Sweetnecta: @pointblank 123: first, the Quran is unlike any book of religion. it is not a once upon a time storyteller. all of its words is from Allah. and the word Iqra has many meaning based on its contextual usage. a reciter of Quran is called Qari, a derivative of IQRA. a recited part/portion is Qirat. Iqra can also mean proclaim. So Iqra is not just read, always. But it is also recite, proclaim.

and as to the verses not being in order of revelation is an attestation to the miracle of the book. before it was a book, it was named a book based on chapter 2 verse 2.In spite of the arrangements, each word, verse, chapter, flows perfectly to the other that you could not have had a better arrangement. every chapter flows from the chapter before it and flows to the chapter after it. i hope you know that this book is not a once upon a time storyteller book, like the others.


God taught man speech. God taught man how to write, read. Or is there anything useful in your life that you taught yourself and God is not The True Teacher?


reading, writing by pen was not addressed only to Muhammad [sa] about God, but addressing mankind in general telling them as affirmation that God is The Teacher of those things [reading, penmanship, etc including knowledge] man find useful. Read the verses and notice that they talk about mankind, believers and non believers and not just Muhammad [sa]

Hi tbaba, I don't want to go into much argument with you so that you will not conlude I am putting your religion in ridicule.

I believe the purpose of this type of debate is to help ourselves discover the truth and take the right decision. It is not a must to be or remain in a religion if it is not the truth for the sake of life in eternity. We should not love our religion more than our soul.

It is only for the purpose of argument that you can interpret 'reading' to mean the samething as 'recitation'. Everybody knows there is a world of difference anywhere in the world.

''Who taught (to write) with pen''. It is true this statement was not meant for Muhammad alone. But is also true that it included him too. Therefore the question remains - Was Muhammad able to read and write after Allah has taught him? If not, Allah told a lie here.

Can the True God lie? If lie/s is found in a verse of the Quran, how are we sure other verses are not lies as well? How is it without errors and discripancy?

I leave the rest to you people.








if there is an error, let us know. God taught man speech. recitation is a speech form. Reading is a speech form. Singing is a speech form.


before god created man, man was nothing. if you say man was dirt and that means something to you, please realize that God created dirt and before that there was no dirt, hence man was nothing.

bigmanahmad: WHEN A NON MUSLIM PRESENT US WITH A QUESTION, IT MAY BE THAT HE WANTS TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE OR IT MAY ALSO BE THAT HE WANTS TO RIDICULE OUR DEEN...WHAT EVER HIS INTENTIONS MAY BE (GOOD OR BAD), LET US ALL KEEP IN MIND THIS VERSE OF THE GLORIOUS QUR'AN;

The good deed and the evil deed cannot be equal. Repel (the evil) with one which is better (i.e. Allah ordered the faithful believers to be patient at the time of anger, and to excuse those who treat them badly), then verily! he, between whom and you there was enmity, (will become) as though he was a close friend. (41;34)

WHO KNOWS MAY BE TRUTHMAN MAY BE GUIDED THROUGH HIS CURIOSITY (ALTHOUGH IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THIS QUESTION DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WHAT A CURIOUS PERSON WOULD ASK)...
@TRUTHMAN and others....salam alaykum