Chibest2000: The fact that there are/will be fake prophets does not mean that any prophet that surfaces the earth is a fake prophet, and from the way you sounded I can unequivocally tell that your judgements here are based on mere illusions because you've got nothing to justify your claims, do you?
Ask the Holy Spirit. He alone knows who is who and the ones He makes it known to. You could be one of these.
costandi: In Matt. 23 which you referenced, Jesus was referring to scribes, and pharisees who he described as hypocrites. Why? Scribes of which pharisees are a sect in ancient Israel were learned men whose business was to study the Law, transcribe it, and write commentaries on it. They were sometimes hired on occasions when the need for a written document arose or when an interpretation of a legal point was needed. These people were often on the offensive towards the ministry of Jesus, always criticizing his actions, trying to make him fall a victim of the law. These were neither anointed men nor prophets (or those you may call acclaimed prophets). Jesus made those statements mostly in defence of allegations made against him. Hence, speaking against their actions and not against them. He never pointed accusing fingers. He only returned accusing fingers.
You sounded more like a scribe whose sole purpose is to concoct and fabricate falsehood for the purpose of indicting another when you said the Prophet adopted the name Joshua in order to impersonate Christ. Whilst forgetting that someone else bore the name Joshua even before Christ and you didn't accuse the person of impersonation.
Perhaps, you love preaching against false prophets, do it the right way.
Thank you.
False prophets and false teachers (scribes etc) are all antichrist. The same spirit work in them only from different platforms against the Spirit of Christ!
abiolert: Hmmm ok am so sorry for my outburst anyway just thought you were this young folk here on nairaland, never new you were this matured. Well am sorry if i said anything to annoy u, i still believe that on the last day then we will truly know who that true christain is. Shalom.
costandi: You've listened to his teachings and came here to make a false claim that he has never accepted being born again. Its therefore obvious that you have purposely decided to deceive people on this froum for reasons best known to you.
Anyway, I sure you don't have biblical evidence for your assertions. One thing I've found out about Christians in Nigeria today is that anything aside their roots - Like the church to which they were born or their present churches, they tend to rebuff. The truth is that I haven't seen any truth based on the 'word' you have put out so far.
Now, the ministry to which we've been called into as believers is - The minisrty of reconciliation not the Ministry of Hunting down false prophets. You don't free people from the shackles of false prophets by writing negatively about them but by preaching the good news which you believe. Preach your own good news and not preach against others.
Stay blessed too.
There are problems in the Church. There is confusion. Biblical Christianity is mostly not what we see. There are tares and the wheat that are too difficult to differentiate until 'the end'.
I am not hunting down False Prophets. No! Jesus didn't ask me or anybody to do that. But when occasion warrants it we ought to speak for people's information to decide or act upon. I did not start the discussion.
Jesus preached the good news. because of the good news he exposed the bad news and the sponsors, but did not focus on them. When occassion arose he often did this in strong terms e.g. Matthew chapter 23.
Raymondenyi: . Ok! Good one!!! So what makes u think ; onyedepo, Adeboye, ibiyeomiye; TD Jakes and all others are not antichrist as well Why re u singling out 1 man? Just my soliloquy... rhetoric question; for u to ponder
It is because the current discussion is not about the ones u mentioned but TBJ. Thanks!
abiolert: Who are u to jugde , Saint Holy. by the way ,why must u quote me? Sinner like you with your holier than Us attitude.
No, I dont judge. God is judge.
What Jesus meant was that we should not criticise people UNJUSTLY! He wasn't talking about exposing errors against biblical doctrine and standards.
As for being 'Saint Holy', the truth is I am indeed a saint. Every child of God is. It doesn't mean we are perfect. It only means we are set apart by God as His holy people because of Jesus. I was a sinner until more than 32 years ago when I became a saint because I gave my life to Christ. It doesn't mean I am no longer incapable of sinning. It only means that because the Holy Spirit now lives in me, I am able to live gradually more and more like Jesus. As I allow His Spirit I am able to overcome sin. Sin then becomes an exception in my life rather than the rule! When I however now sin I go to him for forgiveness.
Adam made me a sinner. The Last Adam, Jesus Christ, made me a saint. Both are essentially statuses conferred on us, but not after death as some do.
I understand your anger. But please I mean no harm.
Pity! Too many women fall into the hands of immature and beastly men. The women see the signs yet stay until, sometimes they lose their lives!
My advice to women: Please, it may do you good just to leave apart, may be for a while to save your life. I know that's not an easy decision. Have a job and be secured in Christ. He alone can truly help you.
costandi: One thing is certain, you have not listened to this man of God. And, you're just making naive assumptions from afar. TB Joshua is born again. If your reason for assuming he isn't born again is because you haven't heard him say so then watch this video.
I have watched and listened to him not once or twice. The Spirit of God in me and the Bible I know both make clear where he's coming from, where he is going and taking the people - away from Jesus Christ, the Saviour of all men.
Raymondenyi: . U all were not half as critical as I was to this man TBJ ; I tell u, I saw him as Satan walking on earth ; until something moved me sometime and I just casually started watching Emmanuel TV, after hearing some testimoney from a distant friend... My brother, My mentality changed!!! That might is one of the Very fewest Men Of God that really practices what the bible preaches!!! "No Man That is not of God can Do what he does"... I'm 200% sure; U all criticising him are only doing do from hearsay; take ur time, look through him, look into his works, make some finding for yourself... I'll tell u, ur ideas will change..... He is truly a prophet... u can choose to continue in ur blind castigations or do some fact findings... it's all left to you.
BTW ; I don't attend his church, neither am I a member...
You've hit the nail on the head: the power of deception! It will get stronger and stronger with time. More and more in thousands and millions will fall by what the Bible calls 'lying wonders'. And Jesus warned that even the VERY ELECT would be susceptible!
Matthew 24:24 For THERE SHALL ARISE FALSE CHRISTS, AND FALSE PROPHETS, and SHALL SHEW GREAT SIGNS and WONDERS; INSOMUCH THAT, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, THEY SHALL DECEIVE THE very elect.
The spirit of antichrist is at work here. Antichrist means 'against' and 'in place of' the true Christ.
CUE: TBJ is linked to both the common and revelational names of Jesus - 'Joshua' (the Hebrew of the Greek translated as Jesus) and 'Emmanuel' the name for Jesus announced by Angel Gabriel which means 'God with us'.
2Thess.9-12:
9. This MAN OF SIN will come as SATAN’S TOOL, FULL of satanic power, and will TRICK everyone with strange demonstrations, and WILL DO GREAT MIRACLES.
10 He WILL COMPLETELY FOOL those who are on their way to hell because they have said no to the Truth; they have refused to believe it and love it and let it save them,
11 so God will allow them to believe lies with all their hearts,
12 and all of them will be justly judged for believing falsehood, refusing the Truth, and enjoying their sins.
2Cor.11.13-15:
13 For such are FALSE APOSTLES, DECEITFUL WORKERS, TRANSFORMING THEMSELVES into the apostles of Christ.
14 And NO MARVEL; for SATAN HIMSELF is TRANSFORMED into an angel of light.
15 Theref5ore IT IS NO GREAT THING IF HIS MINISTERS ALSO BE TRANSFORMED AS THE MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS; whose end shall be according to their works.
Do I hate TBJ? Absolutely, No!
Time will tell, if he is true or not. Eternity will affirm. But no one should wait for eternity to discover the truth!
Chibest2000: Point 1: Am not making him real neither am I faking him. And the fact that he's saving lives matters a lot to me regardless of what you think of him, remember that the same thing happened to Jesus himself when he was accused of using false power to cast out evil spirits and he asked them "how can darkness chase away darkness?" Last point: remember not to judge others so you won't be judged alike.(leave judgements to God)..
I clearly understand you. It is good to help people no doubt. As for his saving lives it is about here and now, not for eternity. Is he born again? Is he a child of God? Has he ever said he is? Does he have the spirit of God? etc. Are you? Am I? I did in 1983 and I think I know at least a little of the Bible to discern some things.
As for judging don't get it wrong. Jesus exposed lies and deceivers such as the Pharisees. He expect his disciples to do so.
The antichrist will arrive sooner or later. He will do 'gooder' things than TBJ and the world will follow him and persecute those opposing him!
Chibest2000: Whether he is real or fake I don't give a shit! All I know is that he's doing the right thing in not only healing but helping the poor masses around the globe financially and otherwise, in fact if other men of God will emulate his standards am sure it will go a long way in reducing the rate of suffering by the less privileged world wide. Imagine a man of God flying about 4 expensive private jets, whereas a good potion of his congregation live from hand to mouth, some of them are even fighting to be named the 1st, 2nd and 3rd richest pastors (business men of God), no wonder they often preach prosperity rather than repentance.. Only God can judge you all..
Good observations!
There are pretenders in the Church BUT, TBJ is fake wholly. The end doesn't justify the means! Good is not always Godly. Satan is not incapable of doing 'good'.
Would NUC sync lecturing with this change? How ready are the lecturers? What about the state of facilities?
I hope the change takes cognisance of revolutions in Public Health and Preventive Medicine?
What about Nutrition and so called 'Alternative Medicine' much of which I prefer to call Natural Medicine.
If this new curriculum is still overfocused on disease and its diagnosis and management, then I think it has failed to really change with the reality in the global and local health and health care scenes.
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CC: lalasticlala lala, kindly put this out there to keep people informed. Thanks
kayo80: Hmm! But the fact is that there are so many closet gay men out there...so many of them married, and living miserable lives, cos they are living a lie. And I think it is unfair to say people choose to be gay. How can any sane man choose a lifestyle that puts his life at danger and that of his family, if he has a choice? People make it seem like these gay men just wake up one morning and say 'yea, I want to be gay' and they turn a switch in their heads, and bam! They are gay. Why don't you try being gay for a day...You can't, cos it is not a choice.
It begins with a choice.
Then becomes a habit.
Then an addiction.
And finally the demonic spirit that has been doing the tempting from without gains entry within to possess and bind into the gay life.
Gay life is no ordinary life. It is esoteric. All caught up can't stop. They need help if willing to change.
The usual story in an evil and corrupt nation where life, especially of the young , means nothing. God will judge this evil. Every security officer, Police or not, who uses his position to shed innocent blood or cover crime will answer before God if he escapes judgement on earth. Same goes for you and I!
May the mother of Douglas receive the comfort of God, whether or not her son was innocent.
ogahenry: RIVERS STATE IS GONE, SOLD, RAPED AND BATTERED IN THE NAME OF POLITICS AND THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A GLOBAL ISLAMIC AGENDA ON THE TRAIL. THIS IS NOT ABOUT WIKE AND AMAECHI. IT IS REESTABLISHING THE STATUS QUO. THERE IS NO NEW TESTAMENT, THE OLD ORDER REMAINS. WORSE IS, IT IS DIFFERENTLY BAD, NO WORSE. AND MY GOOD PEOPLE COULD NOT WISE UP.
I WEEP FOR MY DEAR STATE. SORRY RIVERS STATE AS STRANGE BEDFELLOWS TAKE YOU ON, FEASTING ON YOU AND LAUGHING YOU TO THEIR SHRINE. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY!!!!!!
I think it is more than Islamic and beyond Rivers. Really it's about the New World Order. Every human on the planet is under seige by alien = demon forces controlling governments. Rivers State is too important to be in the 'wrong hands' in the opinion of the local and international powers that be!
Yanks101: Damn. 70 gone at a go. The united states need to wade into this issue with the seriousness it deserves. The Nigerian govt if left alone would see everybody wiped out. We need 100 units of predator and reaper drones roaming the north-eastern skies, taking out enemy formations before they strike.
Complex issues. What if those you trust are the ones behind your enemies? There is more than we see and know. Terrorism is one of the means to redefine, restructure and reorder the world for the soon coming global rule by the Beast, Satan incarnate!