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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:23pm On Mar 26, 2021
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:32pm On Mar 26, 2021
mekussa:
Of course they need the weapons from the base. Do they have the capacity at the moment to launch an overwhelming attack to over run it? No (at last for now)

Looking at the pattern/frequency of the attacks on that base(about once a week if I am correct), their strategy is to continually keep the troops on alert for as long as possible(in anticipation of the weekly attacks and also to prevent surprise attacks within the week(since most of the weekly attacks happen on weekends).

The combatants in field will tell you how psychologically taxing it is to be at alert and on the defensive without relief(because of the security operations all over the country, rotation is almost zero at the moment)

The more they do these weekly attacks, the more it gets on the nerves of the troops and the more likely it is for someone to make a mistake which they will capitalize on.

If only we had a means to track them back to base after one of these attacks and go on the offensive (even if na only bombing), they will learn to respect/fear attacking this base with this frequency.
A soldier is a soldier especially being a Nigerian one. Being on alert is part of the job on deployment and the least of their worries, it helps you survive the madness up north. Yes repeated attacks can work on the nerves but those are not civilians but professional soldiers. What drains the psyche is bleeding where you have bled before, no one likes that. Those soldiers have been on continuous deployment in the waste lands of Borno and bled multiple times in Marte, Dikwa, Damasak, Baga etc and still bleeding along with some of our allies. The Chadians have since bailed at least for now. The enemy knows it can't win this war by direct action but it is their philosophy to keep coming until you quit. They believe they can make the great satan bleed in this case the infidels. And as much as we hate to hear it if they want that base they would throw everything at it until they get it even if they know they can't hold it. If you want to stop them you bring everything to bear with heavy weaponry and precision strikes. Your best soldier alone on the ground can't stop them. We must understand our enemy by now to be able to defeat him.

Tracking is not as simplistic after the chaos of an attack at least from the air as you make it sound. Own troops in hot pursuit could end up casualties. We can't emphasize enough for the A-29s that's if the old man in the White House don't hallucinate new ideas suddenly. About their bases please let's be serious the NAF knows them and has been bombing them since 2015 with HE ordnance. The problem is they keep moving. Hence the new acquisitions for reach, payload, endurance and precision. There should be some changes shortly.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:43pm On Mar 26, 2021
DaddyGoo:
USA no dey ever pass training now. cheesy cheesy

Ask Guatemala, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen and so many other beneficiaries of the USA's world class "military training". wink undecided
Lol grin and cause even more wahala
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 10:48pm On Mar 26, 2021
ARMY CLEARS AIR OVER MILD COMPLAINTS BY FRONTLINE TROOPS OVER DEPLOYMENT

Our attention has been drawn to an unsubstantiated reports going round on the mainstream media that Soldiers of an unidentified battalion in Operation Lafiya Dole have protested their posting to a location in the Theatre of Operation.

The reports also claimed that the aggrieved soldiers, besieged the headquarters of the Theatre Command in Borno State, shooting sporadically into the air on Thursday to protests over alleged unpaid Operational allowances as well as obsoleted equipment.

For the records, The Headquarters Theatre Command Operation LAFIYA DOLE wishes to state that the claims were unsubstantiated did not represented the true situation of the incidents.

Preliminary investigations by Theatre Commander, Operation Lafiya Dole, Maj. Gen. Farouq Yahaya, revealed that what some media reports described as protest was a mild complaints by few soldiers of Mobile Strike Team (MST), deployed for Exercise Tura Takaibango in the frontline of Operations.

At about 3pm on 25 March, 2021, some of the troops of Mobile Strike Team 10 & 11 who were primed to conduct phase 2 of Exercise TURA TAKAIBANGO in Bama after the first phase of the exercise, raised some concerns which was quickly addressed before they were relunched to the second phase of the Operations.

On the issue of ‘obsolete weapons’ as reported in some media, the position of Army Headquarters is that soldiers have right to demand for proper weapons to prosecute the operations. However, the Federal Government was making concerted efforts toward deploying new fighting equipment to augment the existing ones in the Theartre of Operation.

The Army wishes to also deny report that any soldier was owned any operational allowances. No soldier was owned any Allowance in the Theartre.

We shall continue to remain focused and determined to perform our constitutional roles and responsibilities professionally in the protection of the sovereignty of our nation and ensuring the safety of lives and property while we clear the terrorists, their cohorts and collaborators in the country.

Mohammed Yerima
Brigadier General
Director Army Public Relations
26 March, 2021
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:49pm On Mar 26, 2021
Covert1:
Rant:

Why is South Africa not deploying to Mozambique? The madness has reached its shores. We hear Mozambique is already hoping for help from Abuja while Pretoria is busy taking the threat of the terrorists seriously. Any ideas
Good question.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:51pm On Mar 26, 2021
Toju200:
I'm surprised even
US special forces are in mozambique already to train their military .but I'm sure they'll do more than Just training grin
The South Africans apparently have been standing up some pretty decent battalions since the Bangui debacle at least from recent performances in the DRC and at home but how many effective combat units are available at any given time for deployment without over-stretch. Terrorists holding territory are a whole different beast. I just hope Ramaphosa won't come calling assuming the SANDF continue to develop cold feet. The Americans will do what they do best.

Still waiting to hear from our South African brethren. It's their back yard not ours.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by mekussa(m): 12:00am On Mar 27, 2021
Covert1:
Tracking is not as simplistic after the chaos of an attack at least from the air as you make it sound. Own troops in hot pursuit could end up casualties. We can't emphasize enough for the A-29s that's if the old man in the White House don't hallucinate new ideas suddenly. About their bases please let's be serious the NAF knows them and has been bombing them since 2015 with HE ordnance. The problem is they keep moving. Hence the new acquisitions for reach, payload, endurance and precision. There should be some changes shortly.
In the midst of it all, you still made the point of them attempting to break the psyche of the troops. I however disagree that ONLY BLEEDING CAN BREAK THE PSYCHE OF A NIGERIAN SOLDIER. Them too na human beings.

As for the tracking..... I started with .....". IF ONLY WE HAD.".... so I don't see where I made it sound simplistic or suggest that the troops go after them on foot like you implied. At the end, when summarized, we still said the same things.....

RRSPECT BOSS!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:05am On Mar 27, 2021
DaddyGoo:
Our Indian friend(welcome back @Nemesis) suspects fuel-air explosives.

And I can agree because by God, those things ROAST everything in their damage radius.
You're no more thinking its a Raad-1 nearing its shelf life grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by mekussa(m): 12:08am On Mar 27, 2021
Odunayaw:
You're no more thinking its a Raad-1 nearing its shelf life grin
Things are looking up.... From nuclear missile to Raad-1 to FAE...
One day we'll get there
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop: 12:28am On Mar 27, 2021
I have a theory for this terrorism war we are fighting in Nigeria, from what i see, it will never end.

Different groups will come up.

Bokoharam is getting outdated, now it is isis, after Isis, God know what group will the United states sponsor again in some middle eastern country to destabilize them, the new group will be global as isis and isis might give their loyalty to them. The next war will be against this new group.

I always see a pattern.

Taliban----- Al Qaeda------ Isis-------huh?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DaddyGoo: 5:49am On Mar 27, 2021
Odunayaw:
You're no more thinking its a Raad-1 nearing its shelf life grin
Looool did I ever withdraw my opinion?

My boss I only said I can agree, not that he is definitely correct.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DaddyGoo: 11:00am On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
I have a theory for this terrorism war we are fighting in Nigeria, from what i see, it will never end.

Different groups will come up.

Bokoharam is getting outdated, now it is isis, after Isis, God know what group will the United states sponsor again in some middle eastern country to destabilize them, the new group will be global as isis and isis might give their loyalty to them. The next war will be against this new group.

I always see a pattern.

Taliban----- Al Qaeda------ Isis-------huh?
Apart from globalist sponsorship and the saboteurs that are cashing out in our case, terrorism and terrorists are very hard to dislodge.

The Taliban, for example, have turned themselves into the protectors of Afghanistan's legacy as the graveyard of empires.

Russia, Pakistan, USA, NATO and ISAF are among their victims. That insurgency is one that fits the likely to never end scenario.

IMO, a more fitting scenario to judge our case by is the Sri Lankan Civil War.

While presently not a full blown war, the Tamil Tigers took the Sri Lankans over 25 years to defeat, and that was just kinetic warfare.

Hearts and minds is still ongoing.

And of course this doesn't mean the kinetic stopped.

Has only been reduced to the level of intelligence and police action
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop: 11:49am On Mar 27, 2021
DaddyGoo:
Apart from globalist sponsorship and the saboteurs that are cashing out in our case, terrorism and terrorists are very hard to dislodge.

The Taliban, for example, have turned themselves into the protectors of Afghanistan's legacy as the graveyard of empires.

Russia, Pakistan, USA, NATO and ISAF are among their victims. That insurgency is one that fits the likely to never end scenario.

IMO, a more fitting scenario to judge our case by is the Sri Lankan Civil War.

While presently not a full blown war, the Tamil Tigers took the Sri Lankans over 25 years to defeat, and that was just kinetic warfare.

Hearts and minds is still ongoing.

And of course this doesn't mean the kinetic stopped.

Has only been reduced to the level of intelligence and police action
But it is amazing, how the Talibans were never defeated.

First the Russians fought them, the United states and the world fought them, they were never defeated.

This made me realise that you can't defeat an idea...now the United states wants to broker peace with the talibans through negotiations.

Why didn't they think about that in the first place, the lost of lives will have been averted.

The tamil tigers were another determined militant groups who have birth to sucide bombing, it is interesting that after 24 years, the former president of sri lanka was able to defeat them and you are right that the present battle is the battle of the mind and heart....it is very hard to defeat an idea.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 12:47pm On Mar 27, 2021
Covert1:
Rant:

Why is South Africa not deploying to Mozambique? The madness has reached its shores. We hear Mozambique is already hoping for help from Abuja while Pretoria is busy taking the threat of the terrorists seriously. Any ideas
Over 180 people trapped in Mozambique hotel after ISIL attack
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/3/27/over-180-people-trapped-in-mozambique-hotel-after-isil-attack?__twitter_impression=true
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 1:44pm On Mar 27, 2021
Xbee007:
Over 180 people trapped in Mozambique hotel after ISIL attack
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/3/27/over-180-people-trapped-in-mozambique-hotel-after-isil-attack?__twitter_impression=true
South Africa either deal with this now or late. But one thing is certain, they will be fighting ISIL very soon
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop: 2:17pm On Mar 27, 2021
We are fighting against ideas, ideas tha can take over a human brain, an idea that can lead a human taking up weapon to cause choas against those that don't believe in that ideas or against the state.

The war against radical ideas isn't fought with weapons only.

Government need to do more in containing radical ideas from its birth before it spreads to the populace.

When you kill a radical idea from its birth, you kill its spread and you also kill future violence and war.

The idea of religious freedom and freedom of speech is giving birth to radical ideas that can infact harm other people way of living.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by The5DME(m): 3:25pm On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
We are fighting against ideas, ideas tha can take over a human brain, an idea that can lead a human taking up weapon to cause choas against those that don't believe in that ideas or against the state.

The war against radical ideas isn't fought with weapons only.

Government need to do more in containing radical ideas from its birth before it spreads to the populace.

When you kill a radical idea from its birth, you kill its spread and you also kill future violence and war.

The idea of religious freedom and freedom of speech is giving birth to radical ideas that can infact harm other people way of living.
It always had to do with the 'mohammedeans'. Islam is a very violent religion. They're always the one killing for Allah. This is not intended as an insult, but as a result of observation and I'm well aware of the fact that there are some armed christian terrorist group.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop: 3:37pm On Mar 27, 2021
The5DME:
It always had to do with the 'mohammedeans'. Islam is a very violent religion. They're always the one killing for Allah. This is not intended as an insult, but as a result of observation and I'm well aware of the fact that there are some armed christian terrorist group.
When you politicise religion, you get violence.

The difference between Islam and Christian militants is that Islamic militants come in islamic dressing while using the koran to preach hate.

Christian militants wear military uniforms and use western ideas to preach hate. So you hardly know what religion they are. Christian militants disguise under freedom fighting to do evil.

Both Islamic and Christian militants are all ruled by one single idea and that is Marxism.

We shouldn't forget that Marxism have killed more people globally than actual wars.

Note: you also need to know that there wont have been global terrorism by islamic nations if a Christian civilization like the United states and Russia haven't gone to these countries to destroy them and spread so called democracy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 3:58pm On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
The difference between Islam and Christian militants is that Islamic militants come in islamic dressing while using the koran to preach hate.

Christian militants wear military uniforms and use western ideas to preach hate.

Both Islamic and Christian militants are all ruled by one single idea and that is Marxism.
Christian militants only exist in your mind. Your writing is an attempt to grossly trivialize global Islamic terrorism that we are facing here in this country. Shame on you!

Can you even name any of those Christian militants you are talking about?

And will you please elaborate on the connection between religious terrorism and marxism? Last i time i read Marx i learned that marxism is an ideology that strongly emphasized atheism.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 5:00pm On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
But it is amazing, how the Talibans were never defeated.

First the Russians fought them, the United states and the world fought them, they were never defeated.

This made me realise that you can't defeat an idea...now the United states wants to broker peace with the talibans through negotiations.

Why didn't they think about that in the first place, the lost of lives will have been averted.

The tamil tigers were another determined militant groups who have birth to sucide bombing, it is interesting that after 24 years, the former president of sri lanka was able to defeat them and you are right that the present battle is the battle of the mind and heart....it is very hard to defeat an idea.
Islamic Terrorism can be defeated. United States can defeat Taliban. Many nations including Nigeria can defeat Islamic terror, Geneva Conventions and associated human rights are the constraining factors. US could obliterate the Taliban if US wanted to forgo all the advantages and disadvantages of doing so and ignored domestic and international opinion. It is obvious truth that you cannot defeat Ideas that people hold dear in their heads and hearts by force; however, you can defeat the physical manifestation of those ideas in battle. Example, Nazi racist ideology held in the hearts and mind of supremacists. Even you mentioned Tamil tigers defeat by Sri Lanka government. The allied powers defeated Nazi Germany but today many hold supremacists ideas close to their harts and minds. As long as such ideas remain in their hearts and minds, so be it, societies can live with that.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop:
SuperSixSeven:
Christian militants only exist in your mind. Your writing is an attempt to grossly trivialize global Islamic terrorism that we are facing here in this country. Shame on you!

Can you even name any of those Christian militants you are talking about?

And will you please elaborate on the connection between religious terrorism and marxism? Last i time i read Marx i learned that marxism is an ideology that strongly emphasized atheism.
The niger delta various militant groups, ESN and various militant groups in benue and jos are all made up of Christians.

The lord resistance army are Christians.

The Anti-balaka militants are all Christians.

People's Protection Units, Syrian Democratic Forces, Khabour Guards militant groups in Syria.

Dwekh Nawsha and Nineveh Plain Protection Units are all Christian militant groups in iraq.

My point is militancy isnt only muslims alone, Christians, Buddhists also have their militant groups, the only reason why we hear the Islamic militants is because they are global and want domination and enforcement of the sharia by force.

In respect to Marxism, their are various forms and degree of Marxism, Marxism can be infuse into islam christianity or buddhism as a means to get political power, another marxists way to power is through terrorism.

in all countries were Marxism have been practiced in its purest form especially in Eastern europe, the first point of attack are Christian groups, the burning of churches and the killings of the priest and Christians.

Cuba, Venezuela, brazil bolivia and many south American countries are all Christians ( catholic specifically) but they are all marxist societies that means Marxism neccesarily does not mean atheism.

Infact, some Asian countries practice Marxism but their religion are still intact.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop: 5:20pm On Mar 27, 2021
Litmus:
Islamic Terrorism can be defeated. United States can defeat Taliban. Many nations including Nigeria can defeat Islamic terror, Geneva Conventions and associated human rights are the constraining factors. US could obliterate the Taliban if US wanted to forgo all the advantages and disadvantages of doing so and ignored domestic and international opinion. It is obvious truth that you cannot defeat Ideas that people hold dear in their heads and hearts by force; however, you can defeat the physical manifestation of those ideas in battle. Example, Nazi racist ideology held in the hearts and mind of supremacists. Even you mentioned Tamil tigers defeat by Sri Lanka government. The allied powers defeated Nazi Germany but today many hold supremacists ideas close to their harts and minds. As long as such ideas remain in their hearts and minds, so be it, societies can live with that.
The first taliban war was with Russia and they went home defeated.

The United states have violated human rights laws in Afghanistan and never defeated them, today, the US wants negotiations with talibans.

the US has invaded countries without the UN security council approval, do you think they care about human rights. How come they haven't destroyed and defeat the talibans with billions spent on sophisticated weapons.

For nazi Germany, if you can't defeat the idea, you have lost the war, those who believe in those ideas today are forming political groups to gain power.

The allies defeated Germany but not the idea.


It takes more than weapons to win a war.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 5:22pm On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
The niger delta various militant groups, ESN and various militant groups in benue and jos are all made up of Christians.

The lord resistance army are Christians.

The Anti-balaka militants are all Christians.

People's Protection Units, Syrian Democratic Forces, Khabour Guards militant groups in Syria.

Dwekh Nawsha and Nineveh Plain Protection Units are all Christian militant groups in iraq.
These groups are made up from mostly Christians doesnt mean they are "christian militant groups". They have different agendas, but not related to the field religion. In contrast to the Islamic groups we are fighting they do not have an agenda forcing people to convert anyone to their believe.

Both Islamic and Christian militants are all ruled by one single idea and that is Marxism.
..this is what you wrote - and i tell you you are wrong at this point.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop: 5:25pm On Mar 27, 2021
SuperSixSeven:
These groups are made up from mostly Christians doesnt mean they are "christian militant groups". They have different agendas, but not related to the field religion. In contrast to the Islamic groups we are fighting they do not have an agenda forcing people to convert anyone to their believe.
They are Christians, all because they dont use a bible doesn't remove the facts that they are Christians
[/quote]..this is what you wrote - and i tell you you are wrong at this point.
Prove me wrong with facts.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 5:48pm On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
Prove me wrong with facts.
I asked you to elaborate a bit in the connection between religious extremism and marxism. You havent answered that yet.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Parachoko: 6:02pm On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
They are Christians, all because they dont use a bible doesn't remove the facts that they are Christians
Trash!!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 6:31pm On Mar 27, 2021
SuperSixSeven:
These groups are made up from mostly Christians doesnt mean they are "christian militant groups". They have different agendas, but not related to the field religion. In contrast to the Islamic groups we are fighting they do not have an agenda forcing people to convert anyone to their believe.
The talibans were not formulated to preach Islam, rather it was a mechanism for power, driving foreign influce out of their country... The USA and the powers that be changed the narrative to paint the talibans in bad light...
When Russia got there first Americans sponsored mujahideens to kick soveit ideaology out .. then the US brought theirs, and expected them to accept it.

PS. This conversation would soon turn into knife and hates . Popping out if it.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 6:32pm On Mar 27, 2021
Parachoko:
Trash!!
That's all u have? Really? undecided
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Parachoko: 6:38pm On Mar 27, 2021
GeneralFarouq:
That's all u have? Really? undecided
Yes farouq. That's all what I have to say! The trashy post does not deserve a reply.

There is no Christian terrorists organisation in Nigeria. So nah him know where he dey get his trash from.

Or you can show me a video of this so called Christian terrorist organisation in the Niger Delta he talked about. Killing people all in the name of Jesus Christ and backing up this killing with verses from the Bible.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Valkrie: 6:45pm On Mar 27, 2021
motymop:
The niger delta various militant groups, ESN and various militant groups in benue and jos are all made up of Christians.

The lord resistance army are Christians.

The Anti-balaka militants are all Christians.

People's Protection Units, Syrian Democratic Forces, Khabour Guards militant groups in Syria.

Dwekh Nawsha and Nineveh Plain Protection Units are all Christian militant groups in iraq.

My point is militancy isnt only muslims alone, Christians, Buddhists also have their militant groups, the only reason why we hear the Islamic militants is because they are global and want domination and enforcement of the sharia by force.

In respect to Marxism, their are various forms and degree of Marxism, Marxism can be infuse into islam christianity or buddhism as a means to get political power, another marxists way to power is through terrorism.

in all countries were Marxism have been practiced in its purest form especially in Eastern europe, the first point of attack are Christian groups, the burning of churches and the killings of the priest and Christians.

Cuba, Venezuela, brazil bolivia and many south American countries are all Christians ( catholic specifically) but they are all marxist societies that means Marxism neccesarily does not mean atheism.

Infact, some Asian countries practice Marxism but their religion are still intact.
All these you mentioned are not terrorist groups nah bros but rather formed to combat the islamic terrorism when the government failed to protect them..haba..make una try dey do research small before coming to the public space
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Parachoko: 6:56pm On Mar 27, 2021
GeneralFarouq:
The talibans were not formulated to preach Islam, rather it was a mechanism for power, driving foreign influce out of their country... The USA and the powers that be changed the narrative to paint the talibans in bad light...
When Russia got there first Americans sponsored mujahideens to kick soveit ideaology out .. then the US brought theirs, and expected them to accept it.

PS. This conversation would soon turn into knife and hates . Popping out if it.
The Taliban is an Islamic organisation.

Go and read about the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus:
motymop:
The first taliban war was with Russia and they went home defeated.

The United states have violated human rights laws in Afghanistan and never defeated them, today, the US wants negotiations with talibans.

the US has invaded countries without the UN security council approval, do you think they care about human rights. How come they haven't destroyed and defeat the talibans with billions spent on sophisticated weapons.

For nazi Germany, if you can't defeat the idea, you have lost the war, those who believe in those ideas today are forming political groups to gain power.

The allies defeated Germany but not the idea.


It takes more than weapons to win a war.
I addressed the bolded, I stated, quote: The allied powers defeated Nazi Germany but today many hold supremacists ideas close to their hearts and minds. "As long as such ideas remain in their hearts and minds, so be it, the world can live with this"


In other words, as I also stated, "you can defeat the physical expression of those ideas in battle" as the allied powers defeated Nazis in world war 2 and Sri Lanka defeated Tamil Tigers in 2009. They can keep as many silly ideologies as they like in their heads where it does not hurt others. I think it was Aristotle who stated something along the lines that Evil men are those that carry out what others are content to dream.
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