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1) Electricity access - is broad term - some countries like India - anybody living 50 meters from electricity infrastructure is deemed to have access.
2) Before we proceed with random figures from your anu.s- first tell us how many HOUSES or household are there in Ghana. The answer is 7M.
3) How many customers does your electricity distros have in their database - metered customers.
4) Again moro.n TROPICAL HIGHLANDS - the highlands ensure low temperatures - the tropics ensure no major season changes(now winters or summers). 2/3 of kenyans live in tropical highlands. You DO NOT need an AC. You should see many in Nairobi if they were needed.

Just30:



So now you are fighting facts?

1. True electricity access is around 90% to 92% and metered customers is 4 million houses.

2. Let me know when kenya even invested 13 billion dollars in it power sector in just 3 years. How did kenya spend twice?

3. Ghana total investment in the energy sector is more than 50 billion dollars over the last 10 years.

4. Once you live in the Tropical climate zone, you need AC more than anyone in the world.

5. You said those countries don't use AC.

And temperatures in Kenya range from 20 degrees to 30 degrees

No. Your low agricultural productivity make sure of that; otherwise you have more than enough arable land; to feed the world. Heck before oil messed Nigeria - you were world biggest export of palm oil. The same palm oil earns likes of Malaysia more than your oil.

Heck river Niger alone can irrigate and feed Africa.

Shaytun:
Nigeria will always import food, our population made sure of that

rvp2018:
1) Electricity access - is broad term - some countries like India - anybody living 50 meters from electricity infrastructure is deemed to have access.
2) Before we proceed with random figures from your anu.s- first tell us how many HOUSES or household are there in Ghana. The answer is 7M.
3) How many customers does your electricity distros have in their database - metered customers.
4) Again moro.n TROPICAL HIGHLANDS - the highlands ensure low temperatures - the tropics ensure no major season changes(now winters or summers). 2/3 of kenyans live in tropical highlands. You DO NOT need an AC. You should see many in Nairobi if they were needed.

1. You are mad

Electricity access is not a broad term.
It simply means electricity coverage across human settlements.

2. I don't have a number for houses in Ghana because every day, new houses are built.
You can use satellite data to count the number if you want. Household does not mean houses, mad man.

3.my electricity distributors have 4.5 million customers with over 6 million meters supplied

4. You are just a fool even if the tallest mountain was located in the tropics, temperatures at it peak will still range from 20 to 39 degrees just for the fact that it is located in the tropics. And this is why even though the geography of Kenya is a tropical highlands the climate of Kenya is the tropical climatic zone.

FOOL

tropical highlands is not a climatic zone but a geographical zone.

1) Electricity access to households is the best definition to electricity access.
2) I don't care about any random houses - I care about house housing households.
3) Show me evidence that your electricity distro have 4.5M customers with 6M metered customers.
4) Again slowpoke - you just need to visit Nairobi or Adis - or ask anybody who has - to tell you how temperatures are
5) For every 1000 meter above the sea level - you lose 6 degrees in temperature - therefore Nairobi is 11 degrees lower than Accra - Adis Ababa is 13 or so.

Just30:
1. You are mad

Electricity access is not a broad term.
It simply means electricity coverage across human settlements.

2. I don't have a number for houses in Ghana because every day, new houses are built.
You can use satellite data to count the number if you want. Household does not mean houses, mad man.

3.my electricity distributors have 4.5 million customers with over 6 million meters supplied

4. You are just a fool even if the tallest mountain was located in the tropics, temperatures at it peak will still range from 20 to 39 degrees just for the fact that it is located in the tropics. And this is why even though the geography of Kenya is a tropical highlands the climate of Kenya is the tropical climatic zone.

FOOL

tropical highlands is not a climatic zone but a geographical zone.

Rvp2018

Let me educate you today.


There are 5 main climate types on earth

Tropical, Dry, Temperate, Continental and Polar.

Out of those 5 types of climate, there are 12 climatic zones.

Learn what they are

Educate me? That is so rich of you. They are many climates and micro-climates. Ghana and west Africa are well known - hot - that due to them being in tropics and being low lying. Abuja is like 300m above sea level. Nairobi is like 2000.

The higher you go the lower the temperatures. This is primary level education.

Take small visit - kenya, Rwanda, Ethiopia - and parts of Uganda/Tanzania - have tropical highland climate.

Just30:
Rvp2018

Let me educate you today.


There are 5 main climate types on earth

Tropical, Dry, Temperate, Continental and Polar.

Out of those 5 types of climate, there are 12 climatic zones.

Learn what they are

Shaytun:
Same pictures repeated a hundred times since the beginning of this thread.

You have chosen not to post Nigerian cities and Accra out of shame. Everyone knows this.

Just30:
And this right here is Facts

I wonder how 53 million people will share 1800mw of electricity

No sources no credibility Dumsor. Yours is pure noise.

rvp2018:
1) Electricity access to households is the best definition to electricity access.
2) I don't care about any random houses - I care about house housing households.
3) Show me evidence that your electricity distro have 4.5M customers with 6M metered customers.
4) Again slowpoke - you just need to visit Nairobi or Adis - or ask anybody who has - to tell you how temperatures are
5) For every 1000 meter above the sea level - you lose 6 degrees in temperature - therefore Nairobi is 11 degrees lower than Accra - Adis Ababa is 13 or so.

1. Yes it is and that is why most countries will never have 100% access to electricity, especially when their population is growing and new houses are being built daily.

2. Houses and household are two different things.
Until you know the difference, you will keep being a fool.
I've explained what they are to you, you can decide to reject knowledge.


3. You already have the evidence on your phone or whatever you use to type nonsense here, use it.
Or you can refer back to when I posted it here, when you were making this same useless arguments.

4. You don't live in a temperate region, so stop being a fool. You receive a 20 degree temperate and start walking around in blankets across Nairobi like it's cold.
I don't need to visit Nairobi before I can know what 20 degrees or 10 degrees temperatures feel like especially after all my day in Europe and the Americas.

5. Fool and that is why Nairobi temperatures does not max at 39 degrees and above but rather 29 and 30 degrees

rvp2018:
Educate me? That is so rich of you. They are many climates and micro-climates. Ghana and west Africa are well known - hot - that due to them being in tropics and being low lying. Abuja is like 300m above sea level. Nairobi is like 2000.

The higher you go the lower the temperatures. This is primary level education.

Take small visit - kenya, Rwanda, Ethiopia - and parts of Uganda/Tanzania - have tropical highland climate.

once you country is in the tropics, temperatures will range from 20 to 40 degrees.

Base on altitude and trade winds, there can be variations in the maximum temperatures.

gallivant:
No sources no credibility Dumsor. Yours is pure noise.

You were given sources few days ago


I know you are used to repetition but I believe you can turn back few pages and see.


Illiterate

Verbiage. The usual nonsense bereft of any factoids from the resident nutjob.

Let try some facts
ECG - ? number of customers
NEDCo - ? number of customers
Enclave Power Company Limited - ? Number of customers.

We will assume that Ghana has pop of 32M with on average 4.5 HH per house - so total household 7.1M - therefore for Ghana to claim to be at 90% - they need to have 6.3M household connected to power.

Anyway we will include customers that are not household or residential - commercial - to help you case.

Now give us latest customer figures of ECG, NEDco and Enclave.

Just30:
1. Yes it is and that is why most countries will never have 100% access to electricity, especially when their population is growing and new houses are being built daily.

2. Houses and household are two different things.
Until you know the difference, you will keep being a fool.
I've explained what they are to you, you can decide to reject knowledge.


3. You already have the evidence on your phone or whatever you use to type nonsense here, use it.
Or you can refer back to when I posted it here, when you were making this same useless arguments.

4. You don't live in a temperate region, so stop being a fool. You receive a 20 degree temperate and start walking around in blankets across Nairobi like it's cold.
I don't need to visit Nairobi before I can know what 20 degrees or 10 degrees temperatures feel like especially after all my day in Europe and the Americas.

5. Fool and that is why Nairobi temperatures does not max at 39 degrees and above but rather 29 and 30 degrees

Yet Mt Kilimanjaro and Mt Kenya are permanently under snow
Average temperature in tropics at sea level is 30.
The higher you go - the lower the temperature - every 1000m -you reduce 6 degrees.
Mt kilimanjaro at 5000 - therefore is below zero!

Just30:
once you country is in the tropics, temperatures will range from 20 to 40 degrees.

Base on altitude and trade winds, there can be variations in the maximum temperatures.

rvp2018:
Yet Mt Kilimanjaro and Mt Kenya are permanently under snow

and yet temperatures at it peak during snow time is always in the 20s

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rvp2018:
Verbiage. The usual nonsense bereft of any factoids from the resident nutjob.

Let try some facts
ECG - ? number of customers
NEDCo - ? number of customers
Enclave Power Company Limited - ? Number of customers.

We will assume that Ghana has pop of 32M with on average 4.5 HH per house - so total household 7.1M - therefore for Ghana to claim to be at 90% - they need to have 6.3M household connected to power.

Anyway we will include customers that are not household or residential - commercial - to help you case.

Now give us latest customer figures of ECG, NEDco and Enclave.

nedco has over 700,000 customers and 800,000 meters distributed.

Ecg has over 4 million customers now with over 4.6 million meters distributed

Vra has over 300,000 customers with over 500,000 meters distributed in it catchment area..


Okay let's assume Ghana has 8 million households

And there are 2 households in one house, how many houses will you have ?

Ghana is not kenya where 70% of you guys live in villages without electricity poles let alone having meters connecting them to the grid.

In Ghana, every village has electricity with everyone connected

You're national embarrassment to Ghana. Do you even listen to yourself. Snow melt at 1 degrees - so how can temperature be 20s. Do you just like arguing for it's sake mo.oron?

Just30:
and yet temperatures at it peak during snow time is always in the 20s

rvp2018:
Just shu.t up hobbit. Kenya is miles ahead of Ghana the mini zoo in Quality and Reliability of electricity. Europe of course need ACs because they live in temperate environment - with temperatures swinging;

Why would you need AC in tropical highland like kenya

I like how you ALWAYS find overlooked yet meaningful stats! Who would've thought there was such a metric as this? As expected-our quality is wayyyy ahead.

Okay any links to the data?
Mo.oron understand this - when Ghana do census - they count go to every house - and count the occupant - that become an household.
In Survey or Census - it the first question.
They go to every house with people - ask who Household Head is - and then members of that household present.
Then they do national total.
Some household have 20 members - some have single person.
On average in Ghana it come down to 4.5 person per house.
That become average Household Size of Ghana.
And we know the number of houses with humans in Ghana to be 7M.

Now 4.5+0.8+0.3 is a little over 5.7M out 7M

So if we take your data at it highest (despite the obvious lack of credibility) - Ghana electricity access is 5.7/7 that about 80% electricity access.

Just30:
nedco has over 700,000 customers and 800,000 meters distributed.

Ecg has over 4 million customers now with over 4.6 million meters distributed

Vra has over 300,000 customers with over 500,000 meters distributed in it catchment area..


Okay let's assume Ghana has 8 million households

And there are 2 households in one house, how many houses will you have ?

Just30:
and yet temperatures at it peak during snow time is always in the 20s

You are beyond dumb if you don't know the freezing temperature of water.

Just30:
[code][/code] nedco has over 700,000 customers and 800,000 meters distributed.

Ecg has over 4 million customers now with over 4.6 million meters distributed

Vra has over 300,000 customers with over 500,000 meters distributed in it catchment area..


Okay let's assume Ghana has 8 million households

And there are 2 households in one house, how many houses will you have ?

Ghana is not kenya where 70% of you guys live in villages without electricity poles let alone having meters connecting them to the grid.

In Ghana, every village has electricity with everyone connected

You have zero sources. Stop humoring yourself hobbit.

rvp2018:
You're national embarrassment to Ghana. Do you even listen to yourself. Snow melt at 1 degrees - so how can temperature be 20s. Do you just like arguing for it's sake mo.oron?

you are a disgrace to kenya .

Do you even know what climate is?

Do you even think about 5he things you type before posting?

All the nonsense you've been spewing is just to an attempt to tell us that kenya have a minuscule electricity consumption not because of poverty where people can only afford to have 1 bedroom and one bulb in their house but because temperatures ranges from 20 to 27 degrees so they don't need big houses of their own and all the goodness of life like TV,computers, AC and etc.

gallivant:
You have zero sources. Stop humoring yourself hobbit.

go back pages and see sources

Illiterate Zombie

He is national monument of shame. Ghana need to review it's education goals.

gallivant:
You are beyond dumb if you don't know the freezing temperature of water.

gallivant:
You are beyond dumb if you don't know the freezing temperature of water.

you are an illiterate so I don't expect you to know the things I'm talking about

Kenya is not a secret destination like North Korea. You can go to youtube, check pictures and you'll see we don't really need AC in most of kenya - so yes our electricity consumption is low. We don't need to spend a lot of money on heating or cooling down our houses. That is GOOD thing. Obviously if you want to use electricity consumption as indicator of wealth singularly without other indicators - then you're a well a Ghanain Moro.n.

Just30:
you are a disgrace to kenya .

Do you even know what climate is?

Do you even think about 5he things you type before posting?

All the nonsense you've been spewing is just to an attempt to tell us that kenya have a minuscule electricity consumption not because of poverty where people can only afford to have 1 bedroom and one bulb in their house but because temperatures ranges from 20 to 27 degrees so they don't need big houses of their own and all the goodness of life like TV,computers, AC and etc.

rvp2018:
No. Your low agricultural productivity make sure of that; otherwise you have more than enough arable land; to feed the world. Heck before oil messed Nigeria - you were world biggest export of palm oil. The same palm oil earns likes of Malaysia more than your oil.

Heck river Niger alone can irrigate and feed Africa.

Low agricultural productivity??...that’s correct.

But that doesn’t dispute the fact that Nigeria has the largest agricultural output in the whole of Africa

rvp2018:
Okay any links to the data?
Mo.oron understand this - when Ghana do census - they count go to every house - and count the occupant - that become an household.
In Survey or Census - it the first question.
They go to every house with people - ask who Household Head is - and then members of that household present.
Then they do national total.
Some household have 20 members - some have single person.
On average in Ghana it come down to 4.5 person per house.
That become average Household Size of Ghana.
And we know the number of houses with humans in Ghana to be 7M.

Now 4.5+0.8+0.3 is a little over 5.7M out 7M

So if we take your data at it highest (despite the obvious lack of credibility) - Ghana electricity access is 5.7/7 that about 80% electricity access.

Mo*ron they will count households and not houses.
Is it that you don't know that there are houses with over 20 households living in them?

Households do not have 20 members in Ghana, they have 5 members. Father, mother and on average 3 children.


Ghana electricity access is 90% already

Go and fix you electricity mess where the Israelis are milking you guys like cow.

I still can't believe your country have been running to catch up to Ghana for 20 years and it is still far behind.

The first thing in census is household mapping;
Every house with people is marked.
Long before the day of census.
During census - the occupant of a house - are counted - and that become a HOUSEHOLD
Household - is a house and it's occupants - doesn't have to be a family - although most of them are families
So Household is equivalent to family.
Having average of 5 - doesn't mean some household do not have 10 kids.

You lack of education is appalling.

Now surely we have to teach your basic of everything.

Isrealis involved in our electricity sector - since WHEN ?

Our geothermal is mostly JAPANESE and drilling now by China.

Most of turbines from Mistumi/Mistubishi...some by Toyota..and also Hyudai.

Just30:
Mo*ron they will count households and not houses.
Is it that you don't know that there are houses with over 20 households living in them?

Households do not have 20 members in Ghana, they have 5 members. Father, mother and on average 3 children.


Ghana electricity access is 90% already

Go and fix you electricity mess where the Israelis are milking you guys like cow.

I still can't believe your country have been running to catch up to Ghana for 20 years and it is still far behind.

rvp2018:
Kenya is not a secret destination like North Korea. You can go to youtube, check pictures and you'll see we don't really need AC in most of kenya - so yes our electricity consumption is low. We don't need to spend a lot of money on heating or cooling down our houses. That is GOOD thing. Obviously if you want to use electricity consumption as indicator of wealth singularly without other indicators - then you're a well a Ghanain Moro.n.

So now pictures measure the need for AC ?

Guy you are mad.
Even SA that is in a temperate to climate zone needs AC how much more Kenya in the hot tropics?

Your people are simply poor and can't afford it and that is why you are here trying to paint a pic of not needing it.

Imagine Russia and Canada saying they don't need heating, that is how stupid you sound.


Oh so you don't know that electricity usage is one of the best measurement of wealth ?

Just check a satellite picture of North Korea and South Korea. It show the development and the growth of a society.

We don't generally need AC - plain simple. We have perfect temperatures.

Even tourist hotels do not have AC - AC is just unnecessary.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294207-i9695-k11971402-Air_conditioning-Nairobi.html

Kenya and Ghana GDP per capita are near equal...so they are many indicators mo.ron that we use to measure country wealth

Just30:
So now pictures measure the need for AC ?

Electricity consumption is indicator - just like many others - but every country has it unique circumstance - for example South Africa electricity is so large by even world standards - because of their minning.

They are many other indicators - that - tell the whole story.

Kenya GDP per capita and Ghana GDP per capita are now nearly equal at around 2000.

Guy you are mad.
Even SA that is in a temperate to climate zone needs AC how much more Kenya in the hot tropics?

Your people are simply poor and can't afford it and that is why you are here trying to paint a pic of not needing it.

Imagine Russia and Canada saying they don't need heating, that is how stupid you sound.


Oh so you don't know that electricity usage is one of the best measurement of wealth ?

Just check a satellite picture of North Korea and South Korea. It show the development and the growth of a society.

rvp2018:
The first thing in census is household mapping;
Every house with people is marked.
Long before the day of census.
During census - the occupant of a house - are counted - and that become a HOUSEHOLD
Household - is a house and it's occupants - doesn't have to be a family - although most of them are families
So Household is equivalent to family.
Having average of 5 - doesn't mean some household do not have 10 kids.

You lack of education is appalling.

Now surely we have to teach your basic of everything.

Isrealis involved in our electricity sector - since WHEN ?

Our geothermal is mostly JAPANESE and drilling now by China.

Most of turbines from Mistumi/Mistubishi.

household is counted base on family unit and not houses.
The number of members in a house is taken in total and the individual households which is the family units are counted and the total family size taken.

At the national level, they stack an average family size and then devide it by total population to makes up the household size.


Learn the meaning of average


Just Google Ormit

They are the owners of most of the geothermal plants in kenya and the brine your officials to keep bankrupting kenya power.

rvp2018:
We don't generally need AC - plain simple. We have perfect temperatures.

Even tourist hotels do not have AC - AC is just unnecessary.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294207-i9695-k11971402-Air_conditioning-Nairobi.html

Kenya and Ghana GDP per capita are near equal...so they are many indicators mo.ron that we use to measure country wealth

Ghana and which country GDP per capacity looks equal? How is 1750 and 2300 dollars an equal measurement?
I'll spare you, your math is not strong.



All hotels in kenya have ACs , don't be a fool .