₦airaland Forum

Tinubu is a failure.
Nigeria has never had it this bad since inception.

Tinubu must go. At this point, a mannequin is more effective than that bloke

lilsmart:
You are absolutely right that the government bears the sole constitutional duty to secure lives, and the church's humanitarian work is commendable. My point is simply that in a failing state, any institution that visibly flaunts immense wealth risks altering the security calculus for all its members, often with the most vulnerable bearing the unintended consequences. True progress requires holding both our leaders and our institutions to a higher standard of awareness and responsibility.

Out of curiosity isn't it time the church moved from just offering aid after tragedy, to using its power and wealth to solve the root problems and prevent the tragedies altogether?
Stop treating symptoms start solving the disease

Humor me. How exactly do you want the church to address insecurity issues? Procure arms for members? Import drones? Start a militia? Start executing terrorists?

Daggash98:
What else you want them to do? To be inline with the clueless government? That is the best ADC could do.

I said APC not ADC, chief.

Salewa97:
The ADC should be serious for once.

How many times have they called out Trump for his reckless statements about Nigeria's security?

When Tinubu was making reckless statements and calling for Jonathan's resignation, nobody said anything ooo.

APC will NEVER take responsibility. Always shifting blames.

A failed organization, through and through.

lilsmart:
This one go long

Thank you for your perspective. Let me address your points directly and logically, without emotion.

First, you state that I missed the point totally and that this is about hatred for pastors. This is not about hatred it is about Accountability and cause and effect. The core argument is simple: when any institution (church or otherwise) publicly flaunts immense wealth in a society plagued by poverty and crime, it logically becomes perceived as a High Value Target. it's a basic principle of security and risk.

Second, you correctly say the church is not the government and pastors are not your president. This is not an either/or situation it is a both/and situation. We can, and must, demand that the government fulfills its primary duty to secure lives.(See biblical quotes for reference below )

Finally, you ask for the correlation between pastors and kidnapping. The correlation is economic incentive. If kidnappers believe an organization has vast, readily available funds (a perception reinforced by the public display of wealth by its leaders), they are more likely to target its members to extort those funds. The suffering falls on the poor members because they are the accessible targets, while the leadership is insulated by security.


Nathan to King David (2 Samuel 12:1-14): After David committed adultery with Bathsheba and had her husband killed, the prophet Nathan did not remain silent. He directly confronted the king, famously declaring, "You are the man!"


Elijah to King Ahab (1 Kings 18:16-18; 21:17-24): Elijah repeatedly confronted King Ahab for leading Israel into idolatry and for judicial murder. He did not say, "The king is the authority, so I must be quiet." He declared, "You have abandoned the Lord’s commands and have followed the Baals."

John the Baptist to King Herod (Matthew 14:3-4): John publicly condemned Herod for his immoral marriage, saying, "It is not lawful for you to have her." For this, he was imprisoned and beheaded, demonstrating the cost of speaking truth to power.

Jeremiah 22:3: This is a direct word to the king: "This is what the Lord says: Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of the oppressor the one who has been robbed. Do no wrong or violence to the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow." This is a divine job description for a government, and the prophet was the one delivering the performance review.


This is not fake rhetoric. It is a critical analysis of how different sectors of our society contribute to a complex crisis. We are all entitled to our opinions, and mine is that solving our problems requires holding everyone, not just the government, to a standard of responsibility.

Thank you for replying. Now, my own perspective:

If you have followed the unfortunate trend of kidnapping by those demons, you'd see that they have never tried to attack any "rich" church. Not once. They are always attacking the poor churches. Many times, they don't even ask for ransom. Just attack, kill, go, leaving a trail of bodies in their wake.

I have not heard of one mega church being attacked, and their members taken for ransom.

Furthermore, the church's primary responsibility is NOT ransom paying. Mind you, the church is not obligated to pay ransom for every member that is kidnapped. If the church does that, she has lost her focus.

What should we do? Hold the government accountable. The government is meant to defend lives and properties of citizens. That's their job. That's their role.

Juxtaposing the church's role and the government's role is a dishonest effort.

Besides, we'd both agree that the church has done way more for Nigeria than the government ever has. During COVID, my church gave members foodstuff. Even Muslims benefited immensely. What did your government do? They used your tax to buy houses abroad.

Winners Chaple as always sent aids monthly to refugee camps in the north. What has your government done? They have bargained with terrorists.

Same winners chapel in Ota has tried several times to fix roads and that dilapidated bridge but the government says NO. Give us the money or leave it be.

Christ Embassy has a free, world class hospital for all. Your resident doctors have been on strike for 3 weeks and counting.

I could go on and on. But I hope you get my point. The role of the church is independent of the government. They might overlap, sometimes, but we shouldn't absolve the govt of her responsibilities.

Lastly, let's focus all energies on telling the govt to fix up!!!

lilsmart:
And now, let this be the moment all those top men of God the Bishops, Apostles, and Reverends who have built empires on the offerings of the people prove their divine calling. You have amassed great wealth from your congregations, often untaxed and unaccounted for, all in the name of building the house of God. Well, a part of His house has been violently stolen, and His worshippers are priced at a hundred million naira each.

This is not the time for prayers alone it is the time for the greatest offering you will ever give. Open the vaults you say are meant for God's work and use that wealth to literally redeem the lives of His people. Since you have made yourselves the custodians of both the spiritual and financial life of your flock, then you must now be the ones to lead the charge in paying this ransom. There is no more direct work of God than this.

Make i hit the nail on the head.
When pastors and churches constantly flaunt their wealth buying private jets and exotic cars they are essentially painting a giant target on their congregations. They are advertising the church as a lucrative financial institution, not just a place of worship.

The most painful part is that it is the poor, faithful members who will suffer for this ostentation. The wealthy pastors are already shielded by tight police and private security. So, the kidnappers will logically target the vulnerable, everyday worshippers. They become the pawns because the criminals now believe the church has the money to pay. The poor are used as human ATMs, and their suffering is the price of their leaders' vanity.

Critical thinking everyone is entitled to his/her opinion

You missed the point TOTALLY. Your hatred for pastors made you pen an off point epistle that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

The church is not the government. Pastors are not your president.

What's even the correlation between pastors and kidnapping? Nah. You goofed. Big time.

Face your government and tell them to squash insecurity across board

All these fake rhetorics will not work.

Tinubu is a capital failure.

The Razak Okoya boys mutilated the naira and you invited them. Evil people, EFCC.

Can pardon terrorists but is sentencing Kanu to life imprisonment. Buhari shall rot in peace.

But they jailed Ms Comfort.

Idiots.

noleflendum:
50 years imprisonment
Anything less than that Zoo will burn

Let them imprison terrorists , murderers, and political thieves first.

A country that pampers terrorists but punishes freedom fighters is NOT going anywhere.

Buhari, may you rot in peace. Were man

So if there was no social media backlash, Tinubu had zero intentions of appointing ambassadors?

This man is a fantastic failure

Anything they defend is TRUE!

This guy should be in jail. Sebi they jailed Miss Comfort for constituting a nuisance on the plane!

This one should first go and sit down.
He is a spineless loser. He fought on a plane. He's supposed to be bundled to Kirikiri like they did that poor lady.

Osiris12:
e go really take international efforts to push tinubu out

Make we dey look nau.

SisterAnn:
You mean his own Inec? Lol

Na very useless fellow

Your sadness doesn't mean Jack

Tell your husband to resign.

Helinus, pakute, trutharena, mannaqqbgrills and all ye other sympathizers. Come and drop your comments!

Ijaya123:
And if he resigns, Shettima takes over.

And we are good, right?

Plus Tinubu, plus shettima, plus Akpabio, every one of them should be evicted. Asap.

I wish INEC could conduct presidential elections TOMORROW.

We will gladly vote the failure and all his cronies out of office.

Bunch of terrorist enablers.

Jayhome24:
Did you read the content of the thread at all? Go back and read the first paragraph of the contents then come back here.

You guys don't reason at all you just think if even Tinubu resign you think your Lamba chief will be call upon to become the president ba? Dey play.

Let me educate you proper in as far Gej our brother didn't resign for chibok girl snd Abuja bombing then pls keep quiet.

In as far with the deadly genocide under buhari and he didn't resign then pls keep shut.

And let me burst your bubble deeper if Tinubu resign today(which will never hapen) Sheba is your next presiden and you know what that mean to the North? They have grab the power back to them, the entie North will queue behinnd him and the jihadddist will now finally relocate to Nigeria from all over the world, your obi will never smell aso rock we have told you severally with the arrangement on ground and the North Power drink maniac so pls mechionu and rest.

Save your baseless rantings for someone else.

O jebi ooo.

Good riddance!

Tinubu would rather see the country burn than to resign. A failure.

Putindbutt:
A disgraced man with a feminine voice, cry from now till 2099, You will never become President.

Focus on the message, my gee. Stop pandering to evil politicians.

He didn't say anything out of place, did he?
Tinubu has disgraced Nigeria internationally.

He has become worse than everything he ever criticized. A failure through and through.

If he knows what's best for him, he should just resign and spend the rest of his days in Iragbiji, tending to Seyi's children.

Dogalmighty17:
I think Pastor Enenche needs to actually hide his head in shame and I am not saying this because of any ulterior motive.

Sharrap! Barawo