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freeborn02:
Unfortunately, the activities of Muslims make the religion more of ìmọ̀le than anything else

Beside, the way Othman Danfodiyo brought the religion to the South really portrayed it as a hard one. Ema paja lobo fun was (Stop calling dog monkey for us).

Empiree:
force what on who?. Stop hypocrisy and address the issue presented..hijab is Commanded by God on you and us.



hypocrite! Address the issue and stop perambulating. Your Christianity in Nigeria is intolerant religion. Check my profile and read your CAN manifesto and see how "tolerance" they are.

You gathered yourselves to stone Christians that were having peaceful protest. Does that make Islam to be tolerant?

You threaten anyone that converts to Christianity from Islam. Does that make Islam to be tolerant?

It is either you are a senseless pretender or you are too dumb to know the meaning of intolerance.

joefelin2345:
Beside, the way Othman Danfodiyo brought the religion to the South really portrayed it as a hard one. Ema paja lobo fun was (Stop calling dog monkey for us).

Aside from that, Muslims threaten anyone that converts from Islam to Christianity. That even makes ìmọ̀le more like cult

joefelin2345:
God bless you my brother. In fact that is the position of the Christian in thus matter & from info gathered so far that is even their prayer before the High, Appeal & Supreme Courts. The issue of hijab was smuggled in by the Muslims who applied to be join in the case that was instituted by the Christian against Govt of Kwara State . pls return back the Christian Established Schools to them & let's move forward jare.

God bless you too.

I think you’re also right about your assertions. I watched CAN deputy chairman in Kwara state statement on AlaroyeTV Facebook page and he said Hijab is not actually the main matter and he’s just fighting for equity and if possible government returning those schools to the church. I think he even spoke about the courtroom where the issue was suddenly changed to Hijab.

I support them giving the school back to the church if that will solve the tension. However that will affect both Christian and Muslim student with poor parents.

If the church take back the school and the government withdraw their funding, then the students need to start paying school fees as seen in Ogun state one and that might make the poor Christians that can’t afford the schools to lose quality education.

But that’s by the way shar, probably the Church can find a better model but the governor should return the school back to them and build another school closer to the area to accommodate the students that will exit the mission schools coz of this policy.

Iegendhero:
See me see wahala o. At least it you want to abuse, try to be original. You keep throwing the same quack line.

Are Muslim students allowed to have fellowship on the assembly ground of Christian schools??
.

Go and check all government Christian schools, you will see praying ground for Muslims there.

You don't even know what I mean by Christian students fellowship and you claim you are informed!

So, can you now see that you know nothing and dumber than a door bell?

freeborn02:
Go and check all government Christian schools, you will see praying ground for Muslims there.

You don't even know what I mean by Christian students fellowship and you claim you are informed!

So, can you now see that you know nothing and dumber than a door bell?

At least you’re taking to correction. Now you used a new abuse line.

But door bell are actually not dumb, they notify the owner of someone at the door and give them time to respond to external influence.

That abuse no enter. Find another one!

Iegendhero:
At least you’re taking to correction. Now you used a new abuse line.

But door bell are actually not dumb, they notify the owner of someone at the door and give them time to respond to external influence.

That abuse no enter. Find another one!

Why are you trying to avoid the topic? Is it because your lies and mental emptiness has been exposed?

freeborn02:
Why are you trying to avoid the topic? Is it because your lies and mental emptiness has been exposed?

The topic we are discussing doesn’t make any sense again because your vituperation made it so boring and corrosive.

Friday is the only day Muslims meet up for prayers and you will never see a Muslim student holding congregation during school hours on normal days. That’s why schools close 1pm on Friday.

Sunday is also the official day for Christianic gathering for prayers and it will be absurd for anyone to think students will leave their normal classroom hours to converge for fellowship in school.

That brings us to your integrity and sanity. I asked you to explain what you mean by fellowship coz it could relate to a lot of things but you rather continue to parrot nonsense while waiting for me to engage you like an intelligent homo sapien.

Sorry Bruv, I’m just catching cruises right now coz I’ve seen you are an epitome of emptiness.

Iegendhero:
The topic we are discussing doesn’t make any sense again because your vituperation made it so boring and corrosive.

No, you are a pretender and a deceptive liar. You are only avoiding the topic because I exposed your dumbness.

freeborn02:
No, you are a pretender and a deceptive liar. You are only avoiding the topic because I exposed your dumbness.

Well people reading this thread can vote on who is more dumber between us based on the arguments we both laid out here.

I actually laid my point and addressed your mumbo jumbo even tho I should have left that to your fellow yaba left brethren to attend to.

What we are able to establish on this thread is that you’re a useless liar that conjure false statement to back his argument.

—Your main thesis was that “Christians were denied their right to worship”. I asked you how? You said fellowship.

—Firstly, there is no where in Christian schools that they allow Muslims to do Muslim song or prayer on assembly ground. If you see one tell me!

—Secondly, during school hours I don’t think student have the luxury of holding congregations where they come together to sing or fellowship in a school while their mates are in classes.

—Thirdly, you may want to hide under Jumat as a case of Muslim having chance. But I told you Jumat are usually 1:30-2pm and schools already closed by 1pm on Friday.

—Sunday is the recognizable day for Christians churches and fellowship and schools don’t open then, so I don’t know where you get your jargons you keep parroting from.

Lastly, I might be wrong in misinterpreting what you mean by fellowship. So I humbly ask you one last time to tell me the context of the word “Fellowship” you keep parroting like damaged robot.

Iegendhero:
Well people reading this thread can vote on who is more dumber between us based on the arguments we both laid out here.

I actually laid my point and addressed your mumbo jumbo even tho I should have left that to your fellow yaba left brethren to attend to.

What we are able to establish on this thread is that you’re a useless liar that conjure false statement to back his argument.

—Your main thesis was that “Christians were denied their right to worship”. I asked you how? You said fellowship.

—Firstly, there is no where in Christian schools that they allow Muslims to do Muslim song or prayer on assembly ground. If you see one tell me!

—Secondly, during school hours I don’t think student have the luxury of holding congregations where they come together to sing or fellowship in a school while their mates are in classes.

—Thirdly, you may want to hide under Jumat as a case of Muslim having chance. But I told you Jumat are usually 1:30-2pm and schools already closed by 1pm on Friday.

—Sunday is the recognizable day for Christians churches and fellowship and schools don’t open then, so I don’t know where you get your jargons you keep parroting from.

Lastly, I might be wrong in misinterpreting what you mean by fellowship. So I humbly ask you one last time to tell me the context of the word “Fellowship” you keep parroting like damaged robot.

Do Muslims have a praying ground in all government Christian schools? Yes they do. And do they only pray on those praying grounds on Fridays? No, they pray there every day, including school hours.

Can Christian students ever allowed to have student fellowships in government Muslim schools? Never.

You are dumber than you think. You claim you are informed, yet I have to explain something as simple as this to you? Boy, you are empty upstairs.

freeborn02:
You gathered yourselves to stone Christians that were having peaceful protest. Does that make Islam to be tolerant?

this is one of them many reasons I hate christians. Both protesters are stoning themselves. Stop foolishness and gave the reality. Your religion is intolerant. My posts have nothing to do with who stone who. My post was about hijab.

You threaten anyone that converts to Christianity from Islam. Does that make Islam to be tolerant?

naysayer. How does this address my post about hijab?. Stop being a straw man.



Address your intolerant christian religion.. That's what my posts were about. Christians also destroyed mosque in ILORIN. So stop being foolish.

Racoon:
Follow up thread to:
https://www.nairaland.com/6468697/hijab-red-meat-bigotry-farooq#100045319


https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2021/03/how-to-resolve-hijab-controversy.html?m=1#.YF6u6Cigq1w.twitter

Middle Way approach.

freeborn02:
Lolz. Yes, you force poor Muslims to do so.many things. You force them to obey Sharia law, a law that the rich Muslims flaunt without consequences.

you have nothing upstairs at all. In Nigeria, how many rich people that Nigeria constitution prosecuted?. The law prosecutes the poor and leaves the rich. Don't charge the topic. This is about your christian intolerant fake religion. Stop wandering.

If anybody ever changes from Islam to Christianity, the next thing is threat of death.

how many killed in your family, neighborhood or school?. Stop propaganda and address hijab issues.

Sharia law catches poor women who commit adultery, but never catches ganduje, who takes a bribe on live camera.

and what did Nigeria constitution do to him?. Stop being foolish and hypocritical and address hijab issue.

Take your ìmọ̀le elsewhere, oga

is it not clear that Islam is your problem?

freeborn02:
Do Muslims have a praying ground in all government Christian schools? Yes they do. And do they only pray on those praying grounds on Fridays? No, they pray there every day, including school hours.

Can Christian students ever allowed to have student fellowships in government Muslim schools? Never.

You are dumber than you think. You claim you are informed, yet I have to explain something as simple as this to you? Boy, you are empty upstairs.

What time do Muslim prayer start on a weekday and what time do school close daily? That will show you who is dumber.

Secondly I attended Ibadan Grammar School, it used to be an Anglican school and we have chapel in our school BUT you will never see mosque in the school. Never! The only mosque we have is the MSSN mosque located outside the school when you pass small gate. Outside the school!!!

So that shows you are a liar who use the fallacy of hasty generalization to push your agenda. Do all Christian schools have mosque in them??

Do Christians always have fellowship in normal schools daily on normal school hours besides the assembly ground? Do Christians students pick themselves and say let’s leave class by 11am and go and have fellowship and come back to class by 12pm even in normal secular schools?

So why equating apple with oranges? You are actually more clueless than I thought honestly.

How do Muslims pray during school hours when the average praying time of Muslims is below:
6:00am
2:00pm
4:00pm
7:00pm
8:00pm

Which of those time fall within school hours? Except if Naija schools now end their official school after 2pm. You can enlighten me coz I left some while ago now.

Empiree:
this is one of them many reasons I hate christians. Both protesters are stoning themselves. Stop foolishness and gave the reality. Your religion is intolerant. My posts have nothing to do with who stone who. My post was about hijab.



naysayer. How does this address my post about hijab?. Stop being a straw man.



Address your intolerant christian religion.. That's what my posts were about. Christians also destroyed mosque in ILORIN. So stop being foolish.

So, you live with hatred for Christians because you disagree with a Christian? No wonder your conducts in Islam are murderous and destructive. A religion of violence, murder and intolerance.

And no, they were not exchanging blows. The Christians took refuge in the church while your Muslim brothers were peltering them with stones.

freeborn02:
[s]So, you live with hatred for Christians because you disagree with a Christian? No wonder your conducts in Islam are murderous and destructive. A religion of violence, murder and intolerance.

And no, they were not exchanging blows. The Christians took refuge in the church while your Muslim brothers were peltering them with stones.[/s]

Ogbeni, what is the texture of your problem?. This is what you are required to address. Please stop jumping around like frog

Empiree:
The reason why Nigerian christians oppose Islam and MUSLIMs is because they are Keferi (disbelievers). They are not followers of Isa(Jesus). They are followers of Paul. The criminal who changed Jesus doctrines.

Below are pictures of Christians both in contemporary world and ancient times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU6mzsd0uhI


First two pictures is picture of mother Teresa on the right and pictures of christians in Russia on the left.

Least picture is picture of French Queen in hijab.

Iegendhero:
What time do Muslim prayer start on a weekday and what time do school close daily? That will show you who is dumber.

Secondly I attended Ibadan Grammar School, it used to be an Anglican school and we have chapel in our school BUT you will never see mosque in the school. Never! The only mosque we have is the MSSN mosque located outside the school when you pass small gate. Outside the school!!!

So that shows you are a liar who use the fallacy of hasty generalization to push your agenda. Do all Christian schools have mosque in them??

Do Christians always have fellowship in normal schools daily on normal school hours besides the assembly ground? Do Christians students pick themselves and say let’s leave class by 11am and go and have fellowship and come back to class by 12pm even in normal secular schools?

So why equating apple with oranges? You are actually more clueless than I thought honestly.

How do Muslims pray during school hours when the average praying time of Muslims is below:
6:00am
2:00pm
4:00pm
7:00pm
8:00pm

Which of those time fall within school hours? Except if Naija schools now end their official school after 2pm. You can enlighten me coz I left some while ago now.

I've had cause to stop class several times during school hours because Muslims want to go and pray. So, shut your lieing mouth up.

Maybe I should also remind you that Christian students have their fellowships on Fridays after closing hours. Yet, they are never allowed to congregate.

Go bury your empty brain in a sockaway somewhere, boy.

Empiree:
Ogbeni, what is the texture of your problem?. This is what you are required to address. Please stop jumping around like frog

You are the one jumping around like a fool.

Your religion is full of hypocrisy, deception abdd intolerance.

Why do you threaten Muslims that convert to Christianity? Is it because you are tolerant?

Why do you force others to do your religion? Is it because you are tolerant?

No, your religion is the household of intolerance.

freeborn02:
I've had cause to stop class several times during school hours because Muslims want to go and pray. So, shut your lieing mouth up.

Maybe I should also remind you that Christian students have their fellowships on Fridays after closing hours. Yet, they are never allowed to congregate.

Go bury your empty brain in a sockaway somewhere, boy.

Lol. What time do your school close? Is it 2pm or you’re counting lessons as part of school hours?

I just told you I attended Ibadan Grammar School. I sing from the SOP daily, we sometimes go to the chapel to just sing or do official functions so I know everything about the said topic.

There is no mosque in that school as big as it is. Likewise most of the schools I know with Christianic background. St’lukes is also not far from that school in Molete and there is also no mosque inside. So that makes you a lying braggarts who just come on Nairaland to sow hatred and misinformation.

So Christians now pray and fellowship every Friday too? Is that a universal thing or just your own school where you teach? Because at least in the school I went to none of such happened.

Empiree:
you have nothing upstairs at all. In Nigeria, how many rich people that Nigeria constitution prosecuted?. The law prosecutes the poor and leaves the rich. Don't charge the topic. This is about your christian intolerant fake religion. Stop wandering.



how many killed in your family, neighborhood or school?. Stop propaganda and address hijab issues.


and what did Nigeria constitution do to him?. Stop being foolish and hypocritical and address hijab issue.


is it not clear that Islam is your problem?

Then you are simply saying your Sharia law is as useless as trash paper since it only prosecutes the poor.

And to think you people were pushing for Sharia law all over Nigeria when you know it is an empty law effective only against the poor.

Do you need further proof that your brain has been replaced with saw dust?

Iegendhero:
Lol. What time do your school close? Is it 2pm or you’re counting lessons as part of school hours?

I just told you I attended Ibadan Grammar School. I sing from the SOP daily, we sometimes go to the chapel to just sing so I know everything about the said topic.

There is no mosque in that school as big as it is. So that makes you a lying braggarts who just come on Nairaland to sow hatred and misinformation.

So Christians now pray and fellowship every Friday too? Is that a universal thing or just your own school where you teach? Because at least in the school I went to none of such happened.

You even have to lie to cover your shame.

Dhuhr prayer time is 12:48 pm. And that falls within school time.

Islam says you should kill for God. Does Islam also teach you to lie for God?

Iegendhero:
The article is superb and sensible enough.

—Hijab is a fundamental right of a Muslim girl who choose to wear it and it will be demeaning that at this age, we are denying them the right to expression of their religion.

—Currently, those missionary schools are public schools financed by the government and this gives every religion the right to enrol in it because their taxes are used to finance the school.

—Thirdly, to be fair to the Christians, those schools were their creation before the government took over. They also have the right to say they don’t want hijabs in those schools to maintain tradition BUT the Muslim girl also have the right to wear her hijab devoid of discrimination in a school of learning.

—Hence, to stop this back and forth, the government should return the Christian schools back to their owners where they can have the luxury of administering it as an almost private entity where their tradition can be enforced. Any Muslim that chose to go to the school then must conform 100% to the Christanic tradition and any Muslim parent that chose to foment trouble should be arrested.

—Lastly, the government can build more schools in the area affected to accommodate the vast number of students that will be out of school or try to accommodate them in schools closer to the affected area in the interim before they complete that.

Personally, it hurts that we can be bickering over these things we ought to have gotten over at this age and time.

Responding to your last paragraph, the reason why we are here today is a consequence of an emerging Islamic fanaticism in Nigeria at a time when even Saudi Arabia is relaxing their extremisms. Boko Haram more than anything else put fears in the minds of every southern Christian.

Gandollaar:
Responding to your last paragraph, the reason why we are here today is a consequence of an emerging Islamic fanaticism in Nigeria at a time when even Saudi Arabia is relaxing their extremisms.

No, the reason why we are here is not only that.

—The divide started during the Jonathan/Buhari transition where CAN led a crusade of political statement of Islamization and other stuffs.

—To add salt to injury, Buhari body language actually seems like he favors Muslims more than Christians and that gave some credence to CAN stamements which led to increased religious divide and animosity.

—Anothee wahala is the herdsmen, Boko Haram and atrocities which also tend to make Christian be like rhey need to defend their faith against Islamization and that is what led us to the current scenario where moderate Christians that see nothing wrong in Hijabs before started fearing because they thought asking for Hijab suddenly means Islamization down south.

— I don’t like speaking for situation outside the Yoruba enclave and like tailoring my religious talks to the West. The reason is because outside Yorubaland, the dynamics of religious tolerance, compassion, extremism start to change and it will be like beating a dead horse by trying to engage in the context.

My joy now is that even with an almost 50/50 religious demographics in Yorubaland, we are still keeping religious bigotry in check. Although we have our share of extremist in both Muslim and Christian faith, but they are in the minority and their voice are not yet strong enough to shape things.

cheango:
China and Japan don't worship our God yet they lead the world... Religion will always make Africa backward

No sir, you are wrong here, though they are doing fine they don't lead the world, The United States leads the world and is founded on the Christian God.

N.b. Christianity is growing in China.

Iegendhero:
The article is superb and sensible enough.

—Hijab is a fundamental right of a Muslim girl who choose to wear it and it will be demeaning that at this age, we are denying them the right to expression of their religion.

—Currently, those missionary schools are public schools financed by the government and this gives every religion the right to enrol in it because their taxes are used to finance the school.

—Thirdly, to be fair to the Christians, those schools were their creation before the government took over. They also have the right to say they don’t want hijabs in those schools to maintain tradition BUT the Muslim girl also have the right to wear her hijab devoid of discrimination in a school of learning.

—Hence, to stop this back and forth, the government should return the Christian schools back to their owners where they can have the luxury of administering it as an almost private entity where their tradition can be enforced. Any Muslim that chose to go to the school then must conform 100% to the Christanic tradition and any Muslim parent that chose to foment trouble should be arrested.

—Lastly, the government can build more schools in the area affected to accommodate the vast number of students that will be out of school or try to accommodate them in schools closer to the affected area in the interim before they complete that.

Personally, it hurts that we can be bickering over these things we ought to have gotten over at this age and time.

This quote below saying:

—Thirdly, to be fair to the Christians, those schools were their creation before the government took over.

Is clearly very wrong and untrue. The schools in Kwara were Grant-aided and NOT taken over by the government. The agreement was that
1. Government take over the administration of the schools
2. Government employ the teachers and handle promotions and pensions
3. Government receives the school fees or whatever the students are paying
4. The Propietors retain their rights to the properties and the Spiritual time of the schools.
5. The Propietors appoint their board of governors.

So, clearly if the propietors still maintain the physical structures and appoint their own board of governors while their exist no single financial gain to the propietors for the so-called Government takeover.

Such alleged takeover is a TAQQIYA (a big fat lie designed to make it look like there was an agreement of takeover from the word go)

Iegendhero:
What time do Muslim prayer start on a weekday and what time do school close daily? That will show you who is dumber.

Secondly I attended Ibadan Grammar School, it used to be an Anglican school and we have chapel in our school BUT you will never see mosque in the school. Never! The only mosque we have is the MSSN mosque located outside the school when you pass small gate. Outside the school!!!

So that shows you are a liar who use the fallacy of hasty generalization to push your agenda. Do all Christian schools have mosque in them??

Do Christians always have fellowship in normal schools daily on normal school hours besides the assembly ground? Do Christians students pick themselves and say let’s leave class by 11am and go and have fellowship and come back to class by 12pm even in normal secular schools?

So why equating apple with oranges? You are actually more clueless than I thought honestly.

How do Muslims pray during school hours when the average praying time of Muslims is below:
6:00am
2:00pm
4:00pm
7:00pm
8:00pm

Which of those time fall within school hours? Except if Naija schools now end their official school after 2pm. You can enlighten me coz I left some while ago now.

It means only one thing!
Let Muslim parent and student go to Muslim founded schools. Tell your rich men to create world class school that any Christian who desires to attend such will have to abide by every Islamic rules.

I'm sure you've never heard of Christians attempting to impose their own rules on Muslim institutions

Empiree:
you have nothing upstairs at all. In Nigeria, how many rich people that Nigeria constitution prosecuted?. The law prosecutes the poor and leaves the rich. Don't charge the topic. This is about your christian intolerant fake religion. Stop wandering.



how many killed in your family, neighborhood or school?. Stop propaganda and address hijab issues.


and what did Nigeria constitution do to him?. Stop being foolish and hypocritical and address hijab issue.


is it not clear that Islam is your problem?

But it's actually true that Sharia is meant only for the poor. Can you point to one single rich man/woman
1. Flogged because of zinna?
2. Hand cut because of stealing Government funds?

I will like to know what was done to Dangote when an unmarried girl posted his half naked picture on the internet?

Iegendhero:
Oga tell me how they stopped the Christian from practicing their faith.

Before you lie, just know that you are conversing with an informed human being so choose your words wisely.

I want you to tell us here on Nairaland how Christians were forced from practicing their religion in Muslim government schools.

Thanks in advance!

Kindly watch this without bias and come back to coment. I am challenging you and don't forget to mention me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4hAowN5E8Q&feature=share&noapp=1

That doesn't stop CAN from being terrorists for disturbing others from dressing modestly. Did any Muslim force Hijab on them?

Esseite:
What is a secondary school doing with 12,663 students?... no wonder the teaching standard kept dropping..

Na wa o for you - the writer says six schools (total enrollment).

Meanwhile, 1Corinthians11:6 says:
"If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, she should cover her head."
This is bible on what muslims call hijab. Even Virgin Mary is never depicted by christians without wearing headscarf (or hijab, as muslims call it).
Some folks are ignoramuses in religion that's why they engage in useless controversies like hijab-wearing in so-called mission schools, schools that are 100% govt-funded in kwara. This reminds me of one such mumu who thought he was mocking muslims by referring to them as headslammers, when even Jesus is recorded in Matthew 26:39 like this -
"Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed". "Fell with his face to the ground" - that's what muslims do in their salat. Hallelujah, Allahu Akbar, God is Great!