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gallivant:


There is no substance or sources for the stuff you say. Give it a rest.

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When Kenya peak demand is 2000MW and supply is 3000MW - what is extra power called - buffer - takes care of system losses and leave more for it.
Now having installed theoritical capacity of 5000MW - but generally being unable to produce half of it - is NIGERIA
Ghana can only turn half the turbines - any given time - so 2,500MW
And peak demand is around 2,000MW
Therefore if you remove system losses - your NETWORK is bound to COLLAPSE every few days like it's doing now.

DUMSOR
Sound DUMB

Just30:
WE ARE SUPPLYING POWER just fine to every part of Ghana.

So again, you have exposed yourself, your country does not have a buffer because of an inefficient capacity.

rvp2018:
Ghana REAL POWER/Electricity situation

With installed electricity capacity over 4,000 MW, actual availability rarely exceeding 2,400 MW, and peak load at about 2,200 MW, power cuts and load shedding should be unlikely. Today, however, power cuts are not uncommon in Ghana although the situation is much better today than during the 2012 – 2015 period, commonly known in Ghana as “dumsor” -- . an expression that translates as “off-on”. In the thick of the power crisis, within a 36-hour period, 79 98 45 89 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 Access to Electricity in 2017 (%) Ghanaians were guaranteed 12 to 13 hours of power supply. In addition, faulty equipment ensured that ‘surprise’ power outages also added to the misery of Ghanaians.

We are in 2021 and you are still quoting 2015 figures?

For instance, Ghana has generation capacity of 5400MW and peak demand of 3600MW as at 2020 at least

rvp2018:
When Kenya peak demand is 2000MW and supply is 3000MW - what is extra power called - buffer - takes care of system losses and leave more for it.
Now having installed theoritical capacity of 5000MW - but generally being unable to produce half of it - is NIGERIA
Ghana can only turn half the turbines - any given time - so 2,500MW
And peak demand is around 2,000MW
Therefore if you remove system losses - your NETWORK is bound to COLLAPSE every few days like it's doing now.

DUMSOR
Sound DUMB

Can you show where generation capacity in your country is quoted at 3000mw?

Can you show us when peak demand in your country reached 2000MW?

The power grid in Kenya collapse at least 5 times every year.


Ghana peak demand in 2020 was 3600MW and growing at 300MW per annum.
This is 2021 so we should be at 3900MW

that is, 3900mw of power being supplied at peak demand periods.

My network has only collapsed once in the last 5 years and we have had 6 intermittent power outages since the year began lasting not more than 30 minute.



Unfortunately, Kenya cannot enjoy this level of stability as rolling blackouts take out your country by surprise

Just30:
Can you show where generation capacity in your country is quoted at 3000mw?

Can you show us when peak demand in your country reached 2000MW?

The power grid in Kenya collapse at least 5 times every year.


Ghana peak demand in 2020 was 3600MW and growing at 300MW per annum.
This is 2021 so we should be at 3900MW

that is, 3900mw of power being supplied at peak demand periods.

My network has only collapsed once in the last 5 years and we have had 6 intermittent power outages since the year began lasting not more than 30 minute.



Unfortunately, Kenya cannot enjoy this level of stability as rolling blackouts take out your country by surprise

Resident liar at it again.

popizaino:
Resident liar at it again.

Just facts liar in Cheif

Get used to speaking facts

I quoted 2020 data.

Just30:
We are in 2021 and you are still quoting 2015 figures?

For instance, Ghana has generation capacity of 5400MW and peak demand of 3600MW as at 2020 at least

rvp2018:
I quoted 2020 data.

you mean you got a 2015 data

because that was when we had 4000mw

I rather listen to US gov than your usual nonsense. Ghana is currently undergoing dumsor. Dude in kenya we last had load shedding last generation - in fact most current generation do not know what load shedding is. We only lose power due to maintenance (MOST PLACES HAVE LIVE MAINTANANCE), really bad weather, transformer breakdown. NEVER LOAD SHEDDIN

Ghana currently has over 4,000 MW of installed generation capacity, though actual availability rarely exceeds 2,400 MW due to changing hydrological conditions, inadequate fuel supplies and dilapidated infrastructure. With a significant endowment of natural gas and renewable energy to generate electricity Ghana is poised to overcome these constraints.

Just30:
Can you show where generation capacity in your country is quoted at 3000mw?

Can you show us when peak demand in your country reached 2000MW?

The power grid in Kenya collapse at least 5 times every year.


Ghana peak demand in 2020 was 3600MW and growing at 300MW per annum.
This is 2021 so we should be at 3900MW

that is, 3900mw of power being supplied at peak demand periods.

My network has only collapsed once in the last 5 years and we have had 6 intermittent power outages since the year began lasting not more than 30 minute.



Unfortunately, Kenya cannot enjoy this level of stability as rolling blackouts take out your country by surprise

Nigeria installed capacity is 12,000mw or more but rarely do they do more than 3,000MW.

Installed capacity is nothing to shout about. What matters is the power that actually flows on your power lines

Just give us figures of 1) GWHs - latest 2) Peak power demand

And finally why are you having load shedding nearly every day in 2021.

Just30:
you mean you got a 2015 data

because that was when we had 4000mw

rvp2018:
I rather listen to US gov than your usual nonsense. Ghana is currently undergoing dumsor. Dude in kenya we last had load shedding last generation - in fact most current generation do not know what load shedding is. We only lose power due to maintenance (MOST PLACES HAVE LIVE MAINTANANCE), really bad weather, transformer breakdown. NEVER LOAD SHEDDIN

Ghana currently has over 4,000 MW of installed generation capacity, though actual availability rarely exceeds 2,400 MW due to changing hydrological conditions, inadequate fuel supplies and dilapidated infrastructure. With a significant endowment of natural gas and renewable energy to generate electricity Ghana is poised to overcome these constraints.

Again you are quoting something from 2015 when capacity was 4000mw and peak demand was 2400mw.


Kenya is under serious power crisis and you are still here making noise

Ghana last heard of dumsor in 2015

Nope. I cannot teach your english comprehnsion. Read again. This time slowly.

Kenya power crisis ended in 2001: that was when we depended on Hydro - and we got drought. We quickly fix it by doing emergency thermal plants = but unlike Ghana - we never that was NOT the long term solution.

We went big on geothermal.

Now most of our power is HIGH QUALITY GEOTHERMAL power.

Why would geothermal ever GO DOWN There is no gas or diesel; it's just water pumped down the earth crust and it shots back as steam; turn turbines; all day long; we can never run out of power.

Just30:
Again you are quoting something from 2015 when capacity was 4000mw and peak demand was 2400mw.


Kenya is under serious power crisis and you are still here making noise

Ghana last heard of dumsor in 2015

Ghana - when will you get to live maintenance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVDjMbPo5pA

or have stand by choppers for fixing power. My cousin work on the chopper team - I doubt if your power company has helicopters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvunEoHX5Ks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBAIGrDdBaE

rvp2018:
Nigeria installed capacity is 12,000mw or more but rarely do they do more than 3,000MW.

Installed capacity is nothing to shout about. What matters is the power that actually flows on your power lines

Just give us figures of 1) GWHs - latest 2) Peak power demand

And finally why are you having load shedding nearly every day in 2021.

we dont have load shedding



Peak demand in Ghana as at last year was 3600MW ( almost 2 times of Kenya peak demand).

Without a source; you're just wasting your time; your credibility is almost zero.

You have LOAD SHEDDING; you gov is just afraid to say so because they attacked Mahama for dumsor.

Load shedding is when power is not enough on the grid - for any reason - if power plant goes down - and you have to ration power. Emergency problems should not last more than few hours...and not everday.

Load shedding is POWER RATIONING - deliberate cutting of supply

Just30:
we dont have load shedding



Peak demand in Ghana as at last year was 3600MW ( almost 2 times of Kenya peak demand).

Just30:
Just facts liar in Cheif

Get used to speaking facts

Fact definitely has a different meaning to you so no surprises. Fyi,i left Ghana on the 7th or 8th of last month or so and the power outage that plague the whole country that day alone lasted more than 3hrs. I couldn't watch man city and man United game from the comfort of my home because of black out.so pls keep your lies in check before you start spewing them.

rvp2018:
Ghana - when will you get to live maintenance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVDjMbPo5pA

or have stand by choppers for fixing power. My cousin work on the chopper team -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvunEoHX5Ks

This fool thinks Changing lines on pylons carrying 500kva lines can be done without shutting down power.

When we are talking about pylons, you are here comparing low 20kv lines in kenya

rvp2018:
Without a source; you're just wasting your time; your credibility is almost zero.

You have LOAD SHEDDING; you gov is just afraid to say so because they attacked Mahama for dumsor.

Load shedding is when power is not enough on the grid - for any reason - if power plant goes down - and you have to ration power. Emergency problems should not last more than few hours...and not everday.

Load shedding is POWER RATIONING - deliberate cutting of supply

Man you are well informed on the matters on ground here.

popizaino:
Fact definitely has a different meaning to you so no surprises. Fyi,i left Ghana on the 7th or 8th of last month or so and the power outage that plague the whole country that day alone lasted more than 3hrs. I couldn't watch man city and man United game from the comfort of my home because of black out.so pls keep your lies in check before you start spewing them.

This kid doesn't even know when he left Ghana

I guess united matches are played at midnight when there was a nationwide blackout.

liar in chief

Watch that video dumsor - Suswa line there is 400KVA. Kenya Power Air Mobile team deal with high voltage lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvunEoHX5Ks

The substation sits on a 300-acre piece of land and serves as a connection point for six (6) double circuit transmission lines. The Lines are:

220kV Olkaria II – Suswa line
220kV Olkaria 1AU – Suswa line
220kV Olkaria IV – Suswa line
220kV Suswa – Nairobi North line
400kV Suswa – Isinya line (currently operated at 220kV)
400kv Loiyangalani – Suswa line (currently operated at 220kV)
The substation operates at three different voltage levels: 500kV HVDC, 400kV and 220kV. The lines are for grid stabilization, transmission line extension and regional power interconnection.

Just30:
This fool thinks Changing lines on pylons carrying 500kva lines can be done without shutting down power.

When we are talking about pylons, you are here comparing low 20kv lines in kenya

Power of internet. That is why the JustMoron is so retarded to imagine he can fool anybody in 21st century

popizaino:


Man you are well informed on the matters on ground here.

rvp2018:
Watch that video dumsor - Suswa line there is 400KVA. Kenya Power Air Mobile team deal with high voltage lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvunEoHX5Ks

The substation sits on a 300-acre piece of land and serves as a connection point for six (6) double circuit transmission lines. The Lines are:

220kV Olkaria II – Suswa line
220kV Olkaria 1AU – Suswa line
220kV Olkaria IV – Suswa line
220kV Suswa – Nairobi North line
400kV Suswa – Isinya line (currently operated at 220kV)
400kv Loiyangalani – Suswa line (currently operated at 220kV)
The substation operates at three different voltage levels: 500kV HVDC, 400kV and 220kV. The lines are for grid stabilization, transmission line extension and regional power interconnection.

They are just rewrapping lines

Changing a line cannot be done with power on, else you will kill people

Just30:
This kid doesn't even know when he left Ghana

I guess united matches are played at midnight when there was a nationwide blackout.

liar in chief

Forget the day I left Ghana,i am back already.what matter here is your cheap lie in this era of internet.The report below doesn't correspond with your 30mins power outage since begining of 2021 has you falsely claimed earlier.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/newsaf.cgtn.com/news/2021-03-08/Ghana-suffers-nationwide-power-outage-YrMg64PIZy/share_amp.html

rvp2018:
Power of internet. That is why the JustMoron is so retarded to imagine he can fool anybody in 21st century

You are just a fool who knows nothing

Accra will have intermittent 30-minute power outages twice a week from April until May when the Pokuasi Bulk supply station will be fully connected to the national grid and other bulk supply station.

It called maintainance - and it why power in Kenya is so reliable. Ghana dumsor - you have it every other day now - until september. Your thermal power plants cannot cope. Your rickety transmission is collapsing on you.

Heck I doubt you even have 400KV power transmission line....seem max is 160

Just30:
They are just rewrapping lines

Changing a line cannot be done with power on, else you will kill people

popizaino:
Forget the day I left Ghana,i am back already.what matter here is your cheap lie in this era of internet.The report below doesn't correspond with your 30mins power outage since begining of 2021 has you falsely claimed earlier.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/newsaf.cgtn.com/news/2021-03-08/Ghana-suffers-nationwide-power-outage-YrMg64PIZy/share_amp.html

neither does it correspond to your united match timeline

chief liar

@RVP:
Can Kenya ever get to this level?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOP5fm2EgcA

More like 30 minute power supply and 23 hours of darkness.
In this century - in big city like Accra - you do NOT HAVE REDUDANCY LINES

n East Africa, the Kenyan power utility, Kenya Power, has stated that over the next five years the company will spend Sh22 billion ($217 million) to upgrade the electricity grid and introduce redundant network to curb power cuts, reports local media the Daily Nation.

“One of the things we want to achieve is create a redundant network that allows the company to switch customers to alternative supply lines during planned and unplanned outages.”

The redundant network can be explained as the alternative line of supply such that if one line goes off, power is automatically supplied by the other line hence the customer stays continuously connected. The system is reported to be used in advanced economies.

According to the Daily Nation, in the current financial year, the power utility is to spend Sh5.5 billion ($5.4 million) in network refurbishment and creation of redundant network especially in the industrial zones.

Kenya Power did it in 2016
https://www.esi-africa.com/regional-news/east-africa/kenya-power-introduce-redundant-network/

Just30:
You are just a fool who knows nothing

Accra will have intermittent 30-minute power outages twice a week from April until May when the Pokuasi Bulk supply station will be fully connected to the national grid and other bulk supply station.

rvp2018:
It called maintainance - and it why power in Kenya is so reliable. Ghana dumsor - you have it every other day now - until september. Your thermal power plants cannot cope. Your rickety transmission is collapsing on you.

Heck I doubt you even have 400KV power transmission line....seem max is 160

reliable and yet entire Kenya is shedding load every day?

Keep deceiving yourself

We have only had 6 power outages in Ghana since the beginning of this year.

One was a nationwide outage because of onshore gas pipeline valve not responding.

My thermal power plants are functioning to full capacity

My 500kva transmission line is undergoing replacement which require power shut down to some places in Accra



This is not Kenya where you dont have enough generation capacity hence the constant collapse in your national grid every years.
Kenya grid cannot transmit demand above 2000mw

Just30:
neither does it correspond to your united match timeline

chief liar

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I will now allow you to obfuscate facts with your feelings. This is the report on man city vs man United match on the 8th of March same as the day there was power outage in the country. Only a fool like you will try to shift goal post to timeline when evidence has been laid bare before you.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12239124/man-city-0-2-man-utd-pep-guardiolas-side-finally-beaten-by-bruno-fernandes-and-luke-shaw-goals-in-manchester-derby

Unless you have another kenya in your head - kenya we now of - Not many people in kenya know of word load shedding! or power rationing except those of us old enough to remember 1999-2001. That was first and last time we had LOAD SHEDDING.

Why ON EARTH would kenya ever go for load shedding.

First we have many emergency power plants - these are thermal plants - they are only switched on during emergency - there are not main source of power like Ghana

Kenya have stand by generators by Aggrekos and such - idling waiting for main power station to go off

We do not use thermal plants as our source of power (ONLY MORONIC GHANA does that) - they are stand by generators.

Just30:
reliable and yet entire Kenya is shedding load every day?

Keep deceiving yourself

We have only had 6 power outages in Ghana since the beginning of this year.

One was a nationwide outage because of onshore gas pipeline valve not responding.

My thermal power plants are functioning to full capacity

My 500kva transmission line is undergoing replacement which require power shut down to some places in Accra



This is not Kenya where you dont have enough generation capacity hence the constant collapse in your national grid every years.
Kenya grid cannot transmit demand above 2000mw

rvp2018:
More like 30 minute power supply and 23 hours of darkness.
In this century - in big city like Accra - you do NOT HAVE REDUDANCY LINES

n East Africa, the Kenyan power utility, Kenya Power, has stated that over the next five years the company will spend Sh22 billion ($217 million) to upgrade the electricity grid and introduce redundant network to curb power cuts, reports local media the Daily Nation.

“One of the things we want to achieve is create a redundant network that allows the company to switch customers to alternative supply lines during planned and unplanned outages.”

The redundant network can be explained as the alternative line of supply such that if one line goes off, power is automatically supplied by the other line hence the customer stays continuously connected. The system is reported to be used in advanced economies.

According to the Daily Nation, in the current financial year, the power utility is to spend Sh5.5 billion ($5.4 million) in network refurbishment and creation of redundant network especially in the industrial zones.

Kenya Power did it in 2016
https://www.esi-africa.com/regional-news/east-africa/kenya-power-introduce-redundant-network/

Redundancy lines will still run through Bulk supply stations

We are working on a 580MVA bulk supply station which is in it interconnection phase which require power shutdown for that work to be carried out.