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Dude breath na wa oo, well if they are rare or not popular why don't you open thread about Hausa pagan festivals?
Just being curious or the all land has been islamized

Too bad, Hausa pagan festivals dont exist

OlaoChi: Where's the human life? The unborn child? I agree that the child is human but then what is wrong with preventing a child from suffering in this cruel world?


If I was a Christian, I would abort everything because I can't let a child come and live in a useless world when he could still end up in hell.
You think those in hell wouldn't regret being born?
Think about it, it's better to not be born than be born and end up in your hell.

YoYour analogy doesn't make sense, hell is a choice and there is a way to avoid it , as a Christian you know what to do or not do in order to go in heaven.

Everything is wrong with, who are you decide who must live and who must not?

Complete this question: it is good to kill a human being in the womb when ?

Are you aware that Christianity reached Africa before the colonization?

As for the topic sorry for my Congo brothers they met the wrong guys, fake Christians. The so called missionaries were not true christians , God will judge them, meanwhile congo should ask for reparations

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]The Brahminical castes and Rajput-Kshatriya Tribes belong to the Aryan Ethnic group.

your christianity is mumu. dumbarse stop insulting! fuktard.

read what I wrote before. Buddhism is not exactly a religion by itself, since it does not deal with Gods. By itself it is a philosophy and spiritual concept, but complemented with the ethnic religion (belief in Gods, etc.), it becomes a religion.

It will belong to the Han Chinese and Hakka ethnic groups, who are the major Chinese followers of Buddhism-CTR.

Among the Tibetans, it will be Buddhism-Bon.[/quote]You should forward this comment to foly because that's basically what I have been saying here; I know you are trying to sugar coat but Buddhism ain't a religion and has nothing to do with paganism. Buddhism and taoism teachings were given as advices for the chinese people, it has more to do with philosophy than anything.
And from what you said one can b Buddhist and christian @ the same time

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Olosi. Oloriburuku. fukard.


I aint answering you, unless you stop insulting.



Macof, FOLYKASE, dont answer the dude. He is mental , unreasonable and abusive.

LEt him first stop the abuse. [/quote]Dude you are the one who started abusing jesus and christians, calling us names . Now you are crying? Lol okay no more insults

Okay no more insults .

FOLYKAZE: I agree you don't know what paganism is. So lets help.

Paganism is a belief and activities of a group professing a polytheistic religion or pantheistic nature worshipping religion other than Abrahamic faith.

Another dictionary put Pagan as Heathen.

So Pagan is an adherent of a religion other than Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.

China is a buddhism, taoism (Daoism) and Hinduism making 94% of the populace. Christian made 3%-4% while Muslim made 1%-2%.

I knew you were using the size of the population of each faith unfortunately you can't see further than your nose . Again is Nigeria a Muslim state?

China calls itself atheist country , they never declared Buddhism or whatever as their state religion, they never declared any pagan religion as Their state religion so what makes China a ppagan country?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]What bullsh!t are you ranting jor? Do you even care to read what we post?

This is getting annoying.

Chinese religion is part of their culture and "being" Chinese. you dont get it. *smh



I dont think so. I doubt its serious.
That would be a step backwards.



True. and going by that logic, none of the Pagan religions are religions. They are all "ways of life".[/quote]Keep doubting olodo ,they are seeing the light.

Your theories don't make any sense , so the fact ifa is Yoruba culture means Nigeria is an ifa-pagan state?
You can practice your culture and still being a Christian duh , tho with Time we will teach them how to b good Christian

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]The China is a Pagan Nation argument has been put to a rest. Read my recent previous post.

1) Tribe or Ethnic Group.

2) True.

3)Buddhism is an Indo_Aryan religion. Infact, in the true sense, Buddhism is a sect from Hinduism.
As I explained earlier, Buddhism is a philosophy that is separate from a peoples indeigenous religions.

Buddhism is complex in that it incorporates the devatas/Gods of the people that follow it. Usually in the form such as Indian Buddhists will use Hindu Gods, Chinese Buddhists will worship Chinese Shen/Gods, Japanese Buddhists will incorporate Shinto Gods.

Buddhism doesnt give clear explanations for Gods, and deals mainly with Spirituality and righteous living and meditation, etc.

Buddhism therfore complements Pagan religions wherever it is practiced. (except for New Age white people claiming Buddhism. they are not doing it right.)[/quote]I asked the tribe this is like saying ifa is African or negroid of course it is but still it belongs to Yoruba.

So again mumu Buddhism belongs to which tribe in China?

@,foly stop worshiping stones you becoming sillier day by day .

Who is budha for Chinese? He's not seen as a God nor as a prophet.

Maybe you meant India yes they are pagans and we see ho backward they are

Them being anti christian or Muslim doesn't make them pagan, like I said if anything they are atheist.

Btw the christian population in China is growing esp the Catholic one , go check YouTube I'm actually on my phone , so I can't post videos unfortunately. Your Chinese are getting more and more open .
I know how Chinese see religion this is why I said Buddhism and Taoism are like philosophy/way of life for them and they don't see it as religion.

FOLYKAZE: Buddhism is not a religion? No God....pls what are the devas, pilgrimage and temples for? Erm the sacred scripture is not a making it a religion again?

Chai. Your ignorance and adamancy is alarming.

You are a tool .

Let me expose the stupidity of your claim.

You guys said China is a pagan nation . I say no it is the biggest lie ever .

1) macof and pagan ; have said several times on this forum that paganism is always affiliated with a tribe

2 ) pagan said we are all pagans as Long you are born into a tribe your paganism is the paganism of your tribe

The question is : to which tribe budhism belongs to ? The answer is none how can budhism b a pagan religion then ? Fools

@ folyklaze call it the way you want religion or not bottom line is budhism has nothing to do with paganism

FOLYKAZE: Where did I say Nigeria is a christian only or muslim only nation? This your lying tactic cant help.

I repeat define Pagan or tell us you don't know so that we help.

The rest you have there is crap

I said going by your logic , you claimed China is a pagan nation prove it

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]dude China is communist. not entirely atheist. Even the most atheistic Chinese knows better to follow traditions.

"Pagan" is an English word. Most Chinese have never even heard of it. They cant even speak proper English.

To them Chinese Spirituality is part of their daily activities.

Watch Jackie Chan movies. Even a guy like Jackie Chan is Pagan. Though he doesnt call himself Pagan. It means nothing to them.

They will either say Buddhist, Taoist, or something like that. OR they will just say undefined.

Organized religion does not mean anything to the average Chinese, except maybe to the small muslim Uyghur minorities or pockets of christian groups.[/quote]So you know better than them ? Ekwensu

Chinese don't want to b associated with your likes . They are muslims ughur
They are Christians
They are atheists

Dude stop taking philosophy for religion , budha and tao never claimed being inspired by God and their followers don't see it as religions

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]says the whiner who has no answer. . [/quote]Dude we are done with you, stop dancing around you should go and hide your face in shame, your beloved leader is an Arabs slave an Arabs azz kisser , who bends over and shakes his mumu azz five times a day in direction of Arabs land can you beat that..and this dude is preaching paganism on Nl when his own backyard is own fire . ufiakTufiakwa useless coward
Say hi to mumu sarakin

FOLYKAZE: Buddhism is not a pagan religion? My goodness. Someone do not know what paganism is.

I ask you again. Define paganism.




Hinduism, Taoism and some devotion in buddhism. Define paganism and let me show you.




Nigeria is a theocratic nation divided by the Northern Islam majority and Southern christians majority.


Do you know what state religion is?

mumu if anything China is an atheist nation.



So after saying they are pagan this dude asks me to define paganism lmao . Go and tell to a Chinese tha he's a pagan .

My friend stop talking with both sides of your mouth , Nigeria is one entity ,going by your logic we are a Muslim nation.period this simply means that your logic is flawed because Nigeria is not a muslim population. So whether most Chinese are pagans )which is false) ornnot(which is more probable) China is not a pagan nation . Do you even know what's communism means?

fr3do: Obama's administration is more anti-christian than anti-religion

some people call him the antechrist

psalm68:
i wonder what the obama administration is heading to with this obamacare.
Really i dont see its as a persecution to catholism but an anti-religious crusade that is mostly targeted towards christianity as a whole.

. True, his same administration listed some protestants-evangelical Christians and Catholicism as terrorist organizations for their stances on homosexuality and abortion. Can you imagine? Does he know how many Americans will starve and live without shelter if the holy catholic church decides to stop her activities in the USA?

Well Obama should know that Christians are warriors

@ ifeness Comon sense

davidylan: Oh brilliant. The catholic institutions are simply going to kick non-Catholics out of their jobs? Great. Listen, the US is not a theocracy... It is a society that by law is meant to represent both the religious and the atheist.

Catholic institutions belong to the holy Vatican.

BTW no one is going to kick them, we are not going to renew their contracts, that's all as for non catholics who want to remain with us , they are going to sign a document which allows us not to cover or take care of their sterilization, abortion, contraception rubbish. We aint bending our beliefs for anyone.

davidylan: Awww the US is simply insisting that catholic institutions cannot impose their religious inclinations on non-catholic employees by ensuring they have equal access to health insurance that provides free contraceptives to women and THAT is your idea of "persecution"? Puhlease.

yes .

I hope his useless administration is ready to provide jobs for those non catholics .

As usual , Catholics are left alone in the fight for christians rights .

Obama more powerful people tried before you .a word is enough for the wise

U.S. asks top court not to extend Catholics' contraception exemption

By Lawrence Hurley WASHINGTON | Fri Jan 3, 2014 2:05pm EST

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By Lawrence Hurley

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government asked the Supreme Court on Friday not to allow Roman Catholic-affiliated groups a temporary exemption from a part of the Obamacare healthcare law that requires employers to provide insurance policies covering contraception.

On Tuesday night, Justice Sonia Sotomayor had granted a temporary injunction preventing the government from enforcing the so-called "contraception mandate" against the Little Sisters of the Poor and Christian Brothers Services while litigation continues.

In its filing on Friday, the government said the groups have no legal basis to file the lawsuit because the insurance plan in question is a "church plan," which the government has already acknowledged it cannot force to provide contraception coverage.

Little Sisters of the Poor is a Baltimore-based order of nuns that runs nursing homes across the country. Christian Brothers Services administers healthcare plans for Catholic organizations.

Now that the court has received the government's filing, it will decide whether to extend the injunction while the case continues in lower courts. There is no deadline for court action, and Sotomayor can make the decision herself or refer it to the whole court, in which case all nine justices will decide.

The case coincides with the expansion this year of coverage under the 2010 Obamacare law, the most sweeping U.S. social legislation in 50 years.

The religious organizations accuse the federal government of forcing them to support contraception and sterilization in violation of their religious beliefs or face steep fines.

'PERMISSION SLIP'

The 2010 Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare, aims to dramatically reduce the number of Americans with no health insurance, estimated by the government at more than 45 million.

Republicans oppose the law, and hope their stance gains them seats in November's Congressional elections, especially after glitches with the website used to enroll people in coverage.

The healthcare law requires employers to provide insurance covering preventive services for women, including contraception and sterilization. There is an exception for religious institutions such as houses of worship that mainly serve and employ members of their own faith, but not schools, hospitals and charitable organizations employing people of all faiths.

As a compromise, the administration agreed to an accommodation for non-profits affiliated with religious entities that was finalized in July.

Under the accommodation, eligible non-profits must provide a "self certification", described by one lower court judge as a "permission slip" authorizing insurance companies to provide the coverage. Challengers say that step alone violates their religious rights, regardless of whether employees ultimately receive contraception coverage.

They also point to court papers in which the government has said it is still looking at ways to enforce the contraception mandate against church plan administrators.

In a separate case in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., the government said in a November filing that officials "continue to consider potential options to fully and appropriately extend the consumer protections provided by the preventive services coverage regulations to self-insured church plans."

A federal judge in Colorado, William Martinez, denied the plaintiffs' request for an injunction on December 27. The Denver-based 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals followed suit on Dec 31, prompting the last minute plea to the Supreme Court.

Throughout the country, Catholic groups are asking the courts to exempt them temporarily from the mandate while litigation continues. Most courts have granted the requests. The mandate, which was due to take effect for the organizations on Wednesday, is already in place for many women who have private health insurance.

In separate cases, the Supreme Court already has agreed to hear oral arguments on whether for-profit corporations have the basis to object to the contraception mandate on religious grounds. The court is due to hear the arguments in March and decide the two consolidated cases by the end of June.

Catholics persecuted in the USA. See him trying to influence the decision of the court.

http://catholicplaces.org/

^ for people interested in pilgrimage and Catholics holy places . I read a lot on our holy places tho.

Syncan: You'll hadly find a site deemed holy by catholics without a church present there. The churches are built most often to commemorate the event.

As per the things from palestine anf israel, they are not sacramentals if they are not "sacramentals". They are simply souvenirs, leave whoever wants to identify with the birthplace of our lord to do so in whatever way is pleasing to him. People do crazy things for love, we don't get mad at them, intent is key here. It matters not how they see christians, it pleased the lord to trod that land.

...and sorry, you are wrong, there is indulgence attached to some pilgrimages, so the church encourages it.

Indulgence as in ? And where ? Any pilgrimage or there is a specific place where Catholic needs to go ?

Oya okay oo I said nothing

FOLYKAZE: Do you know what pagan is?

Where is the population statistics that shows Catholic in China are more than pagans there? And when did China or Japan become christian or Islamic nation?

This guy is a daft

you are a dunce, and don't dare call Buddhism a pagan religion.

Olodo tell us what makes China a pagan nation?
Look whos I. Calling me daft, i guess Nigeria is a muslim/Islamic nation right? Mumu

[quote author=Okija_juju][b]I guess you are left with only one choice... PRETEND IN FRONT OF HER..

In my case, I was born into a Christian home, raised a Christian, my Dad became a pastor at some point, I also later became "born again" and started preaching and doing all that Christian stuff until one day... I slept woke up and read the bible and it all just stopped making any sense to me.. The more I tried, the less sense it made. I contacted a pastor and had a discussion that turned into a debate. He ended up telling me I was possessed by a demon.. prayer started to feel really silly to me, speaking in tongues started sounded like lunacy. In fact, everything just fell apart.. I was not influenced by friends or anything, I arrived here on my own.

Now my mum has basically given up on me.. My dad would not talk about it. My siblings are indifferent. My wife is neither for it nor does she stress me about it.

So all I do is go to church with my Dad whenever I visit. I avoid religious conversations with them or around them. I pray with them and do whatever's it is that pleases them. The fact that I am who I am does not mean I can't respect their feelings and way of life. None of us really know the answers to life..

So my guy, pretend when around them. That's my advice.


_{Thank me later.. The gods are wise..}[/b][/quote]So what are you now? An atheist or a pagan?

Bump

*yawns*

How many times are we going to talk about this and have the same topic on the FP ?