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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:12pm On Apr 10, 2021
I don't need to google because I have done so many survey and census.
Household is NOT Family slowpoke.
Household is a house and it's occupant.
During survey - there is normal a question asked on relationship btw Household Head and the occupant
They can say - spoue/son/daughter/relative.

For the electricity access - all we care about is to have every HOUSE with people in it - supplied with electricity.

Now 7.1M Ghanian household - how many have electricity.

Provide data with LINKS.

Isreali owning Geothermal in Kenya is the Usual Madness from you.

Our Geothermal plant is owned by KENGEN - which is own by Kenya Gov and public (30%).

I don't think there is a single Isreali owned power plant of ANY type in Kenya.

Perhaps you're confusing Kenyan-Isreali owned HYOUNG contractors - who are just building and construction - company - not involved in power plants - they just DO CIVIL WORK on power plants.

Just30:
household is counted base on family unit and not houses.
The number of members in a house is taken in total and the individual households which is the family units are counted and the total family size taken.

At the national level, they stack an average family size and then devide it by total population to makes up the household size.

Just Google Ormit

They are the owners of most of the geothermal plants in kenya and the brine your officials to keep bankrupting kenya power. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:19pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
I don't need to google because I have done so many survey and census.
Household is NOT Family slowpoke.
Household is a house and it's occupant.
During survey - there is normal a question asked on relationship btw Household Head and the occupant
They can say - spoue/son/daughter/relative.

For the electricity access - all we care about is to have every HOUSE with people in it - supplied with electricity.

Now 7.1M Ghanian household - how many have electricity.

Provide data with LINKS.
so you were part of the fools whom your politicians bribed to reduce kenya population by 5 million?

I've done census on a few occasions and I will be part of this years own.

Mo*ron is based on family units and not houses fool.


Every house with people in it have electricity in Ghna and it include villages. The only people not connected current are people in overseas areas .

Hope you can say same for kenya, unfortunately you can't because the 70% villagers in kenya have not even seen electric poles before.

OrPower 4 is owned by Ormit
(It is also called Olkaria 3 geothermal power station)

Should I name more?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:20pm On Apr 10, 2021
Kenya GDP now is 99B divided population of 49m - 2,020
Ghana GDP now is 68B divided by population of 32m - 2,100
The difference is not even 100 dollars...more like 80 dollars.

Kenya hotels in tropical highlands including NAIROBI do not have AC - except those along coast and in semi-arid areas.

Just30:
grin grin Ghana and which country GDP per capacity looks equal? How is 1750 and 2300 dollars an equal measurement?
I'll spare you, your math is not strong.

grin grin

All hotels in kenya have ACs , don't be a fool .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:25pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Kenya GDP now is 99B divided population of 49m - 2,020
Ghana GDP now is 68B divided by population of 32m - 2,100
The difference is not even 100 dollars...more like 80 dollars.

Kenya hotels in tropical highlands including NAIROBI do not have AC - except those along coast and in semi-arid areas.
first of all, Kenya population is 53 million.
Secondly, Ghana population is 30 million.
Thirdly, Ghana GDP is 75 billion dollars.

Ofcourse Airbnb in forests and villages in Kenya do not have AC simply because most of those villages don't have access to electricity.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:27pm On Apr 10, 2021
Family size/Household size are generally close to be insigificant - so don't sweat it. Most people like to live as families - not strangers.

Kenya population in 2009 had issues. Somalis inflated their figures by 2m-3m - by rigging census and counting somalia somalis.
They tried to pull the Nigeria kind of Census Mess.
The Census body cancelled the figures - and but Somalis went to court - and won.
So 2009 population officially as court sanctioned was 40m - although KNBS and gov officially knew 38M was credible.

Come 2019 - strict measures were put in places and those that tried to manipulate census - were arrested.

And the figure was 47.5m.

Those using projected figures - are projecting from 2009 - 42M.

There are many ways to validate census - and in kenya we normally do a large household survey - of 100K - mid way - we did in 2016 - and that should generally check census.

Or you end up like Nigeria.

Just30:
so you were part of the fools whom your politicians bribed to reduce kenya population by 5 million?

I've done census on a few occasions and I will be part of this years own.

Mo*ron is based on family units and not houses fool.


Every house with people in it have electricity in Ghna and it include villages. The only people not connected current are people in overseas areas .

Hope you can say same for kenya, unfortunately you can't because the 70% villagers in kenya have not even seen electric poles before.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:31pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Family size/Household size are generally close to be insigificant - so don't sweat it. Most people like to live as families - not strangers.

Kenya population in 2009 had issues. Somalis inflated their figures by 2m-3m - by rigging census and counting somalia somalis.
They tried to pull the Nigeria kind of Census Mess.
The Census body cancelled the figures - and but Somalis went to court - and won.
So 2009 population official was 42m - although KNBS and gov officially knew 39M was credible.

Come 2019 - strict measures were put in places and those that tried to manipulate census - were arrested.

And the figure was 47.5m.

Those using projected figures - are projecting from 2009 - 42M.

There are many ways to validate census - and in kenya we normally do a large household survey - of 100K - mid way - we did in 2016 - and that should generally check census.

Or you end up like Nigeria.
kwasia, so a whole village is a family er?
You fool too much grin grin grin.


Another excuse

Your lazy officials decided to reduce the population in slums to save face and that is how come you came up with the 48 million
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 2:33pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Yes it already largest; ignore Nigeria cooked stats; Angola has really bitten the dust with Sudan. Kenya will overtake Morroco soon.
For sure it's figures doesn't add up...I think it's real GDP per capita should be around $1,200 this year
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:37pm On Apr 10, 2021
Even when you live in villages; each household or hut will be counted seperately.

Kenya is entering a demographic transition - and we are starting to reap from our huge investment in Population Control and Family Planning.

Remember we have Sub Sahara Africa highest Contraceptive usage - more than 60% of our women are on family planning drugs.

Now what we are seeing is population coming down! The 10-14 are the largest cohort - while 5-10 are more than 0-4 - so you can see - we are 5 or 10yrs from DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSITION and our economy will BROOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile you're breeding like rats with Nigerians. All the economic growth you have is being made nonsense per capita wise by population growing on steroids.


Just30:
kwasia, so a whole village is a family er?
You fool too much grin grin grin.
Another excuse
Your lazy officials decided to reduce the population in slums to save face and that is how come you came up with the 48 million
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:45pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Even when you live in villages; each household or hut will be counted seperately.

Kenya is entering a demographic transition - and we are starting to reap from our huge investment in Population Control and Family Planning.

Remember we have Sub Sahara Africa highest Contraceptive usage - more than 60% of our women are on family planning drugs.

Now what we are seeing is population coming down! The 10-14 are the largest cohort - while 5-10 are more than 0-4 - so you can see - we are 5 or 10yrs from DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSITION and our economy will BROOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile you're breeding like rats with Nigerians.
Of course each household in every house is counted separately, even in villages. Ghanaian villagers don't live in huts anyway.


grin grin grin if you where making use of contraceptives, your country won't be having an explosion in HIV spread.
If you were making use of contraceptives, more than 1.2 million children won't be born every year in kenya.

Only 350,000 children are born in Ghana every year.

Now tell me who is giving birth like rats ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:51pm On Apr 10, 2021
Ghana fertility rate is 3.8 - and kenya is down around 3 now. That is why you're insisting that kenya population is 53m...when our census said 47m.
Just30:
Of course each household in every house is counted separately, even in villages. Ghanaian villagers don't live in huts anyway.


grin grin grin if you where making use of contraceptives, your country won't be having an explosion in HIV spread.
If you were making use of contraceptives, more than 1.2 million children won't be born every year in kenya.

Only 350,000 children are born in Ghana every year.

Now tell me who is giving birth like rats ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:52pm On Apr 10, 2021
Alternate facts from the resident slowpoke. Show us how you grow your economy from 68 to 75B in corona period.
Just30:
first of all, Kenya population is 53 million.
Secondly, Ghana population is 30 million.
Thirdly, Ghana GDP is 75 billion dollars.

Ofcourse Airbnb in forests and villages in Kenya do not have AC simply because most of those villages don't have access to electricity.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:55pm On Apr 10, 2021
Fool when did Ormat become Isrealis.
Ormat is new power plant built by USA company using Obama's Africa Power - funding from USAID.
Ghana was kicked out Power Africa - by failing to honour IPPS agreement.
Just30:
OrPower 4 is owned by Ormit
(It is also called Olkaria 3 geothermal power station)

Should I name more?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:02pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Ghana fertility rate is 3.8 - and kenya is down around 3 now. That is why you're insisting that kenya population is 53m...when our census said 47m.
In order to know the number of children who are born per year, we can simply look at the number of children who write certification Examinations from junior high school to High school.

This is the number of children who sat for KCPE 2020 in Kenya
1,187,517


This is the number of students who sat for BECE 2020 in Ghana
531,705
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:05pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Alternate facts from the resident slowpoke. Show us how you grow your economy from 68 to 75B in corona period.
Who said, economic activity seized to exist during corona virus period?

There was a 26% increment in cargo handling at Ghana ports
There was a 12% growth in exports.

The cedi remain stable


Mo*ron
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:05pm On Apr 10, 2021
Like I told the 10-14 age cohort (that kids sitting for KCPE) are the highest in kenya - but since about 15yrs from now - kenyans have been getting less and less kids.

We are now getting 0.6M kids annually from more than 1M a decade ago.

Ghana can only dream about this.
https://housingfinanceafrica.org/app/uploads/Kenya-population-pyramid.jpg
Just30:
In order to know the number of children who are born per year, we can simply look at the number of children who write certification Examinations from junior high school to High school.

This is the number of children who sat for KCPE 2020 in Kenya
1,187,517


This is the number of students who sat for BECE 2020 in Ghana
531,705
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:09pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Fool when did Ormat become Isrealis.
Ormat is new power plant built by USA company using Obama's Africa Power - funding from USAID.
Ghana was kicked out Power Africa - by failing to honour IPPS agreement.
This fool does not know that Ormat is an Israeli company grin grin grin

You can try learning about the global investigation into the company for it corrupt practises.


USA gov't got pissed that we didn't allow their corrupt practices to take root in Ghana when an investigative journalist in Ghana exposed the fraud that was being committed which led to Ghana cancelling the entire transaction.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:09pm On Apr 10, 2021
IMF projected 0.9% growth. Basically from 67B to now 68B. Get it resident Nut.job
Just30:
Who said, economic activity seized to exist during corona virus period?

There was a 26% increment in cargo handling at Ghana ports
There was a 12% growth in exports.

The cedi remain stable


Mo*ron
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:11pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Like I told the 10-14 age cohort (that kids sitting for KCPE) are the highest in kenya - but since about 15yrs from now - kenyans have been getting less and less kids.

We are now getting 0.6M kids annually from more than 1M a decade ago.

Ghana can only dream about this.
https://housingfinanceafrica.org/app/uploads/Kenya-population-pyramid.jpg
You are such a fool

do you even understand the Chart you posted?

grin grin grin grin

oh Lord have Mercy

Do you know that, 1.3 Million children were born in Kenya in 2020?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:13pm On Apr 10, 2021
Nope - Ormat is US company founded by Isreali. That is why it got Power Africa funds. They are minor player in Kenya power sector.

As for cancelling international contracts based on some Ghana investigation - tough luck.

International contracts are cancelled in London or such places...NOT ACCRA.

You're not only going to lose future IPP contracts, Power Africa funding but you'll pay - because nobody gives a damn about what Ghana - in international contracts.

Just30:
This fool does not know that Ormat is an Israeli company grin grin grin

You can try learning about the global investigation into the company for it corrupt practises.


USA gov't got pissed that we didn't allow their corrupt practices to take root in Ghana when an investigative journalist in Ghana exposed the fraud that was being committed which led to Ghana cancelling the entire transaction.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:15pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
IMF projected 0.9% growth. Basically from 67B to now 68B. Get it resident Nut.job
Good you used the word projected

That projection was made with the view that the Ghana cedi was going to depreciate by at least 6% but that did not happen
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:18pm On Apr 10, 2021
Of course. It very funny when a resident oxymoron like you attempt to sound intelligent.

Kenya demographic is forming a developed world kind of population pyramid.

1) Kenya
2) Ghana
3) Europe

Now see who is demographic transitioning into having more adults (more wealth)- and less kids (dependency ratio)

Just30:
You are such a fool

do you even understand the Chart you posted?

grin grin grin grin

oh Lord have Mercy

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:19pm On Apr 10, 2021
That is growth rate. Cedis didn't appreciate. That is why you economy grew by 1B to 68B.
Just30:
Good you used the word projected

That projection was made with the view that the Ghana cedi was going to depreciate by at least 6% but that did not happen
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:20pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Nope - Ormat is US company founded by Isreali. That is why it got Power Africa funds. They are minor player in Kenya power sector.

As for cancelling international contracts based on some Ghana investigation - tough luck.

International contracts are cancelled in London or such places...NOT ACCRA.

You're not only going to lose future IPP contracts, Power Africa funding but you'll pay - because nobody gives a damn about what Ghana - in international contracts.
So it's an Israeli company

Now that we know the ownership, can you stop making noise?

Too bad this international contract was signed with The Ghanaian courts being the place for mediation.
The contract was cancelled, 3 years ago and that has been the end of it.

Power Africa money is peanut and it was money we didn't even need.
We will list our company on the stock market and make more money.

More IPPs are even begging us to sign contracts with them so they can build their plants.
a 1000MW wind power projects was just given the go-ahead this year.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:24pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Of course. It very funny when a resident oxymoron like you attempt to sound intelligent.

Kenya demographic is forming a developed world kind of population pyramid.

1) Kenya
2) Ghana
3) Europe

Now see who is demographic transitioning into having more adults (more wealth)- and less kids (dependency ratio)
Just look at the ages of the group of people you circled and make corrections to this quote.

it means that, every year, 1.3 million Kenyans are born.
Looking at kenyan resources, it cant sustain that.
This explains the humongous levels of poverty in Kenya.

About 40 million people highly dependent on 8 million people for survival.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:25pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
That is growth rate. Cedis didn't appreciate. That is why you economy grew by 1B to 68B.
of course the cedi Appreciated

The growth rate was a projection base on corona

Fortunately the economy performed way better than projected

Do you know what a 26% growth in Cargo handling at port means?

it means huge economic activity growth and that is why the GDP of Ghana is 433 billion cedis
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:26pm On Apr 10, 2021
It not Isreali Company. It a US company. If a Ghanian formed a company in US - does it become a Ghanian company?
Ormat is new player who came to take advantage of Power Africa free money from US.
As for Ghana - that is just one of many contracts - you signed like the .idiots you're.
Take or Pay.
As we speak your grid has collapsed - meaning your cannot take - and have to PAY for idle power smiley

You slowpoke.s are paying 1.3B dollars - the same money you make from OIL - for free AIR


The result is that the government is paying over US$500m (almost Ghana Cedis 2.5 billion) annually for power generation capacity that’s not being used.

There is also an overhang for gas. And because the government contracted gas supply on a take-or-pay basis, it must pay whether the gas is utilised or not. Thus, from 2020, if nothing changes, Ghana will face annual excess gas capacity charges of between US$550 and US$850 million yearly. This is even after the current government terminated two other liquefied natural gas contracts in 2017.
https://theconversation.com/lessons-to-be-learnt-from-ghanas-excess-electricity-shambles-121257

Just30:
So it's an Israeli company

Now that we know the ownership, can you stop making noise?

Too bad this international contract was signed with The Ghanaian courts being the place for mediation.
The contract was cancelled, 3 years ago and that has been the end of it.

Power Africa money is peanut and it was money we didn't even need.
We will list our company on the stock market and make more money.

More IPPs are even begging us to sign contracts with them so they can build their plants.
a 1000MW wind power projects was just given the go-ahead this year.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:28pm On Apr 10, 2021
No moro.n. You cannot read a simple grap. The X axis is showing 300,000 for Men and 300,000 for women...so annually it 0.6m.

Just30:
Just look at the ages of the group of people you circled and make corrections to this quote.

it means that, every year, 1.3 million Kenyans are born.
Looking at kenyan resources, it cant sustain that.
This explains the humongous levels of poverty in Kenya.

About 40 million people highly dependent on 8 million people for survival.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:30pm On Apr 10, 2021
What has port got to do with economic growth. Last I checked you ports were doing 12M metric tonnes - while kenya is heading to 40M metric tonnes.

Show us how you got 75B from last year 68B - despite corona.

All I need is growth rate (0.9%) and USD appreciation rate (year-on-year depreciated by 0.8%)

Just30:
of course the cedi Appreciated

The growth rate was a projection base on corona

Fortunately the economy performed way better than projected

Do you know what a 26% growth in Cargo handling at port means?

it means huge economic activity growth and that is why the GDP of Ghana is 433 billion cedis
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ovcwality(m): 3:35pm On Apr 10, 2021
Stevoh18:
For sure it's figures doesn't add up...I think it's real GDP per capita should be around $1,200 this year
You guys are really funny on this thread, so you think Nigeria politicians will increase or cook fake gdp for what purpose? even if they will cook gdp, it is more likely they will reduce it rather than increase, to favour their corruption
I hope this thread should still be alive in 5 years time, lets see if your prediction of egypt surpassing Nigeria will be correct

Anyways i know this thread is for competition but at heart you guys should be hoping for other african countries to develop especially sub sahara african, I will visit kenya in the future by god grace, will contact rvp2019 then even if it is in 10 years time
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:40pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
It not Isreali Company. It a US company. If a Ghanian formed a company in US - does it become a Ghanian company?
Ormat is new player who came to take advantage of Power Africa free money from US.
As for Ghana - that is just one of many contracts - you signed like the .idiots you're.
Take or Pay.
As we speak your grid has collapsed - meaning your cannot take - and have to PAY for idle power smiley

You slowpoke.s are paying 1.3B dollars - the same money you make from OIL - for free AIR


The result is that the government is paying over US$500m (almost Ghana Cedis 2.5 billion) annually for power generation capacity that’s not being used.

There is also an overhang for gas. And because the government contracted gas supply on a take-or-pay basis, it must pay whether the gas is utilised or not. Thus, from 2020, if nothing changes, Ghana will face annual excess gas capacity charges of between US$550 and US$850 million yearly. This is even after the current government terminated two other liquefied natural gas contracts in 2017.
https://theconversation.com/lessons-to-be-learnt-from-ghanas-excess-electricity-shambles-121257
Good luck on that

The entire world knows it to be an Israeli company.

Yes, it becomes a Ghanaian company based in the US.


The only free money Ormat is taking advantage of is the one from Kenya power.
It is part of the reason why Kenya power will remain insolvent.

Ghana does not pay anyone for it 1000mw unused capacity anymore.
All those IPPs have now become the properties of the Ghanaian Gov't as there has been a transfer in ownership.

For instance, the Ghanaian Gov't have shut down the 400MW BUI power dam for 3 months which it now fully owns.
This is to grow the dam water level.

Karpower has been handed over to Ghana
Ameri is now fully owned by gov't

Can you tell the forum how 500 million which was being paid in 2016 to 19 became 1.3 billion dollars?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30:
rvp2018:
No moro.n. You cannot read a simple grap. The X axis is showing 300,000 for Men and 300,000 for women...so annually it 0.6m.
The x axis is showing 3,000,000 for male and 3,000,000 female from 0-4 years according to the graph

divide 6 million people by 4 years and see if it wouldn't be 1.5 million people per year.
So i was even generous when i quoted 1.3 million people per year

Math is not your strong area but addition, division and subtractions is for babies.
If you can't get this right, how will you even understand Interpolation, variations and calculus
?

Mo*ron
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:50pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
What has port got to do with economic growth. Last I checked you ports were doing 12M metric tonnes - while kenya is heading to 40M metric tonnes.

Show us how you got 75B from last year 68B - despite corona.

All I need is growth rate (0.9%) and USD appreciation rate (year-on-year depreciated by 0.8%)
You dont know what ports have to do with economic growth?

for instance, import and export can be used to measure the level of activity in an economy.

That is why even though China suferred some economic slow down in the first 3 months of the year which led to a slow down in their import and export. But when the whole world caught the virus, economic activity in China picked up with led to an increase in export and import.

that is the same thing that happened in Ghana

First of all, Ghana GDP was 68 billion dollars in 2019.

An expansion general economic activity especially in the manufacturing sector, agriculture and an appreciation of the Cedi pushed it to 433 billion cedis.

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