A proverb in Nigeria says, "When a plantain is spoiling, we say no, it is only ripping well" An unripe plantain is rich and contains several nutrients, and when it begins to ripe, it looses its nutrients but then it becomes finer, and sweeter; it becomes more presentable and attractive. The same thing is applicable with RCCG and many churches today. But the focus is on RCCG here. The founder of this church, Rev. Akindayomin, a man of holiness and righteousness, God called him and gave him a covenant church, that is Redeemed Christian Church of God - RCCG.

Then the church was unpopular because of its strict stand on holiness and righteousness. They were called "Gospel church" those who preached holiness and stood for it. They were not after materials stuffs, their sisters dressed godly, not flamboyantly, all of them were content with little and sharing with all. When their choir ministered, people bowed their heads in sober mood by the heavenly touch of the singing ministration, not like the jumping, shouting and crazy yelling with entertainment choir of today. Then companies were writing the church for employment because of the faithfulness and diligence of their members. I would not have joined them because of their standard of holiness since I was not saved then. That was the RCCG I knew when I was in Ilesha, Osun state in 1989 to early 90s.

But today, RCCG is more popular, richer and everywhere, in fact, they are proud of their parishes in every corner of Nigeria and many other countries, they are the fastest and still growing church, beautiful auditoriums everywhere. In Abuja here where I live, RCCG is like the richest church. But where are their godly virtues of old? They have exchanged their spiritual riches for materials and financial riches, they boast of financial riches while they are spiritually miserable. I lived in Redemption camp for full 6 months in 2010, and with what I saw in the dept of RCCG - the corruption, sexual immorality, unfaithfulness, etc. among the core leaders to the least members, I can categorically say this church is spiritually poor. A church where a music director wanted to sleep with a sister choir before permitting her to sing praise and worship at the Holy Ghost night? And God cannot open the eyes of the G.O to discern or detect sins among people close to him and rebuke it openly as Apostle Peter did in Acts chapter 5, the G.O can only discern blessings and upcoming prosperity?

Why has RCCG changed to opposite of where they stood before? Or why did Pastor Adeboye changed the landmark God gave to Rev. Akindayomin, which he upheld till he died? And you, you who were saved and brought up in the old faith when you were young, in secondary school and university fellowships, now you have joined the modern church system and worldly dress and have abandoned your beginning, seeing it as old school?

The Bible standard has gone elsewhere because of crave for population. If you are a member, worker or leader in RCCG, how many messages or books of Rev. Akindayomin do you have or have you read or listen to? Maybe none! RCCG is the only church where materials and works of the immediate past G.O is evacuated almost completely. As if the books and messages of their founder who also was the immediate past leader were totally removed. None of his books or messages are promoted or reprinted, at least for every member to have access to the teachings and messages of the founder of their church. This present G.O and admins will never do that, you know why? Their lifestyles, prayers and preachings are opposite the messages and standard of Rev. Akindayomin, so they CAN NEVER PROMOTE THE MESSAGES OR BOOKS of Pa Akindayomin in their present spiritual condition. Do you know any church on earth where the messages and books of the church founder and immediate past General Overseer is completely eradicated from the same church with no trace? Only in RCCG.

If God should open the eyes of Pa Akindayomin in heaven to see the church he left on earth, he will be weeping now, so also heaven is weeping on RCCG. But you are celebrating RCCG as a successful church, popular and powerful even to Aso villa here in Abuja.

The case of Pa Akindayomin and Pastor Adeboye is like the case of David and Solomon in the Bible. David fought the good fight of Faith, so also did Pa Akindayomin - we know how Pa Akindayomin started and how he ended well. But Solomon did no fighting, rather he did many buildings, from building Temple of God, to his personal buildings, to several idols, even to Chemosh - incessant building project is one of the signs of backsliding in any church. Solomon had many things, many wives, many riches, etc. just as there are many buildings and many members today in RCCG.

You must be happy of being a member or pastor of RCCG, especially if you did not witness the RCCG of old; because there is freedom, prosperity and promises and better life. No stress of holiness, no discipline of indecent dress, no restitution, everything is bureaucracy, and as long you can comply with the rules and regulations, you have no limit. But that will lead to where?

This is not the covenant church God used His servant Rev. Akindayomin to found, this is not the same church I knew in 1990, this is not the church of the Bible. Today, I will find it hard to join RCCG, not because of their high standard of holiness again, but because of their low and poor standard of holiness.

You can be very zealous to condemn this article, to choose to defend your G.O rather than defending the truth. If you were not in RCCG about 20 years ago, then you may lack understanding of the beginning of RCCG, go and ask the elders who witnessed the beginning and strength of RCCG as a true covenant church of undiluted truth and holiness of heavenly minded church.

If you know where God began with you, where God was pleased with you that He made COVENANT with you, then that may help you to know where you have missed it along the way, and where you need to trace you way back. God is waiting for you at the point He made covenant with you, and same thing with Pastor Adeboye and RCCG as a whole. Go back to the old faith, the narrow old path of FEW serious minded, and stop defending this broad MULTITUDE, MANY faulty modern way before it is too late. The Rapture of the saints is imminent!

" Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’— and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and Unclad— 18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your unclothedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten.Therefore be zealous and repent." Revelation 3:17-19

Gideon Akande

Who be this one again?

Funny and trashy write up, funny Title

I totally agree with everything the op has said and before you quote me just know that I was a Strong RCCG member for 7 years before my eyes were opened and I saw that the church is nothing to write home about and that they are only concern is to grow their numbers and make more money..... Infact I have given up on Christianity as a whole, I still believe in God but I've left religion behind.

Vulcanheph:
I totally agree with everything the op has said and before you quote me just know that I was a Strong RCCG member for 7 years before my eyes were opened and I saw that the church is nothing to write home about and that they are only concern is to grow their numbers and make more money..... Infact I have given up on Christianity as a whole, I still believe in God but I've left religion behind.

Everyone always claim to be a strong member

Many of you run after Pastor and when he disappoints you all, you start shouting and screaming! Follow God! Serve God! Stop looking at the fault of a Pastor.

How..

I always say, know the God you serve...

Vulcanheph:
I totally agree with everything the op has said and before you quote me just know that I was a Strong RCCG member for 7 years before my eyes were opened and I saw that the church is nothing to write home about and that they are only concern is to grow their numbers and make more money..... Infact I have given up on Christianity as a whole, I still believe in God but I've left religion behind.

Any SINCERE seeker who have DEEP understanding of Scripture in relation to what is obtainable today in MOST (if not all) denomination, will come to this (bolded) conclusion sooner or later.

According to God's word nobody can worship Him independently of the association of other faithful adherents of God's word {Hebrews 10:24-25} so if you're not associating with any group of persons there is no way you can possibly worship God acceptably! Matthew 18:20

So it's justified if you disassociate yourself from the midst of sinners, scoffers and evildoers {Psalms 1:1} but then you must find the congregation of the true God {Zephaniah 2:2-3} where righteousness dwells {Psalms 133:1} otherwise what your isolation is saying in essence is "God doesn't exist" for there can't be a God without worshipers and worshipers must offer sacred service to God as one big body not each person doing so in isolation! Ephesians 4:12

JustAskingYou:

Any SINCERE seeker who have DEEP understanding of Scripture in relation to what is obtainable today in MOST (if not all) denomination, will come to this (bolded) conclusion sooner or later.

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word nobody can worship Him independently of the association of other faithful adherents of God's word {Hebrews 10:24-25} so if you're not associating with any group of persons there is no way you can possibly worship God acceptably! Matthew 18:20

So it's justified if you disassociate yourself from the midst of sinners, scoffers and evildoers {Psalms 1:1} but then you must find the congregation of the true God {Zephaniah 2:2-3} where righteousness dwells {Psalms 133:1} otherwise what your isolation is saying in essence is "God doesn't exist" for there can't be a God without worshipers and worshipers must offer sacred service to God as one big body not each person doing so in isolation! Ephesians 4:12

Lies. Who says a person can serve God without..


Check Your scriptures check the lives of many many throughout scriptures


1. Job


2. Joseph ( Egypt )


3. Moses ( Egypt )


4. Samson ( Before Commissioning )


5. Jacob


6. Abraham ( Before Lot )


7. David ( Training a d Transitioning )


8. Elijah


9. Esther


10. Nehemiah

I love to see intelligent people in this generation.

May God bless you more and more OP
you have spoken the outmost truth, in fact protestants churches are more of a money making venture.


Mod come Nd push this topic to front page make our self acclaimed righteous nairalanders learn

Vulcanheph:
I totally agree with everything the op has said and before you quote me just know that I was a Strong RCCG member for 7 years before my eyes were opened and I saw that the church is nothing to write home about and that they are only concern is to grow their numbers and make more money..... Infact I have given up on Christianity as a whole, I still believe in God but I've left religion behind.

I want to believe you didn't leave RELIGION you left the religion constituted by men. Humans love following men. God decided to give us one still we are not satisfied. We abandoned that man and set up men to lead like slaves.

James 1:27.... . Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world

But like people always do, we still want someone to come and explain who is an ORPHAN, who qualify as a WIDOW, who are those in distress. How to keep yourself free from pollution of the world.


And when they come and give explanation, it comes in the form of rules and regulations that will support their own agenda which will eventually enslave those seeking such clarifications. Before you know it you become their recruit to market their agenda.

RichMediaSpace:






Lies. Who says a person can serve God without..


Check Your scriptures check the lives of many many throughout scriptures


1. Job


2. Joseph ( Egypt )


3. Moses ( Egypt )


4. Samson ( Before Commissioning )


5. Jacob


6. Abraham ( Before Lot )


7. David ( Training a d Transitioning )


8. Elijah


9. Esther


10. Nehemiah

Jeremiah..........the man suffer tire from those wey suppose they worship God.

The interesting aspect is that most of those prophet served God on their own despite living with people God himself personally choose. They suffered from this same set of people who keep acting waywardly.

He will come back and tell you otherwise. Before Paul's death he was confined to house arrest. He serve God like that till his death.

None of these ones you mentioned was happy in conditions where they can't ASSOCIATE with fellow worshipers of God!
Job had companions, Joseph never forgot Israel his father and made his people swear that they must return his bones to lie in death where God's people are laid to rest, Moses fought to deliver God's people out of slavery, Samson died for fighting in support of God's people, Jacob cherished pure worship, Abraham left his people for pure worship. All these people weren't happy until pure worship was established where God's people worshiped God as one big and happy family! Psalms 133:1 compare to Isaiah 2:2

David wanted to build a Temple where worshipers of God will be congregating for pure worship! Elijah, Esther and Nehemiah all fought for pure worship. None of them were happy that they're not able to ASSOCIATE with the remaining worshipers of their God.

But now that we (Christians) now have a spiritual Temple (Jesus Christ) and it's not compulsory that we must all worship in the same geographical location unlike back then in Jerusalem {John 4:20-24} it's totally wrong and unacceptable from the standpoint of Jesus that someone should think of worshiping God in isolation when you have a name binding you together with fellow believers! Matthew 18:20

It's either you don't know God's people or you don't want to worship God, but thinking of worshiping the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in Isolation after Jesus has erected the Spiritual Temple!

Just say you don't believe (trust) in Jesus' words that's understandable but never say "there's no gathering of his holy ones" Hebrew 10:24-25

Thanks!

RichMediaSpace:

Lies. Who says a person can serve God without..
Check Your scriptures check the lives of many many throughout scriptures
1. Job
2. Joseph ( Egypt )
3. Moses ( Egypt )
4. Samson ( Before Commissioning )
5. Jacob
6. Abraham ( Before Lot )
7. David ( Training a d Transitioning )
8. Elijah
9. Esther
10. Nehemiah

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word nobody can worship Him independently of the association of other faithful adherents of God's word {Hebrews 10:24-25} so if you're not associating with any group of persons there is no way you can possibly worship God acceptably! Matthew 18:20

So it's justified if you disassociate yourself from the midst of sinners, scoffers and evildoers {Psalms 1:1} but then you must find the congregation of the true God {Zephaniah 2:2-3} where righteousness dwells {Psalms 133:1} otherwise what your isolation is saying in essence is "God doesn't exist" for there can't be a God without worshipers and worshipers must offer sacred service to God as one big body not each person doing so in isolation! Ephesians 4:12

This time I agree with you totally, the idea of a church or no rknown ots is what I don't want to hear. No human organisation is absolutely perfect. None.


About RCCG, the observation of the writer could be true in the absolute. But, I know there is Redeemed Pad, if you own one, the few chosen recorded messages in Yoruba is available. Then, the founder was not a man of letters. I don't think he wrote any books except the writer can provide some evidence. I have read about Oshoffa, AyoBabalola

You don't need to agree with me because there is just one Lord, one faith and one baptism {Ephesians 4:5} whatever makes people worship in different forms connotes different Gods not the same!

MightySparrow:

This time I agree with you totally, the idea of a church or no rknown ots is what I don't want to hear. No human organisation is absolutely perfect. None.

About RCCG, the observation of the writer could be true in the absolute. But, I know there is Redeemed Pad, if you own one, the few chosen recorded messages in Yoruba is available. Then, the founder was not a man of letters. I don't think he wrote any books except the writer can provide some evidence. I have read about Oshoffa, AyoBabalola

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word nobody can worship Him independently of the association of other faithful adherents of God's word {Hebrews 10:24-25} so if you're not associating with any group of persons there is no way you can possibly worship God acceptably! Matthew 18:20

So it's justified if you disassociate yourself from the midst of sinners, scoffers and evildoers {Psalms 1:1} but then you must find the congregation of the true God {Zephaniah 2:2-3} where righteousness dwells {Psalms 133:1} otherwise what your isolation is saying in essence is "God doesn't exist" for there can't be a God without worshipers and worshipers must offer sacred service to God as one big body not each person doing so in isolation! Ephesians 4:12

This time I agree with you totally, the idea of a church or no rknown ots is what I don't want to hear. No human organisation is absolutely perfect. None.


About RCCG, the observation of the writer could be true in the absolute. But, I know there is Redeemed Pad, if you own one, the few chosen recorded messages in Yoruba is available. Then, the founder was not a man of letters. I don't think he wrote any books except the writer can provide some evidence. I have read about Oshoffa, Ayo Babalola, Moses Orimolade, Sadela, Baba Abiye... None of them in their generation lay emphasis on books but those written about them.

Decadence in the last days is practically not possible, any church except those covering their misdeeds. Justifying that, no, never. The prophetic programme of last days seem not to promise that. If the writer has left the church, RCCG and all, he will still find rots elsewhere.

Only JW Organization measure up to what i'm saying!

MightySparrow:


This time I agree with you totally, the idea of a church or no rknown ots is what I don't want to hear. No human organisation is absolutely perfect. None.


About RCCG, the observation of the writer could be true in the absolute. But, I know there is Redeemed Pad, if you own one, the few chosen recorded messages in Yoruba is available. Then, the founder was not a man of letters. I don't think he wrote any books except the writer can provide some evidence. I have read about Oshoffa, Ayo Babalola, Moses Orimolade, Sadela, Baba Abiye... None of them in their generation lay emphasis on books but those written about them.

Decadence in the last days is practically not possible, any church except those covering their misdeeds. Justifying that, no, never. The prophetic programme of last days seem not to promise that. If the writer has left the church, RCCG and all, he will still find rots elsewhere.

MaxInDHouse:
Only JW Organization measure up to what i'm saying!

It is a lie, big time. Only what you are exposed to in your location is what you know. In the other thread, £12, 000 was fined you were defending what you don't know. Just type related topics on Google, you will be surprised.


It is all delusion. I met the elders of your organisation about some issues in my brother's family. A friend who chose to study the scriptures together with me made a comment similar to what you are saying now. I asked him never to come to my place again. We resolved the issue,, we are still friends.Details, not for a forum like this. But, I am disappointed at the position of those elders. Sir decay is everywhere.

No b only your church oo, same with my church Catholic

My own Organization have the absolute TRUTH!

So if you want to be my friend whatever you tell me about the tenets of your faith i will never cross such boundary, and whatever i tell you about my faith please just leave it the way i present it because it will never change no matter our friendship.

But apart from that you are always welcome to be my friend if you will not argue nor disrespect my religious stand!

MightySparrow:

It is a lie, big time. Only what you are exposed to in your location is what you know. In the other thread, £12, 000 was fined you were defending what you don't know. Just type related topics on Google, you will be surprised.
It is all delusion. I met the elders of your organisation about some issues in my brother's family. A friend who chose to study the scriptures together with me made a comment similar to what you are saying now. I asked him never to come to my place again. We resolved the issue,, we are still friends.Details, not for a forum like this. But, I am disappointed at the position of those elders. Sir decay is everywhere.

FreshGreen:
A proverb in Nigeria says, "When a plantain is spoiling, we say no, it is only ripping well" An unripe plantain is rich and contains several nutrients, and when it begins to ripe, it looses its nutrients but then it becomes finer, and sweeter; it becomes more presentable and attractive. The same thing is applicable with RCCG and many churches today. But the focus is on RCCG here. The founder of this church, Rev. Akindayomin, a man of holiness and righteousness, God called him and gave him a covenant church, that is Redeemed Christian Church of God - RCCG.

Then the church was unpopular because of its strict stand on holiness and righteousness. They were called "Gospel church" those who preached holiness and stood for it. They were not after materials stuffs, their sisters dressed godly, not flamboyantly, all of them were content with little and sharing with all. When their choir ministered, people bowed their heads in sober mood by the heavenly touch of the singing ministration, not like the jumping, shouting and crazy yelling with entertainment choir of today. Then companies were writing the church for employment because of the faithfulness and diligence of their members. I would not have joined them because of their standard of holiness since I was not saved then. That was the RCCG I knew when I was in Ilesha, Osun state in 1989 to early 90s.

But today, RCCG is more popular, richer and everywhere, in fact, they are proud of their parishes in every corner of Nigeria and many other countries, they are the fastest and still growing church, beautiful auditoriums everywhere. In Abuja here where I live, RCCG is like the richest church. But where are their godly virtues of old? They have exchanged their spiritual riches for materials and financial riches, they boast of financial riches while they are spiritually miserable. I lived in Redemption camp for full 6 months in 2010, and with what I saw in the dept of RCCG - the corruption, sexual immorality, unfaithfulness, etc. among the core leaders to the least members, I can categorically say this church is spiritually poor. A church where a music director wanted to sleep with a sister choir before permitting her to sing praise and worship at the Holy Ghost night? And God cannot open the eyes of the G.O to discern or detect sins among people close to him and rebuke it openly as Apostle Peter did in Acts chapter 5, the G.O can only discern blessings and upcoming prosperity?

Why has RCCG changed to opposite of where they stood before? Or why did Pastor Adeboye changed the landmark God gave to Rev. Akindayomin, which he upheld till he died? And you, you who were saved and brought up in the old faith when you were young, in secondary school and university fellowships, now you have joined the modern church system and worldly dress and have abandoned your beginning, seeing it as old school?

The Bible standard has gone elsewhere because of crave for population. If you are a member, worker or leader in RCCG, how many messages or books of Rev. Akindayomin do you have or have you read or listen to? Maybe none! RCCG is the only church where materials and works of the immediate past G.O is evacuated almost completely. As if the books and messages of their founder who also was the immediate past leader were totally removed. None of his books or messages are promoted or reprinted, at least for every member to have access to the teachings and messages of the founder of their church. This present G.O and admins will never do that, you know why? Their lifestyles, prayers and preachings are opposite the messages and standard of Rev. Akindayomin, so they CAN NEVER PROMOTE THE MESSAGES OR BOOKS of Pa Akindayomin in their present spiritual condition. Do you know any church on earth where the messages and books of the church founder and immediate past General Overseer is completely eradicated from the same church with no trace? Only in RCCG.

If God should open the eyes of Pa Akindayomin in heaven to see the church he left on earth, he will be weeping now, so also heaven is weeping on RCCG. But you are celebrating RCCG as a successful church, popular and powerful even to Aso villa here in Abuja.

The case of Pa Akindayomin and Pastor Adeboye is like the case of David and Solomon in the Bible. David fought the good fight of Faith, so also did Pa Akindayomin - we know how Pa Akindayomin started and how he ended well. But Solomon did no fighting, rather he did many buildings, from building Temple of God, to his personal buildings, to several idols, even to Chemosh - incessant building project is one of the signs of backsliding in any church. Solomon had many things, many wives, many riches, etc. just as there are many buildings and many members today in RCCG.

You must be happy of being a member or pastor of RCCG, especially if you did not witness the RCCG of old; because there is freedom, prosperity and promises and better life. No stress of holiness, no discipline of indecent dress, no restitution, everything is bureaucracy, and as long you can comply with the rules and regulations, you have no limit. But that will lead to where?

This is not the covenant church God used His servant Rev. Akindayomin to found, this is not the same church I knew in 1990, this is not the church of the Bible. Today, I will find it hard to join RCCG, not because of their high standard of holiness again, but because of their low and poor standard of holiness.

You can be very zealous to condemn this article, to choose to defend your G.O rather than defending the truth. If you were not in RCCG about 20 years ago, then you may lack understanding of the beginning of RCCG, go and ask the elders who witnessed the beginning and strength of RCCG as a true covenant church of undiluted truth and holiness of heavenly minded church.

If you know where God began with you, where God was pleased with you that He made COVENANT with you, then that may help you to know where you have missed it along the way, and where you need to trace you way back. God is waiting for you at the point He made covenant with you, and same thing with Pastor Adeboye and RCCG as a whole. Go back to the old faith, the narrow old path of FEW serious minded, and stop defending this broad MULTITUDE, MANY faulty modern way before it is too late. The Rapture of the saints is imminent!

" Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’— and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and Unclad— 18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your unclothedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten.Therefore be zealous and repent." Revelation 3:17-19

Gideon Akande

So, @OP what is the motive of this post?

Vulcanheph:
I totally agree with everything the op has said and before you quote me just know that I was a Strong RCCG member for 7 years before my eyes were opened and I saw that the church is nothing to write home about and that they are only concern is to grow their numbers and make more money..... Infact I have given up on Christianity as a whole, I still believe in God but I've left religion behind.

So Sir, how do you fellowship now or practice your believe in God.

RichMediaSpace:






Lies. Who says a person can serve God without..


Check Your scriptures check the lives of many many throughout scriptures


1. Job


2. Joseph ( Egypt )


3. Moses ( Egypt )


4. Samson ( Before Commissioning )


5. Jacob


6. Abraham ( Before Lot )


7. David ( Training a d Transitioning )


8. Elijah


9. Esther


10. Nehemiah

There is no one you mentioned here that is a lone ranger. Infact majority were used among "God's people". Notice that word. God's people, which each of those you listed are part.

No one is used or called of God to work in isolation. No one. It's devils imprint.

hoopernikao:


There is no one you mentioned here that is a lone ranger. Infact majority were used among "God's people". Notice that word. God's people, which each of those you listed are part.

No one is used or called of God to work in isolation. No one. It's devils imprint.

Deceive yourself. My life took 1000% rise since I worshipped The Almighty without the problems human beings carry with their presence.

RichMediaSpace:



Deceive yourself. My life took 1000% rise since I worshipped The Almighty without the problems human beings carry with their presence.

Mr rise,
Good for your life. I rejoice with you but don't twist the scriptures to support your unscriptural attitude or rise.

By the way, even an atheist can have more than 1000% rise in life without knowing God.

Hence, when such rise is your motive or determinant of judging your walk with God, then you are yet, not ready to know God.

hoopernikao:


Good for your life. I rejoice with you but don't twist the scriptures to support your unscriptural attitude or rise.

By the way, even an atheist can have more than 1000% rise in life without knowing God.

Hence, when such rise is your motive or determinant of judging your walk with God, then you are yet, not ready to know God.

Stop deceiving yourself saying anyone is twisting the scriptures. It's you who should read the scripture with understanding. Prior to the revelation of Jesus, did you see him with anyone asides the issue of the temple at his young age?


Abeg e

MaxInDHouse:
My own Organization have the absolute TRUTH!

So if you want to be my friend whatever you tell me about the tenets of your faith i will never cross such boundary, and whatever i tell you about my faith please just leave it the way i present it because it will never change no matter our friendship.

But apart from that you are always welcome to be my friend if you will not argue nor disrespect my religious stand!

What is your definition of truth?

RichMediaSpace:




Stop deceiving yourself saying anyone is twisting the scriptures. It's you who should read the scripture with understanding. Prior to the revelation of Jesus, did you see him with anyone asides the issue of the temple at his young age?


Abeg e

You are dancing around pockets of scriptures.
You provided a list, and I corrected you that it's not true. You danced away from that to mention Jesus.

Was Jesus in isolation before, during and after his revelation. Hope you have your Bible to read.

A man frequent in temple, you still can't see reasons and importance in that.

Eka Bible yín nah.

RichMediaSpace:
Lies. Who says a person can serve God without..
Check Your scriptures check the lives of many many throughout scriptures
1. Job
2. Joseph ( Egypt )
3. Moses ( Egypt )
4. Samson ( Before Commissioning )
5. Jacob
6. Abraham ( Before Lot )
7. David ( Training a d Transitioning )
8. Elijah
9. Esther
10. Nehemiah

Jesus Christ in fact never mandated group worship of the sort of you find practiced by many who claim to be of God.

achorladey:
Jeremiah..........the man suffer tire from those wey suppose they worship God.
The interesting aspect is that most of those prophet served God on their own despite living with people God himself personally choose. They suffered from this same set of people who keep acting waywardly.
He will come back and tell you otherwise. Before Paul's death he was confined to house arrest. He serve God like that till his death.

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word nobody can worship Him independently of the association of other faithful adherents of God's word {Hebrews 10:24-25} so if you're not associating with any group of persons there is no way you can possibly worship God acceptably! Matthew 18:20

So it's justified if you disassociate yourself from the midst of sinners, scoffers and evildoers {Psalms 1:1} but then you must find the congregation of the true God {Zephaniah 2:2-3} where righteousness dwells {Psalms 133:1} otherwise what your isolation is saying in essence is "God doesn't exist" for there can't be a God without worshipers and worshipers must offer sacred service to God as one big body not each person doing so in isolation! Ephesians 4:12

Jesus and John the baptist worshipped God independently.

John the baptist obviousky was in the wildernesses not the temples.

Jesus was also not even known in the temples because they all wondered where he learnt scriptures whenever he taught.

hoopernikao:


So Sir, how do you fellowship now or practice your believe in God.

I don't need any church or fellowship to believe in God.... I can believe in God in my own way, without any need for religion.