englishmart:
You need to have an IQ of less than 13 to ever consider transgenderism. Let him enjoy his ill-gotten fame with his very bearded face.

Imagine thinking transgenderism, homosexuality or any other deviation from heteronormative norms has anything to do with IQ and thinking you have a high IQ.

Ken4Christ:


I haven't been to the healing school and I can't confirm what you are saying. The point I am making is that miracles still happens. And I have witnessed quite a few in the personal meetings I conducted.

One was a crippled man who came with clutches. But at the end of the meeting, he was healed and carried his clutches home. Few weeks later we checked on him and he was even getting stronger. It happened in a prayer meeting of just about 50 persons 1999.

The second case was also a man on clutches. His case was worse than that of first man. X-RAY revealed that his bones were shattered. So, there was no way he could ever walk.

He didn't start walking during the service. But he said that the message I preached kept coming back to his memory. And I focused on the scripture, 'I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me' taken from Philippians 4:13. He decided to try walking the evening of that day and he was shocked that his legs could carry him. When he went back for the Xray, it was a fresh bone that grew out. The shattered bones were no where to be found.

There are couple of other miracles space will not permit me to include here.

I know that miracles are real. I also know of someone who got healed years back in one of Pastor Chris programme, Day of Bliss in Port Harcourt.

It's always funny how for every single person that claims to have witnessed miracles, the recipient of the miracle is always some obscure, nameless person that no one but them knows. Always. It's never someone that everyone can easily corroborate and validate. Never a politician. Or popular entertainment figure. Or a Paralympian. It's always "my aunty's best friend's son", or something like that. I'm in my early 30's and was raised a Christian all my life (till I saw through the mythology) and I'm surrounded by Christians, but I don't know anybody who has ever actually witnessed a so-called "miracle". If you drill deeper into their stories, they always narrate second hand accounts that they heard from someone. But there's always somebody on the internet to tell you of 10 miracles he's personally witnessed and confirmed.

Either way, the stats look like nonsense. There's little difference between Anambra, Enugu and Imo in terms of percentage of non-indigenes in each state. Not enough difference to account for 2 of those states having 90-something percent while Anambra is around 60%.

This is not well articulated. Does this mean:
1) Percentage of residents of a state that are indigenes of that state (e.g percentage of Anambra residents who are indigenes of Anambra)
2) Percentage of indigenes of a state who reside in their state of origin (e,g percentage of Anambra indigenes who reside in Anambra)

Dottore:
The bitter truth is that 99.9 percent of feminism campaigns are lip service. You don't know the secret tears of an unmarried single lady who is above 30; they pass through a lot of emotional pains that they don't want people to notice.
It's easier for a man in his 50s to marry and remarry a lady half his age than for a lady in her 30s to marry even once let alone to a man few years older than her.
A 40 year old unmarried man is already calling a 35 year old lady an evening newspaper.

The influence of Western culture is not helping matters in promoting monogamy, equal rights and feminism. African ladies imbibed this culture all to their detriment and some simps are giving them a nod.
Monogamy and equal rights are neither biblical nor African culture.
Monogamy is counter productive, it's unnatural and is the major reason of failure in today's marriage, it's tormenting women more than men while at the same time promoting infidelity in marriage

I wish the emboldened were true, but African women (at least, Nigerian women) are far from embracing these. It would be good if they did, so that our overpopulated shiithole could stop breeding like rats, and women here could actually devote themselves to more substantive pursuits other than being baby factories.

You first paragraph also has inherent contradictions. If our society inflicts such punitive, crippling, devastating pressure on unmarried women above 30, then you can't be surprised when many women look to pursue other means of life fulfilment beyond marriage. Except you expect them all to commit suicide for not getting married before 30.

I'm not quite sure what the relevance of "feminism" is to this woman's failures in life. Being a feminist or not doesn't determine whether you'll have a fruitful, happy marriage. Plenty of submissive housewives live in hellish domestic circumstances, married to absolute monsters who they wish would die. Having a partner you're compatible with seems a lot more important. Stories like this are periodically whipped up to massage the very fragile egos of very insecure men who can't handle the reality that the world has evolved and women are a lot more empowered to choose the future they want. If you want to be a housewife who has 6 children and spend all day cooking and cleaning, that's fine. If pursuit of career fulfilment is what makes you happy, that's fine too. There is happiness and misery both ways.

erico2k2:

My question has always been, Why allow anyone to build in such places in the 1st place? why approve the survey and building plan in the 1st place?

You're assuming that it was approved in the 1st place. In most cases it isn't. The owners contact shady people without the right information and connections, and do not get proper authorization from the proper authorities. Ideally, in a sane country where government and major developers are the prime drivers of real estate, these issues don't arise, but in Nigeria where most home owners undertake the personal responsibility of overseeing the building of their houses, it's obviously a poorly regulated market where a lot of people take liberties with the law.

hammerFC:



TINUBU HAVE MOVE TO ABUJA WITH HATE.


HE IS USING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEMOLISH PROPERITIES ON LAND SOLD BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN AREAS LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT HAVE BNO SAY BECAUSE IT WAS DEVELOPED WITH NIGERIA OIL WEALTH BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN LAGOS WAS CAPITAL OF NIGERIA.


HE ALSO WANT TO DEMOLISH IGBO PEOPLE PROPERTIES IN ABUJA.


HE MUST NOT KNOW THAT ARMS ARE WELL DISTRIBUTED IN TODAY'S NIGERIA AND SOON WE WILL JOIN THE DEMOLITON.

It's very clear that Federal government did not sell those lands to anybody. If those lands were legally sold by Federal government, it would be easy to contest in court. Notices would have been posted and painted on the properties a long time ago with ample time for legal challenges. It's very clear those properties built on extensions are not part of the government's masterplan. Anybody that has seen those houses would know they're illegal.

And nobody is impressed by all this your empty chest beating on the internet. Keyboard warrior rambling about "arms".

highchief1:
another name for Nigeria is waste.why demolish when u can evict the owner if he build illegally on govt space.how many times have u seen demolishing in western worlds?ppl are homeless and u are demolishing.sensless to me

So if it is built on drainages, or pipelines, or obstructs right of way for construction of roads, transmission lines, or other public infrastructure, you should just "evict the owner" and leave the illegal house?

FHA is a federal agency, so I'm not sure what this has to do with "Lagos". I've seen many properties in Festac that clearly contravene Festac's masterplan and always known it's a matter of time before the government demolishes them.

Rossikk:


LIAR. YOU DEFINITELY REMEMBER.

SATAN.

Again, pretty sure this never happened. If it did, you'd be able to Google and link to such an exchange.

BACK WHEN I ASKED YOU TO SPEAK YOUR LANGUAGE AND YOU RAN AWAY, NOT EVEN SURE YOU COULD DO THAT. IT WAS SUCH A LONG TIME AGO.

SO TELL, US WHERE YOU ARE FROM?

I CAN STILL CATCH YOU OUT, GUARANTEED.



LIAR. WHERE IN NIGERIA ARE YOU FROM? WHAT IS YOUR LANGUAGE? WHAT IS THE BIG SECRET?

YOU KNOW I WILL CATCH YOU OUT. THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T TALK.

AND BACK THEN WHEN I ASKED YOU, YOU STILL REFUSED TO SAY WHAT PART OF NIGERIA YOU ARE FROM.

LYING CRIMINAL.

Lol.....many, many people on this forum know I'm from Anambra, and I was once doxxed on the Anambra thread by some IPOB idioot troll who posted my Facebook account. But you can believe whatever comforting myths you want. As I said, I wish it were true that I was not Nigerian. Reputations don't come much lower in the world than being a Nigerian.

WHITE DEVIL.

The Bible makes it VERY CLEAR that the real Hebrews were BLACK AFRICANS.

LAMENTATIONS 5:10-12 King James Version

''Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.''

DOES YOUR WHITE SKIN TURN ''BLACK LIKE AN OVEN'' DURING FAMINE?

NO. THAT ONLY HAPPENS TO NEGROES AS EVIDENCED BY VIEWING THE VICTIMS OF FAMINE IN DARFUR AND ETHIOPIA IN YEARS PAST.

The Bible - a book of Bronze and Iron Age mythologies - makes no such claim though. The people of Darfur don't turn "black like an oven" because of famine. They are already very black people by nature. Nobody turns black because of famine, regardless of some figurative expression in a book of myths.

JOB 30:30

''MY SKIN IS BLACK UPON ME!!!!''

Why would a black person be lamenting that "my skin is black upon me"? So if Job is bemoaning his skin blackening in the midst of his tribulations, then that means Job was a black person. What kind of reetarded logic is this? Did you or whatever charlatan came up with this just Google wherever "black" is translated in the Bible?

ZEPHANIA 3:10

''From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, my scattered ones, shall bring my offering.''

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?

IT MEANS THAT YAHWEH'S DISPERSED ARE IN BLACK AFRICA.

BEYOND THE NILE, IE WEST AND CENTRAL AFRICA.

THEY ARE NOT WHITE EUROPEANS FROM RUSSIA, POLAND AND UKRAINE, YOU THIEVING IMPOSTOR.

Yes, Jewish people had contact with Cushitic/Horn groups and vice versa from navigating the Red Sea. Your black asses in the West African hinterlands and coasts had absolutely no historic contact whatsoever with an alien people from the Levant. "West and Central Africa" my arse. Your inferiority complex at having very little documented history leaves you grasping desperately for relevance with an alien civilization you would never even know exists without Christianity and colonialism. Not just a thief, but a laughably ignorant one.

AMOS 9:7

''Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD''

.......

WHY DIDN'T YAHWEH SAY ''ARE YE NOT LIKE THE ROMANS AND TURKS TO ME?'''

WHY THE ''ETHIOPIANS'', IE THE ANCIENT NAME FOR BLACKS?

YOU KNOW WHY?

BECAUSE THE ISRAELITES AND THE 'ETHIOPIANS' WERE ONE AND THE SAME PEOPLE.

HERE ARE THE ANCIENT ISRAELITES BEING LED INTO CAPTIVITY BY THE ASSYRIANS:



The siege of Lachish showing the clearly negroid Israelites kneeling and crawling




DOES NETANYAHU'S HAIR LOOK LIKE THAT?

KINKY HAIR AND DREADLOCKS?

DOES HIS FACE LOOK LIKE THAT WITH BIG FAT NOSE AND THICK LIPS?

YOU DIRTY WHITE BASTARD CLAIMING AFRICAN HERITAGE.

"Ethiopian" (no meaning in Hebrew or Aramaic) referred to dark skinned people in Greek (Africans for sure, but Homer's works also used the term to refer to Eastern Turks and Indians) - and of course, most of the contact Greeks and Greek-speaking people would have had would be with North Africans and Horn of Africa dwellers, navigating the Mediterranean and Red Sea. Certainly not your black asses in the lower continental hinterlands and coasts. Your ancestors NEVER saw the Sahara desert in their lives, nevermind the Mediterranean or Red Sea.

No, Israelites and Ethiopians aren't "one and the same people". They have vastly different histories, are located and indigenous to different locations, speak vastly different languages. There is historic contact, but saying they're the same people is about as reetarded as saying Maghreb people and Spanish or Italian people are the same because of historic contact, conquests and co-existence. There was a minority Ethiopian community who practised Judaism for millennia and most eventually performed aliyah to Israel. Ethiopian people are very proud of their heritage and are not fake Jew claimers - unlike your type claiming an alien culture as your own. Not even the Canaanite groups that are the forebears of Palestinians (with very close genetic links to Jews) who actually live on the land today claim to be Jews, but your black ass is here claiming "real Hebrew".

Speculating about people's ancestry using your interpretation of relief art is a special level of reetarded. This is the 21st century dummy. Archaelogy, anthropology, history, genetics/genealogy testing, historical linguistics which study language families and links between groups - these are tools for discerning people's roots.

Rossikk:


This crazy white Eurocentric thief and bodyguard for European lies actually came on this thread?

White devil, I thought you'd disappeared from Nairaland with your satanic lying self.

''Our inferiority complex as Africans''?

YOU ARE NOT AN AFRICAN.

YOU ARE A WHITE racist devil and PRETENDER who comes here trying to con people that you are an African. And then having gained their trust, push racist anti-African Eurocentric lies that seek to 'whitewash' Africa's glorious history.

A couple years back I challenged you to speak a Nigerian language, by writing down a line in your native tongue, and you could not.

YOU RAN AWAY.

THAT CHALLENGE REMAINS.

WHERE ARE YOU FROM AND WHAT LANGUAGE DO YOU SPEAK?

Pretty sure this never happened. Do you care to post a link of such a time.

Type a few words in your native language let us see, Mr ''African''.

Apparently, you don't know how Google works in 2023.
Honey, I could be Inuit, and all I'd need to do is go on Google and "type a few words" in my "native language" - or any other language I want - `by using Google translate. That would not prove anything, dummy.

''Our'' indeed.

There is no ''OUR'' with you and us.

You are NOT one of us.

You're a satanic person sent to make us ignore all the massive evidence in front of us about the glorious African past, and accept the manufactured history of black insignificance invented by your THIEVING white masters who have no real history of their own apart from brigandage and plunder, and have sought to steal and whitewash the history of black Africans who civilized them out of the savagery of the Caucasus mountains.

Keep trying and keep failing.

Dirty little maggot.

If only the emboldened were true. Unfortunately, life dealt me the cards of being born in the dystopian shithole that is Nigeria, so yes, I'm very much Nigerian, however inconvenient that is for your kooky conspiracy theories.

I don't care about making you or anyone "ignore all the massive evidence in front of us about the glorious African past". I just want you to stop spreading embarrassing misinformation, reetarded conspiracy theories, and regurgitating the garbage you read or watched by Afrocentrist quacks and charlatans. When I see you disseminating garbage like how black people are the REAAAL Jews and actual Jewish people are some kind of impostors, that's far too embarrassing for me to ignore. Nigeria has a lot of uncultured, uneducated people who believe charlatans like you when they read such drivel online.

And no one cares to "steal" your history. Your "history" is simply not that important to the modern world, or relevant to the future of humanity. Africa is unfortunately still the pits of the earth that the rest of humanity don't know how to solve.

QueenNyakim:


Itsekiris people were of the Warri Kingdom that emerged in the 15th century and was originally under Benin's authority but Warri became increasingly independent beginning in the 17th century fool. It was a independent state by the turn of 18th century (refer to the map) when the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade had reached its peak and the only time Warri rivalled the state of Benin. It was made as the base of operations by the Portuguese and Dutch because the Benin Kingdom stopped dealing in the sale of slaves in the 17th century as it was seen as taboo in Benin society.

What do these random facts have to do with the fact that the Itsekiri, like many groups who paid tribute to the Oba of Benin, in a period where you claimed that slavery was banned in Benin (well....ban only on trading the men), were prolific slave traders? What does my comment have to do with whether Itsekiris were part of the Warri Kingdom, who were vassals of Benin? Ignoring the substance of an argument and trying to score points with pedantism.

Export of female slaves was legal up until the 1600s when Benin no longer participated in the sale of human beings to European slave merchants on the coast and like I said from the information you decided to leave out, the sale of slaves was banned by decree throughout the kingdom.

"1522, that is 40 years after the discovery of the New World and 42 years after the commencement of the Tran-Atlantic slave trade, the records of Manacihin Fernandes, a Portuguese Merchant showed that out of the 83 slaves purchased from Benin, only two were males. And this purchase was made after a whole month of waiting at Ughoton in a vain attempt for a market to be opened for male slaves. Infact, his hunch was that even the two male slaves purchased were acquired outside the Oba territory. To further demonstrate the lack of enthusiasm and zeal on the part of the Kingdom with regard to the sale of slaves, the 81 female(mostly between 10 and 20 years of age)were acquired ay a very slow rate of one or two a day; between the 25th of June and 8th of August. As the century wore on, Benin stopped completely from cooperating with Europeans in the business of the exportation of humans(Aisien, 2001:172)."

Its also what makes the limey claim funny that they were the first to ban slavery when considering slavery was still legal throughout the empire until basically 1838. By then, plently of countries had abolished slavery before the British like Haiti that permanently banned it via revolt in 1792, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Chile, Honduras, and Uruguay (some of the few Latin American countries that respected their oath with Haitians for providing support via arms and men).

Even during the time Benin did sell slaves to Europeans, the Oba's made it extremely difficult for said Europeans to attain slaves from the Kingdom. The first couple hundred slaves Benin sold to Portugal ended up in other parts of Africa and the Portuguese controlled archipelagos like Sao Tome and Principe. The Benin Kingdom economy was never reliant on the slave trade, like at all. Trade consisted of Cloth, Benin Peppers, Palm Oil, Ivory, redwood, and other agicultural goods to Europeans such as the Dutch.

Honestly, your sad attempt at trying to paint the Benin Kingdom as proficient slavers like in your first comment isn't passing the laughing test. My primary sources also bunk your flimsy, uninformed claims.

Indeed. That seems a very relevant fact. It's weird, to say the least, to make out like the Benin Kingdom banned slavery in the 1500's - while continuing to trade women and children after. You can only claim to ban slavery when there are no exceptions to the institution. It's not even worth mentioning that "well, you know.....AKSHUALLY, the trading of male slaves was banned".

Also, slaves were traded to Europeans as late as the 18th century in Gwato. And Philip Igbafe, a well-cited Edo historian documents the institution of slavery in Benin surviving into the 19th century. I've also not heard the "limey claim" of being the "first to ban slavery". For sure, the British were integral to the abolitionist movement, given their global reach and naval strength - so they were clearly key to abolishing the institution around the world. You could also fairly accurately say they stopped the transatlantic slave trade. But that's not the same as claiming they were the first people to ban slavery. You're just inventing strawmen and getting mad at the strawmen you're inventing - much like when you somehow made it out like I claimed "the British invaded Benin because of slavery", which was just plucked out of thin air.

I hope he didn't die, but I hope street preachers are shot wherever they are. Very narcissistic set of uncultured savages who think they intrude in your space anytime they wish because of their sky daddy. Reminds me of the BRT bus I entered 2 weeks ago where a woman clad in those Lord's Chosen rags started preaching immediately the journey started even though she could clearly see the "No hawking, no preaching" signs in the bus. Some passengers admonished her to stop, and the driver almost parked the bus while shouting from the front for her to observe the rules, but the low IQ slowpoke just continued. Religion has turned most of us in this country to brain-dead zombies.

Kushites:


Ignorant slave dunce with no brain. Are you even aware that black Africans ruled and brought education and learning to Europe between 711 and the 1500s, nearly 900 years?

And thousands of years before that, black Africans invented writing, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, architecture, mining of minerals and iron smelting, seafaring, and international trade.

These are inventions and innovations without which there would be NO modern age today.

I know all this sounds like a fairytale to your little brainwashed-to-feel-inferior head, but basic research into your black history reveals a LOT of facts you know absolutely nothing about.

If you're referring to the Umayyad conquest of Spain (often referred to as the "Moors" and other Muslim invaders after them, those were not "black Africans". They were a mix of Berbers from the Maghreb, and Arabs. Due to our inferiority complex as Africans, we often love to claim histories that don't belong to us: the Moors, Egypt, some Afrocentrist lunatics that even claim the history of Israel and the Levant. The originator of this thread for example has asserted in his fevered delusions that Jewish people today are actually European impostors, and the REAL Jews were actually Africans who were displaced from Israel.

QueenNyakim:


Benin Empire banned male slave exports in 1516 as prohibitted by Oba Esigie and especially after 1530 when its textiles industry began to thrive. And later the trade stopped altogether in the late 1600s. The Portuguese were forced to move to Warri for slaves.

read Thornton or Ryder.

Also,

A study of the Portuguese-Benin Trade Relations: Ughoton as a Benin Port (1485 -1506) ( by Michael Ediagbonya) and A Critique of the Contributions of Old Benin Empire to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade

http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol20-issue8/Version-2/B020820412.pdf

https://www.academia.edu/15423239/A_study_of_the_Portuguese-Benin_Trade_Relations_Ughoton_as_a_Benin_Port_1485_-1506_by_Michael_Ediagbonya_

Basically, the slave trade in the Benin Empire was seen as taboo and merchants caught practicing in the illegal trade were severely punished by decree and only criminals were sacrificed. The British didn't invade Benin because of "slavery" lol it banned centuries ago but they got fed up of Benin's protectionist policies that stopped British influence regarding trade.

Its nothing more than white supremacist propaganda that a blanket statement that all Africans as if we are all a monolith part-took in the slave trade and sold our "own" people to Europeans and Arabs.

You created a lot of strawmen here, and you're responding to strawmen you created as if it's somehow my assertion. Who said that the British invaded Benin because of slavery? Who said that all Africans took part in the slave trade? Slavery was pretty ubiquitous in the Benin Kingdom. Usually not the Obas themselves trading with the Portuguese and subsequently other Europeans that came after, but the constituent nations of the Benin Kingdom that paid tribute to the Oba, like the Itsekiris, were prolific slave traders right up to the late 18th century.

I note where you said above that the Oba "banned male slave exports in 1516". So were female slave exports tolerated? Is it a ban on the institution of slavery if it's conditional on your sex, or whether you're a war captive, or criminal, or whoever?

billyG:

Do you now agreed that Palestinians are not philistines.

Who said Palestinians are Philistines? You are arguing against your strawman you invented. Not much is known about the Philistines, said to have Aegean roots, as they were lost to the conquests of the Assyrian, Babylonian and Persian empires. They're basically a "lost tribe". Some Palestinians MAY have some ancestry from them. Palestinians themselves aren't monolithic and are descended from various ancient Canaanite groups.

The point is that your claim that "Palestinians are arabs that occupy istrael" is a Zionist conspiracy theory that makes it out as if the existence of Palestinians is an invention by Arabs to steal Israel - making it out as if all Arabs are the same, when in reality, Arabs are very diverse people with very different histories and heritages, and Palestinian existence in Palestine/Israel has nothing to do with other Arabs.

billyG:

Those Palestinians are not one and d same as d philistines who occupy gaza in Moses time....the modern day Palestinians are arabs that occupy istrael.d name palestina was given by d roman invaders to erase Jewish heritage from that land.

Says who?

Arab is not a monolithic identity. It's more of a colonial identity - like the British Commonwealth. Saudis for example (or northern Sudanese who are also Arab) and Palestinians are not the same people just because they speak Arabic due to historic jihad that conquered, and united many distinct Middle Eastern and North African groups under the Arab ethno-linguistic identity. By genetic and archaelogical studies, Palestinians are much closer relations with Jews than they are with Saudis. Those people today who are called "Palestinian" trace very old lineages in the Levant, distinct from other Middle Eastern Arabs. There is almost no Palestinian today whose family have not lived in the area of Palestine/Israel for centuries - unlike most Israeli Jews who are 1st and 2nd generation immigrants from far-flung lands as far as northern Russia.

viodemus:
May God be with Israel in these trying times.

The terrorstinans wanted to kill as many Israelis and take over their nuclear weapons. If they had succeeded, they would have started nuking everywhere, including the aloof South Africa.


Israel should really fast forward the opening of their cooperation sites in SE Nigeria, we share the same problems. We have hard core northern arab slaves, that helped Hamas plan this attack and are also helping hamas to hold kidnapped israelis.

The world needs peace and love, but the igbos need to get quickly mature to work with other shared ideologies in this new world cooperation and divides, that will shape up. It is an economic, security, and law abiding ideology. The islamics terrorist want destruction and more destruction, while they scream Allah- a very useless terrorist name.
Igbos, be wise. The two muslim hateful tribalist figureheads in Nigeria, don't have your best interest, and they are not trying. We the igbos, need to strengthen more mentally and maturely.

We Igbos are a peaceful people and we are s true proud African tribe, but Africa has been infiltrated by the arabs in a very unhealthy way. Just look at the islamic areas of the north and also the growing extremism in the islamics sw. These extremist keep raising the stakes in the wrong direction without an care for others not in their ideology. Look at stealibu, a very hateful tribalist criminal, whose only promise to the north, was that he will destroy the igbos and their cousins.

We igbos hope for peace, and will continue to be law abiding and progressive, but will not and should not be timid to survive and righteously be successful.


May God continue to bless the Great region.

May God continue to bless America.

May God continue to bless the great state of Israel.

Islamic cultist will fail.

Lol......wetin concern Israel and SE Nigeria? Israel discriminate against Ethiopian Jews and even Mizrachi Jews and you think they have time for your black arse. Everything to you clowns is about religious war - as if the conflict between Israel and Palestinians is about religion.

Africa has been infiltrated by Arabs according to you. You think Africa's problem is Arabs? You think your wretched, impoverished society is better off than Egypt or Libya or Tunisia or Morocco or Algeria? Arabs are the reason we're the armpits of the world, abi?

falopey:


You asked when did they steal it? After Roman chased Jews out of Israel and renamed it Syria-palestina, some remnants of Jews remained in the land until Islam was born and Muslim Arabs conquered Syria-Palestina (formerly judea samaria)

I understand that land ownership throughout history is by conquest. Palestinian Arab ancestors did it and Jews do it back to them.


Nothing is wrong about native Americans claiming their land back if they can fight and conquer America. But good luck with that

So the Romans stole it from the Jews who ran away, and not Arabs? And almost 2 millennia later, after the Germans almost exterminated them from the human race, they decided that displacing people actually living in the lands was their manifest destiny.

Yes, many Jews remained in the land, and remained throughout the Middle East (Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria etc) and were far safer than they were in Europe where they suffered many pogroms. Yet, people today act like every Arab wants to just slaughter all Jews. As if Palestinian resentment of their occupiers has no basis in real grievances and they just irrationally want to attack Jews.

falopey:
no it’s because they know a lot of Palestinians are jihadists. Egypt rely too much on tourism. They don’t want chaos in their country

Lol....Egyptians overwhelmingly support Palestinians, although the Egyptian government hates Hamas, because Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood who have threatened and plotted to overthrow Egyptian governments. The real reason Arab governments have resolved never to resettle Palestinians is precisely because they want the Palestinians to stay and stake their claims against Israel. Israel want to expel the Palestinians to make their land theft complete and the Arab governments will never allow that. The holiest sites in Islam outside Saudi Arabia are in the West Bank and the Arabs don't want the Palestinians to ever give it up.

falopey:


Palestinians stole that land from Jews. Do you know that Bethlehem the birth place of Jesus is in West Bank? They stole it and the real owners came back

When did they steal it? Do you care to chronicle how this theft happened rather than wild beer parlour claims. The people whose ancestors left Israel 2000 years ago under Roman occupation are the "real owners" how? Native Americans can't even ask anyone to leave the US, but Jews scattered across Europe and the Middle East for over 2000 years can just wake up one day and displace people who families have lived there for over a thousand years. That makes sense to you, abi? If they own it because Jesus was born there, can the other Semitic groups who lived there before them (the Bible afterall claims Israel displaced the Canaanites who lived on the land) also go back further to claim it belonged to their ancestors?

falopey:


The bold is a propaganda. How do Palestinians that work in Isreal move? Because I do not allow you to flood my country illegally which Palestinians would like to do in Israel to commit terror doesn’t mean no one is allowed to move.

Palestinian that pass security checks are allowed in Israel. Do you visit any country without an invitation or visa

Gaza is supposed to be contiguous with other Palestinian territory stretching across the West Bank - territory that Israel occupies. Gaza's residents are not supposed to need papers to move around in their own lands. You seem to be missing the point that Israel has stolen and occupied most of the land, and left Palestinians trapped in an archipelago of disconnected bantustans, where they require the special permission of their Jewish masters to move around. This has occurred in the world before in the days of apartheid South Africa.

AutoChick4U:
not possible. That's Israel ancestral land far back as the days of prophet Moses.

The Biblical story of Israel is complete nonsense according to archaelogical studies. But even if we took the Bible's story seriously, the very same Bible claims Israel displaced the Canaanites from the land they came to occupy. So this means the land is not even the "ancestral land" of the Jews.

falopey:


One and only goal of hamas is to destroy Israel. Israel has offered them peace deal and offer for them to become a state which they reject until they see Israel destroyed. Jews are on their ancestral land that Arabs so called Palestine stole.

What resources exactly does Palestine have? lol
They can seek for jobs within their territory if they don’t want one from Israel

Hamas does not represent all Palestinians. Palestinians in the West Bank (who outnumber Gaza residents) are ruled by the Palestinian Authority and Israel would not make a deal with them. Instead, they continue to develop Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. The Palestinians are also on ancestral land. Gaza is thousands of years old and has never been a Jewish city. Palestinians have lived in these lands for centuries - some millennia. The vast majority of Jews in modern day Israel are 1st or 2nd generation immigrants from Europe and the Middle East. It seems crazy to suggest Palestinians should leave their homes for German and Russian and Polish and Hungarian Jewish migrants.

falopey:



No, it’s Israel’s land and air boarders bordering Gaza. Not inside Gaza. Every country has that right to control land and air boarders within their territory to secure their borders.

Are you going to fault Nigeria if it sent military to protect its borders against Mali. Of course Mali won’t complain

This is a silly comparison. Gaza is not some sovereign country whose residents violate Israel's borders. Gaza is under an air, land and sea blockade since 2007. No one is allowed to leave it except Israel (and partially Egypt which controls 1 of 5 land crossings) allows them to (and they rarely do). It's basically an open air prison camp.

It's easy to educate yourselves on the basics of this conflict, but so many of you choose not to and just spout nonsense propaganda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

I have no inclination to support Hamas seeing as I despise Islamic fundamentalists and fanatics, but the Palestinian struggle is a legitimate struggle against an occupation, settler-colonialism by immigrant Jews, and apartheid and not just some nonsense religious war. There are very real issues here that Israel bears its share of responsibility for.

Rebuke:







Can yhu back up yhur claim with any evidence? No, just the usual propaganda and emotional blackmail ....

Lol......which part of his entirely accurate summary do you need "evidence" for? I can provide it for you since you're too lazy to use Google.

falopey:
and last time I checked, every country has the right to demarcate its board whether by building a fence like the US has done separating Mexico or by other means.

Besides, no one acknowledges the fact that Gaza uses free electricity from Israel and Palestinians are given work permits to work in Israel after passing security checks

I'm sure the Palestinians will much prefer statehood and control of their own land and resources than getting "work permits" to work in their occupier's stolen land. In case you're not aware, there's an almost 2 decades air, land and sea blockade of Gaza by Israel, rendering the city an open air prison, and there are very severe restrictions on what they can bring into the enclave. This is why Gaza is dependent on Israel for many services. Israel is not doing it for charity. Other Arab states are not asking Israel to provide electricity or water for them.

pixel704:

Presently more casualties on Israel side but go check history whenever it seems Israel is facing the worst it always results into greater gain to Israel and lost to it enemies ( Holocaust result into Israel going back to their land, al Israeli Arab war leads to expansion of it land mass) washout what Gaza especially will loose in time of land mass ( the little that's not enough will be taken from them again the way Syria lost Golan Heights to Israel)

So Europeans perpetrated the Holocaust and almost wiped Jews off the face of the earth, and yet, the "enemies" the Jews faced was not the Europeans who tried to exterminate them, but the dispossession of Palestinians? Interesting logic.

Gajagojo:


Oh
they will counter that with the claim that the Conquest of Canaan was ordained by Jehovah

Of course. Immediately the Israelites explained that God gave them the land that already belonged to other people, all the displaced people immediately understood and relinquished all claims to the land.

Gajagojo:


Israelites left Egypt for Canaan?

What is the source of that claim?

Who are Israeltes? And what is their connection to those people who were brought to Palestine from Europe in 1947

I particularly hate arguing with Nigerians about the Israel/Palestinian conflict because so many Nigerians are very incurious people who can't be bothered to do the minimum research and just regurgitate Biblical nonsense (they don't seem to understand the Bible is not actually documented history). But even if we accepted their Biblical claims at face value, it contradicts the point they're trying to make about Israel being the eternal owners of the disputed land today, given that the Bible claims Israel conquered the land from people who were already on the land.

Thegamingorca:


I don't know what you smoked last night. But ever since the Israelites left Egypt for Canaan land they have always inhabited that strip amongst Arab nations.

Again Jews don't live in Palestine. Jews live in mainland Israel.

That's not the question he asked you that you're running away from. How many Jews lived in Palestine (go and learn what "Palestine" refers to before rambling about "mainland Israel" ) in 1945? Answer the question. You can Google it if you need help.