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shadrach77:Intelligent Mugu? Are you serious, that's the most ludicrous title ever seen No seriously, are you serious? or are you just joking here? |
First of all i think the title of a movie should reflect amply on what the movies is about, and should be deliberately misleading as to render it watcher thinking something else judging from the title only to discover that the flick is about another thing else entirely and at the same time the title should have a connection with the movie. for example take a movie like 'Death Sentence' we all know death sentence is a punishment of death, received in a court of law due to some grave or heinous offense but that movie starring Kevin Bacon wasn't about any court sentencing anyone to death as some may presume judging from the title, but instead, it was about an easy going, dutiful family man whose life just turned worst after the death of his son. So everyone, please post your Nolly-wood Nigerian movie titles you here, only the ones you consider to be ridiculous and explain why? These are some I can remember: 1. Innocent Criminal How can a criminal be innocent, a person is refered to as a criminal only if indicted of a crime unless vindicated. So why shouldn't the movie be titled: The Vindicate or Vindicated 2. Private Sin Are sins categorized onto private and public sins? 3. I[b]Indecent Desire[/b] How can a desire be indecent, the nature of ones desire can range from lust for power, sexual perversion, greed, etc desires relates to wide spectrum of human emotions, who has the right to say some are indecent while some aren't. 3. Critical Decision Some decisions could be very critical to make, I haven't watch the movie but i am very sure the title would have nothing to do with what the movie is all about because it is a characteristic of Nolly-wood movies. |
dgb4:If there are no challengers to push you that extra mile, you won't bring the best out of you, you will remain stagnant and think you are better. I am not a producer but I can produce a far more better movie if given the funds, a film that has originality and uniqueness, a paradigm for all Nigeria movies and as for directing, I believe i can direct more than you at least because i don't think you are in the production line. Besides I am working on something yet to be revealed one day. Like i said before, good quality works requires time. And as for job, have you got one for yourself? |
obinna5000:Obinna, good points you have there Mobinga:Mobinga, pump your breaks, Re-read my first post - I said one of my sister who then, for her first time saw me playing God of War I almost thought it was movie playing on the TV, My point is, I was trying to explain that someone with an un-trained eyes like that my sister was just raving and excited when she first saw Kajola trailer on TV promising herself she was going to watch it because I probably thought she was curious as to what the story was all about. dgb4:No one is being tribalistic, get that dgb4, I'm just analyzing, It has a lot to do with NGWADAC, who mostly constitutes the cast and crew of the movie, most so called Nigerian movies (so believed English movies) star majority of easterners. Some people in Nigeria would agree with me that if you pick a any Nigeria movies (excluding Yoruba and Hausa movies), fast-forward it to the end, observe the end credit scrolls, You count many actors, actress, crews, Gfx guys, in-fact at time everyone involve are mostly easterners and some mix of south south. But check any Yoruba film, you see everyone involved from Camera-men to Griper, etc, everyone are mostly involved. You see where the discrimination is, Yet other Yorubas, Hausa, every tribe buys these so called English movies, aren't we all English speaking, why does it have to be only them handling movies, they took on themselves, i have discussed this observation with friend, and they don't believe until they see for themselves, anybody in Nairaland should go pick one at random and compare it any Yoruba movie, you will realize that - as the end credit is playing - You can tell by the name of the English movie cast that "oh, these are Igbos casts and film-makers (easterners)" as their names will indicate, now again watch the end credit of a Yoruba movie and you will observe that it includes Many Yoruba with Islamic names, English names, native names, Hausas with their easily recognizable names, South-south names too and Igbos too, everyone is involved. I am not inciting anything bad, i am just pointing out from a very well thought analysis - which some might consider discriminating or as some people prefer to label it - Tribalistic. dbg4:What you just wrote has no point, How can one appreciate something inferior provided you're aware better ones exist out there all even if it's a DIY. Tell me, would you continue to appreciate a self-made calculator you made for your self-amusement if you see a Ghanian or Japanese kid doing a far more better one, and later you realized by all standard yours was a crude, old-fashion type. I think it's people like you who like arguing that there's nothing wrong with our old-edition, outdated Physics, Chemistry, et al text books recommended by tutors and available in libraries of most of our secondary schools, universities and other academic institutions, if not all. dbg4:I think you fail to understand some of my points when responding to the comment on a separate Kajola thread on this same NairaLand, In my analysis, I said something about Nollywood, skipped so many hurdles and landed on Sci-Fi GBAAAM!!!, one can only come out bad if done that way. Stupid Naija action flicks, their glaring too-maccabre horrors, clichéd love dramas, etc, and one disease afflicting all Nigeria movies both English(easterner-dominated),Yorubas and Igbo film is unrealistic plots and they are always predictable, you know what's going to happen next, how it's going to end, clichéd(over-used themes). "To God be the Glory" movies They'd probably tell me "So far d tin dey sells, wetin be ur own, o boy go keep quiet somewhere" |
novaman:Hey novaman, Despite what you choose to call 'The Revolution' in Abuja, despite sponsoring every CGI/FX Nigerians to various institutions abroad, despite George Lucas of Industrial Light and Magic himself tutoring you all one on one, despite anything else, what you still don't realize is that - until some hungry Nigerian film-makers are expunged from the industry, they will forever continue not to understand why CGI is needed in some Nigerian movies, it significant and several usefulness, you know why? They prefer to spend money on those type of movies we've all known them to churn out and since they realize easy returns from such venture they see no reason to pay for standard, quality, top-notch CGI or any related 3D stuff, moreover with their wack, over-used, repeatedly-done, predictable story-lines CGI/SFX, 3D Animation are cosmetics they see no reason to afford. |
akigbemaru:Hey akigbemaru, akigbemaru:How have you qualified it, to be a good trailer? akigbemaru:How is it one of a kind? care to explain? can you compare Kajola trailer to the official Pandorum or RE:Afterlife trailers. akigbemaru:No one is hating here, riversman was commenting by stating his opinion. akigbemaru:If you are a sadist who wish who ever is riversmad dead, then be enlighten that Naira Land is not sadist portal/forum. akigbemaru:Tribalism has nothing to do with producing quality stuff akigbemaru:Akigbemaru, I don't know if you are older than me, but ever since i was around 12, and up till now I have always been fascinated with Roman and mostly Greek mythologies which with time has driven me to learn more about ours, especially the Yorubas due to some similarities shared. And note, I am not a subscriber of euhemerism (most Nigerian scholars who aren't so deep prefer to euhemerize our deities). I can therefore say, I'm eruditely vast with Yoruba mythologies and their deities, though to some extent, And as to why some Caribbeans and south-Americans (not all) have keen interest, involved and how they are connected to it, I don't think riversman hates that fact. You are the one who felt offended because you thought he was attacking the belief system of the then traditional Yorubas. And lastly, like i said before - the reason behind why it's titled 'KAJOLA' is simply because these NGWADAC Igbo film-makers thought they could appeal to Yoruba film buyers and renters (Yoruba audiences in general) which i regard to be an exploit because they don't have the right to do that, Which Yoruba film maker would make a movie starring mixed cast but mostly Yorubas and give it a Igbo title. That would be totally absurd. |
riversman:Hey riversman, I am a stern critic who's also into CGI and Animation but still choose to remain beneath the radar for now and as to why the name have to be KAJOLA, it's just the usual Igbo film-makers under the guise of ADONIS trying to appeal to all Nigerians, mostly Yoruba-film buyers and audience which I consider somehow exploitative. I shall sometimes start a thread to prove how all these so called Nollywood movies are so tribalistic, discriminatory and self-centered and with their ridiculous titles are quacks. I will let you know when i start it. |
pritypeety:Hey pritypeety, if I'd read your post on this thread before, i wouldn't have started this because i think we share certain points. |
Richtronix:Im quite sure that if the Director/Producer was some non-entity white man you jokers would be on here salivating and trampling on each other to get tickets. Lets support our own, they will eventually come good. White man would never make such crap as 'KAJOLA' and please don't bring racism to this, is Spike Lee a white man. Lets support our own, they will eventually come good. When are they going to come out good. Is it in another 32 years? Dude, India never took that long to measure up. |
Mr. Cartha:Don't mind them Mr. Cartha, they are only trying to copy the likes of Escape from L.A., The Book of Eli, Cloverfield, The Day after Tomorrow, 2012, and several apocalyptic American Sci-Fi movies. Well like they say, Imitation is cheap form of flattery/compliment. |
whiteroses:No one is bad belle, you are the one whose not balanced. You misconstrue America's attempts to explore the outer space if possible the universe, that's what Cosmology is all about, and probably because you are one of those hard knock Nigerian who believe Christian theology is the only existing 'Truth' in the world hence you misunderstood NASA's endeavor to understand and study the universe as them traveling to heavens. Heaven and Hell is a concept belonging to the Christian faith. I can't really say the concept of heaven is similar to the concept of Nirvana in other religions, but there exists some similarities between the Christian's Heaven and the Muslim's Al-Jana (Place of Paradise after death) if i am not mistaken. |
Cogito:People, mostly young Nigerian girls aren't tired of it, and Nollywood keep reproducing it because they realize money from what appeals to their watchers/buyers. Have you forgotten how it all shifted from the likes of Thorns of Rose starring the very young Omotola Jalade Ekeinde to Liz Bensons's Stroke of Faith if I am right. When these Nollywoods sees that "Nna this type no dey move again" because they lack originality and are only there for cash they waited until someone emerge with a new concept which was Even Ezra's Sango, then they started producing the likes of Igodo, Igala, etc exploiting the epic genres, bastardizing their eastern cultures, distorting it, macabre-ing, demonizing it for so long, until when they realise that "Uche, these ones no dey sell again o" then they started all sort of action-crap,etc and now i wouldn't be surprised to see every movie producers in Nigeria coming up with ludicours Sci-Fi stuff, Cogito if that's what you meant by /let this film challenge Nollywood producers to improve their production values./ I would laugh so much to see a Naija movie where aliens start invading Lagos. Who have watched 'Mars Attack'? |
obinna5000:Hey Obinna5000, No matter what, a million plug-ins won't do the trick. I am not pessimistic but my point is Nigeria leaped from nothing to 3D, Nigeria isn't just ripe for 3D, They aren't grounded on 2D and if you think otherwise point my direction towards a if not standard, a fair 2D animation someone has done in this country, (Is it the Lagbaja 'Kilawa she' animation, very crude). What I meant by Nigeria isn't ripe is; Industry standard 3D/CGI stuffs entails a lot more than just plug-ins for Maya, LightWave3D, 3DStudioMax, Cinema4D, Poser, Bryce3D, SoftImage, etc. Nigeria's case is like a 'trajectory skip over'. They never actually invested on prosthetics hence their make-ups is still imperfect, immature special effects eg (very unreal accident scenes, etc), and so many other things we see in their massive releases, they just landed on 3D, GBAM!! and think that's the way its done, even as very young as i am i could still remember Hubert Ogunde used smooth 2D animations in some of his Yoruba movies back then and gave good impression. I hope you get my point Obinnna5000. One day just try counting during the end-credit of an American movie, apart from actors and producers, how many people are involved in a particular movie, say the 2010 remake of Clash of the Titans. and not to mention the annoying and preposterous sound effects in 99% of Nigeria movies. (Banger sound used as sound effect for gunshot) |
tomelistic (f):Hey tomelistic You have a point which i have since observed. Countries that are into movies are well known for a particular type (motif) if you know what i mean, take for example, just like you stated, Indian with their Love, Romantic-Musical movies, South Americans with their long episodic love dramas, British with their sometimes boring but didactic movies, France (Canal+, Europa,etc) with their very original and genuine, adrenaline-rush americanesque actions (B-13 1&2,Doberman,etc) Asians(Japan/china) with their oriental-historical setting epics and sometimes gore horror, Italian with their romantic war (Malina,etc), but these and other countries that aren't mentioned are understandably known for a style of movie peculiar to their society and most importantly what really appeal to many of their audiences. These aforementioned nations in which Nigeria hasn't made 1/10th of what they have done would never try to imitate Hollywood instead will harness what is unique in their society and present it beautifully to the whole world and would warmly welcome criticism in order for them to improve. It is only a seedy country like Nigeria whose daft-inhabiting movie producers, directors, etc would see nothing wrong shallowly assuming a self-given title as Nollywood thereby cheaply identifying themselves with Hollywood. Times without number have i explained to friends who care to listen that Hollywood is a big district in California, a state in America where there exists lots of big time studios hence in time became a gigantic industry reputable for great motion pictures. But our apish NGWADAC in Nigeria woke up one day and thought it's a wonderfull idea to remove the H in Hollywood which, to me, i call Hardwork and replace with N which denotes Nigera and came up with the most silliest self-entitlement - ladies and gents behold the great 'NOLLYWOOD', what an effrontery!. India dubbed their movie industry 'Bollywood' because it evident that those chaps are truly trying and to me, their effort so far, has earned them the right to adopt the suffix 'Wood' but i think these Naija mimickers never knew all these facts, no wonder their Nollywood is just one company in Surulere run by some dudes with a GSM phone number and an address. There ain't suppose to be Nollywood in the first place and only fools watch their em, em, someone please remind me what do they call their films o, i am trying to remember, oh!, yeah! okay i remember, Home Made / Local movies. |
Hey sorry, Obina5000, that respond was meant for jessefly on Re: Kajola: Nollywood Science Fiction To Be Released Soon |
Hey everyone, had it been I'd saw and thoroughly read the following post Kajola: Nollywood Science Fiction To Be Released Soon (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-412500.0.html) I wouldn't have started this one, because i agree with some commentators and disagrees with some. Any way, I don't know how to first of all quote everyone i'd wish to respond to over there, so please excuse my doing it this way. obinna5000:Hey jessefly, what do you mean Nigeria is so forward or do you meant backward and even if they'd venture into high-speed chase movies(Transporter1,2&3, Fast&Furious1,2&3), gunfight-loaded movies(Smokin Aces 2: Assassin's Ball) Stunt-laden movies (Ninja Assassin, B-13 1&2) i still think they'll flop, because these stuffs requires proper and detailed planning which takes time. Do you have any idea how much was paid to the Martial Art expert who choreographed some of the fight scenes in Matrix and that it took 8 months alone to train the actors whose acting involved martial art before shooting even began - that and several others are part of what is termed 'Pre-Production'. I'm not sure but i guess even the choreographer was hired from Asia and i reckon he was assigned a translator who i am sure is to be paid too. My point is Nigeria movie-makers aren't ready and willing to spend the way those who made-up Hollywood does, asides from that, the Nigeria government ain't helping at all so how would you expect Nigeria to come up with something like 'From Kill-Bill' or even 1995's 'Desperado', oh! sorry, Quentin Tarantino's Kill-Bill might be too killing for them to pull off, Okay let me say, em, John Woo's Hard-Boil. Lastly, Nigeria movie makers don't conduct enough, core research, in-fact they are better of with producing movies like 'Ije - The Journey'. |
vescucci:Do you mean it has already been discussed somewhere on NairaLand? |
My younger-most sister yells "Oh! I dislike that movie Sherlock Holmes, I don't understand it a bit" and I'm like 'WTF' because, apart from one or two obscure plot brilliantly sewn into the movie which i deem too technical for her age, Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes is a straight A that deserves two thumbs up, but then again given her recent predilection to femme-fatale, easily-read novels, I reckon she's probably new to Sherlock Holmes and probably haven't come across Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island, Inspector Gadget cartoon, Agatha Christie short mystery stories, Sue Grafton detective novels, now talk-less of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's world of Sherlock Holmes. So how the hell is she going to properly understand the movie. Hey guys, for those of you who've watched it, what do you think about the movie, because I love it so much I wished it never ended and thank goodness the Part 2 is already in production as i type this. |
Hey guys, share your comment on this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-493091.0.html#msg6530826 |
I'm tired of all these bullshit Naija movies, I mean when are they going to start doing something worthwhile. Despite all the whole buzz about foreign directors throwing seminars and workshop to tutor and train some of our so called reputable directors who I'd rather refer to as NGWADAC (Nigeria Group of Wack A$$ Directors and Cinematographers), pun intended, blah! blah! blah! So far, is movies like Kajola and the likes the best they could come up with. I'm very certain movies are not made to suit FX nor are movies made to suit a particular setting even if it's purely science-fiction. My point is I think it's ridiculous and time-wasting to make a movie by exploiting an already established genre (Sci-Fi) whose concept is absolutely incongruous and unfitting to a society like Nigeria but voilà it has been done, all in the name of 'Never-Been-Done-Before'. Judging from the incessant and boring airing of the official 'Kajola' trailer on Silver Bird TV, all I saw was very cheap FX/CGI show-off and with no inkling of what the movie is all about i don't think am eager to go see it. One of my sisters who once couldn't differentiate between 'God of War I' a 3D game on a PS2 and a normal western film is now through raving about 'Kajola', i'm not just given to it concept, i mean how could some originality-lacking bunch of less-thinking Nigerians produce a futuristic sci-fi film based on an society where in reality a commoner from that society, may have difficulty grasping it. For example, say someone from Ajegunle or some parts of Ikotun, Ikorodu, etc. My point is the concepts behind sci-fi genres are beyond the comprehensiveness of some Nigerians. When Matrix came out, friends tells me 'Matrix is a complex movie' an action sci-fi blockbuster i consider elementary if compared to the likes of Event Horizon or Lions for Lambs, though Matrix can be too technical only if one submit to it ideology. Hitherto, these NGWADAC and their minions of hungry FX/CGI guys still can't even pull-off an almost convincing chroma-key effect closer to Slyvester Stallone futuristic HoverBike scenes in Judge Dredd specifically the scene he had Rob Schneider on his back escaping from a pursuit or something like that. These Nigerian CGI/SFX inepts are so starved they didn't even realise their mistake (handler's hand was too static, no recoil effect, the gun's muzzle was too static too) when they finally achieved a daft bullet trace fx probably after watching VideoCoPilot's 'The Bullet' tutorial, hence Kajola's is their best shot. Friends do blast me oftentimes telling me i criticize Naija stuff a lot and that I tend to praise American's, and i blast'em back saying "i don't know how to appreciate wack stuff" and besides American movie-makers welcome criticism a lot and that's why they improve day by day and that is also why they will always be no.1 internationally not only in movies, but also in both 2D & 3D Animations, cartoons, CGI, SFX, MoCap, MoTrack, Music, Designers, Cosmetics, Foods, Musical Video, Automobiles, Magazines, Comics, Science and Tech, Computer, Millitary, Gadgets, Robotics, etc you name it, infact other countries who try to convert their innovations and ideas to products run the risk of flopping if America does not have a hand in it, They're the King of Packaging, for example, take a critical look at Sony, a Japanese company who wouldn't have gone this far globally today if not for American involvement despite all their niche market and proprietary technology. In another words if America doesn't stamp your stuff, It ain't selling. Hey guys, I am not bias, everbody is entitled to his/her opinion, i am just expressing mine here, because when some famished hungry movie-makers in Nigeria feels that someone who expresses his/her opinion publicly can be threatening to their business/livelihood they begin to hate you and would love to hurt you or do far more worst just to silence you, you know why? because they are only in the industry just for the money and not the passion. Thank God for NairaLand sha!. |
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