₦airaland Forum

Sultanofpiglets:
I don't wail about the civil war. Can't you see that IGBOs have moved on and are still ready to exterminate any external threat to their existence?

Calm down... IGBOs are formidable.

Respect that and keep quiet

smokinloud:
I CAN'T BE YOUR BRO BECAUSE YOU HATE NON-MUSLIMS?.
The hadiths that you quote, is it against the Qur'an that you don't have deals with non-muslims?.
You think you're talking to an ignorant lol. You bark on the wrong tree.
Firstly, that hadiths you quote does not contradict the Qur'an as long as Muhammad was nice to a subjugated Jew. You don't have issue with non-muslims who are slaves to you. You treat them as dhimmi (sub humans). Muslims are permitted to be nice to their non-muslims slaves because that's all Islam wants, domination. Tell me where the Islam encourages you to be nice to the Jews who are not subjugated to Islam. You can't because Islam is hate religion to humanity. It only favours muslims and their subjects.

The hadiths never contradicts the Qur'an that says you should be ruthless towards non-muslims. Surah 48:29:
مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ۚ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ أَشِدَّاءُ عَلَى الْكُفَّارِ رُحَمَاءُ بَيْنَهُمْ ۖ تَرَاهُمْ رُكَّعًا سُجَّدًا يَبْتَغُونَ فَضْلًا مِنَ اللَّهِ وَرِضْوَانًا ۖ سِيمَاهُمْ فِي وُجُوهِهِمْ مِنْ أَثَرِ السُّجُودِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ مَثَلُهُمْ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ ۚ وَمَثَلُهُمْ فِي الْإِنْجِيلِ كَزَرْعٍ أَخْرَجَ شَطْأَهُ فَآزَرَهُ فَاسْتَغْلَظَ فَاسْتَوَىٰ عَلَىٰ سُوقِهِ يُعْجِبُ الزُّرَّاعَ لِيَغِيظَ بِهِمُ الْكُفَّارَ ۗ وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ مِنْهُمْ مَغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًا29 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. Those with him are stern against the disbelievers, yet compassionate amongst themselves. You see them kneeling, prostrating, seeking blessings from Allah and approval. Their marks are on their faces from the effects of prostration. Such is their description in the Torah, and their description in the Gospel: like a plant that sprouts, becomes strong, grows thick, and rests on its stem, impressing the farmers. Through them He enrages the disbelievers. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good deeds forgiveness and a great reward.

I CAN'T BE YOUR BRO BECAUSE YOU HATE NON-MUSLIMS?.

The hadiths that you quote, is it against the Qur'an that you don't have deals with non-muslims?

The hadiths never contradicts the Qur'an that says you should be ruthless towards non-muslims. Surah 48:29:

Muḥammad is the Messenger of Allah. And those with him are firm with the disbelievers and compassionate with one another. You see them bowing and prostrating ˹in prayer˺, seeking Allah’s bounty and pleasure. The sign ˹of brightness can be seen˺ on their faces from the trace of prostrating ˹in prayer˺. This is their description in the Torah. And their parable in the Gospel is that of a seed that sprouts its ˹tiny˺ branches, making it strong. Then it becomes thick, standing firmly on its stem, to the delight of the planters—in this way Allah makes the believers a source of dismay for the disbelievers. To those of them who believe and do good, Allah has promised forgiveness and a great reward.

smokinloud:
Qur'an 60:8 was given prior to Qur'an chapter 9. The Qur'an chapter 9 told you to start persecuting non-muslims even if they don't attack you first. Surah 9 is the last major revelation of Muhammad before he died.
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلَا يَقْرَبُوا الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَٰذَا ۚ وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةً فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ اللَّهُ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ إِنْ شَاءَ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ28 O you who believe! The polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach the Sacred Mosque AFTER THIS YEAR of theirs. And if you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you from His grace, if He wills. Allah is Aware and Wise.
٢٩ قَاتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor abide by the religion of truth—from among those who received the Scripture—until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.

allah commands you to kill non-muslims in the latter revelations which abrogates the previous. IF YOU UNDERSTOOD ISLAM YOU'D KNOW IT'S FRAUD. MUHAMMAD RECEIVED REVELATION IN MECCA, HE START PREACHING ABOUT PEACE WITH THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS, HE TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS THAT WHEN THEY GET TO MEDINAH, THE CITY OF THE JEWS, THEY'LL ACCEPT HIM AS THE LAST PROPHET PROPHESIED IN THE BIBLE BUT THE JEWS REJECTED HIM AND HE BECAME HOSTILE TOWARDS JEWS AND ORDER THE ANNIHILATION OF THE JEWS BUT SAID GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE CHRISTIANS HOPING THEY'D ACCEPT HIM BUT THEN HE WENT TO THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY AND THEY REJECTED HIM SO HE GAVE REVELATIONS HOW THAT CHRISTIANS ARE ALLIES WITH THE JEWS AND DESERVED TO BE ANNIHILATED TOO.

O believers! Indeed, the polytheists are ˹spiritually˺ impure, so they should not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year. If you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you out of His bounty, if He wills. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, nor comply with what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor embrace the religion of truth from among those who were given the Scripture, until they pay the tax, willingly submitting, fully humbled.

The command to fight the polytheists is not for the purpose of forcing them to enter Islam, otherwise the Jews, Christians and others would have been forced to enter Islam whenever the Muslims defeated them and they came under their authority. But it is well known to anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the history of Islam that this did not happen, because the Jews and Christians continued to live under the authority of the Muslim state, and they enjoyed religious freedom

Rather what is meant by fighting is two things:

1.. Fighting those who want to attack the Muslims in their own lands, and to spread the influence of disbelief and its followers in the Muslim lands. This is Jihad in defence of Muslim territory, and it is something that has occurred in every nation and state known to history, no matter what their religion, otherwise there would be no state and no authority at all.

2.. Fighting those who bar people from the religion of Allah and prevent the Muslims from calling people to the religion of their Lord and spreading His light so that it may be seen by anyone who seeks guidance, or they prevent non-Muslims from learning about this religion or entering it if they want to. This is jihad in pursuit of the enemy. Both types of jihad are prescribed in Islamic teachings.

That is also indicated by the report which was proven from Buraydah, who said: When the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) appointed commanders for an army or expedition, he would advise them to fear Allah, may He be exalted, and to be good to those of the Muslims who were under their command. Then he said: “… When you meet your enemy among the polytheists, offer them three options, and whichever one they choose, accept it from them and refrain from (fighting) them. Invite them to Islam and if they respond, then accept it from them and refrain from (fighting) them. Then invite them to migrate from their land. … If they refuse, then ask them to pay jizyah. If they respond, then accept it from them and refrain from (fighting) them. If they refuse that, then seek the help of Allah and fight them….

Narrated by Muslim (1731).

smokinloud:
Bro, Khamenei is a muslim. The supreme leader of Iran. He quoted the Qur'an to support his stance that muslims are commanded to hate non-muslims. Surah 48:29:

مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ۚ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ أَشِدَّاءُ عَلَى الْكُفَّارِ رُحَمَاءُ بَيْنَهُمْ ۖ تَرَاهُمْ رُكَّعًا سُجَّدًا يَبْتَغُونَ فَضْلًا مِنَ اللَّهِ وَرِضْوَانًا ۖ سِيمَاهُمْ فِي وُجُوهِهِمْ مِنْ أَثَرِ السُّجُودِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ مَثَلُهُمْ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ ۚ وَمَثَلُهُمْ فِي الْإِنْجِيلِ كَزَرْعٍ أَخْرَجَ شَطْأَهُ فَآزَرَهُ فَاسْتَغْلَظَ فَاسْتَوَىٰ عَلَىٰ سُوقِهِ يُعْجِبُ الزُّرَّاعَ لِيَغِيظَ بِهِمُ الْكُفَّارَ ۗ وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ مِنْهُمْ مَغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًا29 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. Those with him are stern against the disbelievers, yet compassionate amongst themselves. You see them kneeling, prostrating, seeking blessings from Allah and approval. Their marks are on their faces from the effects of prostration. Such is their description in the Torah, and their description in the Gospel: like a plant that sprouts, becomes strong, grows thick, and rests on its stem, impressing the farmers. Through them He enrages the disbelievers. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good deeds forgiveness and a great reward.

smokinloud:
The only source to your claim that the Jews said they killed Jesus is the Qur'an. The Qur'an lacks credibility, it came 600 years after the event. The Romans actually crucified him on the accusations of the Sanhedrin (not the entire Jewish population).

smokinloud:
The Qur'an verse that Khamenei quoted misrepresent Islam?!. You can attempt to refute my point. Let's see who is delusional.The Talmud is not a law that govern anybody. Israel is governed by secular laws and besides the Talmud never say bad things about goyim except the ones fabricated by muslims.

smokinloud:
1. The Jews didn't have power to met capital punishment on offenders. Their colonial masters have the right. The Sanhedrin( Jewish religious court at the time of Jesus) only had the right to condemn criminals. They don't have the right to judge him.
2. The Romans killed Jesus not the Jews. Jesus first disciples and founders of the church were all Jews and they were bent in converting the world for a Jewish man, Jesus.
3. Jesus Christ the Lord of Muhammad and allah, forgave them even before he was crucified, so who are you to condemn them?!. Luke 23:34
[34]Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Hmmmmm2024:
The throat of ten farmers were sliced open two days ago in sokoto...I didn't see your post condemning that barbaric act...but you traveled across the Mediterranean to support terrorists... abandoning those your brothers who lived in your backyard to die in the hands of your elder brothers

Arrowhead71:
you are just like your others fools who would not direct their anger towards Hamas that is lunching rockets from their homes filled with their families, hiding anywhere and everywhere to shoot at IDF without consideration of their wives and children around them , may be you don’t know that even women and children are indoctrinated in Arab countries to carry guns to shoot at those they considered as infidel, my sister who was in Lebanon said every house are loaded with weapons and their women carry guns as handbag , so stop displaying your emotional ignorance on Nairaland

DeOTR:
We know the Jews killed Jesus Christ. It's been prophesied a thousand or more years before that. It's a fulfillment of a prophecy and we as Christians don't have any issues with Jews.
Now can you tell us why Muslims are always a scourge anywhere they find themselves?

Sultanofpiglets:
Every time babies and women. So the men are not humans .?

Let me tell you for free ..

Israel will not fall for your Propaganda...NEVER.

Let that sink in as the Israeli army moves to eradicate useless terrorist from the lives of peaceful civilians.I support Israel 1000000000% .

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smokinloud:
Muslim generally don't have respect for anyone's religion sacred place, because they believe anyone who's not a muslim is a lesser human, an infidel and a filth. Their Qur'an says Christians and Jews are descendants of apes, donkeys and pigs. Under the Shari'a Christians and Jews are filthy same as pigs are filthy. When a Jew passes a lone path with muslims the Jews had to be driven back and allow muslim man to pass because he's filthy. That's why no non-muslim is allowed into Mecca because Mecca is believed to be a holy site where Christians and Jews can dirty with their filth.

Botragelad:
These folks always spreading their rubbish and being nuisances. If you think there's a genocide going on in Gaza, you need to get your head sorted. Taking out terrorists and their mates isn't genocide, it's just getting the job done. If you wanna have a cry about it, be my guest. We're not fussed.

Everyone should be grateful to Israel for keeping civilian casualties to a minimum. If it were some other country with no rules, they'd have flattened the whole of Palestine/ Palestinians Arab occupiers by now and starved them into submission. But Israel's playing by the book.

So, here's the thing, I'm going to repeat it: all the protests and noise in the world won't stop Israel from defending itself. If civilians wanna be martyrs for terrorists, then Israel will just get on with it. The bombing's gonna keep going, and Palestine's just a fake concept that needs to be shut down.

Am yisreal chai 🇮🇱!

Zonefree:
Israel is on a journey to exterminate Muslims from the surface of the earth.

May the force be with them.

chrisxxx:
The funny thing is that they don't stay there to shout those mantras. It is pre-recorded. The person playing it might be sleeping. I got to know this when I was in Kwara State.

NgwalandAbia:
Are you stupid or mad..which region rank below your brown roof bread lining poverty stricken région.
https://www.nairaland.com/8253604/jago-villagers-oyo-celebrate-first

You must be one of them yeye things.

motymop:
The language you are typing with

Who brought it?

The primary school and the university you went to, who brought the idea

The cloth you are wearing, obviously western, who brought it

The concept of living in a house and not a hut, who brought the concept

Thanks to colonization

NgwalandAbia:
I only feel bad that they helped Federal government to fight the Biafrans and also joining us With brainless mofos that should be shining our shoes today from North to south west if by if they would've been giving Visa on humanitarian ground.

Ijaya123:
Good one.

I just wonder why some people can be sympathetic to terrorists just because of religion. That’s really pathetic!

Maybe they forget that terrorists don’t discriminate between religions when they carry out their attacks.

For better understanding, did you know that there are more Muslim-Isrealis that Christian-Isrealis. About twice the Christian population.

Kelp supporting evil all in the name of religion.



The only people carrying out unprovoked attack in that region are the terrorists Hamas, Hezbolla and other extremist in Syria.

Any right thinking person should support Isreal in wiping out those animals from the face of the earth.

I still put it to anyone to point to me when Isreali attacked Iran before yesterday rockets attacks into Isreali

misreal:
You are the ignorant one to think that Palestine is three thousand years old.
You are just making yourself believe a lie.
When you are ready to be schooled on this issue,humble yourself and ask me properly.
Then I will school you very well.
It's not about shouting and raining insults.
Humble yourself.

ABANGWABOI:
Ndi Fulàni herdsmen ragbuo Nne gi ...
Anúmánû..
Your Móthér na wasted 9 months.. Werey

misreal:
Lamba..
So Moses was a Palestine ba?..
You are proudly ignorant or just plain stupid..
How can a word that is barely 200 years old be as old as 3000yrs.
You are not stupid,but ignorant.

ABANGWABOI:
Your useless Móthér na scum ...
Thunda Faya your M0thèr smelly ToTo..
Onikure

misreal:
Kai.
See lamba.
Thank God you said the Jews originally owned the land.
Dats all.

Scientific evidence shows that current Palestinians have been living in Palestine for more than 3,700 years.

A TEDx talk by Jewish genomicist Nathan Pearson. pic.twitter.com/A0Jx8ot8sg

— Lotfi GHAZOUANI (@Lotfi_Ghazouani) April 9, 2024

Ewedegubbler:
Taking what belongs to your father is not land grabbing. Tell me, how did those people get to own the land that Israel grabbed in the first place ?

misreal:
By your own logic,Israel too can be called resistance because that land originally belonged to the Jews.
Check the quran,the land was made mentioned of to belong to the Jews.
So it means,the Palestine are the real land grabbers.
By your logic oh!!

adanny01:
You are a pillager literally

misreal:
Then by your logic,the decades of Israeli oppression is justified by the 1948 attack on Israel and the constant suicide bombing of Israel by Palestine in the early 2000s..