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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 5:32pm On Aug 20, 2021
The U.S still has numerous options to salvage its broken image currently in d light of what is going on in Afghanistan:
(1) Joe Biden should either be forced to resign, or impeached for dereliction of duty, brazen incompetence and endangering the lives of American citizens abroad (taking into perspective d chaos in Afghanistan).
(2) Also, The 25th Amendment can be invoked with the Vice President presiding over it. Biden does not have the mental capability to make critical decisions when d chips are down. This further endangers the lives of not just U.S citizens but other foreigners as well e.g The current debacle playing out in Afghanistan where foreigners are forced to evacuate their citizens. Many other lives are on d line.

Liberals will be mad at this but that's the honorable thing to do.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 5:05pm On Aug 20, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJrH3flEIU
Watch this:
So Biden knew but willfully ignored warnings (in memo format) before the disaster in Afghanistan?
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:32pm On Aug 20, 2021
basilico:
TV presenter lady banned from accessing her office by the Taliban.
Never trust these snakes. They are like democrats only worse.Say one thing do the other.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klhmUd9mPtc
The Taliban will start showing glimpses of their true colors and more as the time passes on. For now they are trying to gain validation, legitimacy and partnership from the international community while the skeptic eyes of the world are on them with every move they make.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:06am On Aug 20, 2021
Sinking

Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 10:07pm On Aug 19, 2021
Looks like the whole world is angry with sleepy Joe Biden for his shabby handling of Afghanistan, lambasting him left, right and center. Poor libtards must be having a hard time swallowing that grin
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:18am On Aug 18, 2021
basilico:

They know he does not know anything and is incapable of dealing with a situation his handlers have not prepared him for.
He went back to his vacation after his 16 minute speech. He took no questions from the media at this crisis time.
Aljazeera commented that even the Taliban are taking questions from the media.
@bolded shocked
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:16am On Aug 18, 2021
basilico:


Salford the Canadian wants a reliable media agency you got this info from
He trusts Taliban spokesman Mujahid XYZ than fox news
lol
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:42am On Aug 18, 2021
Biden has not spoken to a single world leader - not even the best of U.S allies - since the event of Taliban takeover of Afghanistan

Wow!!!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:31am On Aug 18, 2021
The Taliban have formed a ring around their Airport, blocking exit from foreigners resident in Afghanistan. Most planes that arrive leave empty.

Now wait for it!!















The White house is trusting and hoping that the Taliban would somehow allow U.S citizens a "safe passage" to leave without harm.

This same Taliban that has been shouting "Death to America" shocked
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:20am On Aug 18, 2021
Reported Mastermind of the Taliban take over of Afghanistan was released from Guantanamo Bay by OBAMA in Bergdhal Prisoner swap. Holy sh*t! shocked

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:07am On Aug 18, 2021
Thousands of Americans are trapped and stranded in Afghanistan across enemy lines and the Biden Administration doesn't know Jack shit about how many. They are only telling them to find a shelter somewhere. What a disaster!!!
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 3:28pm On Aug 17, 2021
basilico:


The afghans want sharia law which is their supreme law of the land.Talibans want the laws as they were in the 7th century especially concerning women and Islamic punishments.


That's pretty scary even for the modern day followers of Islam. No wonder many fled the country in their hundreds on board a U.S plane

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Foreign Affairs / Who Really Are The Taliban? All You Need To Know by obixcel(m): 3:23pm On Aug 17, 2021
Introduction
Taliban, Pashto Ṭālebān (“Students”), also spelled Taleban, ultraconservative political and religious faction that emerged in Afghanistan in the mid-1990s following the withdrawal of Soviet troops, the collapse of Afghanistan’s communist regime, and the subsequent breakdown in civil order. The faction took its name from its membership, which consisted largely of students trained in madrasahs (Islamic religious schools) that had been established for Afghan refugees in the 1980s in northern Pakistan.

Origin and rule
The Taliban emerged as a force for social order in 1994 in the southern Afghan province of Kandahār and quickly subdued the local warlords who controlled the south of the country. By late 1996, popular support for the Taliban among Afghanistan’s southern Pashtun ethnic group, as well as assistance from conservative Islamic elements abroad, had enabled the faction to seize the capital, Kabul, and gain effective control of the country. Resistance to the Taliban continued, however, particularly among non-Pashtun ethnic groups—namely, the Tajik, the Uzbek, and the Hazara—in the north, west, and central parts of the country, who saw the power of the predominantly Pashtun Taliban as a continuation of the traditional Pashtun hegemony of the country. By 2001 the Taliban controlled all but a small section of northern Afghanistan.

World view and opinion
World opinion, however, largely disapproved of the Taliban’s social policies—including the near-total exclusion of women from public life (including employment and education), the systematic destruction of non-Islamic artistic relics (as occurred in the town of Bamiyan), and the implementation of harsh criminal punishments—and only Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates ever recognized the regime. More significant was the fact that the Taliban allowed Afghanistan to be a haven for Islamic militants from throughout the world, including an exiled Saudi Arabian, Osama bin Laden, who, as leader of al-Qaeda, stood accused of organizing numerous terrorist attacks against American interests. The Taliban’s refusal to extradite bin Laden to the United States following the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City and on the Pentagon outside Washington, D.C., on September 11, 2001, prompted a military confrontation with the United States and allied powers (see September 11 attacks; Afghanistan War). The Taliban was subsequently driven from power.

Insurgency and resilience
Taliban insurgency against U.S. and NATO forces continued in the years following the Taliban’s ouster. The Taliban funded its efforts in large part through a thriving opium trade, which reached record levels several years after the fall of the Taliban. Although expelled from Kandahār by the invasion, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar reportedly continued to direct the insurgency from an unknown location; he was thought by some to be in Pakistan, although the Taliban denied that. In July 2015 the Afghan government discovered that Omar had died in 2013 in a hospital in Pakistan. Mullah Akhtar Mansour was appointed as his successor, and he was killed in a U.S. air strike in Pakistan in May 2016. Haibatullah Akhundzada took leadership later that month, though his role remained largely confined to the political and religious spheres. The militant wing of the Taliban came increasingly under the direction of the Haqqani network, whose leader Sirajuddin served as deputy leader of the Taliban. Meanwhile, the Taliban’s continued resilience and the inability of Afghanistan’s central government to exert control throughout the country prompted the central government to seek reconciliation with the Taliban. Officials under Pres. Hamid Karzai had met informally with Taliban leaders, and the first formal contact was made under Pres. Ashraf Ghani. The Taliban continued to see the central government as fundamentally illegitimate, however, and insisted on talks with the foreign power that had installed it: the United States.

U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and the Taliban’s resurgence
The Taliban and the United States began meeting in 2018, with the help of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates, the only countries to have a diplomatic relationship with both parties. The discussions focused on the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, though the United States hoped to eventually push the Taliban to negotiate with the central government. In July 2019 the discussions included central government officials for the first time, who agreed with representatives of the Taliban on general principles for future reconciliation talks. The Taliban’s representatives were not authorized by the organization to negotiate in an official capacity, but observers considered the meeting a successful icebreaker.

By early September the United States and the Taliban had reportedly come to an agreement in principle and were narrowing in on the details of a signed deal when an attack by the Taliban in Kabul killed a U.S. service member. Days later a secret meeting between top U.S. and Taliban officials was called off by the U.S.; the cancellation was blamed on the attack.

A deal was struck in late February 2020. The Taliban agreed to begin talks with the central government within 10 days of signing the agreement and to prevent al-Qaeda and the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL; also called Islamic State in Iraq and Syria [ISIS]) from operating in Afghanistan. The United States, for its part, would phase out its troop presence in the country over a 14-month period; it began reducing troop levels in March. After a delay caused by the central government’s reluctance to carry out a prisoner swap promised to the Taliban by the United States, negotiations between the Taliban and the central government began on September 12. By April 2021, however, little progress had been made in the negotiations. Nevertheless, the United States reiterated its commitment to complete the withdrawal of its troops, although it delayed its deadline from May to September.

Emboldened by the withdrawal, the Taliban rapidly captured dozens of districts by late June and targeted provincial capitals. Although the group appeared to lack the manpower and firepower to hold its gains against the larger and better-equipped armed forces of the central government, the latter’s lack of coordination and lack of responsiveness to the insurgency allowed the Taliban to overrun the country within months. By mid-August the Taliban had captured nearly all of the country, including Kabul.

EXCERPT from https://www.britannica.com/topic/Taliban

Till date, The President of Afghanistan has fled the Country, unable to fend off the Taliban invasion.

THE COUNTRY IS CURRENTLY IN CHAOS.
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:16pm On Aug 17, 2021
What's Next after Taliban Takeover?
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:07pm On Aug 17, 2021
obixcel:
@bolded spot on. Biden made it look like most people didn't want him to pull the troops out of Afghanistan. The point is how it was done, the method, the stages, the process. The whole thing was so shabby, hasty and unplanned, hence the chaos that followed.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Afghanistan: 800 People Crammed Into A US Plane As They Escape From Kabul by obixcel(m): 12:51pm On Aug 17, 2021
Etizz:


Please what is really happening, I guess I am not understanding, is it that a country called Taliban took over power from Afghanistan? I am not understanding or Taliban is a group?
The name, TALIBAN means ''Students''. In the mid 90s they originated as students of an Islamic sect headed by certain persons. You can google to find out more.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:21pm On Aug 17, 2021
benalvino3:


Sorry the mod konk you. I really don't report anyone except when they doxx.

You don't know anything about me but I know you, I have seen all your kids and can tell when you lie and when you don't from the information I have gathered about you.

You don't fool anyone here even the cronies on your side.
Do you spend time with your wife? You have been hear since 3pm your local time and you will be here till thy kingdom come grin

Oldman behaving like a toddler
PrideofToddler grin grin grin grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:19pm On Aug 17, 2021
benalvino3:


Everyone or most people want the pull out but not like this. All of you magically or rightfully say this is inevitable, how come Biden and his generals don't see it? What did they do to take mitigate this?

They could have just come out saying the truth to begin with.

Address the world and say what is going to happen.

Some of you pushing conspiracy here, Russia and China will always enter where America left for strategic reasons.

Biden is a disaster
@bolded spot on. Biden made it look like most people didn't want him to pull the troops out of Afghanistan. The point is how it was done, the method, the stages, the process. The whole thing was so shabby and unplanned, hence the chaos the followed.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 4:40pm On Aug 16, 2021
raumdeuter:


This is getting interesting
See more CNN of all people is canceling out Biden's false statement. The world is coming to an end indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDu8bg64khk
grin grin grin
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 3:33pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


They are now 6000 troops sent back into Afghanistan. I bet they are planning to send more troops. clueless
lol
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 3:33pm On Aug 16, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_D3nFJ9sis
Where's the President? grin
When CNN turns on the Biden Admin., you know it's gotten real bad grin
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:59pm On Aug 16, 2021
feedthenation:


---This won't be the first time Republicans have been negotiating with the 'hardliners' from Afghanistan---

---Ronald Regan with the Afghan mujahideens at the WH in the 1980s when they were invaded by the Russians---
You are yet to come to terms with the word, RESPONSIBLITY. For instance, If you, as a President, are going to a major foreign policy action, then you should be ready to take responsibility for the resulting effect of that action. You don't pass the buck, u own it. It's that simple.
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:53pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


Fixated on deal that has nothing to do with Biden fuckup. Own It and take the L.

Biden pull the troops before he thought about the safety of US personels and other foreign personels in the country. Biden is clueless.

Biden claimed that there was no way a situation would arise where U.S embassy personnel in Kabul will be air lifted from the roof top - A BIG FAT LIE grin grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:50pm On Aug 16, 2021
raumdeuter:


So what is not true? 9/11 happened under Bush and he didnt sit down blaming Clinton. Like Biden and his people like you are trying to do in this case
Looks like he didn't understand ur point grin
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:44pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:
You can't help a corrupt people.
The Biden Administration was busy making tik tok videos and feeding Joe Biden ice cream; The Pentagon was busy studying ''White rage'' and planning LGBTQ pride marches. Biden even boasted that the Afghan troops were well trained and could never be overrun by the Taliban - A BIG FAT LIE
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:24pm On Aug 16, 2021
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:05pm On Aug 16, 2021
MaziAlaye:

It's gonna be a long 4yrs for them coz they'll continue to blame trump for Biden's ineptitude
Liberals' attitude to this whole disaster is quite predictable. I knew they would blame Trump just to shield Biden. According to them when Biden screws up, just scream 'Orange man bad'. They forget that the bucks stop at the table of the Commander In Chief, and he makes the final decision.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:01pm On Aug 15, 2021
sanpipita:
When I tell these guys not to politicize this matter they won't listen, Trump had a plan ko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_e8oSxQtSk

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 10:51pm On Aug 15, 2021

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:44pm On Aug 15, 2021
benalvino3:


Feed your family first. Your first daughters sells soap according to stuff posted here and she also begs online on go fund me to fund the burial of the woman you used to secure your visa. This is why you are 63 and still irresponsible. Man that has a family and a wife and a job won't be having sleepless nights because of Nairaland.

You got nothing bro. Your only joy is that you live in a Geolocation (America)
@Bolded OUCH!!! grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
benalvino3:


Biden did not follow through. There is action and reaction. Biden did not react. The press told him it is inevitable the taliban will take over and the illegitimate president said its not inevitable. The press understands what's going on.

Trump signed a peace deal and the Taliban was testing it by attack Afghan checkpoint and Trump bombed them Killing some of them. They realise he means business and stopped their activities only to resume when Biden wins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxoAZ7NqwgU
This sheds more light
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:19pm On Aug 15, 2021
benalvino3:


Not hypocrisy. I for one agreed the troops should come back and I initially supported biden but the way he did it is the problem. Even Trump wants the troops back. Also, situation awareness is important and Biden has no clue.
You just said the key word there @ bolded

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