₦airaland Forum

Penguin2:
If my assertion of Abiola false in it's totality, why did Igbos not vote for him in the 1993 election?

And about your implied suggestion of SW being capital of Christianity in Nigeria, I need to let you understand that does not count in any way.

That Ajayi Crowther influenced the building of first Cathedral in Abeokuta is not the issue, the question is, where is Christianity in the West today? Today, Muslims and Christians now take turn to be governors in Lagos, Osun and Oyo. Something you won't find in the East. Is that the capital you talk about?

Turkey is the home country of the Blessed Virgin Mary. But where are they today in Christian discourse?

Algeria is the home country of St Augustine of Hippo. But where is Algeria today in Christian calendar?

We are seeing the Christianity in the east today now, that is why profetes pounds little children for ritual purposes.

This guy and his shit threads

I don't understand why igbos always see those who tells them the truth as haters,a typical igbos has this terrible attitudes
1. Inferiority complex
2.never respect their host communities
3.pride
4. Boasting, always see every yorubas as cowards while seeing themselves as warriors,until you change it for them,they quickly term you as haters
5.claiming that a land is no man's land
6. Quickly believe propaganda as much as it feeds their ego etc

Penguin2:
Since Independence, only one Yoruba man has succeeded in ruling Nigeria, and has done that twice, and that's Olusegun Obasanjo. First as a military Head of State between 1976 and 1979 and secondly as a democratically elected president between 1999 and 2007. But guess what, Obasanjo is ironically the only Yoruba leader who is not an Igbo hater. In fact, during his Presidency he worked with a lot of Igbo brains which helped his presidency succeed; from Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala to Charles Soludo to Oby Ezekwesili, et al.

Now let's mirror other Yoruba leaders who have even been more popular but thought the Igbo race were for the crushing how their dreams of ruling Nigeria turned.

OBAFEMI AWOLOWO

One of the Nationalists and champions of independence, Awolowo is famed for being the originator of ethnic politics in Nigeria when he prevented Nnamdi Azikiwe whose party, the NCNC, won majority at the Western House of Assembly, from becoming premier of Western Region purely on tribal and primordial sentiments.

Again during the Nigeria-Biafra civil war, Awolowo, who was Minister of Finance then, made hunger a weapon of war against the East which led to the malnourishment and death of over 1million Igbo children. And at the end of the war, it was Awolowo who sat over the policy that every Igbo be give 20 pounds irrespective of what he had in the bank.

There you have it. Awolowo thought he could ride to the presidency on the back of Igbo hatred and subservience to northern oligarchy but it all ended a pipe dream with some conspiracy theorists claiming he drank rat poison and died a shameful death.

MKO ABIOLA

Not much is in the press of Abiola's anti-Igbo sentiments but it has been claimed that Abiola once threatened to sink a ship freighting Bible into Nigeria; a direct attack at the East which is predominantly Christian.

His anti-Igbo sentiments may have been reason why Bashir Torfa seemed to have garnered more votes in the East than Abiola did.

Yes. Abiola "won" but never became president. And so was the end of the dream of another Yoruba Igbo hater.

Now, as 2023 draws near, another Yoruba leader, Tinubu, is positioning to take his chances at the country's top post, riding on the back of Igbo hatred and some of kinsmen and footsoldiers are cheering him on.

One of the greatest lessons of history is that it teaches us that men do not learn anything from history.

And so like Awolowo like MKO Abiola and so would be Ahmed Bola Tinubu since he has chosen to toe the line of infamy.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

How many Igbos have succeeded to be Nigeria’s President with or without Yoruba support?

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Penguin2:
Yes, while that can be dismissed as politics which is understandable, one other reason Tinubu led SW against GEJ was because it was thought that GEJ's govt was favouring Igbos and u know it.

Penguin2:
Yes, while that can be dismissed as politics which is understandable, one other reason Tinubu led SW against GEJ was because it was thought that GEJ's govt was favouring Igbos and u know it.

Penguin2:
Yes, while that can be dismissed as politics which is understandable, one other reason Tinubu led SW against GEJ was because it was thought that GEJ's govt was favouring Igbos and u know it.

you saying trash.

Penguin2:
Yes, while that can be dismissed as politics which is understandable, one other reason Tinubu led SW against GEJ was because it was thought that GEJ's govt was favouring Igbos and u know it.

That is why it is difficult to discuss productively and logically with an Igbo man i.e the mentality of "they hate us" you all carry around that totally destroys your objectivity.

If Tinubu wanted GEJ out for the reason you adduce alone, then why did he work even extra hard before that to get rid of PDP governors throughout the SW? Abi the protégé of Gbenga Daniel is Igbo? Alao Akala is from Anambra ba?

Someone gave you the perfectly logical answer that matches Tinubu's history, i.e Tinubu wants wins for his Party always, but you had to reject that because of your victim and seige mentality. You guys are irredeemable.

A waste of time completely.

Lol.

Orisirisi

Penguin2:
Nothing really concerns you with what is happening between Igbos and the Efiks in Calabar. It's a family matter that will be settled amicably.

You should concern yourself with how the Sarkin Fulani of Sasha is rated above the Baale of Sasha.

You are a deaf and dumb Penguin 2. You mean you didn't hear OLUBADAN'S SETTLEMENTS?

5% people

Penguin2:
Are you talking about your consters?

Your Daddy GOs?

The gods of men?

The charlatans who take from poor gullible people to buy private jets and build "stadia" of 50,000 capacity instead of building industries and factories?

Shouldn't you be ashamed of them?

That scammer called odumeje is a disgrace to christendom. Mention any living or dead igbo pastors that could match Adeboye or oyedepo or kumuyi or T.B Joshua in terms of wits and grace. All the largest churches known in Nigeria are being headed by Yoruba pastors. Bring your proofs that odumeje is more purer than Adeboye or oyedepo or keep shut for life.

Penguin2:
If my assertion of Abiola false in it's totality, why did Igbos not vote for him in the 1993 election?

And about your implied suggestion of SW being capital of Christianity in Nigeria, I need to let you understand that does not count in any way.

That Ajayi Crowther influenced the building of first Cathedral in Abeokuta is not the issue, the question is, where is Christianity in the West today? Today, Muslims and Christians now take turn to be governors in Lagos, Osun and Oyo. Something you won't find in the East. Is that the capital you talk about?

Turkey is the home country of the Blessed Virgin Mary. But where are they today in Christian discourse?

Algeria is the home country of St Augustine of Hippo. But where is Algeria today in Christian calendar?

To assume that because MKO didn’t win the SE because he hates SE is totally flawed logic. Politics is all about interests, If SE thinks their interest is better protected by another party they’ll vote for who will protect their interests.

Let’s not argue facts! As far as Christianity is concerned in Nigeria SW holds the ace. I think you should be more worried that politician would rather focus on south south for votes during electioneering than south East..you know why?

lionshare:
To assume that because MKO didn’t win the SE because he hates SE is totally flawed logic. Politics is all about interests, If SE thinks their interest is better protected by another party they’ll vote for who will protect their interests.

Let’s not argue facts! As far as Christianity is concerned in Nigeria SW holds the ace. I think you should be more worried that politician would rather focus on south south for votes during electioneering than south East..you know why?

So, what informed the SE's thinking that their interest would better be protected by another party?

You think it's the party's manifesto or the persons of the candidates?

Because you and I know that every decision and choice is informed by something, either real or imagined.

Penguin2:
So, what informed the SE's thinking that their interest would better be protected by another party?

You think it's the party's manifesto or the persons of the candidates?

Because you and I know that every decision and choice is informed by something, either real or imagined.

Do you know the running mate of Bashir Tofa?

Pls google: Sylvester Ugoh

Can we agree that on the basis of personality of the candidates it’s logical that SE votes for their own?

lionshare:
Do you know the running mate of Bashir Tofa?

Pls google: Sylvester Ugoh

Can we agree that on the basis of personality of the candidates it’s logical that SE votes for their own?

Buhari ran for the presidency twice in 2003 and 2007 with an Igbo running mate.

Please can you remind me again who Igbos voted for in those two occasions?

these IPOB are irredeemable
The lies and propaganda they propagate is very shameful

Penguin2:
Yes, while that can be dismissed as politics which is understandable, one other reason Tinubu led SW against GEJ was because it was thought that GEJ's govt was favouring Igbos and u know it.

Interesting...
Let us forget the fact that GEJ was/is PDP and Tinubu is APC (2 difderent political parties contesting against each other and other parties). Let us forget the fact that Tinubu's party (ACN) contested against PDP+GEJ in 2011 and lost. Finally, let us even assume that what you say is true.

My question to you is how in the name of all that is logical does that translate into hating Igbo? How?

Mariory:
Interesting...
Let us forget the fact that GEJ was/is PDP and Tinubu is APC (2 difderent political parties contesting against each other and other parties). Let us forget the fact that Tinubu's party (ACN) contested against PDP+GEJ in 2011 and lost. Finally, let us even assume that what you say is true.

My question to you is how in the name of all that is logical does that translate into hating Igbo? How?

They accused GEJ of appointing the first Igbo Chief of Army Staff since the war.

The SGF was Igbo.

The coordinating Minister of the economy was Igbo.

Then voom, Yorubas started crying marginalization.

Penguin2:
They accused GEJ of appointing the first Igbo Chief of Army Staff since the war.

The SGF was Igbo.

The coordinating Minister of the economy was Igbo.

Then voom, Yorubas started crying marginalization.

this your persecution complex of "they hate us" is what is ruining u n your relationship with every other tribe in Nigeria

Are u the only tribe in Nigeria for crying out loud?

y always u

u people are too proud, arrogant, unnecessarily aggressive, n see no good in others.

u are the same people that hates northerners,yorubas n Niger Delta n u wonder y people don't like u.

u are having problems with virtually all the tribes in Nigeria.

Hausa man gave u quit notice
Yoruba man is tired of u
Rivers people don tire for your matter
cross river people are complaining
even India n south Africa isn't left out.

y is everyone having problem with u?

y do u find it hard to respect your host?

Penguin2:
They accused GEJ of appointing the first Igbo Chief of Army Staff since the war.

The SGF was Igbo.

The coordinating Minister of the economy was Igbo.

Then voom, Yorubas started crying marginalization.

Ok so Yorubas cried of marginalization within GEJ's administration. So where is the Igbo hatred? You still haven't answered that question?

hollah123:
this your persecution complex of "they hate us" is what is ruining u n your relationship with every other tribe in Nigeria

Are u the only tribe in Nigeria for crying out loud?

y always u

u people are too proud, arrogant, unnecessarily aggressive, n see no good in others.

u are the same people that hates northerners,yorubas n Niger Delta n u wonder y people don't like u.

u are having problems with virtually all the tribes in Nigeria.

Hausa man gave u quit notice
Yoruba man is tired of u
Rivers people don tire for your matter
cross river people are complaining
even India n south Africa isn't left out.

y is everyone having problem with u?

y do u find it hard to respect your host?

Our hosts feel threatened by our achievements.

But point of correction, we at not having issues with every tribe. We have issues with individual Igbo haters in whichever tribe.

We like Fayose.
We like Zulum.
We like Fashola because we admire his capacity.
We like Sanusi for his ability to speak truth to power.

We only hate bigots.

Mariory:
Ok. So where is the Igbo hatred? You still haven't answered that question?

If someone is uncomfortable with what favours you, what do you call it?

Penguin2:
If someone is uncomfortable with what favours you, what do you call it?

You're joking right. So no one should contest elections again once Igbos are benefitting? Because that would mean they hate Igbos.

Surely, you are joking right?

Mariory:
You're joking right. So no one should contest elections again once Igbos are benefitting? Because that would mean they hate Igbos.

Surely, you are joking right?

Really?

I guess it won't be a joke when Igbos choose to vote who they want in 2023.

Penguin2:
Really?

I guess it won't be a joke when Igbos choose to vote who they want in 2023.

That's how it's always been. That's how it should be. That's how it works.

Are you sure of the bolded, how.many state were contested and how many did NCNC win?. Please use your Google and come back and reply me. Because nobody is responding to a lie doesn't make it a fact.

Penguin2:
Since Independence, only one Yoruba man has succeeded in ruling Nigeria, and has done that twice, and that's Olusegun Obasanjo. First as a military Head of State between 1976 and 1979 and secondly as a democratically elected president between 1999 and 2007. But guess what, Obasanjo is ironically the only Yoruba leader who is not an Igbo hater. In fact, during his Presidency he worked with a lot of Igbo brains which helped his presidency succeed; from Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala to Charles Soludo to Oby Ezekwesili, et al.

Now let's mirror other Yoruba leaders who have even been more popular but thought the Igbo race were for the crushing how their dreams of ruling Nigeria turned.

OBAFEMI AWOLOWO

One of the Nationalists and champions of independence, Awolowo is famed for being the originator of ethnic politics in Nigeria when he prevented[b] Nnamdi Azikiwe whose party, the NCNC, won majority at the Western House of Assembly, from[/b] becoming premier of Western Region purely on tribal and primordial sentiments.

Again during the Nigeria-Biafra civil war, Awolowo, who was Minister of Finance then, made hunger a weapon of war against the East which led to the malnourishment and death of over 1million Igbo children. And at the end of the war, it was Awolowo who sat over the policy that every Igbo be give 20 pounds irrespective of what he had in the bank.

There you have it. Awolowo thought he could ride to the presidency on the back of Igbo hatred and subservience to northern oligarchy but it all ended a pipe dream with some conspiracy theorists claiming he drank rat poison and died a shameful death.

MKO ABIOLA

Not much is in the press of Abiola's anti-Igbo sentiments but it has been claimed that Abiola once threatened to sink a ship freighting Bible into Nigeria; a direct attack at the East which is predominantly Christian.

His anti-Igbo sentiments may have been reason why Bashir Torfa seemed to have garnered more votes in the East than Abiola did.

Yes. Abiola "won" but never became president. And so was the end of the dream of another Yoruba Igbo hater.

Now, as 2023 draws near, another Yoruba leader, Tinubu, is positioning to take his chances at the country's top post, riding on the back of Igbo hatred and some of kinsmen and footsoldiers are cheering him on.

One of the greatest lessons of history is that it teaches us that men do not learn anything from history.

And so like Awolowo like MKO Abiola and so would be Ahmed Bola Tinubu since he has chosen to toe the line of infamy.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

Penguin2:
Really?

I guess it won't be a joke when Igbos choose to vote who they want in 2023.

Can you just keep quiet, you guys make the most noise and yet you are the least relevant, carry Yoruba matter for head like gala. Go and vote for your northern masters in 2023 and stop threatening us with your irrelevant 5% votes.

jahrule:
Are you sure of the bolded, how.many state were contested and how many did NCNC win?. Please use your Google and come back and reply me. Because nobody is responding to a lie doesn't make it a fact.

I know about that fact since 2007 in my SS1.

NCNC won majority in the election.

There's no doubt about it.

No one is arguing it.

bakynes:
You are asking where is Christainity in the West? All the Major Churches in Nigeria today are domiciled in the SW. With some of the world recognized Prophet and Pastors from the SW. Early Christain missionaries started from Yorubaland before they moved to Efik land.
South Easterners may be homogenous Christians but in terms of Christainity, SW is way ahead of you.

Remove Igbo's from those major churches let's see how it fares....

If care is not taken Muslim Yoruba's might be more than the christian Yoruba's... The most confused tribe in Nigeria when it comes to religion...

hollah123:
this your persecution complex of "they hate us" is what is ruining u n your relationship with every other tribe in Nigeria

Are u the only tribe in Nigeria for crying out loud?

y always u

u people are too proud, arrogant, unnecessarily aggressive, n see no good in others.

u are the same people that hates northerners,yorubas n Niger Delta n u wonder y people don't like u.

u are having problems with virtually all the tribes in Nigeria.

Hausa man gave u quit notice
Yoruba man is tired of u
Rivers people don tire for your matter
cross river people are complaining
even India n south Africa isn't left out.

y is everyone having problem with u?

y do u find it hard to respect your host?

Because Igbos are an arrogant, unreasonable, covetous and difficult people even if they will never admit such to themselves. The proof is in their consistent behavior over many decades.

Jackson105:
Can you just keep quiet, you guys make the most noise and yet you are the least relevant, carry Yoruba matter for head like gala. Go and vote for your northern masters in 2023 and stop threatening us with your irrelevant 5% votes.

Very irritating ingrates. Yoruba land is their second biggest home in the whole universe yet Yorubas are the same people Igbos alone, out of over 100 ethnic groups in the SW, are obsessed with beefing and attempting to ridicule or undermine.

It is only naive Yorubas who do not understand that it is deep envy of the Yorubas and the desire to have everything they do is what is behind Igbo people's malevolent obsession with Yorubas.