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| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by TemmyT002(m): 6:08am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Violence on who? Useless stooges. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by AtikuNetwork: 6:51am On Apr 10, 2021 |
@babaolofin: Based on your response, I am convinced that you are either a bastard or have no single yoruba blood flowing in your veins going by this stupid excuse of a rebuttal you just gave. You obviously have that cowardly Afonja gene in you hence your reasoning. I can see that you casually/deliberately failed to address my Afonja reference because you must be a bastard. Instead you are talking about igbo investments in Lagos. Dangote alone has more investments in Lagos than all igbos combined so what's the big deal in that? Should that be enough reason to even contemplate inviting non-Yorubas to do your dirty job of killing your erring leaders for you? What manner of inexcusable reasoning is this? No reasonable igbo would even take you seriously, going by the aftermath and consequences of Nzeogwu's misadventure. If Awolowo had reasoned the way you are, he and other yoruba leaders of that era, including Victor Banjo, would have supported the easy passage of Biafra troops in Ore as a prelude to conquering the entire Western region during the early days of the civil war. Unfortunately, with reasoning like yours, especially if more yoruba people reason like you, I am willing to bet that yorubaland will eventually become a conquered territory by foreigners in their midst, within the next few decades. In case you read a different history, I will give you the real version of how Ilorin became the only caliphate on Yoruba soil (a situation that remains a source of shame to many Yoruba people today and that won't be reversed anytime soon), and why yoruba people will equally lose the crown jewel real estate of their region, Lagos, should they subscribe to your abominable reasoning pattern. In a nutshell, Afonja, a garrison commander cum generalissimo in the border yoruba territory of Ilorin, used Hausa-Fulani mercenaries (who were also residents of Ilorin at that time) to prosecute his civil war campaign of independence of that territory from the Alaafin's sphere of influence. He succeeded with the help of the mercenaries. Shortly afterwards, the mercenaries became uncontrollable in the territory because they knew their central role in Afonja's ascendancy, and felt they could get away with anything. Afonja's later attempt to bring them under control was what led to his assassination. That's the real story. Hausa-Fulani and Igbos are not the problem of yoruba people. Yorubas are the problem of Yorubas because they are intrinsically betrayers. That is why they are destined to become a conquered people. If you think we Northerners would sit back and watch yorubas and their Igbo mercenaries run us out of Lagos without a fight, after all our investments there, then you have another thing coming. Kai wawa ne. We will all share your conquered territory equally, since you people refuse to have sense. If Nigeria must split, no wahala. But you see that Lagos, walahi all of us will take our share. I swear it. Either that or we burn it to ashes. ![]() |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 7:53am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Christistruth00:my friend I said the 10th battalion that was set up to counter biafrans at ore, the video is on YouTube search for it and watch it , all northern soldiers and middle belt not yoruba, iluyomade or whatever you call him never fought the biafrans, he was asked only to destroy the bridge to stop the biafrans advancing towards Lagos and that was the only thing he did before the 10th battalion took over , the 10th battalion took a whole day to reconstruct that bridge before they themselves passed with their vehicles to push back biafran on the Midwest side |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by porthouse7(f): 8:13am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:KANU and ojukwu are cowards they ran away dressed as woman, how terrible can dat be |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 8:14am On Apr 10, 2021 |
afroniger:Ignore this idiot....Who sabi am in Yorubaland? |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 8:18am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:Even the Biafran soldiers at Ore were commanded by Victor Banjo, a Yoruba man....Go and read your history books and stop 'forming' professor of history on Nairaland. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 8:23am On Apr 10, 2021 |
porthouse7:well good for them, king David of the Bible pretended to be a mad man to save his life I repeat biafrans igbos were still on ground fighting after ojukwu left, ipob ESN igbos are fighting in the absence of KANU , igbos brave yorubas cowards |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 8:31am On Apr 10, 2021 |
AtikuNetwork:I want to believe this is just a stupid admonition from one idiot to another...Because I don't understand the stupid tantrums you're throwing here. If there is a war of secession in Nigeria today, you won't even have the temerity to carry out 1/100 of your threats. Many of you guys have the confidence to say this because of the holier-than-thou liberal Yorubas and the politicians among us... Because I don't know how an ill-educated Hausa/Fulani could be boasting about destroying Lagos...Hausas don't have the intellect to prosecute modern war. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 8:32am On Apr 10, 2021 |
sangresan:and that was the very reason that mission failed, because banjo the traitor was given a mission to reach Lagos in 24 hours, everything was well planned, road from Midwest to Lagos was free, banjo purposely delayed in Midwest for 1 whole week given the Nigerian government time to train new recruits and sent them to block ore , he was secretly meeting and negotiating with the enemy on how to deliver ojukwu to them , he paid with his life |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by porthouse7(f): 8:35am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:if a commander can run from a war zone, why won't d foot soldiers surrender to obasanjo an afonja warrior and later president of d federal republic... ojukwu a run away solider, KANU a fraud and a coward |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 8:44am On Apr 10, 2021 |
porthouse7:a commander is needed at war front not a leader, ojukwu and KANU are leaders not troops commanders know the difference don't forget Phillip Efiong a none Igbo Vic president and acting president of biafra surrendered to Obasanjo the afonja who was brought in at the end of the war once again igbos brave Yoruba cowards |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Christistruth00: 8:45am On Apr 10, 2021*. Modified: 9:10am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:Capt Iluyomade and his Soldiers had already repelled the main Biafran Army. The 10th Battalion only dealt with the skirmishes with the stragglers. in the YouTube Video the main body of the Biafran Army had already been repelled by the time the battalion got there the 10th batallion were there as reinforcements as was mentioned at 34 seconds of the Video. It took the 10th Brigade 6 days to Cross the Bridge as you can hear in the Video. By then the main body of the Biafran Army had already reached Benin. The only Biafrans they dealt with were the Stragglers who tried to ambush them , the main body of the Biafran Army was already on its way back to the Midwest.after the Battle with Capt Iluyomades men. There was only one major battle at Ore and it was with Captain Iluyomades mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qauxgIpsZXQ |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 8:45am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:I thought you were boasting about Biafran soldiers before...For your info, Banjo also led the force that invaded the Mid-West. For your info, it was Ojukwu who betrayed Banjo, and not the other way round. Ojukwu also betrayed many others. He betrayed Hilary Njoku and Alexander Madiebo. Read Njoku's "Tragedy Without Heroes." You'll understand better. Ojukwu never listened to good advice... |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 8:53am On Apr 10, 2021 |
sangresan:the Midwest invasion was very easy, 70% of the Midwest soldiers were Midwest igbos who already met with ojukwu and pledged their allegiance to biafra they worked hand in hand with biafrans and there was no battle in Midwest with biafrans banjo met with the enemies after wasting a whole week in Midwest planing on how to take down ojukwu, |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 8:56am On Apr 10, 2021 |
The invasion of the Mid-West threw up a lot of issues pertaining to Ojukwu's intentions. Ojukwu appointed a core Igbo man as the acting administrator for the Mid-West, contrary to earlier plans to appoint a native Edo, or Urhobo, or a Delta Igbo. David Ejoor escaped and later joined the Federal troops. The natives also began to see the Biafran army as an invading force rather than a liberating one...That's what derailed the cause. Ojukwu was simply incompetent. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 9:01am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Will you also tell us why the Ijaws refused to join forces with Biafra? Do you remember Adaka Boro? Igbo neighbours refused to support Biafra. And Ojukwu himself didn't have good leadership skills. He alienated a lot of people that could have helped. I have mentioned Hilary Njoku and Madiebo...Go and read their written accounts of the civil war. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 9:06am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Christistruth00:what do you mean by strangglers? when biafrans invaded Midwest there were no soldiers blocking ore road lluyomade was asked to destroy the bridge to stop biafrans from advancing that was all he did, the 10th battalion were hurriedly trained and recruited within a week to go push back the biafrans , they had to reconstruct the bridge that was destroyed to stop biafrans from crossing |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by AtikuNetwork: 9:06am On Apr 10, 2021 |
sangresan:I am a man of peace but it seems many of you southerners mistake such disposition for weakness. Northerners are not afraid of Nigeria's break-up. Murtala Muhammed wanted to secede after the 1966 coup that saw many of our finest leaders killed senselessly, it was the intervention of Gowon that halted that project. It was your southern leaders that forced 'One Nigeria' on the North from the very beginning after the Sarduana expressed the ill-preparedness of the North towards the independence being pushed by your Southern leaders. Azikwe and Awolowo also refused to include the secession clause in the Nigerian constitution at some point. But today you guys blame all of Nigeria's problems on Northerners as if your leaders are not equal stakeholders in Nigeria. How many of your representatives at the federal level are pro-secession? Why not threaten them with a recall to force them to push your secessionist agenda at the National Assembly if truly your agendas are genuine? Instead you blame the North for all your problems. You're all crazy. If you southerners truly desire to secede, you know what to do and how to go about it, so stop the scapegoating of the North like cowards. As for that fool babaolofin or whatever he calls himself. He's just a typical yoruba coward, waiting on others to fight his battles. Out of all the Yorubas in the South-West, the idiot could only think of calling on igbo mercenaries tocome and help him kill yoruba leaders in Lagos. What a stupid coward. Nigeria can split in peace if truly that is what the majority of its constituent parts want. No shaking. And by that I don't mean social media noises from miscreants and riff-raff wannabe secessionists. The North would fine on its own, as would any other part of Nigeria. But if his premise for inviting mercenaries is to dislodge Northerners from Lagos because igbos have investments in Lagos, then I put it to you that we Northerners would put up a fight that will shock your region to its foundations because we are also investors and stakeholders in the same Lagos. For the of sake peace, just share the state to all of us based on our investment stake. And if war is what you want, bring it on. We have no single bone of cowardice in us. ![]() |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Christistruth00: 9:15am On Apr 10, 2021 |
sangresan:Do you know Ojukwu wanted to try and execute Hilary Njoku with Banjo it was pressure from his kinsmen that made him jail Njoku instead and what were Banjo and Njoku’s offence They told Ojukwu there was no way he could win the War and he should diplomatically negotiate a face saving settlement of the Conflict. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by hotwax: 9:16am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Right to self determination is not violence except Tinubu and APC are planning to unleash guns on people exactly like endsars. If they do it, it will only speed up the breakup. Nigerian security forces are occupied right now, people will be willing to take up arms once and for all. The government and Tinubu can use their hands break the country up. Give people chance to voice out peacefully. Violence will not solve anything |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Christistruth00: 9:21am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:The main Biafran Army had reached Benin before the 10th battalion crossed over the Bridge after 6 days you heard in the video It was Col Iluyomades men that repelled the Biafran Army at the Bridge even Gen Alabi Isama confirmed it was Col Iluyomades men who repelled the Biafran Army in the Battle of Ore The 10 th battalion only reinforced Col Iluyomades men after the main battle of Ore |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 9:22am On Apr 10, 2021 |
AtikuNetwork:I am just laughing at your ignorance. I use the word "ignorance" because you threw up a lot of issues that you don't understand. Awolowo never opposed the secession clause. It was Zik who shot down the idea and we all regret it today. But I want to believe that he had good intention. That's not an excuse for the misrule of Shagari, Buhari, Abacha, etc. The British prevented Murtala and other Northern officers from seceding. You should thank the British for that. Because you guys would have suffered in the so-called North. Just look at Niger Republic and see what your country will look like. You're no better than the social media noise makers you have accused of making empty threats. If there is a war of secession in Nigeria today, you won't even have time to boast, not to talk of making a claim to Lagos. We will first create a buffer using the Middle Belt. We're talking about modern conventional warfare, and not those almajiri-inspired violence in the North. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 9:28am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Christistruth00:you are not making sense here, lluyomade men repelled the main biafrans soldiers in their thousands and the the 10th battalion was defeated on their first encounter with the little biafrans left? col lluyomade destroyed the bridge to stop biafrans from crossing over delaying them for the 10th battalion that was set up within a week, that was all he did, |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Christistruth00: 9:42am On Apr 10, 2021*. Modified: 10:12am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:The 10th Battalion was still in Lagos training when Col Iluyomades men fought the Battle of Ore when the Biafran Army had turned up in the Western Region unannounced it was a Suprise attack. The 10th Battalion only sent to reinforce Col Iluyomade after the main Battle of Ore had already been fought and repelled that was why they could wait for 6 days for Army engineers from Lagos before deciding to Cross the bridge because the main body of the Biafran Army had already been repelled by Col IlIluyomade’s men |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by AtikuNetwork: 9:45am On Apr 10, 2021 |
sangresan:Another typical rant of a coward. I am still very pro-Nigeria with no iota of hate towards any tirbe in Nigeria, so for that reason I would refrain from saying some things about your people that you may find very offensive. Besides, Alhaji Atiku is as detribalized as they come as an individual, not just as a Northerner, and he has shown this all his life. In him resides Nigeria's last hope of dousing all these needless ethnic tensions, when he becomes president, insha Allah. We will campaign all over Nigeria when the time comes, so therefore I still see all tribes as Nigerians, at least for now. But I will still say this. Mallam no be mumu. So don't you guys ever think for a minute that you can blackmail the North with your secessionist antics. The North will be very ok if Nigeria breaks today, contrary to the usual propaganda from you southerners. And speaking of warfare. How many southerners are currently in the Nigerian army? Who are the custodians of Nigeria's arsenal of weapons today? Listen, nobody wants war (at least I don't), but if war happens today in this country, yorubaland would definitely be a central theatre of war in the south because you have a lot of foreigners in your midst, many of whom are hostile and don't really wish you well. And your region will burn. I say that will all sense of modesty. What happened during endsars would be child's play. You guys watched fifth columnists almost burn your most developed state to the ground and you did nothing, many of you even participated in the carnage. Compare that to Wike's handling of the ipobs and other miscreants during the same endsars. That is just a preview of what war will bring to your door step. Again, I don't wish for war. But as a Muslim, if Allah says war is inevitable to break Nigeria, so be it. I repeat, the North will be fine if Nigeria breaks up today. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 10:04am On Apr 10, 2021 |
AtikuNetwork:Says a poorly-educated fella who doesn't understand what's meant by "modern warfare"..... I will ignore your stupid tantrums. But I implore you to read about the ongoing Syrian Civil War. All those advantages you listed won't count for much if you don't have intelligent men to draw out war plans for you. I will give you a few more examples. The Israelis were surrounded by the Arabs in 1948, but it didn't stop their victory in the war of independence. The Arabs simply don't have the intelligence to fight a modern war. Most core northerners have foofoo brain and reason like "goats", which will be your undoing... Saudi Arabia has the best America military weapons but they can't even sit down to draw tactics that will defeat the barefooted Houthis of Yemen. Your leader, Murtala Mohammed, could not even cross the bridge at Onitsha during the civil war, even with thousands of soldiers and the best weapons. He left the battle field a dejected and defeated man after wasting thousands of Hausa soldiers on an ill-advised expedition... That you're even supporting the graft king called Atiku shows you're myopic and can't see beyond your nose. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 10:06am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Christistruth00:my friend you have no idea on this topic you are arguing about, biafrans didn't turn up unannounced in Western Region, lluyomade knew they were coming he was alerted to go there and destroy the bridge to prevent the biafrans from crossing the very day biafrans made it to Midwest, the road from Midwest to Lagos was free biafrans were to reach Lagos in 24 hours that very night the crossed over to Midwest, it was banjo that abandoned the 24 hour plan given lluyomade time to destroy the bridge biafrans waited one whole week in Midwest before advancing to ore that was the case |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by AtikuNetwork: 10:07am On Apr 10, 2021 |
sangresan:You will live to witness an Atiku Presidency. Mark my words bro. |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by sangresan(m): 10:11am On Apr 10, 2021 |
AtikuNetwork:Atiku, the con man, said more than this in 2003... |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Nobody: 10:46am On Apr 10, 2021*. Modified: 11:56am On Apr 10, 2021 |
AtikuNetwork:I only read the first paragraph of your senseless jargon and foolish illusion and stopped. You are a very useless person. Highly unexposed and very uncivilized. Firstly, the Dangote investment you mentioned is an investment made from the commonwealth of resources of Nigeria. I grew up to query the establishment of Dantata Jetty at Tin Can Island port beside Nigerdock gate at Coconut, Lagos. Only fence demarcated the Jetty from the Tin Can Port. It was built with Nigeria money. I don't need to tell you about various deals that took place during the military era at the Lagos ports, various duty waivers. Isiaku Rabiu & Sons (IRS) also benefited immensely from those deals, now, his son is AbduSamad Rabiu, the owner of BUA group. The Indimis and Mai Deribes are sleeping on oil wealth while Dan Etete from Bayelsa is on exile. You want me to tell you Afonja never invited the Fulanis (Alimi people ) to fight Oyo Army according to 2012 to 2015 history put forward by the IBOS out of frustration. Afonja never needed the Fulanis to fight his boys (Oyo Army ) from Oyo even if Alaafin had sent them. Afonja and the people at Ilorin and Alimi people only resisted the tax collectors who are also low rank soldiers sent by Alaafin to collect royalties. Alaafin felt betrayed because Afonja was his most trusted person and his General. The commanders at various war outposts were under Afonja who was based at Ilorin war outpost. No commander was chosen by Alaafin to replace Afonja as the General and no commander will even have the audacity to lead a war against his former BOSS Afonja. There was never a war between the Oyo warriors and Afonja supported by the Fulanis. Those people are tax collectors chased away . Afonja was assassinated and not defeated. Afonja was never a Garrison commander. He was the Commander In Chief of the Soldiers but because he was so much powerful, Alaafin never wanted him around at Oyo ILE. He was based at Ilorin. After, the feud between him and Alaafin, No garrison or garrisons commander or commanders ever led troop to challenge their Commander In Chief - The Afonja out of fear. Alimi came as a pauper, poverty stricken looking for survival for his people and their Cattles. Out of sympathy, Afonja accommodated them and made provision for them. If Alimi had come as a Jihadist, Afonja would have wasted him like cow. 90% of the 4 and 5 star hotels in Abuja belong to the IBOS. Yorubas also have investment in Abuja, yet this is not up to domination of our resources . It is a welcome idea that the Hausas are ready to fight for their investment in Lagos. They will surely die for it. Where are the investment ? You You are a clown. You think If Yorubas go to war today, you can withstand us? You think you can jump or fly from Kaduna to Lagos ? You are a fool. The US, the British, Russia and even the EU know the situation in Nigeria and are monitoring it. It is the internal crisis, political and religious dichotomy in Yoruba land supported by politicians since Awolowo / Akintola era that is giving a cow the audacity to challenge me on a matter of independence for the Yorubas. Lagos to Accra is shorter than Lagos to Abuja. Lagos to Abidjan (Ivory Coast) is shorter than Lagos to Kano. You closed Border and forget the Frontline States of Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana and Ivory Coast are on standby. Lagos has three known International borders - Land, Air and Sea. On both angles and from both sides you are no match. You shall be wasted with your cows. I only blame the Yoruba politicians and Monarchs. You are a fool. You raised the issue of Awolowo a man that was just released from prison and made to support a young Gowon. Moreover, majority of the people had no education or foresight. Most people never understood what was happening. Awolowo foot soldiers are still around and I am one of them. From time immemorial, they have their agenda built upon restructuring which the North is against. Your General said OPC and IPOBS are terrorist groups. https://www.nairaland.com/6499438/dambazau-opc-ipob-just-like/5 |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by porthouse7(f): 11:18am On Apr 10, 2021 |
Deepfeel:COWARD | Definition of COWARD by Oxford Dictionary on Lexico ... www.lexico.com › definition › coward noun. A person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. 'they had run away—the cowards ... ...hope will understand now |
| Re: Secession Agitators Plotting Violence In South West – YAF by Deepfeel(m): 11:40am On Apr 10, 2021 |
porthouse7:I repeat whatever names you call ojukwu or Nnamdi KANU ends with them, biafran soldiers igbos were still on ground fighting after ojukwu left, ipobs ESN are fighting in the absence of Nnamdi KANU igbos brave, Yorubas cowards |
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I repeat, the North will be fine if Nigeria breaks up today.