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Meanwhile, Crimea already belonged to Russians as an ethnicity before the annexation since it was already a majority Russian province but under the Ukrainian government much like you can have Yorubas in both Nigeria and Benin Republic.
In 2014 when the Ukrainians became pro-west, the Crimeans and the eastern Donbass people revolted and called for seccesion to join Russia but the Nazi Ulrainian junta started cracking down on them using extremist nationalist groups like Azov

You need to read up the Odessa massacre to understand the extent of atrocities commited but western media twisted the narratives reducing emphasis on Ukrainian excesses and exaggerating Russian ones.

Lawag3:
Then what's you guys stress because before the British gained control of the land the Jews were already in the land.


And then when you said Palestinian you refer to Jew, Arab.


Israel existed on that land it was always Israel it was just renamed by the romans true or false.


Anyway I was just trying to point out to you that the last independent country and that land was the country of the Jews not of Palestine. Jews were even part of Palestine.

So how did the Jews steal land is OT when the UN rightly partitioned the land between the Jews and Arabs or when the Jews took land that got trough war.


The Russia steal Crimea

Now i think we are on the same page. Why didn't the Britain create one single country where Jews and Arabs have equal rights? Why did they carve up an existing country they are governing and give one half to a sophisticated people they have offended from Europe and leave the other half to those who had been subjugated for so long? The Jews had all the backings of their relatives and fri3nds lobbying for maximum support in all European and American countries and they have always been the most prosperous people around the world. The Arabs stood no chance when all the western countries that colonised the middle east are in support of the European Jews migrating en masse.


Even today, the Jews from Europe (Ashkenazi) stand at the pinnacle of Israeli society whilst even the middle east jews they met are relegated.

Lawag3:
Then what's you guys stress because before the British gained control of the land the Jews were already in the land.


And then when you said Palestinian you refer to Jew, Arab.


Israel existed on that land it was always Israel it was just renamed by the romans true or false.


Anyway I was just trying to point out to you that the last independent country and that land was the country of the Jews not of Palestine. Jews were even part of Palestine.

So how did the Jews steal land is OT when the UN rightly partitioned the land between the Jews and Arabs or when the Jews took land that got trough war.


The Russia steal Crimea

bigpicture001:
The US is the only reason reason why qurter is still standing...cuz Iran invaded qarter..

Also all the Baltic states would have been invaded by Russia ba the US...

China would have invaded lost of its neighbours ba the US..Japan would still b colonising China and Hongkong ba the US...isreal wouldn't have left Gaza ba the US...

I can go on and on...u know fully well about invasions during ww2

So what about countries that stopped US when it invaded other countries directly or indirectly?

The fact that a country is not independent does not remove its existence. Yes, Nigeria was created in 1914 but got independence in 1960. It was already a country, independentor not, so I don't know what you are driving at.

Lawag3:
Did Nigeria under the British issued passports?

And please continue to ignore the word independent.

Tiopii:
Everytime Russia be threatening the World with nukes unto a war they started themselves.

They didn't start the war. Ukraine started the war in 2014 when they started killing their own people who want to secede and join Russia.

Golda Meir had a Palestinian passport. Yes or no?
Does a non existing nation issue passport?

Lawag3:
Citizens of Palestine. Because the Palestinians love the Jews right?


It was Israel before it was ever Palestine. Palestine has never existed as a country or an independent state. From the romans to the ottomans to the British.


Jerusalem has been the eternal capital city of ancient Israel. What was the capital city of ancient Palestine? Its currency was the shekel. What is the currency of ancient Palestine. David, Moses, Jesus were all the ancestors of Jews tell me just one notable person of Palestinian descent.

Even if 2 million people will die in each country, is it worth the price. You want to kill a man who can equally kill you, should commonsense not tell you to sit down and talk with him. Instead you are levelling exxergerated allegations against him so you can kill him. Is that not stupidity?

EBEk101:
If you think Russia alone can wipe out those countries it means you are still dreaming or don’t understand the game at play and don’t bring in china because they know Russia too is a threat to their total global dominance, that’s why they are very careful in the so called proxy war, and yes those countries will be badly hurt but Russia will cease to exist. If all those countries should send their nuclear warheads nothing that bears life will exist in Russia

Is like say I’m muscular, I can be 32 slim Guys that are of my height

You just showed your ignorance again. Which early 2000s? The whole thing started in 2014 I i already explained in my post.

Feggie3:
Tell another lie please. Was this the reason why Russia invaded Ukraine in the early 2000s? Or are you not aware that their invasion has been incessant? Like a man raping his neighbour's girl child as pleased.

Germany surrendered in May 1945 and US nuked Japan in September 1945. How dif the two incidences relate. Please be coherent in yout arguments.

Karnice600:
Trust me you don’t know anything about the US military doctrine, nor how things have played out in history to this regard.

When Japan was nuked, it took the world by surprise. It shook Hitler’s knees and killed the Naziz morale.
You never know what the US has up her sleeves until it’s time.
Do you see them do military parade?

Look, a lot of you Putin bastards here have deliberately decided to be mentally useless.
I don’t know what sum you’re paid.

Russia controls 27 percent of Ukraine and Ukraine controls 0.5 percent of Russia. Ukraine wins the war.

Even almighty US has had their nose bitten in several wars against smaller nation.

They couldn't prevail on Vietnam after almost 10 years.

They couldn't defeat North Korea in the Korean war and ended up declaring armistice.

They couldn't even defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Don't let media Reports deceive you. They are pro US and will spin the story the way it favours them but western countries know what they are losing.

The fact that you have suicide bombers means there are people mad enough in this world to take others down with themselves so don't take a nuclear threat lightly.

Meanwhile. Russia doesn't even need nuclear to deal with Ukraine. Just keep watching.

Karnice600:
Shut up joor. Suganmu.

Having the highest number of nukes isn’t what counts. How many warheads are deployable?
Even if 1000 are, you don’t need that number practically, cos that will cause a devastating nuclear winter that will take you out eventually too.
The aim of nukes is to serve as a deterrent. If eventually it’s used, the launcher will need to stay alive. That has a lot to do with tact, technology and strategy.., so far which Russia has proven to be limited in.

So Crimea is almost a third of Ukraine? I have already explained all the incidences leading to this war but you either haven't read it or you don't care. The West and Ukraine started this war and Russia invaded to prevent itself being attacked.

11doubledee:
But who sent putin message to invade a sovereign nation after annexing almost a third of the same country in 2014?
Doesn't that sounds like an action of a trouble maker?
Why has he not invaded Stockholm and Helsinki like he is trying to do in Kiev who are NATO members?
Despite the huge North Korean missiles and tanks as well as Iranian drones ,what has he achieved in Ukraine till date?

They can go back to the countries they all came from. The ones that want to stay can be citizens of Palestine. Most Israelis have 3 or more citizenship.

Lawag3:
How and where should the Jews go.

Did USA defeat Vietnam? Did USA defeat North Korea in the Korean war?

Jayhome24:
Hahahaha bulabu balablu blabla blehbleh ordinary Ukrane are already in your territory you couldn't defeated them for 2 years talkless of world war.

Putin go to hell No one cares about your empty threat again if dem born you detonate your quack nuclear shit it will kill your country citizen and kill in countries that have borders with you so nuclear shit don't work on static point it goes like wildfire spreading on all direction claiming space as far as possible even to Africa and consumees all your apologist here in Nigeria. Una never sabi anything.

Empty bragging. I spit!!! Him!

Winnin009:
So an outright invasion is the answer? Why happened to diplomatic relations?

And you’re story doesn’t check out.

I remember US warning the world of a potential Russia invasion of Ukraine; they denied it with all their blood. Even Ukraine didn’t believe it until the first bombs sounded.

They invaded under a false flag or something like that.

So when did they call Ukraine for negotiations and they didn’t honor. I go like read the article.

I am not sure you read everything I wrote up there. Russia didn't start with an outright invasion. If they did, they would have bombed Ukraine's infrastructure into smitherins when they had the shock advantage. Instead, they surrounded they capital hoping for a deal, just like what they did to Georgia in 2008 and it worked. At some point, Russia was ready to go all out because they still had 30,00 troops around kiev. Zelensky then promised to pull out of NATO and a peace deal was reached in Turkey. Immediately, Russia pulled out their forces back to Belarus. They following day, Boris Johnson went to meet Zelensky and before you knew it, Ukraine tore the agreement and declared it has won the 'Battle of Kyiv' a battle they didn't even fight.

Look, how do you think they were able to enslave our forefathers. The West has always been super cunning and apparently you are one of the victims of their brainwashing.

1. Ukraine was pummeling the Russian enclave near the Russian border and amassing thousands of troops in preparation for an escalation. This is a gross violation of Minsk agreements already.

2. Ukraine announced openly that it would join NATO, a military alliance actively working towards destroying Russia.

3. At the same time, USA stepped up its military and biolab activities in Ukraine, sending tons of ammunition into the country

4. Russia still did not invade but began to amass troops on its borders with Ukraine, thinking the threat of invasion will make Ukraine back down

5. Russia then began to openly lay down its complaints but all fell on deaf ears. Instead, the western media continued to spread the news that Russia wants to invade an innocent Ukraine. Is Ukraine innocent?

6. Russia then, formally accepted the breakaway regions on Donetsk and Luhansk and sent in its troops

7. At the same time, they sent an expeditionary force from the north to threaten Kiev, thinking again that Kiev would become scared and backtrack. The Russians underestimated the level to which the western powers had armed and prepared Ukraine for 8 years.

8. The rest is history. If Russia wanted, they could have gone total war on Ukraine from the beginning but they thought they could still reason with them as brothers

Winnin009:
And foolish Africans used to being oppressed legit think Russia has every right to invade a sovereign nation with a legal government.

We’re really disturbed in these parts. 😂

So many people are ignorant due to western propaganda against Russia. Below are the reasons Russia is fighting Ukraine:


1. Ukraine was pummeling the Russian enclave near the Russian border and amassing thousands of troops in preparation for an escalation. This is a gross violation of Minsk agreements already.

2. Ukraine announced openly that it would join NATO, a military alliance actively working towards destroying Russia.

3. At the same time, USA stepped up its military and biolab activities in Ukraine, sending tons of ammunition into the country

4. Russia still did not invade but began to amass troops on its borders with Ukraine, thinking the threat of invasion will make Ukraine back down

5. Russia then began to openly lay down its complaints but all fell on deaf ears. Instead, the western media continued to spread the news that Russia wants to invade an innocent Ukraine. Is Ukraine innocent?

6. Russia then, formally accepted the breakaway regions on Donetsk and Luhansk and sent in its troops

7. At the same time, they sent an expeditionary force from the north to threaten Kiev, thinking again that Kiev would become scared and backtrack. The Russians underestimated the level to which the western powers had armed and prepared Ukraine for 8 years.

8. The rest is history. If Russia wanted, they could have gone total war on Ukraine from the beginning but they thought they could still reason with them as brothers

Wow! So it's no more nuclear bomb that caused Germany to surrender? Also, China was one of the countries that fought Germany abi?. Clap for yourself. I am just here laughing my arse off due to the incredible level of your stupidity. you can decide to be ignorant, that's okay. But you will make a fool of yourself if you continue to be confident in your ignorance. Weldone bro.

sweetjohn:
Oga Germany first surrender to the combined forces of Europe May 7th. And then Soviet Union marshed to already surrendered Germany May 8. Thats why Europe tildate cerebrate that every May 7th while Russia every May 8th. Pls read very well before arguing nonesense. Germany was originally defeated by Europe, USA and China on mAy 7thand that gave the Soviet strength to marsh to Berlin and Germany also wrote and submit surrendering note to them on May 8th

Do you even read out what you type to yourself? Do you understand how silly and incoherent your arguments are?

Bakhmut is a city, one of over 100 in Ukraine. Gaza is a whole autonomous territory with its own government at it's surrounded by Israel. Where do you want the people of Gaza to go? Most of the people of Bakhmut had been evacuated to other safe places in Ukraine before Russia even comes close except those who don't want to. But have you heard of Gaza refugees in israel? Even Ukraine that Russia is fighting, there are millions of their citzens seeking refuge in Russia.

Lawag3:
YOU HAVE NO ANSWER TO GIVE.
Na only you talk say it's impossible to bombed every square inch of Gaza rightly so.

Analysis of satellite data cited by the Associated Press suggests that about two-thirds of all structures in the north of Gaza have been destroyed, and about a quarter in the southern Khan Younis area. Across the whole territory, about 33% of buildings have been destroyed.

Israel Gaza so unlivable that more than 60% of its buildings are still standing it seems Israel left much much more than a square inch of Gaza unbombed.


Was bakhmut made unlivable by the Russians?


On 26 December, Ukraine's governor of Donetsk, Pavlo Kyrylenko, said over 60 percent of Bakhmut's infrastructure was damaged or destroyed.


Rest my friend you have been saying stupid things

Cool down bro.

I already gave you the precedence for Russia entering Ukraine:

1. Ukraine was pummeling the Russian enclave near the Russian border and amassing thousands of troops in preparation for an escalation. This is a gross violation of Minsk agreements already.

2. Ukraine announced openly that it would join NATO, a military alliance actively working towards destroying Russia.

3. At the same time, USA stepped up its military and biolab activities in Ukraine, sending tons of ammunition into the country

4. Russia still did not invade but began to amass troops on its borders with Ukraine, thinking the threat of invasion will make Ukraine back down

5. Russia then began to openly lay down its complaints but all fell on deaf ears. Instead, the western media continued to spread the news that Russia wants to invade an innocent Ukraine. Is Ukraine innocent?

6. Russia then, formally accepted the breakaway regions on Donetsk and Luhansk and sent in its troops

7. At the same time, they sent an expeditionary force from the north to threaten Kiev, thinking again that Kiev would become scared and backtrack. The Russians underestimated the level to which the western powers had armed and prepared Ukraine for 8 years.

8. The rest is history. If Russia wanted, they could have gone total war on Ukraine from the beginning but they thought they could still reason with them as brothers

Karnice600:
Bro, you’re too daft to have this kind of conversation with…
So in your mind because Ukraine did not cease fire, Russia had to move fleets of tanks to Kyiv later in 2022?
How you take pass WAEC sef?
All the questions I asked you there, you no fit give reasonable answer, and you think I go ahead to explain things to you

Your stupidity can make a child throw up.

Don't go anywhere oh. Come and finish what you started. You have been brainwshed by the western propaganda but many are just waking up now. I was worse than you. My eyes started opening during the Syrian war when I began to analyse stories from both perspectives.

FYI: There is no way the collective west will win in Ukraine. It is unrealistic and unjust.

Karnice600:
Lol…
Most points there are strange to you. I see.
Unfortunately I don’t have the time to show you around the geopolitical galleries at the moment.
Just go back and read.., read with an open mind.
Don’t breed on what your peers say. You still have a long way.

Just go and learn. Best luck.

The only reasonable issue you raised here is no 4.
It is natural for those who have experienced brutal colonisation to hate their former masters. That is why Niger, Burkina Faso etc also hate France. Ukraine had already won independence and decided to be pro-west. Why then did they not allow Ukrainians in the east who love Russia to secede?

Russia never intervened in Ukrainian politics until they started attacking those who don't want to join their pro western thing? Is it by force?

Karnice600:


Is it the killing of Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine just because they want to be part of Russia?
Or is it the western sponsored coup against a pro-Russian president in 2014?
Or is it an attempt to kick Russia's military out of Crimea to build a US base when there is an existing agreement with Russia?

Or is it the American biolabs in Ukraine used to test strange weapons to be used on Russia?



You guys are too daft to still come up with dumb claims like this to justify a senseless invasion.
In America there’s a Mexican community. In France there’s a Jewish community. In China we have the Uyghur Muslims with mixed ancestry being smacked by the CCP. Did you see any of the countries America, France, or even any Islamic state invading or disrupting the order of the countries that their extensive heritage, culture or religion is being victimized? In this 21st century

Now below is a screenshot of the second Minsk agreement,

1. Show us the part of the agreement that Russia did not fail to breach?
2. Why did the first fail?
3. Why couldn’t the Warsaw Pact stand?
4. Why are most Russian neighbors including former Soviet states aligning themselves with NATO?
5. Does Putin spare Russians with counter political views who stand up to him in Russia? If no, why did he decide to sponsor armed separatists groups in Ukraine to upset the national order??
6. Why justify Putin for giving out what he can’t accept

The Warsaw Pact has nothing to do with present realities. It was a communist affair and Putin hates the communists for their failures. The communists gave Crimea and Donbass to the Ukraine Soviet Republic without knowing Ukraine would one day become independent.

Some of the most wicked communists were Ukrainians and Georgians. Stalin was from Georgia. Ukrainians were also the biggest collaborators of Nazi Germany.

Karnice600:


Is it the killing of Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine just because they want to be part of Russia?
Or is it the western sponsored coup against a pro-Russian president in 2014?
Or is it an attempt to kick Russia's military out of Crimea to build a US base when there is an existing agreement with Russia?

Or is it the American biolabs in Ukraine used to test strange weapons to be used on Russia?



You guys are too daft to still come up with dumb claims like this to justify a senseless invasion.
In America there’s a Mexican community. In France there’s a Jewish community. In China we have the Uyghur Muslims with mixed ancestry being smacked by the CCP. Did you see any of the countries America, France, or even any Islamic state invading or disrupting the order of the countries that their extensive heritage, culture or religion is being victimized? In this 21st century

Now below is a screenshot of the second Minsk agreement,

1. Show us the part of the agreement that Russia did not fail to breach?
2. Why did the first fail?
3. Why couldn’t the Warsaw Pact stand?
4. Why are most Russian neighbors including former Soviet states aligning themselves with NATO?
5. Does Putin spare Russians with counter political views who stand up to him in Russia? If no, why did he decide to sponsor armed separatists groups in Ukraine to upset the national order??
6. Why justify Putin for giving out what he can’t accept

The agreement says immediate ceasefire. Did Ukraine stop firing on its own citizens?

Also, firmer German Chancellor, Angela Merkel has confessed that they didn't intend to uphold the Minsk agreements but to use them as a tool to give Ukraine time to arm.

Merkel was one of the parties to the agreement.

Karnice600:


Is it the killing of Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine just because they want to be part of Russia?
Or is it the western sponsored coup against a pro-Russian president in 2014?
Or is it an attempt to kick Russia's military out of Crimea to build a US base when there is an existing agreement with Russia?

Or is it the American biolabs in Ukraine used to test strange weapons to be used on Russia?



You guys are too daft to still come up with dumb claims like this to justify a senseless invasion.
In America there’s a Mexican community. In France there’s a Jewish community. In China we have the Uyghur Muslims with mixed ancestry being smacked by the CCP. Did you see any of the countries America, France, or even any Islamic state invading or disrupting the order of the countries that their extensive heritage, culture or religion is being victimized? In this 21st century

Now below is a screenshot of the second Minsk agreement,

1. Show us the part of the agreement that Russia did not fail to breach?
2. Why did the first fail?
3. Why couldn’t the Warsaw Pact stand?
4. Why are most Russian neighbors including former Soviet states aligning themselves with NATO?
5. Does Putin spare Russians with counter political views who stand up to him in Russia? If no, why did he decide to sponsor armed separatists groups in Ukraine to upset the national order??
6. Why justify Putin for giving out what he can’t accept

What do you mean by injustice?

Is it the killing of Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine just because they want to be part of Russia?
Or is it the western sponsored coup against a pro-Russian president in 2014?
Or is it an attempt to kick Russia's military out of Crimea to build a US base when there is an existing agreement with Russia?

Or is it the American biolabs in Ukraine used to test strange weapons to be used on Russia?

Karnice600:
WriterNG’s brother and same self.
You guys have the same genetic disorder.

You no been hear wetin Bibi tell Biden?… say with or without the US him go smash Hamas
Putin no get guts. He always test waters first before he brags. He knows Russia is rich in ammunitions and nuclear weapons. He’s simply hiding behind that image and Soviets past glory.
You see Zelensky? That’s a Jew. Now that’s the definition of guts. You Putin’s pups call what Putin exhibits guts and call what Zelensky exhibits foolishness because sentiments has skewed your reasoning.
Standing up to a bully against injustice irrespective of his size is guts. Shells have been hitting Kiev but Zelensky never left. Just a stroll by Prighozin and his boys on a courtesy visit to the Kremlin, Putin disappeared. That’s your chess grandmaster with a small size, a small courage and a huge ego that’s digging his grave.
He can’t try this on Israel. That guy was right. Minus the fact that Israel has a more superior military than Ukraine, it would have been hell for Russians.
In fact, seizing Crimea would ve been Putin’s undoing.
Israel’s preemptive prowess is next to none.

I am not sure I have the patience to constantly respond to you. Their are tons of western media reports on the extensive destruction of Gaza and how it is being deliberately rendered unlivable by Israeli forces.

Lawag3:
Good it is not possible to bomb an entire land to every square inch.


Is it just the Beach's that haven't been bombed yes or no.


Or are you saying very square ince of Gaza except the beach has been bombed.


Are you saying the only safe zone in Gaza is the beach.

This statement; 'IDF WERE IN SOUTHERN GAZA WERE PALESTINIANS ASK TO MOVE TO RAFAH OR NOT'

Did you know Rafah is part of Southern Gaza?
[quote author=Lawag3 post=131705364][/quote]

Do you think this statement makes you look less pathetic? Your argument does not hold water because it is technically not possie to bomb an entire land to every square inch. We are saying all parts of Gaza has been bombed and even people are being bombarded in areas where Israel told them to go. You now used an example of a crowded beach as a place that has not been bombed. Does a beach qualify as a whole town or province? Can it take 1 million people. At this point, I think it's hopeless arguing with you. I thought you were intelligent.

Lawag3:
So now you agree that there are places in Gaza that haven't been bombarded.

I can imagine you getting drunk on cheap local spirits before typing these words. You don'teven bother getting your facts straight, you just spew rubbish with confidence.

Germany surrendered after the Soviets entered Berlin in May 1945 . Japan continued to fight for another 5 months before surrendering in September 1945.

sweetjohn:
Oga shut up your mouth. You guys dont reason at all. USA just bombed two cities in Japan. A bomb no country have seen before and you still want German to continue fighting? The bombing of Japan ended the war oga if not the German will wipe out Russia off the surface of the world. The fear of USA droping same bomb to German put fear on them. This is common sense bro pls get it. Thats why today countries are struggling to have their own nuke for deterrent. Bc after USA bombed Japan it dettered Germany and the war ended naturally. Who the hell is Russia to challenge the strongest German military then. You guys dont reason aswear.

Ben is snoring whilst sleeping on the couch beside Anita. The housemates are low-key laughing at him.

I am sure spare parts dealers in garage are more adept at analysing issues than you. Do you listen to yourself at all? Victory in war is determined by objectives and territory acquisition. Most ofbthe soviet casualties were civilians and surrendered soldiers who were massacred en masse at the beginning of the German invasion. The soviets woke up, defended their country and drove the Germans all the way to Berlin. USA and its coward allies left all the heavy fighting to the Soviets and waited for Soviet union to capture Berlin before sharing in the spoils.

sweetjohn:
`Russia that lost 27 million people won Germany to lost 5million people in the hands of europe. How can Russia had won with such tragedy? The highest death toll ever recoreded by one country in a war. Even the Nazis no kill jew reach half of that number. Na who kill pass and cause more destruction win. And for your information Germany was defeated out of fear when USA bombed Japan. Russia did not kill upto 500k German solder. Guy they use brain na. How can Russia had won when they did not kill upto 500k German compare to Germany killing upto half of Russia population as of that time. USA after bombed Japan, was moving towards Berlin together with England and China. Hiltler then committed suicide and they surrender before Russia even hear the news of surrendering. Thats why Europe celebrate the win over superiority of Germany a day before Russia celebrate theirs the next day

FYI: see attached. According to your findings on the image I posted, Israel told Palestinians they can return to Northern Gaza. How can Israel tell people to return to somewhere that they have rendered unlivable?

I have provided my proof of Israel attacking a 'safe zone' contrary to your argument that Israel always tells people to move away from danger.

Lawag3:
A simple google lens search revealed this picture to be from 13 April taken when Gazans were returning to northern Gaza after the IDF told them it's safe to return there.


Una just dey shoot una self back to back