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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PetroDolla2020: 4:00pm On Apr 10, 2021
Shut up, edi0t! Who told you Ghana’s grid has collapsed? I am at home in Accra, and I have electricity from the national grid.

Kenyshit kenya republic of China produces a miserable 2,000MW for your 46 million starving population, and you are not ashamed? grin

Stop talking nonsense this afternoon, kenyaboy grin Kenya is no match for Ghana. That is reality grin



rvp2018:
It not Isreali Company. It a US company. If a Ghanian formed a company in US - does it become a Ghanian company?
Ormat is new player who came to take advantage of Power Africa free money from US.
As for Ghana - that is just one of many contracts - you signed like the .idiots you're.
Take or Pay.
As we speak your grid has collapsed - meaning your cannot take - and have to PAY for idle power smiley

You slowpoke.s are paying 1.3B dollars - the same money you make from OIL - for free AIR


The result is that the government is paying over US$500m (almost Ghana Cedis 2.5 billion) annually for power generation capacity that’s not being used.

There is also an overhang for gas. And because the government contracted gas supply on a take-or-pay basis, it must pay whether the gas is utilised or not. Thus, from 2020, if nothing changes, Ghana will face annual excess gas capacity charges of between US$550 and US$850 million yearly. This is even after the current government terminated two other liquefied natural gas contracts in 2017.
https://theconversation.com/lessons-to-be-learnt-from-ghanas-excess-electricity-shambles-121257
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PetroDolla2020: 4:08pm On Apr 10, 2021
You are very stvpid foool. Smoking weed and spewing crass crap! Is there any logic in the nonsense you spewed out? Fuckeduppedness
Your starving, clueless mudder fuggerz survive on a miserable 1,000MW despite your 50 million apes population?

rvp2018:
Sounds like you are deteriorating - did you just have your electricity cut smiley.
I just gave you emperical data showing kenya electricity (at it worst) is twice more reliable than Ghana (at it best)
Again Kenya electricity has always been reliable - except for brief period of 1999-2001.
You installed/theorical power is large than kenya- overcapacity that send you to IMF - where you invited IPPS to come and build - power plants -after the 2015 DUMSOR crisis
However at any given time - they can only generate 2400MW - because well your
gov is broke to pay IPPS -or Nigeria gas - or the network is rickety.
What you consume - if we remove system losses - and all that - I bet is 1500MW.
Now kenya - we had ambition to get to 5000MW by 2020 - but we stopped - when we realized there was no effective demand - we had the foresight to stop at 3000MW. Now we are paying overcapacity charge of 500MW. It not as bad as Ghana - who were bankrupted by overcapacity charge - and now are losing 3B dollars annually - that is like 1/5 of your budget on overcapacity charge.

As for kenya climate - Kenya sits on tropical highlands - that is why we have SNOW capped mountains.

Nairobi lies 2000M above the sea level. Temperatures through out the year over around 20-30 degrees. You don't need AC. You will not see an AC or even fan in Nairobi or most of kenya. Check pictures of Kenya - and show me an AC. Yes in Northern Kenya - low lying plains - temperature rises to 40 celsius - but it mostly wild desert with little human habitation.

Tropical highlands are some of best climate a human being can live in. Countries that enjoy such climate include parts of India, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Kenya, South Africa, Mexico, and Brazil.

In short - Tropical+Highlands - give you the best climate all year round. No need for expensive energy to heat or cool down the climate - that is why our power consumption per capita is rock bottom.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:24pm On Apr 10, 2021
Long story short.Where did you get 75B dollars. 68B dollars is what we get from IMF/WB.
Just30:
You dont know what ports have to do with economic growth?

for instance, import and export can be used to measure the level of activity in an economy.

That is why even though China suferred some economic slow down in the first 3 months of the year which led to a slow down in their import and export. But when the whole world caught the virus, economic activity in China picked up with led to an increase in export and import.

that is the same thing that happened in Ghana

First of all, Ghana GDP was 68 billion dollars in 2019.

An expansion general economic activity especially in the manufacturing sector, agriculture and an appreciation of the Cedi pushed it to 433 billion cedis.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:26pm On Apr 10, 2021
0-4 is 5 yrs - the rest of your nonsense is not worth a response.
Just30:
The x axis is showing 3,000,000 for male and 3,000,000 female from 0-4 years according to the graph

divide 6 million people by 4 years and see if it wouldn't be 1.5 million people per year.
So i was even generous when i quoted 1.3 million people per year

Math is not your strong area but addition, division and subtractions is for babies.
If you can't get this right, how will you even understand Interpolation, variations and calculus
?

Mo*ron
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:26pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Long story short.Where did you get 75B dollars. 68B dollars is what we get from IMF/WB.
Long story short check Ghana central bank data and Ghana finance ministry data and the budget.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:29pm On Apr 10, 2021
Lying require some intelligences
2021 Feb
Ghana settled half its debt to energy producers who’d threatened to turn the lights off in the West African economy over their inability to cover operational costs.

Ghana paid $750 million in tranches over the last three months, Elikplim Apetorgbor, who heads a chamber that brings together companies responsible for close to half of the country’s peak energy demand, said by phone Wednesday.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-17/ghana-pays-half-its-debt-to-power-producers-with-750-million

Just30:
Good luck on that

The entire world knows it to be an Israeli company.

Yes, it becomes a Ghanaian company based in the US.


The only free money Ormat is taking advantage of is the one from Kenya power.
It is part of the reason why Kenya power will remain insolvent.

Ghana does not pay anyone for it 1000mw unused capacity anymore.
All those IPPs have now become the properties of the Ghanaian Gov't as there has been a transfer in ownership.

For instance, the Ghanaian Gov't have shut down the 400MW BUI power dam for 3 months which it now fully owns.
This is to grow the dam water level.

Karpower has been handed over to Ghana
Ameri is now fully owned by gov't

Can you tell the forum how 500 million which was being paid in 2016 to 19 became 1.3 billion dollars?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:29pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
0-4 is 5 yrs - the rest of your nonsense is not worth a response.
kwasia

You fool too much
O-1 that one year
1- 2 is the second year
2-3 is the third year
3- 4 is the 4th year

Where is the 5th?

Idiots and a mo*Ron grin grin grin grin grin grin


Empty head
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:30pm On Apr 10, 2021
No source.Cropped imaged. Is that projection or actual?
Just30:
Long story short check Ghana central bank data and Ghana finance ministry data and the budget.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:31pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Lying require some intelligences
2021 Feb
Ghana settled half its debt to energy producers who’d threatened to turn the lights off in the West African economy over their inability to cover operational costs.

Ghana paid $750 million in tranches over the last three months, Elikplim Apetorgbor, who heads a chamber that brings together companies responsible for close to half of the country’s peak energy demand, said by phone Wednesday.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-17/ghana-pays-half-its-debt-to-power-producers-with-750-million
that was for monies accrued to IPPs over a 4 years period

A total of 1.4 billion accrued over 4 years period was paid in half.

Reading data require knowledge of the data
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:32pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
No source.Cropped imaged. Is that projection or actual?
the source is bank of Ghana and finance ministry and quoted below the chart

Now you problem is how I cropped the data?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:33pm On Apr 10, 2021
Age-sex cohorts are 5yrs band - everyone knows that
0-4 (Under 5 yrs cohort - from 0.1 to 4.999)
0 (<1)
1
2
3
4 (<5)
The next 5 year cohort
5-9 (Under 10yrs)

Just30:
kwasia

You fool too much
O-1 that one year
1- 2 is the second year
2-3 is the third year
3- 4 is the 4th year

Where is the 5th?

Idiots and a mo*Ron grin grin grin grin grin grin


Empty head
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:36pm On Apr 10, 2021
Just paste the link hobbit...so we can read for ourselves...the miracle of economy that grew from 67B to 75B under corona smiley
Just30:
the source is bank of Ghana and finance ministry and quoted below the chart

Now you problem is how I cropped the data?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:36pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Age-sex cohorts are 5yrs band - everyone knows that
0-4 (Under 5 yrs cohort)
0 (<1)
1
2
3
4 (<5)
The next 5 year cohort
5-9
so you want to go to year 5 to 9 which is another 4 years period and has almost 8 or 9 million people?

grin grin grin grin

This is funny


Shut up with the noise and receive wisdom as I've exposed you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:37pm On Apr 10, 2021
So you owe them 4yr debt - but somehow you managed to buy them - and yet they are still threatening to shut down power. Sounds like a bridge to nowhere. Stop lying mo.ron.
Just30:
that was for monies accrued to IPPs over a 4 years period

A total of 1.4 billion accrued over 4 years period was paid in half.

Reading data require knowledge of the data
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:37pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Just paste the link hobbit...so we can read for ourselves...the miracle of economy that grew from 67B to 75B under corona smiley
zombie even if I post the link


Your dumb self would still not be able to read the data so why border?

You can Google Ghana 2021 budget and you will find it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:39pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
So you owe them 4yr debt - but somehow you managed to buy them - and yet they are still threatening to shut down power. Sounds like a bridge to nowhere. Stop lying mo.ron.
we owed them pieces of monies accrued over a 4 years period
And the company's are 90% govt owned companies
Like Ghana Gas
VRA power plants
The only private plants now are
Asogli and T3
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:42pm On Apr 10, 2021
Not everything is simplistic
5-9 is not 5-9=4 smiley smiley
It's 5 year band; under 5 (0-4), under 10 (5-9) - each is 5 year band.
What do you study in Ghana schools?
Just30:
so you want to go to year 5 to 9 which is another 4 years period and has almost 8 or 9 million people?

grin grin grin grin

This is funny


Shut up with the noise and receive wisdom as I've exposed you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:46pm On Apr 10, 2021
So gov is threatening the gov smiley

There is no evidence that broke Ghana gov unable to pay debt - has bought Equity in the IPPS

In total, there are nine IPPs providing electricity, including the 400-MW Bui Dam, seven thermal plants with installed capacity of 1505 MW, and the 20-MW solar plant completed by BXC Ghana, a subsidiary of China-based industrial conglomerate Beijing Fuxing Xiao-Cheng Electronic.

Just30:
we owed them pieces of monies accrued over a 4 years period
And the company's are 90% govt owned companies
Like Ghana Gas
VRA power plants
The only private plants now are
Asogli and T3
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:46pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Not everything is simplistic
5-9 is not 5-9=4 smiley smiley
It's 5 year band; under 5 (0-4), under 10 (5-9) - each is 5 year band.
What do you study in Ghana schools?
so you don't know that this - means to?


So what do they teach you guys in school? grin grin

Each is 4 years kiddo
It is not an under 5 and under 10 years stuff.

Data that you the above and under method quote above and under
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:51pm On Apr 10, 2021
Did you ever study demographics, age-sex cohorts? I really doubt. Kenya education is light years ahead of your double stream catholic funded miseducation.
Just30:
so you don't know that this - means to?


So what do they teach you guys in school? grin grin

Each is 4 years kiddo
It is not an under 5 and under 10 years stuff.

Data that you the above and under method quote above and under
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:54pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
So gov is threatening the gov smiley

There is no evidence that broke Ghana gov unable to pay debt - has bought Equity in the IPPS

In total, there are nine IPPs providing electricity, including the 400-MW Bui Dam, seven thermal plants with installed capacity of 1505 MW, and the 20-MW solar plant completed by BXC Ghana, a subsidiary of China-based industrial conglomerate Beijing Fuxing Xiao-Cheng Electronic.
so you don't know that Gov't businesses can also run like private enterprise?

No wonder kenya power remain bankrupt.

Ghana Gas is a govt owned company and it can threaten to shut down gas supply for nonpayment of money.

Likewise VRA which is also a govt entity.


Ghana does not need to buy equity in any IPP

Ghana only sign IPP contracts in the power sector on a Build Operate and Transfer model.
The time frame is usually 5 years after the 5 years, the Infrastructure becomes Government owned.

Ghana only allow private players who are Ghanaian to own power plants.

Build power plants has been handed over to Volta River Authority. So it is no more an IPP

Likewise all the others.

Ameri
KarPower and the rest
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:57pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Did you ever study demographics, age-sex cohorts? I really doubt. Kenya education is light years ahead of your double stream catholic funded miseducation.
have you ever studied math and statistics?

There is nothing like studying demographics because it is statistics.

Your dilapidated none existence of govt schools and the mental diseases in kenya children is the reason why you are dumb.


No wonder education in kenya is inferior to Ghana


You look at 0 to 4 years and the forum it is 5 years.

Such dumbness can only be produced by kenyan education grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:21pm On Apr 10, 2021
BOT of five years smiley That would be a steal except it only in your deranged mind.

For example

Kpone Independent Power Plant project - BOT of 20yrs.

Just30:
so you don't know that Gov't businesses can also run like private enterprise?

No wonder kenya power remain bankrupt.

Ghana Gas is a govt owned company and it can threaten to shut down gas supply for nonpayment of money.

Likewise VRA which is also a govt entity.


Ghana does not need to buy equity in any IPP

Ghana only sign IPP contracts in the power sector on a Build Operate and Transfer model.
The time frame is usually 5 years after the 5 years, the Infrastructure becomes Government owned.

Ghana only allow private players who are Ghanaian to own power plants.

Build power plants has been handed over to Volta River Authority. So it is no more an IPP

Likewise all the others.

Ameri
KarPower and the rest
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:29pm On Apr 10, 2021
Poor Ghanian. We studied demography in primary and junior secondary.

This is like grade 12 material
https://www.coursehero.com/file/65790923/FORM-FOUR-GEOG-NOTESpdf/

https://www.advance-africa.com/Geography-Notes-Form-4.html

You can get free education here - would helpful - coz clearly the Pope was unfair to Ghana smiley - what do they teach you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pHUzsmpJE8

Just30:
have you ever studied math and statistics?

There is nothing like studying demographics because it is statistics.

Your dilapidated none existence of govt schools and the mental diseases in kenya children is the reason why you are dumb.


No wonder education in kenya is inferior to Ghana


You look at 0 to 4 years and the forum it is 5 years.

Such dumbness can only be produced by kenyan education grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:41pm On Apr 10, 2021
Full streaming of Lagos city Marathon 2021: congrats to the winners grin grin grin
@RVP: can U can see how clean and developed Lagos ?
https://web.facebook.com/lagoscitymarathon/videos/access-bank-lagos-city-marathon-live-2021/634305001089590/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:48pm On Apr 10, 2021
Looks good. But depend on the route chosen. Nairobi Marathon is part of Global Stanchart marathons.
68816419:
Full streaming of Lagos city Marathon 2021: congrats to the winners grin grin grin
@RVP: can U can see how clean and developed Lagos ?
https://web.facebook.com/lagoscitymarathon/videos/access-bank-lagos-city-marathon-live-2021/634305001089590/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:01pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
BOT of five years smiley That would be a steal except it only in your deranged mind.

For example

Kpone Independent Power Plant project - BOT of 20yrs.
Ameri was handed over after 5 years
Bui power was handed over after 5 years
Karpower was handed over after 5 years
Ghana gas paid it loan in 2 years


And likewise the others

KIPP is own by Cenpower, a Ghanaian company.
It is built on a Build own Operate basis and it has a a 20 years power purchasing agreement.

Just like I said before
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:01pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Looks good. But depend on the route chosen. Nairobi Marathon is part of Global Stanchart marathons.
Start point: National Stadium through many areas of Mainland and Finish point @ Eko Atlantic, Lagos is on another level.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:04pm On Apr 10, 2021
Pathological liar. Nobody will do BOT of 5yrs. How will they recoup their investment?

Quick fact-check

The Bui Power Authority, which operates the Bui hydropower station, has awarded 15-year build, operate and transfer (BOT) contracts to private sector partners to finance the scheme.

Just30:
Ameri was handed over after 5 years
Bui power was handed over after 5 years
Karpower was handed over after 5 years
Ghana gas paid it loan in 2 years


And likewise the others

KIPP is own by Cenpower, a Ghanaian company.
It is built on a Build own Operate basis and it has a a 20 years power purchasing agreement.

Just like I said before
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:07pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Poor Ghanian. We studied demography in primary and junior secondary.

This is like grade 12 material
https://www.coursehero.com/file/65790923/FORM-FOUR-GEOG-NOTESpdf/

https://www.advance-africa.com/Geography-Notes-Form-4.html

You can get free education here - would helpful - coz clearly the Pope was unfair to Ghana smiley - what do they teach you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pHUzsmpJE8
in Ghana, you will study demography from Class 1 all the way to secondary school in social studies.

If you study Geography in secondary school, you will study demography and statistics deeper.


That is why Ghanaian students are far knowledgeable than kenyans. That is why Ghanaian students make Ghana qualify to be ranked in Science and Maths on the world stage and kenyans couldn't even be in the top 10 from Africa.


Your none existent schools and birth deficiencies make you guys dumber
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:16pm On Apr 10, 2021
rvp2018:
Pathological liar. Nobody will do BOT of 5yrs. How will they recoup their investment?

Quick fact-check

The Bui Power Authority, which operates the Bui hydropower station, has awarded 15-year build, operate and transfer (BOT) contracts to private sector partners to finance the scheme.
dumb kid

The energy sector in Ghana is lucrative enough for anyone to recoup their money and make profit in 5 years.

Bui Power Authority which owns the dam is awarding contracts to private people to construct a 250MW solar power plants, the private owner investor will own and operate the solar plant for 15 years and hand it to them.

Learn how to read

The hydro power plant is already govt owned.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:26pm On Apr 10, 2021
Just30:
zombie even if I post the link


Your dumb self would still not be able to read the data so why border?

You can Google Ghana 2021 budget and you will find it
Post the link here pathological liar. tongue

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