ThumbzTNA:



In my own humble opinion, I'd rather they joined Delta North to Rivers South East and Rivers East to form a 100% igbo state in the South South

in what way do you think that's feasible when the only reason a state is being considered for SE is to make it have 6 states and increase the southern states from 17 to 18 against the norths 19 plus Abuja? Or you don't know the new states will get seats in NASS?

selemempe:
in what way do you think that's feasible when the only reason a state is being considered for SE is to make it have 6 states and increase the southern states from 17 to 18 against the norths 19 plus Abuja? Or you don't know the new states will get seats in NASS?

Let's do the math since politics is a game of numbers



What we have now is

5 SE states with 3 senators each = 15 igbo senators
+
3 Igbo senators from SS (Delta North, Rivers West and Rivers East)

=

18 senators


What you are proposing
5 SE states x 3 senators each = 15
+
3 Anioma senators (when Anioma is added to the SE) = 18
+
2 Igbo Rivers senators


=

20 senators



What I'm proposing
6 SE states x 3 senators each = 18
+
3 Igbo senators from SS (Delta North, Rivers West and Rivers East, even if these 3 senatorial districts are merged to be become a state in the SS)

=

21 senators

Legendforte:
We Igbos should campaign for Enuani or anioma state to be made part of southeast, not the fragmentation of our region.

you well so?
How enuani/Anioma take get anything in common with SE?
be guided please and leave Niger Deltans alone.

ThumbzTNA:


The Igbos in the South South (Rivers and Delta) should be left where they are, their presence in the SS increases igbo influence. The Fulani are not relegated only to the North West and neither are the Yoruba to the South West, so Igbo shouldn't be different


As for the Igbo in Kogi, Benue, Cross River and Edo, their case is different. They should be added back to the already existing igbo states in the SE. They wield little to no influence in the states they have been attached to and they are virtually overlooked by their various state governments

igbos in kogi, igbos in benue, igbos in cross River and bla bla bla and the deception continues.
keep deceiving yourself

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selemempe:
Most igbos will only support Anioma state. The reason I believe is because of ongoing Igbo nationalism.

We want to bring as much Igbo people together into one political arrangement.

We are not like the yorubas who have a voice already in Nigeria since after the civil war.

Anioma has Asaba and Delta has Warri...so that alone gives Anioma an edge over Etiti state. Anioma would also be the largest state in South East and would significantly increase our land

[/s] UTTER RUBBISH

GrandFinale2021:
igbos in kogi, igbos in benue, igbos in cross River and bla bla bla and the deception continues.
keep deceiving yourself

Sit down and ask yourself why is it that whenever Igbo are discussing issues that unites them, it peppers you so much. Hope you know that is how witchcraft starts

ThumbzTNA:



Let's do the math since politics is a game of numbers



What we have now is

5 SE states with 3 senators each = 15 igbo senators
+
3 Igbo senators from SS (Delta North, Rivers West and Rivers East)

=

18 senators


What you are proposing
5 SE states x 3 senators each = 15
+
3 Anioma senators (when Anioma is added to the SE) = 18
+
2 Igbo Rivers senators


=

20 senators



What I'm proposing
6 SE states x 3 senators each = 18
+
3 Igbo senators from SS (Delta North, Rivers West and Rivers East, even if these 3 senatorial districts are merged to be become a state in the SS)

=

21 senators

so because of one additional senator, you want us to overlook the landmass addition to SE? The population addition to SE and the general better visibility Anioma will bring....I don't even want to tell you how it helps our unity of purpose.

Also ND have their own agenda and the senators you mentioned will always go with Niger Delta agenda unless they are moved to SE zone

ThumbzTNA:



Sit down and ask yourself why is it that whenever Igbo are discussing issues that unites them, it peppers you so much. Hope you know that is how witchcraft starts

you for no quote that guy bro...na wetin he want

GrandFinale2021:
igbos in kogi, igbos in benue, igbos in cross River and bla bla bla and the deception continues.
keep deceiving yourself

who is this born fool, aren't you aware we have Igbos in those states.anything Igbo actually blocks the thinking faculty of an average nigerian..so i'm not surprised from ur comment.

selemempe:
you for no quote that guy bro...na wetin he want

I hear you brother

unshakablejihad:


who is this born fool, aren't you aware we have Igbos in those states.anything Igbo actually blocks the thinking faculty of an average nigerian..so i'm not surprised from ur comment.

you sit at the comfort of your thatch house in your village to believe every propaganda you hear on the internet.
I'm from one of the aforementioned states and the only igbos I know here are settlers from SE who come down here for business.
have you actually visited those states to check for yourself?
Now I know why the exiled Albino Hunchback Fraudster is using you guy's heads.

AbujaCitiBlog:

Nonsense. Anything that is not adding landmass and or more people to Southeast is useless!
Southeast has the least land. Any new state must either incoporate the Igbo's in Rivers state, Benue, Kogi, Delta, Edo or it is useless.

Kpom.

GrandFinale2021:
you sit at the comfort of your thatch house in your village to believe every propaganda you hear on the internet.
I'm from one of the aforementioned states and the only igbos I know here are settlers from SE who come down here for business.
have you actually visited those states to check for yourself?
Now I know why the exiled Albino Hunchback Fraudster is using you guy's heads.

bloody dingbat Igbo kill you there.
we have over 600 Igbo villages carved into benue,obubra in cross river,ohaobu in akwa ibom, and a few villages in kogi u can go and do ur research.

if u think u gonna hurt me by insulting Mnk hahahah it won't work bcux i'm nt one of his fanatic followers..

selemempe:
Most igbos will only support Anioma state. The reason I believe is because of ongoing Igbo nationalism.

We want to bring as much Igbo people together into one political arrangement.

We are not like the yorubas who have a voice already in Nigeria since after the civil war.

Anioma has Asaba and Delta has Warri...so that alone gives Anioma an edge over Etiti state. Anioma would also be the largest state in South East and would significantly increase our land

Enugu is bigger than Anioma.

selemempe:
so because of one additional senator, you want us to overlook the landmass addition to SE? The population addition to SE and the general better visibility Anioma will bring....I don't even want to tell you how it helps our unity of purpose.

Also ND have their own agenda and the senators you mentioned will always go with Niger Delta agenda unless they are moved to SE zone

Landmass occupied by Igbo whether in SE or SS is already igboland. For example, I as an Igbo man feel more comfortable building a house in Asaba (whether it's in SE or SS) than building one in Otukpo or Calabar



In my humble opinion, what Igbo in SS need is to have a state to themselves, but said state will still remain in the SS. They shouldn't share a state with other tribes. It's true that igbo people from SS are always torn between agenda of the ND and that of Igbo. That's what brings about identity crises. Having a state that is made up of Delta North, Rivers East and Rivers West (Igbo and igboid group in the South South) is the best for everyone. The minority tribes are happy because they finally have their state to themselves. The Igbo are happy because they are finally in a state with one identity and destiny. Everyone wins

SlayerForever:



Enugu is bigger than Anioma.

How is Adada more viable than Anioma or Etiti?

ThumbzTNA:



Landmass occupied by Igbo whether in SE or SS is already igboland. For example, I as an Igbo man feel more comfortable building a house in Asaba (whether it's in SE or SS) than building one in Otukpo or Calabar



In my humble opinion, what Igbo in SS need is to have a state to themselves, but said state will still remain in the SS. They shouldn't share a state with other tribes. It's true that igbo people from SS are always torn between agenda of the ND and that of Igbo. That's what brings about identity crises. Having a state that is made up of Delta North, Rivers East and Rivers West (Igbo and igboid group in the South South) is the best for everyone. The minority tribes are happy because they finally have their state to themselves. The Igbo are happy because they are finally in a state with one identity and destiny. Everyone wins

states cannot be created for any other zone in the south except SE. This is because only one state can be allowed in the south now. So would you rather that state be created for SS? Nobody in NASS will even support that. So the argument should be...the south has one shot at state creation which is to give the SE one extra state. Now the SE must decide where that state would be carved from.

selemempe:
states cannot be created for any other zone in the south except SE. This is because only one state can be allowed in the south now. So would you rather that state be created for SS? Nobody in NASS will even support that. So the argument should be...the south has one shot at state creation which is to give the SE one extra state. Now the SE must decide where that state would be carved from.

Why do you believe only one more state can be added to the South. Isn't there a region with 7 states in the North and another with 6 states and abuja (which is an administrative unit with it's own senator). The South South can have 7 states, if we're really talking about balancing things up



Anyway, I think we can both agree that the important thing is that the SE gets it's additional state, be it Anioma or Etiti. That's the main focus

AbujaCitiBlog:

Nonsense. Anything that is not adding landmass and or more people to Southeast is useless!
Southeast has the least land. Any new state must either incoporate the Igbo's in Rivers state, Benue, Kogi, Delta, Edo or it is useless.

come try am na, we go carry you people use do suya.
face your region and leave South South states alone cos we don't have anything in common.
You've been warned

selemempe:
who are 'We'....which seat do you occupy in NASS? Or you think the mere fact that you are abokì gives you right to talk to people anyhow

We the 'abokkkis' own the north if u don't know

ThumbzTNA:


The Igbos in the South South (Rivers and Delta) should be left where they are, their presence in the SS increases igbo influence. The Fulani are not relegated only to the North West and neither are the Yoruba to the South West, so Igbo shouldn't be different


As for the Igbo in Kogi, Benue, Cross River and Edo, their case is different. They should be added back to the already existing igbo states in the SE. They wield little to no influence in the states they have been attached to and they are virtually overlooked by their various state governments

Here you miss it. If there needs to be another addition to the already existing states in South east, then states like Kogi, Benue can shed landmass plus people plus a little addition from Enugu and ebonyi to form another state for south east, or Igbo speaking areas in Delta, Edo, Rivers can come together with parts of Anambra state to form another state.

That is what you call addition. If we are not getting more landmass, then it is an exercise in furtility.

Lolz since Nigeria has not been fair to this people They should be left alone, you are only causing separation among the Igbo people which will tell on the long run. They have the least land mass of all three major ethnic group yet you still want to create another state of the little they have did they complain to you.?

Only after some decades y'all will know you are gradually being turned into a minority group

Don't misquote me

Edygrin:
How is having another state a discussion?
The North that have 19 states, how many of those States can they boast of. The problem of Nigeria isn't about state creation, restructure this country and things will fall back in place.

Leave them to be chasing shadows!

Nigerians...always trying to tackle the symptoms instead of squarely facing the main ailment!

Okadall:
Lolz since Nigeria has not been fair to this people They should be left alone, you are only causing separation among the Igbo people which will tell on the long run. They have the least land mass of all three major ethnic group yet you still want to create another state of the little they have did they complain to you.?

Only after some decades y'all will know you are gradually being turned into a minority group

Don't misquote me

Gbagyi are found in Kaduna, Niger, Abuja and Nasarawa. That means they have enough landmass but they are still a minority tribe in Nigeria. You know why? They have neither population, cohesion or infleunce.

ThumbzTNA:


How is Adada more viable than Anioma or Etiti?

I never spoke of viability.

But viable or not there should be no further balkanizing of the SE states.

ThumbzTNA:


Anioma state is in South South. That one is talk for another day. Moreover, no major tribe in Nigeria occupies only one geopolitical zone, if we have to push for Anioma state, it would still remain in the South South

Anioma state is in the south south but majority of them identify as igbos so instead of tearing up or carving out towns and villages to create a sixth state in the south east, it's better an Anioma state be created and be the sixth state for for igbos.

ThumbzTNA:


Gbagyi are found in Kaduna, Niger, Abuja and Nasarawa. That means they have enough landmass but they are still a minority tribe in Nigeria. You know why? They have neither population, cohesion or infleunce.

That doesn't explain the effort of trying to fragment the Igbo people to smaller groups


Niger state has a large expanse of land mass yet another state has not been created out of it

Okadall:



That doesn't explain the effort of trying to fragment the Igbo people to smaller groups


Niger state has a large expanse of land mass yet another state has not been credited created out of it

My school of thought is
Fragmenting Igbo states into smaller states enables development to get to be brought closer to the people. I use Ebonyi as an example. Abakaliki developed less rapidly when it was still under Enugu because it was never a state capital or even close to one. Development was focused on other towns and so never got this much monetary allocation. Now within 15 years of the creation of Ebonyi, Abakaliki has moved from the dusty town to the most organized and serene capital in southern Nigeria. Agriculture that has been it's Hallmark is booming more than it ever was. The Ebonyi state University is ensuring that it's people get an education. And Ebonyi is faring better all the other states created alongside it

The reason why gbagyi are fragmented today is because they have been placed in 4 different states and are majority in none. Comparing that to creating a 100% igbo state that will be within other Igbo states, isn't the same.

Okpotokpo:
Anioma state is in the south south but majority of them identify as igbos so instead of tearing up or carving out towns and villages to create a sixth state in the south east, it's better an Anioma state be created and be the sixth state for for igbos.

It Is the same procedure for creating Anioma state that is used for creating Etiti state. Contiguous LGAs polled together to form a state. Umunneochi might be in Abia state, but it shares borders with Okigwe in Imo and Aninri in Enugu the same way Aniocha shares borders with Ika and Oshimili

ThumbzTNA:


My school of thought is
Fragmenting Igbo states into smaller states enables development to get to be brought closer to the people. I use Ebonyi as an example. Abakaliki developed less rapidly when it was still under Enugu because it was never a state capital or even close to one. Development was focused on other towns and so never got this much monetary allocation. Now within 15 years of the creation of Ebonyi, Abakaliki has moved from the dusty town to the most organized and serene capital in southern Nigeria. Agriculture that has been it's Hallmark is booming more than it ever was. The Ebonyi state University is ensuring that it's people get an education. And Ebonyi is faring better all the other states created alongside it

The reason why gbagyi are fragmented today is because they have been placed in 4 different states and are majority in none. Comparing that to creating a 100% igbo state that will be within other Igbo states, isn't the same.

Well This is Nigeria and logic don't work here

The thing is, if that is the way forward, there are states in Nigeria with a large expanse of land mass having communities that are far from the reach and impact of the government ,we have example of some states in the northern part of the country, living Less than average, states like taraba, Niger, Borno. Now why not start from those states

why is the Nigerian government suddenly very interested in the development of Igbos States?

Nice one

Those people aren't igbo ...many people believe that igbo are the majority in Nigeria but they aren't. There's 9 tribes in southeast I wanted tocreate topic on this but they keep deleting it.

Kebbiprince:
Why do they need to mix up people from those different states. They should leave them alone in their respective states. I doubt if those people have things in common aside just been igbo