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Fanatics spotted

Fahvvy:
The most useless religion ever known to man is this so-called religion of peace ...
I spit on their so-called gods! ...
All their followers know, is to cause mayhem and destruction ...
Mention one place where this useless religion exists and there's peace, just one ...

KevMitnick:
If you allow people like the op to gaslight you, it's all on you.
What you see before you is what it is, no whitewashing, no film tricks, you best believe it.
If you ask them to talk about Deborah's lynching, Mrs Rhoda's incarceration and the hisba police, they start rigmarolling and talking about laws and disorderly Muslims, meanwhile in their hearts they are in full support of the actions of these dissidents.
God forbid that shit happens to you in their hands, you will learn the hard way that their laws apply to you too.

Dear fanatics, I was forced to clear your doubt.

1. The Prophet emphasized the care of orphans and exemplified it through his actions. He said:
"I and the person who looks after an orphan and provides for him will be in Paradise like this," (putting his index and middle fingers together). (Sahih al-Bukhari)
Qur'anic reference: "Did He not find you an orphan and give [you] refuge?" (Qur'an 93:6)

2. Forgiveness After the Conquest of Mecca
When the Prophet entered Mecca victorious, he forgave the people who had persecuted him and his followers for years. He said:
"No blame will there be upon you today. May Allah forgive you; and He is the Most Merciful of the merciful." (Qur'an 12:92; echoed during the event, Sahih Muslim)

3. The Prophet forbade cruelty to animals, teaching compassion. He narrated a story of a prostitute forgiven by Allah for giving water to a thirsty dog.
"There is a reward for serving any living being." (Sahih al-Bukhari)

4. In Ta'if, when the people rejected him, mocked him, and threw stones, he prayed:
"O Allah, guide my people, for they do not know." He refused to invoke a curse upon them, demonstrating immense patience and forgiveness. (Sahih al-Bukhari)

5. The Prophet stood against racism and tribalism. He declared:
"There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab, or a white person over a black person, except by piety and good action." (Musnad Ahmad)

6. After the Battle of Badr, he ordered that prisoners be treated with dignity and allowed those who could teach Muslims to earn their freedom. (Ibn Hisham, Sirat RasuluLlah)

7. The Prophet was known for uplifting the status of women, commanding fair treatment, and saying:
"The best of you are those who are best to their wives." (Sunan al-Tirmidhi)

8. The Prophet is described as a mercy in his intercession for all humanity on the Day of Judgment.
"We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds." (Qur'an 21:107)
This includes pleading for forgiveness for sinners.


9. The Prophet instructed his followers to avoid harming others:
"There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm." (Sunan Ibn Majah)

10. His Lifestyle of Humility and Generosity
He lived simply, gave generously, and never turned away someone in need. Once, a man asked for his shirt, and he gave it to him, even though he had no replacement. (Sahih al-Bukhari 6036)


These examples, supported by Islamic scripture and teachings, reflect the profound mercy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) showed to all creation.

sreamsense:
Don't run away; answer the questions. It is a question you should throw more light in; you cited from Quran and I need you to tell me where Mohammad demonstrated he was mercies to the world. How is that a simple question you can't answer? Just 10 instances where Mohammad demonstrated he is a mercy to the world or is your mercy pointing to another thing? Very shameful if you can tell me 10 areas where Mohammad demonstrated he is a mercy to the world. If you can not please erase that off your Quran, he acted different from what was written down in quran

Congratulations

Can we get the list of all them

Aameen, and you too.

I don't know their headache about what concerns them not

Eniitankorede:
May Allah reward you for enlightening the illiterates and ignorant ones among the bigots of other religions. This is how they fought and lost woefully on hijab issue. They will eventually lose this one too because they are just busy bodies who wont live and let others live. Shariah, hijab, Islam is none of their business . But they believe in subjugation of other religions while shedding crocodile tears begging US and the west to help them against a phantom oppression, while they are the real oppressors.

This is what we're saying. Are we arguing religion here?

Who's peaceful between you and I now? You're circulating thesame propaganda we've been clearing you off for years, just to instigate violence.

I recommend you get educated or at least follow Reno Omokri because it's not your fault, you need education on these matters

sreamsense:
Tell me ten places that mohammad demonstrated he brought mercies to the world. Or is it another Mohammad that Quran is talking about? The Mohammad prophet only brought war, killings and wickedness to the world. Where is the mercy reflection in Mohammad when he killed a man and snatched his wife? Where is mercy reflection of Mohammad when he commanded a woman that told her she committed adultery be stoned to death?

Jesus Christ is the only one that his life reflected that of mercy. A woman was caught in adultery and brought to Jesus to be stoned, but Jesus being mercy Himself forgave her and told her to sin no more. That is example of mercy unmerited. A man that brought mercy will not marry six years old underage teenage girl that was still playing with baby toys and rendered her barren in life due to sexual abuse and child molestation. Mohammad brought opposite of mercies because his terrorists known as soldiers of Allah never allowed world to rest with killings. Jesus is the only one that we truely see His life style and that of his followers reflecting peace and mercy

First thing you should first clear your mind of is that EVERYTHING THAT'S DONE BY THE NORTHERNERS OR IN THE NORTH, MAYBE FOR ISLAM IS RIGHT. No, Islam is guided by laws and principles from the Qur'an and Hadith. They may be right or wrong in their actions

I can tell you boldly that it's not everywhere in the North non sales of alcohol exists, it happens in Kano, Zamfara as I'm aware of and that's because they included it in their State Law. It's their State Law that supported Hisbah police just as our State law supports Ebubeagu, Amotekun

So you have to respect their State Law just as you'll respect the law of the land in Anambra, Ogun or Bayelsa States.

That of Deborah, understand first that Blaspheme of Allah, Holy Prophet or any prophet of Allah is a grave sin so please don't blasphemy. Even Muslim MUST not blaspheme

The Shariah Court will adjudicate, determine wether she's guilty or not, and not as they did (mobbed her). That's not Shariah

Mrfeel:
Why are none Muslims in the north forced not to sell or buy alcohol in the north? Why was Deborah mobbed my Muslims for talking about Jesus and holyghost in a student Whatsapp group?

It concerns every Muslim in South West not Yorubas.
Shariah Court is for Muslim.

All the propaganda should stop already. What's scaring you all about shariah Court please

Armaggedon:
Anyways, it concerns you and Yorubas, not me.

We've had shariah sittings across southwest even before you're born.
Why are you angry about shariah Court that concerns you not
https://www.nairaland.com/8299973/islam-northerners-reflection-ignorance-misconception

Mrluv:
the youth should just burn down the place. sharia law would not be tolerate in yoruba land

Shariah Court has nothing to do with Boko Haram. Don't act like an educated illiterate
https://www.nairaland.com/8299973/islam-northerners-reflection-ignorance-misconception

garykoeman:
Sharia in south west should be rejected in it totality.

Same law lead to the emergence of Boko Haram in the north.

The constitution of the country is supreme.

While reading through the comments of some individuals regarding the formalization of Shariah Court in Oyo Town, I was perplexed by the level of misunderstanding, ignorance and illiteracy displayed by some set of people in their remarks.
I quote "The caliphate is creeping in silently" "They don dey come small small" What concern caliphate about shariah that has been in southwest before this person was born?

"Like play like play, Oyo will be a gonna too. This is just how Ilorin case started "

"The North knows the only way to get a strong hold of South is through southwest because South South and South East will not allow them" These are pure display of ignorance. We have larger percentage of Muslims in Edo State, infact they dominated Edo North

Many seemed to believe that Islam and its practices, including the Shariah legal system, are exclusive to the Hausa ethnic group and Northern Nigeria. This misconception is not only erroneous but also reflects a lack of proper understanding of Islam’s universal teachings and the unwilling to accept the truth even after being educated.

Islam is not confined to any region, ethnicity, or tribe. It is a religion meant for all of humanity, as affirmed by the Qur'an and Sunnah. It is vital to correct these flawed perspectives and highlight that Muslims in Nigeria come from diverse ethnic and regional backgrounds, including the South West, South South, and South East, where Islam has been deeply rooted for centuries.
As a Yoruba man, I have lived in the core North, South South for close to 10 years so I understand what I'm saying.

Islam, as a religion, transcends geographical and cultural boundaries.

The Qur’an states:
“And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (Qur'an 21:107)
This verse makes it clear that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent as a mercy to all humanity, not just a specific group of people.

Additionally, Allah says:
“O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.” (Qur'an 49:13)
This verse emphasizes that piety and righteousness are the only criteria for distinction in Islam, not ethnicity or regional origin.

Shariah courts and Islamic legal systems are established to serve the Muslim Ummah (community) wherever Muslims reside. Their existence in the South West and other parts of Nigeria is a reflection of the region’s commitment to Islamic principles and not an imposition by any ethnic group.

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“Whoever seeks a path in search of knowledge, Allah will make the path to Paradise easy for him.” (Muslim)
This Hadith underscores the importance of understanding and applying Islamic teachings, including Shariah, across all Muslim communities, irrespective of their ethnic or regional background.

Shariah courts adjudicate matters specific to Muslims, guided by the Qur’an and Sunnah. Non-Muslims are not subject to Shariah unless they voluntarily seek its arbitration.

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“The affairs of the Muslims are to be decided by the Qur’an and Sunnah.” ( Ibn Majah)
This makes it clear that Shariah courts exist solely to serve the needs of Muslims.


Also, the idea that Yoruba, Igbo, or Edo Muslims are "fake Muslims" by some educated illiterate is baseless and contrary to Islamic teachings. Muslims across Nigeria, whether from the North, South West, South South, or South East, are united under one Ummah.

".....Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.” (Qur'an 49:13)

As I reflect on these comments, I realized the urgent need to address such misconceptions that has been going on for years on this forum and beyond, educate others on the universal nature of Islam. Islam is not owned by any ethnic group or region. The presence of Shariah courts in places like Oyo Town is not an imposition by the North but a reflection of the Islamic practice that has existed in the South West for centuries. Muslims across Nigeria, regardless of their ethnic background, are part of the same Ummah, united by the Qur’an and Sunnah.

It is crucial to abandon the divisive narrative that attributes Islam to a particular group. Instead, we must embrace the understanding that Islam, as taught by the Qur’an, is a religion for all who submit to Allah.

Olodo ni e.

Shariah got nothing to do with the North, it's Islam.

Pierocash:
They are gradually conquering the South West. But the igbos are their problem. Awon oponu

What's caliphate about shariah?

Why do you all have warp mentality that Islam is for the North (Hausa)? Why can't you get educated?

There's shariah sitting across southwest geopolitical zone, they only want to formalize that of Oyo Town.
It has been formalized(in Osun State already)

Racoon:
The caliphate is still creeping in silently.

Apt

helinues:
Meanwhile, some people might want to relate what happened in Ibadan as a ritual or deliberate sacrifice, that's pure nonsense.

Poor organisation from the event holders caused the stampeding.

Wow. Very thoughtful of you

I think this is good approach

helinues:
That won't work.

Best method is for South West state governors to have a serious meeting with all the religious group operating in their state, because all of them are culprits in this ritual of a thing.

Do they want to be allowed to be practicing their religion in peace without manipulating people or they should be shut down as a group. A sin of one of them, reasonable of them will pay for it.

In such case, there would be internal saboteurs as those who are innocent wouldn't want to be affected.

So with time, there should be improvement.

Also, some religion operating around South West need to change their orientation about some certain things.

Apart from those who are into ritual, we still have the manipulative part from the religion side. Why should they be encouraging someone who is jobless to be coming to Monday service when they supposed to be hunting for job?

How is it logical to be operating 3 nights vigil in a week? That's gathering of jobless people

It should be done immediately.

Ther should be mass action against Governorrs of SW to have a serious sanction of death penalty in place for these animals

helinues:
The problem is from the community. The people around those people are aware of their evil acts but refused to talk.

All those Alfa's, pastors , herbalist are mostly scam.

I grew up in a hood where almost all religion was practiced so I know about all those stuffs.

Something would be done about it this time around.

I'm not covering up that's why I'm calling Yoruba leaders' out, I'm only pointing out that this madness is only prevalent in South West but it happens everywhere across Nigeria.

Thanks anyway

vanbonattel:
No, there is no ritual killings in the south east. The celebrated Otokoto case happened in the 80s for crying out loud! People are still saying he was framed, but an event that happened more than 40 years ago cannot be used as a point.

Clifford Orji? That was in Lagos if I remember, not in the south east, and that was a clear 30 years ago,he was later found to be mentally unfit to stand trial.

We are worried about current happenings in the south west, don't go digging up old,doubtful news from the east to cover up evil.

I think there should be detective who would be getting information like this. Anyone culpable, Islamic or Christian cleric or any herbalist deserves to be below the earth.

This is the only solution

helinues:
A friend took me to one Alfa like that, I am not that type even back then but as things stall, make it no be like person dey proof stubborn.

When we got there, the alfa's place is not different from herbalist shrine. At the end of the day, he promised he can make us rich within 7 days, before we knew it, he brought out dried skull, jeez I was like I don eventually missed my road.

Someone who is not even having a car is promising me of making me a millionaire within 7 days, hahahah, has he forbidden himself of becoming a millionaire too?

There is no logic in using any human being part for ritual. No

The only thing that whatever they give you after the ritual part will only restore confident in whatever you are doing. Not any concoction you eat.

After all how many of those who have tried the rituals have been successful? Very poor rate.

The friends which I knew back then that used to visit one place to another, there current story might have been worst than before.

Exactly. We can't continue this way.

Government are involved in this madness that's why it's not stopping.

helinues:
Good morning to my South West people

I created a thread about it like 2 years ago but it was taken down.

That madness must stop. I mean a must stop

How can poverty ridden looking man be promising you of becoming rich by using other human beings for ritual? Where are your own kids to use for the ritual.

Quick death sentence to any one caught with human part

You can't call it culture because only 1-2% of Yoruba involves in such.

Ritual killings is everywhere from South East, to south South even core North. I've stayed there before so I know. We've heard cases of Okotako hotel, Theodore Orji ritual bath and such.

So this is a call for all as well, ritual killers deserves no life

vanbonattel:
How then did the practice get so widespread and entrenched, almost like its a culture? I am not here to banter, I want to learn and am ready to help dissuade people from doing the wrong things.

Oga, check the second to the last paragraph. Please this thread is not a joke where ethnic banters triumph. There's cannibalism in South East as well

There's nothing traditional about that madness in Yoruba land, I'm Yoruba so I know more.

This is just a public challenge to every stakeholders in South West because we're against it.

Please don't turn this thread to ethic banter thread

vanbonattel:
Op, the practice is being encouraged by their leaders. Stop worrying about that. It's a practice steeped in ancient tradition and cannot be stopped like that.

Any governor that tries to stop it will be impeached.

This is what I'm saying, don't turn this thread to tribal thread. I'm Yoruba and I'm calling the government out because I'm against it

kettykings:
I now firmly believe that some fallen progenitor cursed this land from the hell. Every governor from this region should be prosecuted at the ICC for watching ,tolerating and not fighting a crime against God, humanity, and all moral decency.

Ritual killings, driven by the pursuit of quick wealth, have become a distressing reality in Nigeria, particularly within the Yoruba communities of the South West and by extension , Kwara State in North Central.
Ogun State, in particular, has witnessed a troubling surge in such heinous acts. As a concerned Yoruba individual, I find this trend deeply alarming and believe it necessitates immediate and decisive action.

The prevalence of ritual killings in Ogun State is well-documented. In February 2022, four young men were charged with the murder of a 20-year-old woman in a suspected ritual killing case in Abeokuta, Ogun State. Similarly, in March 2022, a high court in Abeokuta released one of four suspects allegedly involved in the ritual killing of their friend's girlfriend for money rituals. These incidents are not isolated; they reflect a broader, more pervasive issue that has infiltrated our society.

The complicity of certain political figures and government officials in these acts cannot be overlooked. Their involvement, whether direct or indirect, has emboldened perpetrators and perpetuated a culture of impunity. This betrayal of public trust undermines the very fabric of our society and erodes confidence in our institutions.

To combat this menace, it is imperative for the Ogun State government, and the South West region at large, to enact stringent laws that prescribe the death penalty for confirmed ritual killers, with executions carried out within three months of conviction. Such decisive action would serve as a powerful deterrent to potential offenders and signal an unyielding commitment to eradicating this scourge from our land.

Furthermore, there is a pressing need for comprehensive public enlightenment campaigns to educate our people about the dangers and moral reprehensibility of ritual killings. Community leaders, religious institutions, and civil society organizations must collaborate to foster a culture that values human life and upholds the sanctity of our shared humanity.

Without a resolute and ironclad approach to this madness, our society stands to lose its moral compass and descend further into chaos. We must act now to cleanse Yoruba land of this atrocity and restore the values that have long defined our people.

Let’s not turn this into an ethnic banter. Every tribe in Nigeria has its challenges, and this isn't about blaming one another. In the South West, we're addressing the issue of ritual killings and calling on the government to take decisive action against criminals in our land. Similarly, the issue of cannibalism in the South East deserves serious attention. This is about holding wrongdoers accountable and improving society, not tribal division. Let's stay focused on the solutions.

In conclusion, the time for complacency has passed. The Ogun State government, alongside other South Western states, must take immediate and decisive action to end ritual killings. By implementing stringent laws, ensuring swift justice, and fostering public awareness, we can deter would-be perpetrators and reclaim the safety and dignity of our communities.



Tiyín ní tòótó,
Omo Yoòbá àtàtà, onetwoone


Cc Ogun State Government
Oyo State Government
Osun State Government
Ondo State Government
Ekiti State Government
Lagos State Government
Kwara State Government

He's saying the truth but Obidence won't take note

I hope hands of law meet them..

Funke should focus on what she's known for.

Politics is not for everyone

She'll wail for another 8 years.

She and her wide ugly mouth should be left alone

Obidence at work.

This is not Igboland please