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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 4:47pm On Mar 29, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
i remember mentoning more than one jet. mark my word.just a matter of time
My brother SU57 is build to be even superior to F-35. Forget western propaganda.

Only the F-22 would be superior to SU57 and maybe some secret stealth fighter in US.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lionel4power(m): 5:16pm On Mar 29, 2021
Nigerian Air Force unveils two new aircraft

The Nigerian Air Force today unveiled the latest addition to it's fleet. A JF-17 Thunder and an F-35 Lightening II Stealth aircraft.


F-35 Stealth aircraft. Note the effective Stealth capability


JF-17 Thunder armed with Ra'am precision munition

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by cutievik: 5:32pm On Mar 29, 2021
lionel4power:
Nigerian Air Force unveils two new aircraft

The Nigerian Air Force today unveiled the latest addition to it's fleet. A JF-17 Thunder and an F-35 Lightening II Stealth aircraft.


F-35 Stealth aircraft. Note the effective Stealth capability


JF-17 Thunder armed with Ra'am precision munition

Oga, you dey back track?? Lol, the F-35 is so stealthy, E no dey show for pictures sef..damn fast!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lionel4power(m): 5:39pm On Mar 29, 2021
cutievik:


Oga, you dey back track?? Lol, the F-35. Is so stealthy.
lol.. I dey expect insult to start flying
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by cutievik: 5:45pm On Mar 29, 2021
lionel4power:
lol.. I dey expect insult to start flying
I don lessen the tensions... hehehehe

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Fynline(m): 6:01pm On Mar 29, 2021
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 6:06pm On Mar 29, 2021
Fynline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OpvtlKAdU

Obamgame 2021. It appears NNSBS are not participating?

Nigeria deployed 6 Ships, 2 Helicopters and 1 ATR-42 including an SBS compliment for this exercise.

Covid and the inability of the Nigerian navy and French Navy to release pictures is the problem.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 6:10pm On Mar 29, 2021
Xbee007:
Can someone give me one good reason why Nigeria will spend billions of dollars to acquire F-35 or SU57?

Just one good reason.

Nigeria does not have billions of dollars to spend on the military.

We can never get the F-35, and we will not purchase the SU-57.

We don't have the money, neither do we have the political clout. Anyone who thinks differently on this matter is delusional.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 6:18pm On Mar 29, 2021
mark my word 29 march 2021 about the 5 jet i mention one will heavy weight jet will procure

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lionel4power(m): 6:36pm On Mar 29, 2021
F-35, Su-57, submarines, ra'ad, nuclear bomb!!


What happened to this thread? undecided

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 6:53pm On Mar 29, 2021
Now I've heard it all! grin gringrin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by slimthugchimee2(m): 7:00pm On Mar 29, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
mark my word 29 march 2021 about the 5 jet i mention one will heavy weight jet will procure

I don mark am

If we procure it, I won't insult you again

If we don't, you will shut up forever and only update us COIN

By the way, list the 5 jets you talk of?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 7:07pm On Mar 29, 2021
kabe1:


Nigeria does not have billions of dollars to spend on the military.

We can never get the F-35, and we will not purchase the SU-57.

We don't have the money, neither do we have the political clout. Anyone who thinks differently on this matter is delusional.

There is nothing further to say on this matter. Thank you.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 8:08pm On Mar 29, 2021
Islamic State is all but effectively in control of the resource rich muslim region of Mozambique with the capture of Palma. There's so many questions here. Where's South Africa & SADC.
This wouldn't be happening in ECOWAS & Nigeria without any response. The whole situation shows the effectiveness of ECOWAS because of Nigeria's economic and military clout. Should South Africa continue to show weakness everytime there's a crisis in the region it can no longer be considered a regional military power.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56557623

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 8:19pm On Mar 29, 2021
kikuyu1:


I'm NEUTRAL in all this. Pls elaborate.

If you have a problem with the bolded please show your grievance. And why are you neutral.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:30pm On Mar 29, 2021
grin grin grin.... You people ehn..... You won't kill someone.
Anyways, the second week of little/no attack from ISWAP is going... Could it be they have reverted to proper defense? Or they've reverted to the normal strategy of retreating in the face of military onslaught only to regroup after the military has gone? Or are they planning something massive?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 8:36pm On Mar 29, 2021
Toju200:
OPENING ADDRESS BY THE CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF LT GEN I ATTAHIRU NAM GSS CMH ndc (K) psc (+) FCMH AT THE OPENING CEREMONY OF THE COMBINED CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF FIRST QUARTER CONFERENCE AND NIGERIAN ARMY OPERATIONS RETREAT 2021 HELD AT ARMY HEADQUARTERS COMMAND OFFICERS’ MESS ASOKORO ABUJA ON 29 MARCH 2021

PROTOCOL

1. It is my pleasure to welcome you all to the Army Headquarters Command Officers’ Mess, Abuja for the combined Chief of Army Staff First Quarter Conference and the Nigerian Army Operations Retreat 2021. As my maiden conference since assuming command as the Chief of Army Staff on 28 January 2021, this event offers ample opportunity: for us to brainstorm and interact on the state of affairs of the Nigerian Army, review our activities for first quarter 2021 while also planning for our training and operational commitments in the Second Quarter of the Year.

2. As you are well aware, I and my colleagues the other Service Chiefs took over command of our respective Services at a very critical period when the nation is facing daunting security challenges characteristic of a volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous environment. This was rightly highlighted by the Commander in Chief, President Muhammadu Buhari, during his first meeting with the Chief of Defence Staff and the Service Chiefs. During the meeting, the President gave us marching orders to decisively deal with all security challenges facing the country.

3. In line with the President’s directive and my intent to rebuild the Nigerian Army into a formidable force, I conceived the vision of having “A Nigerian Army that is Repositioned to Professionally Defeat all Adversaries in Joint Environment.” To breathe life into this vision, I released my Philosophy of Command which has Readiness, Capacity, Continuous Leadership Development and Duty to Country as cardinal pillars. Readiness entails mission-oriented training, functional manning and equipping while Capacity will be built on the dependability of the Nigerian Army to accomplish any mission in line with norms enshrined in our core values and ethics. Continuous leadership development on its own will ensure that the Nigerian Army continues to roll out innovative 21st century commanders and of course Duty to Country entails loyalty and sacrifice to our fatherland. As formation commanders and Principal Staff Officers, your role is critical to the attainment of my vision. Therefore, I implore all of you to immediately key into the vision so that together, we can take the Nigerian Army to greater heights.

4. I am particularly pleased with the initiative to hold the Nigerian Army Operations Retreat as part of the First Quarter Conference after so many years. You will agree with me, that the retreat provides a platform to reassess the threat environment and review our operations with a view to identifying gaps that could be addressed in the planning and conduct of future operations. In this regard, I want to state that the Nigerian Army under my watch will remain resolute in decisively dealing with any threat confronting the country. Hence, I have directed that serious attention must be given to sustaining and improving the tempo in all ongoing Nigerian Army operations across the country. Commanders must therefore glean from my Command Philosophy to ensure that operational and administrative proficiencies of Nigerian Army formations and units are sustained and improved upon.

5. I am aware of logistics constraints affecting operations across the country and I am glad to inform you that the President, Commander in Chief has pledged to continue to support the Nigerian Army. As I speak, we will soon be receiving combat enablers that would enhance and boost our operations. Concerted effort is also being made to eliminate the threat of improvised explosive devices which has been a major impediment to troops and our operations in OP LAFIYA DOLE. Again, in order to increase our operational capabilities, I have approved the purchase of spare parts and directed that all damaged and unserviceable equipment in the theatre be back loaded for immediate repairs.

6. I want to assure you that I am determined in rebuilding the fighting skills, capacity, confidence and morale of our troops across the various theatres of operations. In order to achieve this, my top priorities for the second and third quarters of the year would be training. I will ensure that through functional training, officers and soldiers of the Nigerian Army are equipped with the right competences and skills to effectively undertake daring missions in addition to developing special operations forces. This would be closely followed by procurement that ensures appropriate kitting and provision of protective gear, weapons, equipment and platforms. Administration is a key principle of war, hence troops’ welfare will also be given paramount attention. Let me however remind you all, that while no effort will be spared in achieving these goals, it is command responsibility to ensure the sustenance and maintenance of all equipment while measures must be emplaced to ensure sound administration of troops and their families.

7. At this juncture, let me appreciate all the officers and soldiers of the Nigerian Army for their unrelenting sacrifice and efforts in ensuring that the Nigerian Army fulfils its constitutional responsibilities. However, as the saying goes, the only easy day was yesterday, as such, I will continue to demand that you redouble your efforts so that we can decisively deal with our adversaries or any group or person that threatens. The peace and stability of our great nation. So doing, we will achieve our end state of ensuring a peaceful and stable Nigeria. I will also be using this conference and the operations retreat to unveil my strategic plan for the year 2021, where I will be giving very clear directives of what I expect from all of you. Therefore, I expect to see directives emanating from these events and subsequently from Army headquarters translate immediately into proactive courses of action that will find solutions and deal with our numerous security challenges.

8. At this point, I wish to humbly convey my gratitude to the President, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria President Muhammadu Buhari (Grand Commander of the Federal Republic) for his unrelenting support to the Nigerian Army. I want to use this platform to again pledge my unalloyed loyalty and that of every officer and soldier of the Nigerian Army to the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and to the President Commander in Chief.

9. Once again, I welcome all the participants, especially our esteem guests and retired senior colleagues whom we have specially invited in order to glean from their wealth of experience. I am convinced that at the end of this conference and the operations retreat, we would have a road map that will address the threats facing the country.

10. On this note, it is my honour and privilege to declare the Combined Chief of Army Staff First Quarter Conference and Nigerian Army Operations Retreat 2021 open.

11. Thank you and God bless.

This man is actually a scholar just like his predecessor General Dambazua. When I say here Nigeria has the finest military institutions in Africa something western powers concur and Nigerians themselves know haters and we know who all that they are start throwing shades. Who remembers General Martin Luther Agwai, even the recent CDS Gen. Olonishakin. Former President Jonathan knew this which is why everytime he took visiting presidents to NDA and touted the prowess of the Nigerian military officer that if Nigeria would ever make it to the moon the military would be a big catalyst. What's the missing link translating text book battle courses to actionable reality on the ground. Boko haram and ISWAP has defied every known insurgency and asymmetric combat training known to man by simply becoming cannon folders, human bombs and savages.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 8:44pm On Mar 29, 2021
Whyem15:
grin grin grin.... You people ehn..... You won't kill someone.
Anyways, the second week of little/no attack from ISWAP is going... Could it be they have reverted to proper defense? Or they've reverted to the normal strategy of retreating in the face of military onslaught only to regroup after the military has gone? Or are they planning something massive?

Terrorists are unforgiving. You can expect they will be back in some fashion. This is what just happened in Mozambique, there was a lull in the fighting, less attacks that even the PMCs prepared to leave and boom the second major town is now under their control. Just know they are up to something. Whenever it feels too eerily quiet in warfare prepare for the worst. My fear is they be melting into the population or infiltrated already for the big day, for a tet kind of offensive or more likely probing weak Army positions for a brazen onslaught that will make headlines.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by IGpro1(m): 8:54pm On Mar 29, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
oga igpro i never said nigeria have order f35 i only said it was a nomination which will be determine after the president meeting with joe biden next month. and i did not mention only f35 i mention both j17, su35 su 57 j10 everything will come out just a matter of time. mark my words
no wahala bro... abeg no let negative comments like mine discourage you from updating us.oo
we are just used to the military buying sub standard, scrap metals or insignificant numbers of the good weapons.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 9:01pm On Mar 29, 2021
motymop:


After the Russian Afghan war, the country was controlled by different warlords who carved parts for themselves to make money, they killed people and turned Afghans into slaves, the Mujahedeen who were former fighters in the war, saw the atrocities of the warlords and decided to create the taliban movement to bring back peace and human rights to Afghanistan. The taliban movement was headed by Mawlawi Abdul Samad and Amir and Mullah Omar who was the commander,( all Afghanis)they cleared the country of warlords and then gained political power to form the Taliban regime of Afghanistan. The Taliban movement was only interested in Affairs of Afghanistan and not in any outside affairs, their main goal was to bring peace to Afghanistan and to foster international relations with the US through the oil company UNOCAL.

Al Qaeda on the other hands are different from the talibans, Al Quada was an all-Arab camp created in Jaji in 1986, Al Qaeda comprises of only Arabs with their leader Osama Bin laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri( Arabs). Osama was the medium of training and sponsorships of arab college students who were willing to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, also he was willing to internationalize the struggle against the Russians and take it as far as Philippines, Al quada is like an Arab legion that can defend Muslim causes everywhere. So your notion that Al Qaeda are Afghanistan tribes is wrong.

Talibans are a nationalist movement and only Afghans could join, it was created for the survival of the Afghans people while Al Qaeda is an Arab group.

The United states lost the war not because of the terrains but because of the Taliban unity among themselves, many of the Taliban forces were experienced fighters who fought during the Afghan Russian war and also because muslims from around the world sent fighters to fight a muslim cause, the united states were fighting against different groups...very hard to win that type of war.





Closest accurate narrative of the history. Apparently we are all now accepting the US has lost the war and now talking with their enemies cheesy Everything about Afghanistan and the Taliban screams bad news and this is the organization boko haram is modeled after. I have advocated for over a year now to start talking to moderate elements of boko haram and then cut off the head of remaining belligerents with every available banned incendiary else we might be in a forever war. We gotta have an exit strategy to end this war not postponing the inevitable. Hit them so hard the moderate elements within and their foreign backers come to the table.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by shadowprimezero: 9:08pm On Mar 29, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
oga igpro i never said nigeria have order f35 i only said it was a nomination which will be determine after the president meeting with joe biden next month. and i did not mention only f35 i mention both j17, su35 su 57 j10 everything will come out just a matter of time. mark my words

How is anyone taking this guy seriously at this point. Even after the JF-17 RAAD-II childish lie. Its painfully obvious he knows close to nothing about military affairs, geo-politicts or even Nigeria's diplomatic and strategic limitations. I've noticed that the kid even has multiple accounts where he engages himself in a convoy.

Honestly, the typical quality of this thread has really taken a dip. It was once filled to the brim with highly intellectual and academic discussions on Nigerian defence and good pictures. It was solid content. I wish we could have a moderator.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 9:28pm On Mar 29, 2021
Covert1:


If you have a problem with the bolded please show your grievance. And why are you neutral.

Let's not. Firstly, what are the metrics of such a debate? Per capita spend per soldier? Battlefield experience, working platforms, etc,etc?
What would we even discuss? Nairaland being nairaland would posters accept facts and figures of a debate or just ISHYT all over the thread like pigeons and strut around like they won?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:10pm On Mar 29, 2021
kikuyu1:


Let's not. Firstly, what are the metrics of such a debate? Per capita spend per soldier? Battlefield experience, working platforms, etc,etc?
What would we even discuss? Nairaland being nairaland would posters accept facts and figures of a debate or just ISHYT all over the thread like pigeons and strut around like they won?

You sound like you want facts and logic? Here? Have you not learned anything?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:22pm On Mar 29, 2021
kikuyu1:


Let's not. Firstly, what are the metrics of such a debate? Per capita spend per soldier? Battlefield experience, working platforms, etc,etc?
What would we even discuss? Nairaland being nairaland would posters accept facts and figures of a debate or just ISHYT all over the thread like pigeons and strut around like they won?

You just took the bait. Just look at what you typed. Here we go again the usual paper tiger stories. What has all those things you listed assuming they are true and in your favor, what performance indices can we attribute to its efficacy on ground in conflicts in the region. It begs the question can South Africa's military performance on all fronts be compared to Nigeria's in the last ten years both in military diplomacy, power projection and active combat.

Now I'm waiting for you. Don't run and hide.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 10:24pm On Mar 29, 2021
Lurker4Long:


You sound like you want facts and logic? Here? Have you not learned anything?

What WAS I thinking? My bad!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:34pm On Mar 29, 2021
Lurker4Long:


You sound like you want facts and logic? Here? Have you not learned anything?

Stop sounding condescending, its uncalled for.
I'm sure there are enough educated minds that want facts and logic. I just threw a bon.e to your friend. After you listed all that logic and facts we might want to find out why your Army, Navy and Air Force can't deploy for actual combat on the scale Nigeria's military has both home & abroad.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by motymop: 10:44pm On Mar 29, 2021
Covert1:


Closest accurate narrative of the history. Apparently we are all now accepting the US has lost the war and now talking with their enemies cheesy Everything about Afghanistan and the Taliban screams bad news and this is the organization boko haram is modeled after. I have advocated for over a year now to start talking to moderate elements of boko haram and then cut off the head of remaining belligerents with every available banned incendiary else we might be in a forever war. We gotta have an exit strategy to end this war not postponing the inevitable. Hit them so hard the moderate elements within and their foreign backers come to the table.

I would have prefer the Russian method during the Russia Chechnya war, Putin decided to use moderate elements like Akhmad Kadyrov, the Russian government sponsored kadyrov and his fighters, and they were able to win the war against Yandarbiyev group. the kadyrov side got all the spoils of the war, but the advantage the Chechen had was that the region was an autonomous region under the Russian federation.

I think your method can work, if the Nigeria government can find a more moderate group, sponsor them and make them fight against bokoharam and others, it will be a win win for everyone but the problem is if Nigeria government betray them after the war, these people can carry arms and create another full blow war.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:44pm On Mar 29, 2021
kikuyu1:


What WAS I thinking? My bad!

Like I have the time. The Kenyan just bailed. First you were neutral which I rebutted because if you were you wouldn't struggle to sleep at night because you read on Nairaland Nigeria excels South Africa as a strategic regional military power in sub-saharan Africa. The average Nigerian knows the bias and prejudice of other Africans against them even if the Nigerians are the ones you will still call if your roof catches fire. I know you don't like the sound of that but it's the fact and a reality you must live with it.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Geronimoe: 10:54pm On Mar 29, 2021
Covert1:


Like I have the time. The Kenyan just bailed. First you were neutral which I rebutted because if you were you wouldn't struggle to sleep at night because you read on Nairaland Nigeria excels South Africa as a strategic regional military power in sub-saharan Africa. The average Nigerian knows the bias and prejudice of other Africans against them even if the Nigerians are the ones you will still call if your roof catches fire. I know you don't like the sound of that but it's the fact and a reality you must live with it.

Why you dey waste your time? Some of these foreign guys dey two faced. I see through every of their shroud on this and the other thread.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:58pm On Mar 29, 2021
motymop:


I would have prefer the Russian method during the Russia Chechnya war, Putin decided to use moderate elements like Akhmad Kadyrov, he sponsored them and his fighters were able to win the war against Yandarbiyev group the kadyrov side, got all the spoils of the war, but the advantage the Chechen had was that the region was an autonomous group under the Russian federation.

I think your method can work, if the Nigeria government can find a more moderate group, sponsor them and make them fight against bokoharam and others, it will be a win win for everyone but the problem is if Nigeria government betray them after the war, these people can carry arms and create another full blow war.

The second part of your missive is just it. You get my drift. That's what we need now. A template already exists with the Niger-Delta militants and Nigeria didn't betray them. Those moderate BH are Nigerians and that's why we should talk and bring this bitter war to an end. We can sponsor third parties to go after ISWAP.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 11:22pm On Mar 29, 2021
Covert1:


The second part of your missive is just it. You get my drift. That's what we need now. A template already exists with the Niger-Delta militants and Nigeria didn't betray them. Those moderate BH are Nigerians and that's why we should talk and bring this bitter war to an end. We can sponsor third parties to go after ISWAP.
Nigeria Government couldn't betray militants because of economical benefit.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by giles14(m): 12:05am On Mar 30, 2021
iblawi:

My brother SU57 is build to be even superior to F-35. Forget western propaganda.

Only the F-22 would be superior to SU57 and maybe some secret stealth fighter in US.
F22 superior to Su57?
Pls stop.
In what parameter would the F22 be superior?
Forget all the hollywood propaganda .

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