₦airaland Forum

I don't know why, instead of reciting good Ifa, you go on and on about fantasy. NASA using Ifa? please show your evidence. It is not good to lie in the name of Ifa. Ifa is truth. Ifa does not need such embellishments, even if your intentions are earnest.

So, everything in the world that is binary will be accredited to Ifa? Everything based on the number 16 too?

No. That is wrong. For something to be from odufa, you must show me the recitiation of oluwo, the client, the problem, the ebo and whether it was performed or not.

If you want to credit all binary mathematics to Ifa, then you are on a self defeating mission. You will do more harm than good.

I hope that this message reaches all Yoruba people and practitioners of the Yoruba peoples faith in good health.

The Traditional religion of Yoruba people should not be accepted by Africans only because it is their religion, it should be accepted because it is Truth. And by that, I mean Truth for all people. That is why Oyinbo like myself (who is not of Yoruba descent) place our heads to the ground in honor of Òrìşánlá, The GREAT Deity and the other òrìşa.

There is plenty of exoteric knowledge available to anyone who would like to learn. And there is plenty of oral literature that has been written down. The only thing that is different from religions of the "book" is that we have not organized (like at the council of Nicea) to select and choose which oriki literature, which Sango Pipe, Oosa Piple, Ijala and Ese Ifa will make it into a final version. This is because we humans do not presume, like Christianity did, that we can decide which words of Olorun should be taught, and which ones should not.

Ifa has gotten the most attention by anthropologists which has served as a spring-board for aborisa to promote Ifa as the comparable of Christian/Jewish/Muslim written text. This is good. But aborisa must also learn about their own family deity, and collect Ijala, oriki, pipe and publish it in length so the full scope of Yoruba genius, and the deity of the Original people can be seen.

Does Oosa Pipe not provide sufficient moral teaching that is applicable for any civilization? Yes. How about Ijala Ogun? YES. How many creators could have had a hand in creating me? ONLY ONE. Obatala, Obatarisa Ajala aiye, alamorere, mori mori ti, mori omo titun /the King who wears white cloth, King of all deities, Creator of the Earth, He who moulds (people) with choice clay, He who moulds the heads of new born children. Obatala is not the moulder of idols, he is the moulder of Man Kind.

And Yoruba religion DID NOT COME FROM EGYPT. It is bad scholarship to say so. It is not in Ifa, it is not in Obatala literature, and the linguistic and archeological evidence does not support it. Maybe some people want to think that their religion came from the lighter skinned Egyptians because they built pyramids and had writing. But its not true, and whatever we as religous people say, MUST BE TRUE so that the irunmole will bless us.

Heeepa Orisa Oooooo

Hello all,

I'm an undergrad student in New York, and I am looking for a book published in Abuja.
Maybe it's in the Abuja U. Library, or maybe someone knows how to get it.

The book is:

Obatala : God of creation / by Goke O. Okeowo.
Abuja : Nigerian Educational and Research Development Council, 2005.
x, 88 p.
ISBN: 9788067751

I would like my own copy, or maybe arrange to have someone make copies for me.
Anything else on Indigene practices anyone would like to rec. in English, much appreciated for my research.

Thanks
Tawede