well if you don't believe in everything they (Governing Body) say why are you a witness?

Because I see reason in some of their teachings and doctrines such as:

Not participating in wars or politics or being members to rebel groups.

Having a realistic view of God and how he operates unlike churches of today that tell you to speak in tongues and paint God to be some sort of father Christmas or superman whose favour you can get if you pay tithe.

Non believe in healings and miraculous works from a particular " Man of God".

Avoiding a hedonistic lifestyle.

Avoiding new age practices. (Yoga , meditation, numerology, kundalini etc)

I choose to remain a witness because I can see for myself that certain teachings have a positive influence over my life. Teachings that are not present in any church today.

Kobojunkie:
I honestly don't get this mentality of yours at all. What meaning is there to claiming one thinks outside of the box all the while sitting tight within the same box?

If you don't get my mentality why seek more answers from me? Live and let live.

achorladey:
I see the above are just ways of them doing everything trick in their power to separate their members from other Christian religious denominations it has nothing to do with pagan practices

Regardless of whether it is a trick or not, let's call a spade a spade. There is no record of Jesus or any of the first century Christians celebrating the day of their birth. Besides, if life is filled with problems, tragedies and tribulations what's really special about the day of one being born and brought to this life? Why is it worth celebrating? The day of one's death is far better than the day he or she was born because the day you die, you rest. No more toiling under the sun.

Kobojunkie:
What exactly is the point in stating that you disagree with some of the views of the organization when you remain locked tight in it?

To let you know that it is not everything they say we should do that witnesses actually do and to let you know that some witnesses are not locked in a box mentally. Some think outside the box. If you still don't understand what I am trying to say then it is all good. You're free to believe whatever you want about Jehovah's witnesses.

oteneaaron:
Do you know that the Madrid High Court in a ruling recently called your organization a "sect or cult"?

This is from a press release about the judgment:

Yes I am aware.
The fact that they did that doesn't mean we actually are a sect or cult.

The Russian government called us extremists and even went as far as jailing some of our members but in 2022 the European supreme court issued a landmark judgement against Russia.

You don't see Jehovahs witnesses protesting or rebelling against governmental authorities do you? You don't see us join political parties that divide the masses, you don't see us encourage violence and destruction against people and their properties, you don't see us in support of wars or rebel groups or weird movements like LGBT, BLM, etc..

We mind our business and separate ourselves from other churches which you and I very well know have been tainted with new age Kabbalah belief's.

Sakody:
Based on the bolded, what are the doctrines from the Governing Body that you disagree with and why do you disagree?

I strongly disagree with their view of higher education. The organisation makes use of professional and qualified experts in their broadcast services from graphic designers, video editors, sound engineers etc... Discouraging higher in my opinion is wrong when you make use of professionals.

Also, the idea that there won't be sickness in God's kingdom and so people shouldn't bother spending years reading medical courses doesn't sit well at all with me.

These are my personal views. I can't speak for other witnesses.

immortalcrown:
All the days of the week have pagan origins. Why don't you avoid those days?

I believe we're talking about birthdays right?

Kobojunkie:
That some members chose to "think outside of the box" all while in the box does not change the fact that the organization is a cult though.

2. Of course not all rules will be accepted by all. Unless the governing body has some sort of militia in place to enforce their every rule, there really is no way it can succeed in coarsing all members into following all of the rules. However, that does not change the cult-ish impact of the organization on its members. Another example of a cult/denomination within the religion of Christianity is Deeper Life. The group has had to abandon several old rules over the years but their status as a cult remains intact, same as that of the JWS.

Very well, to each his own.

oteneaaron:
While I appreciate your honesty on this thread so far, the fact remians that the Jehovah Witness organization is a CULT.

I say this confidently based on the BITE Model created by Steven Hassan.

B - BEHAVIOR

This category explores how manipulative groups regulate and dominate their members’ actions and behaviors through strict rules, rewards, and punishments, limiting individual autonomy.

I - INFORMATION

Examining the tactics of manipulative organizations to control information flow through censorship and propaganda, restricting members’ access to outside perspectives.

T - THOUGHT

Focuses on psychological techniques used by such groups to shape beliefs and attitudes, suppressing critical thinking and promoting conformity.

E - EMOTION

Explores how manipulative organizations manipulate emotions, fostering dependency and loyalty through love-bombing, guilt, and fear-based indoctrination.

I understand. And I don't blame you for having such a view. Some of our members can act like extremists.

Some feel others are spiritually weak based on a certain lifestyle they choose to live. Some will argue tooth and nail to defend certain policies only to later look stupid when such polices are corrected or adjusted.

Like I said above, it is not everything the governing body says that we do. They are infallible men and they make mistakes. That is just the plain honest truth. Some of us live quietly without wanting any privilege of service or seeking some form of recognition or undue attention.

As long as you are not breaking a commandment from God's word the Bible, you're good to go.

MaxInDHouse:
Bye!

Finally
Good riddance.

Yigefengzi:
Hmmmm
Well at least you were honest in your write-up. I appreciate your honesty. You did not try to cover up with lame unreasonable and pointless excuses like that animal that calls himself your brother.

Why do Jehovah's witnesses reject blood fusion?

Please he is not my brother.

To answer your question Jehovah's Witnesses reject blood transfusions based on interpretation of certain biblical passages. We believe that the Bible prohibits the consumption of blood, and this belief extends to receiving blood transfusions. The key scriptures they refer to include passages such as Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:10-14, and Acts 15:28-29.

Speaking of blood transfusion have you all seen this. A first of its kind.