I know Isoko are of Edo ethnicity.
But this story of oghene and ife which you guys are trying to promote is already proven to be false. But of course your only argument is your claim of ethnic affiliation.
Anybody can claim any ethnicity online.

Nicho118:


'Oghene' is an urhobo/isoko word for 'god'
it is used when translating the word 'god' regardless of the god the phrase is referring to.

I have proven your statement to be false, but you guys are extremely deluded and would keep arguing something already proven to be false.

Oghene comes from Orgvne in this map:

Nicho118:


'Oghene' is an urhobo/isoko word for 'god'
it is used when translating the word 'god' regardless of the god the phrase is referring to.

what we call 'Almighty God' is 'Osonobruwhe'

Yeah OGHENE IS URHOBO:”/ISOKO WORD FOR GOD ALMIGHTY. G silent in isoko;h silent in urhobo.
90% of People in My ISOKO VILLAGE ENWHE including the royal king family have an edo heritage.
some other isoko villages like igbide in isoko south are related to the ingbidis .
I can only speak for myself and my isoko village of origin;Enhwe

You can't force a donkey into the water, the same way, you can't force deluded people into using their brains correctly. They will see the sky is blue but keep arguing that it is actually green.

Truthshots2:


I have proven your statement to be false, but you guys are extremely deluded and would keep arguing something already proven to be false.

Oghene comes from Orgvne in this map:

what map is that?
and what language are those words written in?

Truthshotcrazy:

Yeah OGHENE IS URHOBO:”/ISOKO WORD FOR GOD ALMIGHTY. G silent in isoko;h silent in urhobo.
90% of People in My ISOKO VILLAGE ENWHE including the royal king family have an edo heritage.
some other isoko villages like igbide in isoko south are related to the ingbidis .
I can only speak for myself and my isoko village of origin;Enhwe

dude, Oghene is not Almighty God in urhobo

Nicho118:



what map is that?

Is there an actual answer to this question ?
Or am I supposed to read your mind ?

Nicho118:



and what language are those words written in?

A link to the map

https://www.raremaps.com/category/Maps/Africa/West_Africa

All your normal questions have answers in this link.

Truthshots2:

A link to the map
https://www.raremaps.com/category/Maps/Africa/West_Africa
All your normal questions have answers in this link.

mere coincidence

Truthshots2:
I know Isoko are of Edo ethnicity.
But this story of oghene and ife which you guys are trying to promote is already proven to be false. But of course your only argument is your claim of ethnic affiliation.
Anybody can claim any ethnicity online.

Not all isokos are of edo ethnicity.
Every isoko village has a rich history of how it was formed.
An IGBIDE MAN in isoko south for example ,WILL TELL U HIS VILLAGE IGBIDE IS OF INGBIDI ETHNICITY,an Igbo language place.
AN ENHWE MAN IN ISOKO SOUTH including the royal Enhwe family FOR EXAMPLE WILL TELL YOU HE IS OF EDO ETHNICITY.&
So You can’t just lump all isoko groups as of a particular ethnicity unless you ask of the isoko town lst;to learn of its history
I would rather get a copy of the late Oba of Benin eredieuwa’s “Sir l remain your humble servant” to learn about the priest called ooni today & if he was once referred to as an Oghene & believe the late Oba of Benin account over your slave masters distorted version . One of these cultures also have the Ogene dance or so

Nicho118:



mere coincidence

While some people were searching for a cure for Ebola, they should have also searched for a cure for delusion.

Nicho118:


dude, Oghene is not Almighty God in urhobo

Is Oghene small God in urhobo then
Or you people also refer to idols/gods as oghene
I have never been opportuned to meet idol worshippers,tho.
But the word for GOD in heaven is Oghene in isoko and urhobo. G is silent in isoko. H is silent in urhobo.
OGHENE DOH!!!!! & that is what we use to sing and dance in isoko/urhobo churches to address God in Heaven

Truthshotcrazy:

Not all isokos are of edo ethnicity.
Every isoko village has a rich history of how it was formed.
An IGBIDE MAN in isoko south for example ,WILL TELL U HIS VILLAGE IGBIDE IS OF INGBIDI ETHNICITY,an Igbo language place.
AN ENHWE MAN IN ISOKO SOUTH including the royal Enhwe family FOR EXAMPLE WILL TELL YOU HE IS OF EDO ETHNICITY.&
So You can’t just lump all isoko groups as of a particular ethnicity unless you ask
I would rather get a copy of the late Oba of Benin eredieuwa’s “Sir l remain your humble servant” to learn about the priest called ooni today & if he was once referred to as an Oghene & believe the late Oba of Benin account over your slave masters distorted version . One of these cultures also have the Ogene dance or so

1) history doesn't work the way you think.
2) history is the study of eyewitness written documents.
3) you study Julius Cesare through texts written by those who witnessed Julius Caesar
4) there is no precolonial text linking Benin empire to Ife village.
5) You need to go to school where someone like me would teach you.

Truthshotcrazy:

Is Oghene small God in urhobo then
Or you people also refer to gods as oghene
I have never been opportune to meet idol worshippers,tho.
But the word for GOD in heaven is Oghene in isoko and urhobo. G is silent in isoko. H is silent in urhobo.
OGHENE DOH!!!!!

Oghene is the translation of the word 'god'
whether it is your oracle or your God in heaven... they are all 'Oghene' or 'Orise', Igbe people uses the words 'Oghene' and 'Orise' a lot

the urhobo word for the Almighty God in heaven is 'Osonobruwhe'

Truthshots2:


1) history doesn't work the way you think.
2) history is the study of eyewitness vwritten documents.
3) you study Jule Cesare through texts written by those who witnessed Julius Caesar
4) there is no precolonial text linking Benin empire to Ife village.
5) You need to go to school where someone like me would teach you.

You sound more like an educated illiterate,a keyboard warrior running his mouth online about everybody’s culture. I would rather get the late Oba’s book than subscribing to your useless unaccredited unregistered quack class.

Nicho118:


Oghene is the translation of the word 'god'
whether it is your oracle or your God in heaven... they are all 'Oghene' or 'Orise', Igbe people uses the words 'Oghene' and 'Orise' a lot

the urhobo word for the Almighty God in heaven is 'Osonobruwhe'

Why do urhobo/isoko christian songs still sing and dance OGHENE DOH
& still give names like OGHENEKEVWE OGHENETEGA ESEOGHENE
-so u mean they are thanking gods?
P.S God’s gift/God has gifted me is OGHENEKEVWE IN URHOBO AND OKEOGHENE or OGHENEKOME I.N ISOKO.
My question is if OGHENE IS gods why do you still use that prefix in naming Christian children today?

Truthshotcrazy:

You sound more like an educated illiterate,a keyboard warrior running his mouth online about everybody’s culture. I would rather get the late Oba’s book than subscribing to your useless unaccredited unregistered quack class.

I never said you shouldn't get the book of the great Oba of Benin. I was only informing you about how history works and what it is.
Oba Erediawa was a great emperor, very well educated and extremely intelligent. I would have been extremely proud to have him as my teacher.

As for you, you wouldn't qualify to be my student, you are not smart enough and not rich enough. I even doubt that your best teacher would qualify to be my student.

Truthshotcrazy:


Why do urhobo/isoko christian songs still sing and dance OGHENE DOH
& still give names like OGHENEKEVWE OGHENETEGA ESEOGHENE
-so u mean they are thanking gods?
P.S God’s gift/God has gifted me is OGHENEKEVWE IN URHOBO AND OKEOGHENE I.N ISOKO.
My question is if OGHENE IS gods why do you still use that prefix in naming Christian children today?

You still haven't understand me..
'Oghene' is the word for god in urhobo...
when you used the word 'oghene' it implies that you are talking about the God you believe in.
even Igbe people use it.

Truthshots2:


I never said you shouldn't get the book of the great Oba of Benin. I was only informing you about how history works and what it is.
Oba Erediawa was a great emperor, very well educated and extremely intelligent. I would have been extremely proud to have him as my teacher.

As for you, you wouldn't qualify to be my student, you are not smart enough and not rich enough. I even doubt that your best teacher would qualify to be my student.

You should definitively leave a link to your LinkedIn profile and a link to your publications in accredited journals so l can compare your quack degrees to those of my best lecturer.

Truthshotcrazy:

You sound more like an educated illiterate,a keyboard warrior running his mouth online about everybody’s culture. I would rather get the late Oba’s book than subscribing to your useless unaccredited unregistered quack class.

I dont know who needs to here this, but hear me clear!!, if i be a man of wisdom, then you must listen to me, when i say something

Truthshotcrazy:

You should definitively leave a link to your LinkedIn profile and a link to your publications in accredited journals so l can compare your quack degrees to those of my best lecturer.

Where did the best of your "lecturers" study ?
The best of your lecturers would be too qualified to end up teaching in Nigeria if he had my pedigree.

Why am I even wasting time to reply a person with such low self-esteem who basically names himself by an insult to me ?

Nicho118:


You still haven't understand me..
'Oghene' is the word for god in urhobo...
when you used the word 'oghene' it implies that you are talking about the God you believe in.
even Igbe people use it.

Haba! I have never come in physical contact with urhobo or isoko lgbe idol worshippers,tho.
I am isoko by the way.& God is OGHENE too. I know g is silent In Isoko languuage pronounciation of the spelling . & h is silent in the urhobo pronounciation. Same spellings.
Oghene is even in the lsoko bible too.
Now that l know idol Igbe worshippers also call their gods Oghene;l feel like puking

Lol. Crazy people on this forum

One mumu is still bringing European maps of the 18th century, when Europeans never left the coast, to draw conclusion on Benin's boundaries when no boundaries are even indicated on said map

macof:
Lol. Crazy people on this forum

One mumu is still bringing European maps of the 18th century, when Europeans never left the coast, to draw conclusion on Benin's boundaries when no boundaries are even indicated on said map

1) the Europeans did leave the coast and explore the region, they even have many books about their explorations and that is how they made their maps in general.

2) the map which I posted here is from the 16th century, but a fake historian like you can't tell the difference between 16th century and 18th century.

3) I clearly stated that the map is fictional and I gave the reasons

4) Benin doesn't actually appear on the map.

5) All this makes me wonder what the hell you are smoking, when you are high on some cheap drugs, try and avoid social media.

gregyboy:
This is repulsive and a slap to made up cultural laws

The 1979 edict says only prince born by either a benin or itsekiri woman could be made king but none of this prince's made the requirement as all their mothers are Yorubas, the iyasere should have occupied till the prince's heir makes the requirement

Now the stool has been defied and no respect for the royal law

You are very right, this is nothing short of a coup.
Not following the law is criminal and I am sure the courts will strike this unlawful act out. Also, 5 high chiefs are supposed to be involved in the process of selecting the new Olu, but only 2 of them were involved in this one. The highest of the chiefs, the Ologbotsere was illegally suspended by lower ranking chiefs who did not have the authority to do so... All this just points to a coup, these guys are on a mission to usurp the throne of the Olu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB2EprGbTJ8

Truthshots2:


1) the Europeans did leave the coast and explore the region, they even have many books about their explorations and that is how they made their maps in general.

2) the map which I posted here is from the 16th century, but a fake historian like you can't tell the difference between 16th century and 18th century.

3) I clearly stated that the map is fictional and I gave the reasons

4) Benin doesn't actually appear on the map.

5) All this makes me wonder what the hell you are smoking, when you are high on some cheap drugs, try and avoid social media.

As usual the expression of a useless lowlife with a brain defect and no direction in life. Isn't your entire life's worth based on Nairaland from one moniker to another. When you get owned on this one you will delete it and open another one to keep posting the same trash all over again, how many times have I attempted to educate your silly self? But you are beyond being educated or informed. I have trashed this nonsense notion of European maps with you last year and the year before, given sources that state clearly that Europeans only began to fully explore the hinterland in the 19th century but basket brain here can't learn anything
Here's another article saying the same thing

I don't have time for your nonsense this year.. So take your trashy existential insignificance out of my mentions

observanc1:
i say itsekiri nation, where chief ologbosere was from. Itsekiri nation was part of benin kingdom. Is itsekiri not part of warri?

itsekiri is not part of Benin kingdom, more than 500 yrs ago, some people migrated from ile ife to this region know as warri, then a prince from benin which his chiefs came from Benin to the same region, the people from ile ife pledge allegiance to the prince n they formed the iwerre kingdom, while the name of the tribe was itsekiri.

So the kingdom was name is iwerre and the name tribe itsekiri. The iwerre nation has grown and mixed with other kingdom now. And it's what we know as warri today.

So the itsekiri nation was never part of the Benin kingdom

macof:


As usual the expression of a useless lowlife with a brain defect and no direction in life. Isn't your entire life's worth based on Nairaland from one moniker to another. When you get owned on this one you will delete it and open another one to keep posting the same trash all over again, how many times have I attempted to educate your silly self? But you are beyond being educated or informed. I have trashed this nonsense notion of European maps with you last year and the year before, given sources that state clearly that Europeans only began to fully explore the hinterland in the 19th century but basket brain here can't learn anything
Here's another article saying the same thing

I don't have time for your nonsense this year.. So take your trashy existential insignificance out of my mentions

1) when posting a paper, you need to actually give the paper in full, and it's source and the website hosting it for further investigation. Just posting a snapshot of a piece of an "article" is utterly meaningless. Even the date of publication and the author are not provided whereas you should have provided the entire document and a link to the website hosting it.

2) you still don't understand that history is the study of historical documents and by that I mean documents written by eyewitness, not documents recently written by people who claim to know what happened thousands of years before they were born. That is called myth.

3) the Europeans visited the interior of Africa, that is how they made very precise maps. There is not even any question about that. Well I would admit it depends on what you call interior of Africa, by interior I am referring to at least the entirety (more or less) of the land mass which we call Nigeria today. These places were visited by the Europeans as early as the 15th century.

4) you seem to be very emotionnally triggered given that 90% of your write-up is just insults.
Is it because I schooled you and exposed you as a fraud several times ? You basically have a concept of history in which historical documents should be thrown away and stories told by people who were born several hundred years after the story they claim to tell should be uplifted.

5) Below is a detailed map from 1658:

https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/70656/a-new-plaine-exact-mapp-of-africa-described-by-ni-vi-walton

macof:
Lol. Crazy people on this forum

One mumu is still bringing European maps of the 18th century, when Europeans never left the coast, to draw conclusion on Benin's boundaries when no boundaries are even indicated on said map

Guy u don't know what u are saying, the Portuguese did left the coast and interacted with the itsekiri, in fact they even married itsekiri people.

macof:


As usual the expression of a useless lowlife with a brain defect and no direction in life. Isn't your entire life's worth based on Nairaland from one moniker to another. When you get owned on this one you will delete it and open another one to keep posting the same trash all over again, how many times have I attempted to educate your silly self? But you are beyond being educated or informed. I have trashed this nonsense notion of European maps with you last year and the year before, given sources that state clearly that Europeans only began to fully explore the hinterland in the 19th century but basket brain here can't learn anything
Here's another article saying the same thing

I don't have time for your nonsense this year.. So take your trashy existential insignificance out of my mentions

you just posted a screenshot with no source and expect anyone to take u serious

Nicho118:


do you want proof? Go read the letter Dore Numa sent to the people of agbassa after acquiring their land with Ogbe Ijoh lands to form the old Warri Township courtesy of the British.

which letter, the one u forged.