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abduleez1:
Zatanna gets her movie!

It's official. Director of critically acclaimed "Promising Young Woman" writes the script.



Later person go waka come talk say Zatanna no popular.

I see what JJ Abrams is trying to do..

He wants to give some characters in Justice League Dark a solo film or series as a way of introducing them before bringing them together for Justice League Dark series...

I hear there's a Constantine show or movie in development and they are looking for a person of color that looks like a Riz Ahmed to play Constantine.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

abduleez1:
Omo BIG REVEALS amidst DC future.

DC will keep playing catch up to Marvel.

There's no cinematic shared universe for DC, it looks like it's just solo films for solo films sake.

No big event to build hype and anticipation.

That is why Marvel will keep winning.
Every movie they make is connected and it's leading up to a much bigger movie or a major saga to be completed.

Like what Marvel did with Infinity Saga.
More than a dozen of their films were connected in such a way to lead up to that Infinity saga.

I wasn't surprised when Captain Marvel did a billion dollars at the box office.
Marvel fooled their fans into thinking that Captain Marvel was a major player in Endgame and all their fans trooped to cinemas because of it.

Every Marvel film is connected to a much bigger storyline and that is why they keep getting big numbers, it's not like all their films are spectacular but they have found a way to capture the attention of the movie goer.

DCEU or DC films is lacking that strategy now.
For now they are just doing solo films for solo films sake.

I can afford to skip Shazam and Birds of Prey and watch only WW84 and The Batman... Try doing that with Marvel.

E go shock you as Matt Reeves Batman trilogy will just be a standalone thing with no connection to DCEU and other characters even with Multiverse and everything.

We may never see another Justice League movie, even a relaunch like James Gunn did with SS, u no go see am with JL, that chapter has closed.

They are using Multiverse to set up black superman and other solo films that not a single soul asked for.

Marvel is setting up a Multiverse saga which started with Wandavision and will be connected to Doctor Strange 2,

Try watching Doctor Strange 2 without seeing Wandavision and see how that works out for you.

Snyderverse was WBs biggest opportunity at creating something as big and as attractive as Infinity Saga.
But the stupid execs don't see the silver lining.
They are blind and naive.

A good exec will order an exclusive big budget HBO Max series or movies for Snyderverse.
Take advantage of the hype and fantastic reception from fans and critics who are desperately asking for more and GIVE THEM MORE.... At the end of the day you will cashout plenty because high demand is already there.

This is an excellent opportunity from a business perspective and it is stupid to turn it down.

DC is competing with Star Wars for who will have the most clueless execs with no regard for fans.

abduleez1:
Zatanna gets her movie!

It's official. Director of critically acclaimed "Promising Young Woman" writes the script.



Later person go waka come talk say Zatanna no popular.

Stop being too excited. This is probably another project that will spend 5 years in development hell.

WB CEO said that they're not continuing with the Snyderverse after the Snyder cut.

This is a massive blow to the franchise imo.

I wanted to see the Ayer cut. And is it just me that likes Leto joker in SS than in ZSJL?

TheKingIsHere:
WB CEO said that they're not continuing with the Snyderverse after the Snyder cut.

This is a massive blow to the franchise imo.

I wanted to see the Ayer cut. And is it just me that likes Leto joker in SS than in ZSJL?

to think we both went at each other for n0thing. WB haven't a clue. Snyder said it, he would love to c0me back but there isn't a chance cause it'll be the same thing all over again. When it c0mes to Wb, am always right.

abduleez1:
I loved the guy also. He's arguably my BEST DC VILLAIN now. I wanted to talk about how I felt his character earlier.

Here's it:↓

You could see the Disdain, the hope for redemption, the dedication, the pain in his eyes and Voice. Damn, if that's not Masterpiece man I don't know what IS, from a CGI character. You could literally feel or see his emotions just looking at his face or eyes.
This is one very few DC movies I'll easily say the CGI trumps Marvel's. They didn't look so CGI'ed.


Anyone noticed how Steppy eyes looked puppy eyed as if he wanted to cry when Desaad condemned him for another 50,000 world's. The guy just gallant, take him fate with pride and dedication.
I kinda felt for him.

spot on. I felt for him. If Zavk ever get to make a JL2 i hope he bleeps De Saad real bad.

charlesm91:
spot on. I felt for him. If Zavk ever get to make a JL2 i hope he bleeps De Saad real bad.

steppy is dead dead though.

BlackManta:
I see what JJ Abrams is trying to do..

He wants to give some characters in Justice League Dark a solo film or series as a way of introducing them before bringing them together for Justice League Dark series...

I hear there's a Constantine show or movie in development and they are looking for a person of color that looks like a Riz Ahmed to play Constantine.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think they're going to run concurrently. Both the series and the solos. I think both the series and movies will share characters and actors together.

Why I think so, Justice League Dark might start production anytime this year. It's intended to be delivered as a new Series on HBOMax for probably 2022.
I think Justice League Dark series will most likely come before the solo movies.

They're introducing everyone they intend to use for Justice League Dark in the TV or movies together, some will show and port over to any of the solo or shows they are needed. This gives them publicity enough to launch a final Justice League Dark Franchise in DCEU as the Big team up movie, replacing the (troubled) Justice League and freeing Justice League members and DCEU of the need to pump in Big crossover events and huge expectations.

That way they maneuver everyone and have a big Franchise spinner on its own, just like Guardians of the Galaxy.

One more possible Franchise spinner for them is Green Lantern Corps. They can easily intertwine between shows and movies as they've got many stories and interesting characters to work with. Depends if DC Films & TV department wants to use what they got on their cards. It is possible, it lies on them if they believe such project can turn profitable for them and fans enthusiasm to support such.

Raalsalghul:
Stop being too excited. This is probably another project that will spend 5 years in development hell.

Lol, I'm an optimist in relation to DC.

Dunno but this doesn't look like that kind of project.
Why? It's evident DCEU needs another big recurrent female character in the Franchise. A character that can anchor a Franchise and carry the franchise to new heights even tho other characters are underperforming.
That's what Wonder Woman has been doing and it's looking too much a weight. And to a lesser extent Harley (only determinant if TSS is good and does well at BO and VOD), problem is she's a VILLAIN. A female one at that.

That's why other female characters are needed.
Marvel now has Black Widow, Scarlet Witch and controversially Captain Marvel to put female faces on the map. They still even expanding with Female Thor(Jane Forster), Ms Marvel and She-Hulk.
DC only got ONE and it ain't encouraging in this age of WOKENESS and feminism, political correctness, diversity and equality.

Main reason why I feel FEMALE characters will most likely be the new push going forward and get more central roles. As such characters like: Zatanna, Batgirl, Supergirl, Black Canary are actively going to be promoted. It's needed whether you like it or not.

Only WB's execution is subject to doubt.
Unless, WB wanna be their usual sef, greenlighting movies only to wait 5-7 years before it comes to fruition, that's if it isn't shelved altogether.

Nothing is impossible tho, Black Adam waited over 10 years to be a reality.

abduleez1:
I think they're going to run concurrently. Both the series and the solos. I think both the series and movies will share characters and actors together.

Why I think so, Justice League Dark might start production anytime this year. It's intended to be delivered as a new Series on HBOMax for probably 2022.
I think Justice League Dark series will most likely come before the solo movies.

They're introducing everyone they intend to use for Justice League Dark in the TV or movies together, some will show and port over to any of the solo or shows they are needed. This gives them publicity enough to launch a final Justice League Dark Franchise in DCEU as the Big team up movie, replacing the (troubled) Justice League and freeing Justice League members and DCEU of the need to pump in Big crossover events and huge expectations.

That way they maneuver everyone and have a big Franchise spinner on its own, just like Guardians of the Galaxy.

One more possible Franchise spinner for them is Green Lantern Corps. They can easily intertwine between shows and movies as they've got many stories and interesting characters to work with. Depends if DC Films & TV department wants to use what they got on their cards. It is possible, it lies on them if they believe such project can turn profitable for them and fans enthusiasm to support such.

Nobody asked for all these crap they are producing or about to produce. Customer is the king: if they haven't learnt any lessons from the poor performances of Shazam, Harley quinn and WW84, then WB is truly ignorant.

BlackManta:
DC will keep playing catch up to Marvel.

There's no cinematic shared universe for DC, it looks like it's just solo films for solo films sake.

No big event to build hype and anticipation.

That is why Marvel will keep winning.
Every movie they make is connected and it's leading up to a much bigger movie or a major saga to be completed.

Like what Marvel did with Infinity Saga.
More than a dozen of their films were connected in such a way to lead up to that Infinity saga.

I wasn't surprised when Captain Marvel did a billion dollars at the box office.
Marvel fooled their fans into thinking that Captain Marvel was a major player in Endgame and all their fans trooped to cinemas because of it.

Every Marvel film is connected to a much bigger storyline and that is why they keep getting big numbers, it's not like all their films are spectacular but they have found a way to capture the attention of the movie goer.

DCEU or DC films is lacking that strategy now.
For now they are just doing solo films for solo films sake.

I can afford to skip Shazam and Birds of Prey and watch only WW84 and The Batman... Try doing that with Marvel.

E go shock you as Matt Reeves Batman trilogy will just be a standalone thing with no connection to DCEU and other characters even with Multiverse and everything.

We may never see another Justice League movie, even a relaunch like James Gunn did with SS, u no go see am with JL, that chapter has closed.

They are using Multiverse to set up black superman and other solo films that not a single soul asked for.

Marvel is setting up a Multiverse saga which started with Wandavision and will be connected to Doctor Strange 2,

Try watching Doctor Strange 2 without seeing Wandavision and see how that works out for you.

Snyderverse was WBs biggest opportunity at creating something as big and as attractive as Infinity Saga.
But the stupid execs don't see the silver lining.
They are blind and naive.

A good exec will order an exclusive big budget HBO Max series or movies for Snyderverse.
Take advantage of the hype and fantastic reception from fans and critics who are desperately asking for more and GIVE THEM MORE.... At the end of the day you will cashout plenty because high demand is already there.

This is an excellent opportunity from a business perspective and it is stupid to turn it down.

DC is competing with Star Wars for who will have the most clueless execs with no regard for fans.

My bro na so we see am.
Painfully WB execs useless and stupid.

Just hoping Jason Kilar intervenes and does same he did with overruling WB and ordering ZSJL Release. Even adding $70mn as finish work.

TonySpike:
Nobody asked for all these crap they are producing or about to produce. Customer is the king: if they haven't learnt any lessons from the poor performances of Shazam, Harley quinn and WW84, then WB is truly ignorant.

No one asked for a MCU, look where we at today. I’m not supporting WB, no! They make stupid decisions sometimes but at this point, they have to introduce new characters.

Nickshrapnel:
No one asked for a MCU, look where we at today. I’m not supporting WB, no! They make stupid decisions sometimes but at this point, they have to introduce new characters.

We shall both see the outcome later...

TonySpike:
Nobody asked for all these crap they are producing or about to produce. Customer is the king: if they haven't learnt any lessons from the poor performances of Shazam, Harley quinn and WW84, then WB is truly ignorant.

Oga, no matter how you look at it fans asked for Zatanna.
In any DC group I have been, any female character fans hope to appear in DCEU Zatanna is ALWAYS there, same as Batgirl. Fans have done fancasting for these characters tire. If you don't want it doesn't means others won't.

As for the Snyderverse, I want both. Since there's a Multiverse it's easier to continue the Snyderverse in HBOMax then greater DCEU in theaters introducing other characters.

Na person like you go dey shout no one asked for Black Adam and WW84. How will you say Shazam and WW84 did poor performances? Sentiments aside they did well.
Shazam made 4x it's budget, that's impressive for a relatively unknown character and got very good Critical affirmation. WW84 was only impacted by covid pandemic. It was a massive successful release for HBOMax, also having one of the best Pandemic opening numbers in BO. It brought more subscribers to HBOMax. In fact it doubled HBOMax subscribers to 17.2 million users. It was also the most watched content in Christmas week up till new year.

So baba, I don't know how you calculate your own success.
Success isn't all about big box office numbers. The MCU we are all raving about now didn't do big numbers for many opening movies. Captain America: The first Avenger was a flop but Marvel called it a success. The winter soldier follow up also did low numbers same as Incredible (piece of shït) Hulk. Even Ironman first iteration was middling, same as Thor.

Fun fact: DCEU first 7 Movies have bigger total box office gross than first 7 MCU movies.

That's one of the reasons people bash WB for not following Snyder vision.

Minemrys:
to think we both went at each other for n0thing. WB haven't a clue. Snyder said it, he would love to c0me back but there isn't a chance cause it'll be the same thing all over again. When it c0mes to Wb, am always right.

No, you aren't because Ann Sanorff doesn't call the final shots, Jason kilar does.

Hamada reports to Ann, while Ann reports to Jason.

You guys should learn to judge based on logical reasoning. Last week you accused WB of leaking ZSJL without proof even when same thing happened to Wanda Vision. If I asked you how this leak affected ZSJL negatively now, you can't explain o because as it stands ZSJL is a mega success.

News already have it that Jason is pleased with the outcome of ZSJL but the media and people then to react to the negative ones.

Some fans too are not helping and making the fanbase look bad. For example, there's one particular guy who was bragging how ZSJL will destroy WW84 viewing numbers on HBOmax. I warned him to chill but he didn't listen.

Yes, ZSJL broke huge records and decimated others, but still didn't beat WW84 by a fraction at the moment (they're close though) Hopefully, another analytics will come out to give a better report.

From a management angle, WB would look as if their decision was right. From a fan angle, WB ain't right.

Right now, the best thing to do is to convince Jason on the reason why the Snyderverse should continue.

I have written several reasons why Snyder should continue to helm the DCEU to Jason kilar. But I can bet you haven't and several others haven't too.

Rather, they have created a parody account of Ann to insult her and make fun of her. No exec will support a fan base that openly ridicules another exec.

Well, I know Jason is a smart guy as I read that Zack was called to do something for HBOmax. So, there's a possibility that he will continue as rumours spread last week that JL2 and 3 will be done by the studio (I couldn't post the news cos I was busy).

Make we dey watch sha

abduleez1:
Oga, no matter how you look at it fans asked for Zatanna.
In any DC group I have been, any female character fans hope to appear in DCEU Zatanna is ALWAYS there, same as Batgirl. Fans have done fancasting for these characters tire. If you don't want it doesn't means others won't.

As for the Snyderverse, I want both. Since there's a Multiverse it's easier to continue the Snyderverse in HBOMax then greater DCEU in theaters introducing other characters.

Na person like you go dey shout no one asked for Black Adam and WW84. How will you say Shazam and WW84 did poor performances? Sentiments aside they did well.
Shazam made 4x it's budget, that's impressive for a relatively unknown character and got very good Critical affirmation. WW84 was only impacted by covid pandemic. It was a massive successful release for HBOMax, also having one of the best Pandemic opening numbers in BO. It brought more subscribers to HBOMax. In fact it doubled HBOMax subscribers to 17.2 million users. It was also the most watched content in Christmas week up till new year.

So baba, I don't know how you calculate your own success.
Success isn't all about big box office numbers. The MCU we are all raving about now didn't do big numbers for many opening movies. Captain America: The first Avenger was a flop but Marvel called it a success. The winter soldier follow up also did low numbers same as Incredible (piece of shït) Hulk. Even Ironman first iteration was middling, same as Thor.

Fun fact: DCEU first 7 Movies have bigger total box office gross than first 7 MCU movies.

That's one of the reasons people bash WB for not following Snyder vision.

Well said. A lot of people forget this, especially the bolded. And if not, both will be close by numbers.

Everything na small by small.

Unfortunately, the josstice league in 2017 can't be undone.

Well, we move.

Nickshrapnel:
No one asked for a MCU, look where we at today. I’m not supporting WB, no! They make stupid decisions sometimes but at this point, they have to introduce new characters.

Abeg tell them oo. They think everyone wants the same damn thing. How many times person wan dey see Superman and Batman sef. Origin redo all the time.

Abeg, we want Nightwing, Green Lantern, Constantine, Dr Fate, Hawkman, Black Adam, Zatanna, New Gods.

He's forgetting that these super Big characters such as Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman all are very popular and have iterations already many people think should be the definitive version. That's the problem with these characters, everyone wants his own favorite portrayal and already have what they think the character should BE.

Main reason MOS has troubles. Same as BvS with people screaming about Batman killing. Now same is affecting Wonder Woman— people want fighting warrior Wonder Woman not inspiring and peaceful mediator Woman.
As people hyped and waited with held breaths for Wonder Woman, mind you a movie everyone was dieing to see, wetin end am? No be controversy.

Introducing new or obscure characters remove or significantly reduce the likelihood of facing such problems. Only challenge is developing these characters well enough to be lovable by the public, and people will follow it wherever he/she goes. With DC we got many characters that are B-list or lower A-list we can introduce without worrying much about box office. It's not as if we are asking WB to bring C-list or D-list characters for us.

Joker the billion dollars success some of us like to align with, I know naysayers way they shout it'll FLOP. We don't want this. Wetin end am? Now everybody wan belong, wan join the success story and pretend they were all for it at the get go.
Some dey talk as if we had high hopes for Aquaman. A C-list character at best. It was very few of us who predicted $1 billion or closer at the Promotion.

At times people don't know what they want until they see it.

TonySpike:
Nobody asked for all these crap they are producing or about to produce. Customer is the king: if they haven't learnt any lessons from the poor performances of Shazam, Harley quinn and WW84, then WB is truly ignorant.

Na serious mumu WB b aswear!!!!

abduleez1:
Oga, no matter how you look at it fans asked for Zatanna.
In any DC group I have been, any female character fans hope to appear in DCEU Zatanna is ALWAYS there, same as Batgirl. Fans have done fancasting for these characters tire. If you don't want it doesn't means others won't.

As for the Snyderverse, I want both. Since there's a Multiverse it's easier to continue the Snyderverse in HBOMax then greater DCEU in theaters introducing other characters.

Na person like you go dey shout no one asked for Black Adam and WW84. How will you say Shazam and WW84 did poor performances? Sentiments aside they did well.
Shazam made 4x it's budget, that's impressive for a relatively unknown character and got very good Critical affirmation. WW84 was only impacted by covid pandemic. It was a massive successful release for HBOMax, also having one of the best Pandemic opening numbers in BO. It brought more subscribers to HBOMax. In fact it doubled HBOMax subscribers to 17.2 million users. It was also the most watched content in Christmas week up till new year.

So baba, I don't know how you calculate your own success.
Success isn't all about big box office numbers. The MCU we are all raving about now didn't do big numbers for many opening movies. Captain America: The first Avenger was a flop but Marvel called it a success. The winter soldier follow up also did low numbers same as Incredible (piece of shït) Hulk. Even Ironman first iteration was middling, same as Thor.

Fun fact: DCEU first 7 Movies have bigger total box office gross than first 7 MCU movies.

That's one of the reasons people bash WB for not following Snyder vision.

I got your point, but Shazam doing 300m+ is out rightly poor for CBM these days. That's before covid-19 caused serious havoc......
WB execs are trying so hard to be a wannabe MCU and that's the major problem DCEU is facing. Look how childish Shazam was, despite the director trying to bring some of his horror genre backgrounds into it. Then Harley Quinn surfaces from nowhere and before we could digest it finish....boom! WW84, the wannabe Christoper Reeve's Superman in modern-day story.....
WB execs na greedy people...

SMUAG:
I got your point, but Shazam doing 300m+ is out rightly poor for CBM these days. That's before covid-19 caused serious havoc......
WB execs are trying so hard to be a wannabe MCU and that's the major problem DCEU is facing. Look how childish Shazam was, despite the director trying to bring some of his horror genre backgrounds into it. Then Harley Quinn surfaces from nowhere and before we could digest it finish....boom! WW84, the wannabe Christoper Reeve's Superman in modern-day story.....
WB execs na greedy people...

I'm beginning to buy this line that WB execs are greedy.

Zack is really smart.

Me Sha want mos2 and Henry Cavill back as Superman, so I will keep appealing.

Shouting WB this or WB that doesn't do anything.

Once the fans unite and appeal to get Zack back, they're definitely going to reconsider

Nickshrapnel:
No one asked for a MCU, look where we at today. I’m not supporting WB, no! They make stupid decisions sometimes but at this point, they have to introduce new characters.

Gbam.

If you tell them now, they'll say you are supporting WB as if WB is paying us money.

@ Smuag

@ TheKingIsHere

Nicely and Succinctly Put.
Some DC fans are the ones holding the fandom down with their toxic attitude.

While it's good they gave us SnyderCut the management wouldn't want to appear as if they'll fall to fan pressures and be controlled, hence look weak.

That's probably why they denied SnyderCut and didn't want it to come out. Some execs might take it as a move of "rewarding bad behaviour". Cos let's look at it and be real, some fans behave as if Snyder vision is the 'be all end all'. They don't want others input aside Zack's. While Zack is good and all and seems better than some producers/directors he's also flawed.
It's evident in his MOS and BVS reactions.


People forget there are Director/producers like James Wan in DC. See how Aquaman turned out. He knew what core fans and general audience want not picking only one faction to satisfy. Everyone is important.

Our best bet is to solicit Jason Kilar and enlighten him on the need and benefits of a Snyderverse even if subjected to HBOMax. It's a win win...my own dream is after greenlighting Snyderverse (Deathstroke, Batfleck movie, Green Lantern, Atom, Cyborg, JL 2 etc.) they should just crossover to Theatrical for JL 3. And complete the trilogy with a BANG, also introducing Flashpoint with a huge team up, that way bring all non DCEU movies(The Batman etc) together for mashup and can finally retire Batfleck and/or Cavill with a great farewell. Then we can move on proper with other characters>>> Supergirl, Zatanna, Battinson, Black Adam, Batgirl and more.

IngeniousLeez:
@ TheKingIsHere

Nicely and Succinctly Put.
Some DC fans are the ones holding the fandom down with their toxic attitude.

While it's good they gave us SnyderCut the management wouldn't want to appear as if they'll fall to fan pressures and be controlled, hence look weak.

That's probably why they denied SnyderCut and didn't want it to come out. Some execs might take it as a move of "rewarding bad behaviour". Cos let's look at it and be real, some fans behave as if Snyder vision is the 'be all end all'. They don't want others input aside Zack's. While Zack is good and all and seems better than some producers/directors he's also flawed.
It's evident in his MOS and BVS reactions.


People forget there are Director/producers like James Wan in DC. See how Aquaman turned out. He knew what core fans and general audience want not picking only one faction to satisfy. Everyone is important.

Our best bet is to solicit Jason Kilar and enlighten him on the need and benefits of a Snyderverse even if subjected to HBOMax. It's a win win...my own dream is after greenlighting Snyderverse (Deathstroke, Batfleck movie, Green Lantern, Atom, Cyborg, JL 2 etc.) they should just crossover to Theatrical for JL 3. And complete the trilogy with a BANG, also introducing Flashpoint with a huge team up, that way bring all non DCEU movies(The Batman etc) together for mashup and can finally retire Batfleck and/or Cavill with a great farewell. Then we can move on proper with other characters>>> Supergirl, Zatanna, Battinson, Black Adam, Batgirl and more.

Well said.

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The "S" on Superman chest stands for hope.

So, there's hope, no matter how small

TheKingIsHere:
Well said.

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TheKingIsHere
What's up, you got any Streaming numbers about ZSJL performance?. Things scarce now. I'm getting Falcon and Winter Soldier leading all content for this past weekend. No mention of ZSJL. TV Line says 23%. That number looks ridiculous.

For ZSJL I hear in streaming service Bookmyshow in India it got over 100k purchases, the largest ever by India's records.

TheKingIsHere:
Zack is really smart.

Me Sha want mos2 and Henry Cavill back as Superman, so I will keep appealing.

Shouting WB this or WB that doesn't do anything.

Once the fans unite and appeal to get Zack back, they're definitely going to reconsider

where do you get that screenshot from..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q9VRfr5wn0