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MYJIST:
Since it made it a religious act, did that also make him a christian?

You have eyes to read and brain to assimilate but as usual, always defending rather than condemning

sonofElElyon:
Only a mad man would support such an attack and also only a mad man would support attacks by Isis and similar groups. Innocent civilians should never be targeted. We should all learn to speak up when the innocent are being killed and not only when it is our own people. This applies to all of us. The perceived failure to condemn previous attacks may have created lack of empathy with respect to this current attack. This ought not to be so. Statements like yours also doesn't help matters. A wholesale condemnation of a faith and ALL its followers as hypocrites (you said hypocrisy is a christian) is wrong. Hate speech

These are few christians happy about the incidents. The same people that have monopolized heaven while others are going to hell since they didn't believe in jesus.

midnighter:
Lol its a pity that you are already very agitated and its stopping you from being rational. Youre right, I dont need to lie, because Im not lying.

So you have never had a friend who talks without thinking?? You dont have friends with whom you occasionally disagree on certain issues, even though you may like them otherwise? You dont have anyone who you have known since childhood, who suddenly starts expressing untoward views?

So all your friends are from exactly the same ethinic, religious, social and economic background as you. Thats great

i talked about "visiting" because people are often freer with their opinions when theyre at home. not minding that they may be hurting your feelings

You can call whoever names, it doesnt change the fact that islamist terrorists have tarnished the reputation of that religion and its adherents are usually slow to condemn it

Good day

You are lying no visiting friends of yours would openly tell you they support isis, in your attempt to call muslim negative names you tagged yourself a liar and bigot. People would rather say whatever online especially in a platform like Nairaland that physically but it's the other way round to you and ofcourse they are your friends. Lying liar

sonofElElyon:
He targetted muslims yes but it was because he saw them as a threat to the Caucasian way of life in new Zealand. Of course his actions were wrong but he never said he was fighting for Christ or christianity... He was not even a practising christian.. If he was a christian at all, it was just for the purpose of filling the portion of forms requesting for his religion! Read my earlier post and you will see that he was worried about white genocide. He felt non-caucasian emigrants (Muslims in this case) were capable of causing white genocide. In a 74-page manifesto that he posted on social media, Tarrant said he was a white supremacist who was out to avenge attacks in Europe perpetrated by Muslims. He obviously wanted to revenge the attacks by Isis and other similar groups. Obviously he is wrong but make no mistake, he never mentioned religion as a motivation, only white supremacy

He targeted Muslims which makes it a religious act. There are Arab, Asian, African, Caucasian etc muslims in New Zealand. It's not Nigeria where you will most like find only Nigerian Muslims in a local Mosque. Tarrant's rifles contained the names of legendary Serbs and Montenegrins who fought against the 500-year-rule of the Muslim Ottomans in the Balkans, written in the Cyrillic alphabet used by the two Orthodox Christian nations but but but it's not religious according to folks like you

MYJIST:
See eh, everybody has a way of responding to issues, religious influence apart.. But you could read also that christians in that area condemned the attack. So why should MURIC in Nigeria decide to talk about it like christians were in support of it? For the record, i feel pained when people are killed. No reason justifies killing of any individual. And i also know that, God does not need me to fight, talk more of killing anybody for him. God does not need my help for anything at all.

Muric is insance but aren't Nairaland Christians the same? Those over there condemned it but not Senator Anning who used the book of Mathew to justify the killings and definitely not those on Nairaland who are happy about it would never condemn it yet you wanna blame me for facing you all and calling out your hypocrisy, bigotry and hatred.

Omo na liverpool former player want deny liverpool the title. na wa oo

midnighter:
Excuse me, I just checked it. Youre correct

I still disagree with those muric people because christians have come out en masse to condemn it. I hardly hear of people condemning it when the tables are turned

in fact when i visit muslim friends they often voice support for ISIS and terrorism

You don't need to lie to score cheap political points. If i call you guys names now, they will say i hate christians. You have muslims friends that support isis and terrorism and they are your friends whom you visit. Like i said religion has turned you into something else.

sonofElElyon:
He was a white supremacist and was motivated not by religion but by racism and there is no controversy about this. Please don't engage in hate speech.

Author of an anti-immigrant manifesto
Tarrant is the author of a more than 70-page anti-immigrant "manifesto" called "The Great Replacement," which according to The Guardian, consists of a rant about white genocide.
He posted the document on Twitter before the shooting. His Twitter account has since been disabled.
Inspired by far-right terrorist Anders Breivik
Tarrant in his manifesto, according to MSN News, wrote that he has read the writings of Dylann Roof, who shot and killed nine African-Americans in a church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015, " and many others."
But he wrote that he "only really took true inspiration from Knight Justiciar Breivik." Breivik killed 77 in a terrorist attacked in Oslo, Norway.

Is the Mosque he went to kill comprised of only one race?
Are the Muslims in new zealand of one origin?


Tarrant the christian terrorist had traveled to the Balkans in the past three years, where he toured historic sites and apparently studied battles between Christians and the Ottoman empire.


Why did he go to the Mosques? Two different mosques for that matter and he even resisted arrest

MYJIST:
Hate is in your DNA so don't think we're surprised. About bigotry, nobody is saying what the guy did is right. We're just saying, muric saying it's a christian who did dat without proof is wrong. That's a way of inciting hate. Is Christianity the only religion practiced in the world apart from islam? Hell no! You just rushed to type 'bigot' without even thinking. You just want to spill out your hate for Christians no matter what, not minding what is right or wrong.

I asked two simple questions and you can't answer them but your best resort is hate is in my DNA. Your fellow christian who didn't condemn the act and you that can't educate them to condemn such acts are truly those that have love. You guys have proven beyond every doubts that you are happy with the incidents. Some even said it openly and proud of the guy

Od1n:
He should have sent suicide bombers to shout cowardly allahu ahkbar before ending their own pathetic lives? It was God that killed them, not Elijah.

Don't cry man, i know you feel pained that you god is murderous and deserve not one single love as evident from what he did to innocent kids simply because they mocked a bald person. Why couldn't he miraculously grow the hair for him? No, he needed to drink blood cos he is always blood thirsty.

Od1n:
Retarded Muslim terrorists trying to normalise terrorism so it sounds like what everybody does. The Bible does not promise imaginary 72virgins to fools to go end their hopeless lives prematurely.

The bible promised more

Chronicles 15:13

But that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

Luke 19:27

But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.

Deuteronomy 13:13-19

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.

MightySparrow:
HOW did this fellow become a professor? he has not condemned any killings in kaduna or jos or benue because they are not muslims. how many are killed in september 11 attack? how many are homeless,orphaned, displaced, widowed,etc in the hand of muslims?

Is as much as Muric is partial and that's exactly what religion brings to the table. It breeds hate, differences and partiality you shouldn't sensationalize incidents. How dare you try to turn the crisis to Kaduna, Jos and Benue to be an affair that Christians were killed by Muslims? In your attempt to criticize Muric, you dug your own pit like many religious fellows who care only about their faith and followers. You completely removed Zamfara because you know its a predominant Muslim state compared to the aforelisted states which is mixed between the two faiths.

sonofElElyon:
I don't know the narration you are talking about.. The action has been condemned by the whole world. It is clear from your post that you hate Christians. This is most unfortunate.

I don't hate anybody but i hate hypocrisy and bigots. How many people condemned it on this thread? List the Christians that condemned it on this thread or even the original thread that hit the front page?

If my words doesn't hurt you, you wouldn't have said i hate Christians

midnighter:
You are really something.

So because someone doesnt like muslims, he must be a christian? What happened to all the other religious and social groups all over the world?

Perhaps if you have read wide about the incident, you would have known he is a Christian terrorist and this useless defense from you guys wouldn't string up. Its pathetic that you guys cant simply condemn the act, wish the victims heaven and pray God forgives their sins and also extend your sincere condolences to loved ones of the victims but no you would rather talk like foools. Religion has really turned you into something else.

obed2bk:
for Godsake he did not call the name of Jesus when he was doing it he is a white supremacist

You should stop writing like a stupid person. A Christian terrorist went to two different mosques to kill muslims on a Friday during the afternoon prayers yet it's not religious. Why didnt he go the church? Why didnt he go black community? Why didnt he go to the mall, supermarket, cinema etc? Why did he choose the mosque?

obed2bk:
do you know how many Christians were killed in kajuru local government and sanga in kaduna state what has the government Don or even muric Don and you are calling CAN to do something see the killings in newzeland is bad and also the killings in southern kaduna is bad the killings in zamfara is bad lets finish with our problems as a country before we think of others

You guys so love claiming victims in every crisis, Kaduna crisis predates you and I and for every crisis they kil each other but bigots like you will sensationliaze it that they are killing Christians. The same thing happened in benue and you proceed that it's an Islamic agenda by Buhari. I guess since the killings have reduced all the Christians are benue are either dead or converted to muslims and Nigeria is now a Muslim country.

You guys are braindead

MikelIbe:
The Antichrist ( 666) will deny that Christ is the son of God. He will possess a mark on the forehead.... according to the bible. Muric professor and his fillers are antichrists.

The shooter wrote a 74 page book on white supremacy before committing the crime. and not a word about Christ.

Christ never encouraged violence.
Any prophet that encouraged murder is false and in hell fire.

Kings 2: 23-24: “From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking up the path, some small boys came out of the city and harassed him, chanting, ‘Go up, baldy! Go up, baldy!’ He turned around, looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and mauled 42 of the children.”


Thanks for confirming that your God is false and rotting in hell fire

sonofElElyon:
Both are front page stories and the new Zealand killer was referred to as an evil far right mass killer...

The narration would have changed if it was a Yusuf or something. Hypocrisy is a Christian

Same crime, same media but different narratives... One written boldly, the other in small italics, one a maniac the other an angelic boy, one a Muslim and the other a Christian... These are the people that introduced religion to us.

Let that sink.

harambeee Same crime, same media but different narratives... One written
boldly, the other in small italics, one a maniac the other an angelic boy. One his picture is boldy displaced while the others picture had is recent picture in thumbnail but his childhood picture in a bigger display. One a Muslim and the other a Christian... These are the people that introduced religion to us.

Our local gods never did quater of these but they all called evil but the foreign gods are saints.


Let that sink.

empressteemah06:
sup

I'm good ma'am. You?

chipower:
Pls, Ollah don't insult me, i have not insulted you. Don't label me as senseless, it's a very uncharitable way of engaging in an argument. You have not shown me or anyone here how my analysis of the situation is wrong. All you do is repeat your assertion. Insulting your opponent doesn't prove your point. Instead of insulting me why can't you just show me how my argument is senseless. I believe you are insulting me because you can't counter my argument /analysis.

The point here is not whether the terrorist is a Christian or Muslim or atheist but the motives behind his actions, wether he did it because of religious reasons. He has given his reasons which is contrary to what you are saying. Until he says otherwise, there no evidence / proof on which you can base your assertions.

I'm not defending the guys actions. I have not done so, so far. Where did you get that from?
Please, im not into insults. If you want us to continue, pls interact with the points i have made so far.

I didn't insult you but said your defence was senseless, apologies if you took it as an insult but my point still stand that it's a religious attack. He traveled to the Balkans in the past three years, where he toured historic sites and studied battles between Christians and the ottoman empire.

His rifles contained names of legendary Serbs and Montenegrins who fought against the 500 year rule of the Muslim ottoman in the Balkans written in the cyrillic alphabet used by the two orthodox Christian nations but it's not a religious attack to you.

Very senseless defence, a Christian terrorist killed Muslims in the mosques but it's not religious since the terrorist involved is a Christian. Anybody who defends this kinda of monster isnt only a bigot but also a potential terrorist and most nairaland Christians who graced this thread have exhibited that acts. It's a shame !!

RuuDie:
I agree with you.

On the balance of play, City were far better than Swansea and thoroughly deserved to win... it is sad that the 'faulty' decisions and moments of the game will take the shine out of the effort the lads put in.

You shouldn't blame the ref entirely because VAR wasnt used in the game. Swansea not been an EPL team caused the inability of VAR to be available

chipower:
The person who committed the crime has said why he did it. Are you trying to put words into his mouth. He targeted muslims because he believes Muslims are the ones doing this kind of thing to his people, (whites). Secondly, he targeted Muslims because most Muslims are not white. The guy is just a white supremacist. All white supremacist are racists. Sometime ago, a white supremacist went to a black church and committed mass murder. He was a christian too.

He never gave any religious reasons for his actions. You have not been able to prove that he did it because of religious reasons. That he is a Christian doesn't prove the point that you're trying to make. Many Muslims have killed Christians because of non religious reasons too. This case is unlike cases involving Muslims fundamentalist groups who kill people because of religious beliefs. They call on the koran, hadeet and Shira whenever they want to commit atrocities. They make their reasons known. What you are trying to imply here is simply not true. I'm very sad with respect to what happened. Please, don't call me a bigot. I don't think I'm one. I have seen the video. The video tells nothing about his motives.

Why did he go to mosques alone? Why didnt he go the mall? Why ddint he go the supermarket? Why didnt he go the black community? Why didnt he go to the cinema? Why did he choose to go to the muslim community and the mosques in particular?

Nadheer15:
I knew you people loved the attack and are proud, but no matter what you people do, we would continue to worship Allaah. The senator released a statement after the attack, here's an article detailing what he said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6812419/Outrage-Australian-politician-blames-immigration-Christchurch-mosque-shooting.html

I'll create a thread hopefully showing from their manifesto how they're for Christians.

The comment section was disabled on the link.

WORDWORLD:
YES OF COURSE THEY ARE TO BLAME!



Kindly increase your knowledge with this link below.


INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM: Image and Reality by Noam Chomsky.

Click below to read the above.

https://chomsky.info/199112__02/

Ollah2, Nadheer15 this may interest you to read too.

I'm gonna check it out. Thanks!!

Kundagarten:
Is it the same journalist that authored both articles? How about the newspaper editor, is it same person? Or even the graphics people and those charged with the print layout.

anything to defend your fellow Christian terrorists

Same crime, same media but different narratives... One written boldly, the other in small italics, one a maniac the other an angelic boy, one his recent picture boldly displayed while the other had a thumbnail of his picture but a childhood picture in a bigger display. One a Muslim and the other a Christian... These are the people that introduced religion to us.

Let that sink

chipower:
A white supremacist can identify himself as a Christian, yes i agree. The difference is that he didn't murder these people because of his religious beliefs unlike Muslim fundamentalist who do much worse because of their religious beliefs. He gave the reason why he did it. He was taking revenge. Whether the revange is unreasonable or not is another thing. As far as I'm concerned, the excuses he gave for his actions was very unreasonable.

He played a racist song while driving, went to a drive way to park his car. Went to the trunk of his car removed a semi automatic gun, proceeded to a mosque and shot them at sight, moved further to kill them on the ground to further ensure he truly killed them. He kept reloading until he killed them all.

He went back to his car while his trunk was still opened, took another gun proceeded to shoot those within the mosque environs, he shot children and women. He shot a particular lady who was screaming help help but he went there to finish his gods work. Went to his car, closed the trunk and drove away. Continued listening to the racist song and was heading to another mosque to continue killing until he was apprehended. He resisted arrest but the two policemen outpowered him. He had other dangerous weapons in his car which includes explosives but our fellow Nigerian Christians says it's not religious. He didnt go the mall, supermarket, cinema or whatever but TWO MOSQUES yet it's not religious. Welcome to he world of Christian hypocrites and bigots. His excuse is also justified and reasonable according to some of them and the innocent muslims deserve to die. These are the people that claim to be tolerant and heaven bound since only Christian will make heaven according to them.



I hail una

StillX10:
Taraba is for Christ. It is not for the demonic party and their religion

Na wa ooo