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simonjassy:
Nope,the problem here is chris angel calls it "magic" and pastor chris calls it "miracle".
Hence what differentiate "miracle" from "magic"

diggz:


No source!

simonjassy:
I have seen chris angel do more than this.Btw, he is a magician.what is the difference when pastors do this and when magicians do the same.

raumdeuter:
We have many challenges in Nigeria how about they pick some of these

Miracle road, hospital school airport electricity etc

There is a psychiatry in Yaba, maybe cripple in Agege but audio doesn't do what can be verified

raumdeuter:
Was God performing a miracle in that instance?
According to the bible there were miracles like falling the walls of Jericho, saying let there be light without having to connect cables to national grid etc

raumdeuter:
What are these miracles of Idahosa? Can he lay hands on Asaba soil and a bridge will grow to connect Onitsha?
Can he sit in Benin and find himself in California?

We need roads and railway in Nigeria no pastor has been able to lay hands on the soil and roads and rail spring up but na one fiction of wetin science or nature don do finish they will be claiming glory for

A scientist can tell you give me these items and within 6months I will build a car, road, a house etc that we can all see and touch

raumdeuter:
Let them go first now and show us the evidence

Ordinary scoreline we dey beg for na audio

Enter America without plane or ship from Naija mba

But na unverifiable things dem specialize in

raumdeuter:
Bill Gates is more brilliant than me and he developed a product everyone used. The day I can do that I will become as wealthy

raumdeuter:
You have yet to prove otherwise

E.g get to America without physical means just by spiritual means

Skimpledawg:
Ignorance my brother, ignorance.

raumdeuter:
All the pastor preaching healing this is the time to prove themselves but no, they are all waiting for science to find a cure and later come to church to give the testimony

Why not enter Milan or Wuhan and lay hands on people to get healed

raumdeuter:
The summary of mine is that you ONLY get rich by economic means not by spiritual means

If you have evidence of spiritual riches lets put it to test and isolate it or switch it with other scenarios to know the impact of that spiritual riches not by using economic means to get money and claiming its spiritual

Pastors getting rich is by economic means because when many people contribute to one person he will be rich even if he's an atheist

Why are the pastors not ignoring the economic factors and using spiritual means to get rich

Its like claiming I can use jazz to travel yet I still enter plane when I am going to America and claim its my jazz that's aiding the plane to move me to America

Isolate your jazz from planes and move with the jazz alone

Or put your jazz on a snail or tortoise and use it to get to America

Izzou airmark that is my point

BlueRayDick:
Well if u want to argue the market monopoly, I can categorically tell u at a point Otedola had monopoly for diesel importation in Nigeria. That was what one the factors that made him.

U are not getting it. Nobody will argue with u if u say u worship "shigidi" and it gave u money, what Dayo is oh saying it is ; it is easy to disprove that fact because the person did not sit idle and shigidi sprayed him money, rather he went on to hustle and do some other things....

I'm actually not arguing the fact....I'm only trying to point out his point which u don't seem to get from the conversation between u two

izzou:
[color=royalblue]And I know billionaires that attribute their success to God

Dangote, Maduka, and a lot of others attend churches and mosques, and they believe whatever works for them. So we can agree that they all are confused, and don't know what works for them?

There are people who believe that when they give alms, they receive it back. Does that mean they are being defrauded? Or that they are stupid and confused?

Yes, I agree that some pastors are fake. At least this Covid-19 is revealing that. But because you don't believe in something doesn't make it false

People pay millions as tithes. And to them, it's what's elevating them. You and I don't know them better than they know themselves.[/color]

Leyqute:


This guy is unique.

Ibime:
Go and watch the latest video. He said God told him the World will be going on Holiday, and he said because of what happened in 9/11, he didn't want to say anything incase Interpol come for him

Ibime:
Hehehe. My guy said he never revealed his revelation because he didn't think people would understand if he revealed that God told him the World will be going on holiday, yet he expect people to understand the meaning of World Convulsing like a baby.

I'm sure he would have used that generic "one size fits all" revelation to cover any plane crash or even the matter with Iran and America in January assuming he has not used it already.

Imagine Nehemiah coming after the fact to say God revealed something to him, but he refused to disclose to Israel because he was scared of Interpol. He could at least lie well and say God told him not to reveal.

Any sheeple is free to believe what they want.

Ibime:
Giving is completely voluntary. It should not be emphasised in Church.

Ibime:
So God gave him the revelation and he did not disclose because he was scared of Interpol?

The man is a liar and a fraudster.

airmark:


Ok

raumdeuter:
Go and watch our elimination game in USA 94 vs Italy and 98 vs Denmark, na those crucial moments Okocha remember to start doing rainbow flick over Albertini Bennarivo Maldini, Thomas Helveg etc

Even Japan Korea world cup na Aghahowa score our only goal, na Okocha dey remove jersey to jubilate to show the "I love you Nkechi under vest"

GloryIsaac:
Honestly, when i see those small teams sit back and just keep shooting the ball up for 90mins so they can salvage at least a draw, it's so annoying...

United's mode of attack has changed with Ighalo and Bruno in the squad.... let them sit back nah, let's see how it goes.

GloryIsaac:
They should seat deeper very well, we'll know who'll benefit from it.

The days of relying on Lingard and Perriera to link our midfield with attack is gone... those teams should please sit back, na outside shot we go use finish them

I'm so glad that Bruno is here, let those teams pls sit back o... after two or three outside shots threaten their goalie very well, no be person go tell them to change tactics.

airmark:
Ronaldo and Henry deservedly took his place. Remove those two, he will confidently dance shakushaku and dislodge any mofo.

eph12:
I dey craze?

eph12:
My own 11 will be

Schmeichel

Phil Cavalho Vidic Evra

Scholes Keane Lampard

Rooney Henry Giggs

Expert17:
Hazard will struggle to enter Chelsea best 11

airmark:
God bless you. That was why i wanted to know who and who godx wanted to put in his epl11.

Ronaldo's best 3yrs for Man utd in epl, was more outstanding than Schole's 19yrs. If Ronaldo won't make it, 60% of names people dropped shouldn't make it.

Now i could see the likes of expert and afrodoc changing positions after your post, after they had called hardeycute names for defending Ronaldo. '2face' people.