₦airaland Forum

Why is India light years ahead of Nigeria politically?

Never mind, Aigbofa likes to make random statements that are not backed by evidence on ground. And besides, he lives in Nigeria. His understanding of India is limited to what he sees and hears in Bollywood films.

AjanleKoko:
You sure about that? India looks a right mess to me, infrastructure wise. In fact, just like Nigeria. Aside from pseudo-cities like Bangalore and Hyderabad, the masses live in abject poverty. They also have a profligiate, wasteful middle class. T[s]hough they are much more developed intellectually than Nigerians[/s], and certainly more entreprenural. Our own British-imposed civil service mentality is part of our undoing.

Nonsense.

[flash=300,300]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17vC8qZILJE?version=3&hl=en_US[/flash]

Come chop my IQ, I dont care because hee no dey empty.

Aigbofa:
It is working just fine in India with almost 2000 ethnic groups. I think the problem with Nigeria is one of structure and pseudo democracy we practice.

***Sighs*** How did you come to that conclusion?

Some Indians point to Nigeria to prove that Democracy can work in a multicultural environment since, according to them, It aint working in their country. lol

bittyend:
My bad, Diezani studied Archy

Architecture of petroleum resources!

Nigeria, we hail thee!!

And we've Okonjo Iweala a la Mrs World Bank who can't defend why fuel subsidy should removed - the clueless pig repeated maternal mortality like gazillion times on CNN - and that's the same woman running our economy smh. Maternal mortality, yet the population of the country is growing at an alarming rate.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-730835.0.html

Education: Howard, B. Arch, 1983-1992 ( 10 yrs to study Archy).

Talk about a round peg in a square hole or is it the other way round.

PhysicsQED:
In the case of GEJ, he has actually hired quite a few competent people already. His real problems are corruption and the deteriorating security situation in the country. Both of these things are problems that he is too meek and timid to tackle effectively. But in terms of economic and social development, I would put more trust in any educated civilian than these military guys.

Very obvious you have never lived in Nigeria. If appointing people to cabinet level positions is how we want to judge our leaders, even  Abacha did better in that aspect than Odechuckwu. How anyone could defend the appointment of people like  Mrs. Diezani Alison-Madueke ( someone who spent 6 yrs in a 4 yr Archy program at Howard)  to Petroleum is beyond me.

PhysicsQED:
Take a look at Buhari's cabinet, for example. In addition to having a bunch of military guys - soldiers rather than technocrats - holding sensitive developmental positions in his cabinet, he also put some square pegs in round holes: a veterinarian as minister of agriculture and a virologist as minister of energy. What was he thinking?

Whats wrong here? people do it ll the time, even in advanced countries. These are administrative positions  that need absolutely no technical input from their head. The President of the World bank has no background in money. Does that mean the POTUS is incompetent for nominating  someone with no monetary background to such a sensitive post?

PhysicsQED:
That's a pretty good reason to opt for democracy. Look at the era of military rule in Nigeria. More than 2 decades of national development lost.

Too simplistic a conclusion to come to IMO. A democratic Nigeria spanning the era of Military rule your are referring to would not have fared any better. The problem isnt the system per se. The problem is with us as a people. Our psyche is messed up.

That said, coming to a conclusion as the one above is , for lack of a better word, stupiddd really.  How valid and reliable is the conclusion you reacted to? By validity, I mean how reproducible is the research itself and with respect to reliability I want to know how applicable it is to the broader society from which they picked their focus group and  to other cultures/democracies?

We need to ask questions before jumping to conclusions like some have done here ( *Wink* Kilode?). Democracy isnt that bad if only we allow it work, but in Nigeria where every election is rigged on a massive scale, how do you even begin to asses its efficacy.

I am still a big believer in the power of the Average; that is, the average of the over 150 million of us is way better and would result in a better outcome than the result of decisions made by the super-duper intelligent few.

See I don't like Gadaffi either. I don't think the guy was exceptionally competent. What exactly did he do that anybody who is paramount ruler of an underpopulated but extremely oil-rich country couldn't do?

Gadaffi is just an ordinary guy. . . no remarkable talent or ability, imo.

You want a guy who can make something out of nothing, someone who adds a ton of value.

See unbridled arrogance? How did you come to this conclusion sir?  Remember :

We're just as undiscerning about the skills of others as about ourselves. "To the extent that you are incompetent, you are a worse judge of incompetence in other people," Dunning said.

bittyend:
@ojogbontomoye

Murtala Muhammed's regime is also a good example of dictatorship that can work - but too bad, he died too soon.

Absolutely.

Sup Ekt-Bear?

why is this news?

Nnenna1:
Years ago I would have laughed at the subject title, but I honestly am beginning to believe that this is true.

Nothing is black and white anyway - whoever says that dictatorship can never work should take a look at Singapore.

What? 90% of dictatorship produce Mobuto Sese seko-esques, according to our NL progressives/intellectuals.  Why mention Singapore, Lee Kuan yew, Jerry Rawlings, Muhammad Buhari when you can easily point fingers at Mobutu Sese seko et al?

The problem with strongman is that 90% of the time you get a Mobuto Sese Seko or the equivalent rather than a Lee Kuan Yew

Of course. Our intellectuals, always using the most extreme, scariest examples to support their moot point.  I am surprised Mr. Intellectual didnt mention Hitler or Idi-Amin?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=887083.msg10337494#msg10337494 date=1330995424]The democratic process relies on the assumption that citizens (the majority of them, at least) can recognize the best political candidate, or best policy idea, when they see it. But a growing body of research has revealed an unfortunate aspect of the human psyche that would seem to disprove this notion, and imply instead that democratic elections produce mediocre leadership and policies.[/quote]Reminds me of a famous disaporan here on NL who supported ACN so passionately during the election cycle but is now regretting his intelligent decision.

The research, led by David Dunning, a psychologist at Cornell University, shows that incompetent people are inherently unable to judge the competence of other people, or the quality of those people's ideas. For example, if people lack expertise on tax reform, it is very difficult for them to identify the candidates who are actual experts. They simply lack the mental tools needed to make meaningful judgments.

Reminds me of another intelligent disporan here on Nl who was so certain of Amosuns/ACNs ideas that he made it his job to campaign for them here on NL.

As a result, no amount of information or facts about political candidates can override the inherent inability of many voters to accurately evaluate them. On top of that, "very smart ideas are going to be hard for people to adopt, because most people don’t have the sophistication to recognize how good an idea is," Dunning told Life's Little Mysteries.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

He and colleague Justin Kruger, formerly of Cornell and now of New York University, have demonstrated again and again that people are self-delusional when it comes to their own intellectual skills.

Really? EKt Bear, what say you to this?

Over sabi sabi disaporans. lol

These article reminds of some famous intelligent disporans who somehow know what is best for us locals. ***wink*** ****wink**** ****wink****

ROTFL.

This thread has huge potential.

Explains why some people see nothing wrong with Tinubu as their leader/leader of ACN. .  .  Sup EKt bear? Smartest NLer. so smart he even posted a research article that clearly does not favor his reputation.

Sup Beaf?

Katsumoto:
Many posters have complained about the quality of topics that get put on the front page.

Tonight, I have to agree with them. What is the point of putting the Ojukwu vs Abiola popularity thread on the front page if not to stoke ethnic tensions and profit from the ensuing battle?

It appears that there are intentions to profit from the constant tribal battles on Nairaland. I have to say this is rather shameful and pathetic.

Start your own forum if you don't like how NL is administered. Rumour has it that you are a code-writer yourself, true? So code oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon, Mr. Catalan-Born-London-Residing-Confused-Egba

I heard 90% are Ebos. very lazy bunch.

lol at ugwu and Yogurt.

you might as well drink sobo.

^^^

Leave her alone okay. Chillax

^^^

So you are an Engineer?

I am glad you asked. Well, I am older than most folks here. I did my HSC and left Nigeria for Europe, but life happened shortly after I landed in Europe. I had a difficult time in Europe so I couldnt enroll in a university as planned. I came back to Nigeria a few years back, and I am into business; selling cars mostly. I always wanted to study Engineering, but there is no point crying over spilt milk at this point.

That said, I am sorry if I seemed too forward. i didn't mean to pry into your life like that, just that I find you interesting and very personable.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=884408.msg10336047#msg10336047 date=1330974710]^^i'm also new here like you, and you've won my heart because you gave me some attention.

nw, what about you- which school are you currently in, what's your major, how old are you, etc.

sweetie.[/quote]I am glad you asked. Well, I am older than most folks here. I did my HSC and left Nigeria for Europe, but life happens and I had a difficult time in Europe so i couldnt enroll in a university. I came back to Nigeria a few years back, and I am into business; selling cars mostly. I always wanted to Engineering, but there is no point crying over spilt milk at this point.

That said, I am sorry if I seemed too forward. i didn't mean to pry into your life like that, just that I find you interesting and very personable.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=884408.msg10335920#msg10335920 date=1330973573]^you too dey ask question, lol.


sounds like multiple monikers imo. Jekyll and Hyde stuff.


no, i didnt know dayokanu on campus. He has mouth but that doesnt mean his face replaced the one on the main gate, for everybody to know him.


anyway, o [he] kere si mi.

yes, i studied enginnering, i wish.

someone will fill you in, i'm sure.

no need me broadcasting what's already public knowledge.[/quote]I am new here Tpia. I just registered,, but you ve won my heart with your honest and very matter-of-fact posts. I really appreciate it. I am not into stalking people, Id rather ask you directly.

So what did you study at OAU or did you attend University of Ife?

Thats impressive Tpia. Give yourself some break, there are no average scores my dear. The most important thing is you got to study at the prestigious Oba Awon University. BTW, did you ever see Dayokanu on campus? How was he? And what did you study? Engineering

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=884408.msg10335830#msg10335830 date=1330972876]cant remember my score, think it was about average [ nothing spectacular], and i was admitted at oau.[/quote]Thats impressive Tpia. Give yourself some break. there are no average scores my dear. The most important thing is you got to study at the prestigious Oba Awon University. BTW, did you ever see Dayokanu on campus? How was he? And what did you study BTW? Engineering?

My condolences to the families of the senseless Biafrans/Ebos that would be unjustifiably, or justifiably depending on your POV, killed. May their stubborn soul get to hell before Ojukus.

Epic fail.

I couldnt even understand their Ibo accent and that akpu-heavy pronunciations.

Clowns. Very cheap video. I shame for theses Ibo people ooooooooooooooo

^^^


How did you do in JAMB and which university did you eventually attend?

STupidddd news report. How can Don jazzy produce a song for GOOD music when he really doesn't have any acclaimed single to his name on the local scene. Naija journalist, very very un-creative.

Eko Ile:
Another student of Fashola Inst Of Public Administration. Alahusa, Lagos State receiving lecture.

Odechukwu Abdul-Retardeen Ebelebe Dumbjonathan.

We don't have graduation picture because he failed and he did not graduate. [size=18pt]T[b]oo dumb and re--tarded to learn anything.[/b][/size]

The said the same thing about Thomas Edison.