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somehow:
I know what I want exactly for the roof and the builder knows this too because I have made this known since, so it's not a new development.


I even posted here questions on solar electricity.

Asking to avoid the plaster guys issue on 3strikes roof.

Since you both knew what you wanted, always remind him ahead of the roof installation.

Plastering parapet walls, installing copings must be done prior to installation of your roofing sheets if you want to avoid issues.

erico2k2:
Well yes, and other environmental factors, Imagine having long-span aluminum in an area where you have heavy snow, guess what will happen.The major fault of a bad roofing system would be a leaking roof. When sourcing for my roof, I discovered that most of these step styles are built to failed cos sometimes the die used in casting the moulds on them dig too deep and leave micro piercing on them that you can't even see with the naked eyes, these expand as time goes on. Then on top of this, You want to make it flat.
PS By flat roof hope we are talking of a roof with no inclination!

With inclination or not building a flat roof takes into consideration a lot of things that has to do with climate factors. Those who are actually "Pro" in it do a lot more to consider.
Now I do not think Step tiles are meant to be used for flat roofing as covering. Except maybe it's a Nigerian version of flat roof systems.....

Just out of curiosity can those who have actually done flat roof systems upload their building roof detailing/plan let's see if they are doing what is obtainable at minimum standard or just a Nigerian version...........


Cc
diordaves
n3xt
Rotecch77

rmx:
Honestly don’t know , Good question though . Will put it across to the build team

I no wan do am before sef but go with there advice most times

If you’re not having a double-sides rockwool installed, I believe the film-faced side (vapor barrier) was turned inward for air conditioning duct and pipes.

Knowing the structure, I'm sure that was the intention of the builder.

That’s an excellent one on a commercial build.

bixton:
With inclination or not building a flat roof takes into consideration a lot of things that has to do with climate factors. Those who are actually "Pro" in it do a lot more to consider.
Now I do not think Step tiles are meant to be used for flat roofing as covering. Except maybe it's a Nigerian version of flat roof systems.....

Just out of curiosity can those who have actually done flat roof systems upload their building roof detailing/plan let's see if they are doing what is obtainable at minimum standard or just a Nigerian version...........


Cc
diordaves
n3xt
Rotech

I shoot.

K-024 by NextHome

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Unless where the client insists, step tiles are not meant for flat roofs.

When the client insists...

This is one of the things builders/engineers witness on site. If you don’t trust us, please kindly work with those you trust.

I’m a baba lati and I’m proud of my work.


Pic - Window open inwards. Burglar proof outside.

Abeg this is not NextHome work o

#clientchoice

n3xt:
Since you both knew what you wanted, always remind him ahead of the roof installation.

Plastering parapet walls, installing copings must be done prior to installation of your roofing sheets if you want to avoid issues.

Builder /contractor. You hear?

neduboo:
1 bag of cement is sold at #3450 in my area in Lagos.


Mehn, Nigeria is so fuckin messed up

My site in Shagamu, Dangote to site is #3,300

somehow:
Do you think a flat roof won't have issues by the time solar panel guys come to install the panels on the roof?

A flat roof MAY have serious issues with solar panels installation if the specifics are not followed. Solar panels are notorious in breaching the delicate dynamics of flat roof.

You MUST invest more to install the panels at an inclination (degree angle). See photo. If you install the panels flat bang on the roof as some would do on a pitch roof, this will cause water pooling and if you use less than 0.7mm sheets, there is a greater risk both your panels and roof may fail due to water pooling.

So make sure your contractors install at an angle just like the photo attached.

bixton:
With inclination or not building a flat roof takes into consideration a lot of things that has to do with climate factors. Those who are actually "Pro" in it do a lot more to consider.
Now I do not think Step tiles are meant to be used for flat roofing as covering. Except maybe it's a Nigerian version of flat roof systems.....

Just out of curiosity can those who have actually done flat roof systems upload their building roof detailing/plan let's see if they are doing what is obtainable at minimum standard or just a Nigerian version...........


Cc
diordaves
n3xt
Rotecch77

Sorry nothing to share. Not a fan of flat roof.

diordaves:
A flat roof MAY have serious issues with solar panels installation if the specifics are not followed. Solar panels are notorious in breaching the delicate dynamics of flat roof.

You MUST invest more to install the panels at an inclination (degree angle). See photo. If you install the panels flat bang on the roof as some would do on a pitch roof, this will cause water pooling and if you use less than 0.7mm sheets, there is a greater risk both your panels and roof may fail due to water pooling.

So make sure your contractors install at an angle just like the photo attached.

This is true for a flat roof without inclination. A solar mounting kit with tilt metal will be required where optimum tilt is required.

That’s why everything must be designed on paper and not after the roof has been installed.

diordaves:
A flat roof MAY have serious issues with solar panels installation if the specifics are not followed. Solar panels are notorious in breaching the delicate dynamics of flat roof.

You MUST invest more to install the panels at an inclination (degree angle). See photo. If you install the panels flat bang on the roof as some would do on a pitch roof, this will cause water pooling and if you use less than 0.7mm sheets, there is a greater risk both your panels and roof may fail due to water pooling.

So make sure your contractors install at an angle just like the photo attached.

Noted. Thank you

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n3xt:
At least for now, my recent designs are flat roofs. XL6 Trillion | Atrium House is a flat roof design without a roof top garden and tank slab. But there’s Atrium.

My new design studio is also a flat roof design with steel trusses and an atrium.

A maintenance free build is possible when you build right.
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I recently shared that I’ve not had to repaint my building in almost a decade but I’ve repainted the fence almost 4 times. The difference is in the installation and not the quality of paint.

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The same applies to my gate. I’ve had it installed almost a decade and I’ve not had to do any repairs on it despite the fact that my Neighbour has repaired his almost twice. The difference is in the installation and not in the quality of materials used. We both used same materials but I spent more on my installation.
26 bags of cement to install a gate is not a common install.

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My 25ft tank tower is made with galvanized steel. It hasn’t failed despite the fact that I left it on bare floor/ground for several years (4 years plus) before install. I knew what I wanted and where to get exactly the type of material to achieve it.

When it comes to flat roofs, I’m very thorough and we give it almost all the attention it deserves.

You’ll agree a roof with any form of parapet will last longer and do better than a roof without one. Their major difference will be in their cost-to-install.

Just as a roof with 20ft kingpost will do a better job throwing out water than a flat roof. Their cost will never be the same.

You’ll have to invest something to achieve a completely maintenance free build - not just flat roof.

For me, I’d invest more time on achieving sustainable buildings through variety of alternative options available out there.

While I agree with some vital points you made!

I hope you are not trying to downplay the importance of *Quality Materials* in Buildings or whatever.

n3xt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyDbICwv9hU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UYQBTALJhI

Here’s an image from the manufacturers website. I’ll take live pictures on site later in the morning

Oh Thanks....

hamtabfawaz:
While I agree with some vital points you made!

I hope you are not trying to downplay the importance of *Quality Materials* in Buildings or whatever.

My Definition of Quality

Quality is the totality of features and characteristics of a product or service that bear on its ability to satisfy given needs.

More expensive and stronger does not necessarily mean ‘quality’

I knew many people who used 0.55 roof who have had one issue or the other with their roof while I who used 0.35 haven’t even had any reason to revisit my roof.

The 0.35 material was able to satisfy my need.

#ownerschoice matters here

Remember a N240 block (measuring 9”) couldn’t satisfy the need of my Neighbour who had to push to 13 coaches of blocks while I was only using a N200 block at 12 coaches (measuring 10”) to achieve the same height.

Quality does not necessary mean paying more

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Pls take time to count the number of blocks on both structure.

n3xt:
A lot of people have not bothered to research the importance of Atrium, Fins, Covered Terrace, Recessed/Floor-to-Ceiling Windows, Cabled Railing, Indoor Plants, Trellis, Wraparound Terraces, High Canopy Trees, Trellis and Slats in my builds.

They’re not there for fun. It’s not packaging but designing for sustainability and energy efficiency.

If I had my way, I’ll have the tree in the pic below planted in the atrium of my ongoing build but we’d be fine with evergreen plants.

Aren't Trees usually affected by one insect family or the other......


Won't this pose a big problem

hamtabfawaz:
Aren't Trees usually affected by one insect family or the other......


Won't this pose a big problem

Smiles.

My dad worked in a research institute.

Forestry Research Institute of Nigeria. I know a lot about trees and woods and of course preservation.

Just take a visit to the institute in Jericho Ibadan and ask this question.

My dad worked there for 35 years.

While one is paying more to achieve less, my client is paying less to achieve more.

#qualitydefined

@hamtabfawaz

n3xt:
I shoot.

K-024 by NextHome

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Unless where the client insists, step tiles are not meant for flat roofs.

I won't call that a flat roof as it has an inclination!

erico2k2:
I won't call that a flat roof as it has an inclination!

Na Wetin we dey talk be dat na.

Baba, You think say na zero degree we dey talk? For naija?

n3xt:
Na Wetin we dey talk be dat na.

Baba, You think say na zero degree we dey talk? For naija?

She nah that be absolute flat
Look those houses you post for Dubai, nor be absolute flat them be

erico2k2:
She nah that be absolute flat
Look those houses you post for Dubai, nor be absolute flat them be

They still have sloping roofs. Maybe 10 - 15 degree.

They’re similar to this.

n3xt:
When the client insists...

This is one of the things builders/engineers witness on site. If you don’t trust us, please kindly work with those you trust.

I’m a baba lati and I’m proud of my work.


Pic - Window open inwards. Burglar proof outside.

Abeg this is not NextHome work o

#clientchoice

Don't be so quick in dismissing this client. The client certainly knows what they are doing.

It is possible the client is a German diaspora. In Germany, windows open INWARDS so you can clean them especially upper floors.

If the windows open outward, you can't clean them or struggle to clean them. In the UK just like Nigeria most windows open outward so we employ window cleaners to clean windows. For some who cannot afford window cleaners or rented apartments, what you get are dirty, dusty windows. The same in Nigeria. Dirty, dusty upper floors windows everywhere.

It is possible this client doesn't want to go down that route, hence adopted the German solution.

Burglary protectors are supposed to also protect the glass as well against football by kids playing outside so nothing unusual as installed. In Spain, South America etc, protectors are outside. No big deal.

diordaves:
Don't be so quick in dismissing this client. The client certainly knows what they are doing.

It is possible the client is a German diaspora. In Germany, windows open INWARDS so you can clean them especially upper floors.

If the windows open outward, you can't clean them or struggle to clean them. In the UK just like Nigeria most windows open outward so we employ window cleaners to clean windows. For some who cannot afford window cleaners or rented apartments, what you get are dirty, dusty windows. The same in Nigeria. Dirty, dusty upper floors windows everywhere.

It is possible this client doesn't want to go down that route, hence adopted the German solution.

Burglary protectors are supposed to also protect the glass as well against football by kids playing outside so nothing unusual as installed. In Spain, South America etc, protectors are outside. No big deal.

I think you’re right. I learnt she’s not a Nigerian.

I’m not passing judgement but we need to know why some odd things do happen in a build. It’s not always the fault of the builder but the client might have his/her own reasons for doing what they do.

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Formwork out. Next is reinforcement.

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Production of blocks for the rest of the project is ongoing.

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My thoughts exactly. There is a lot of generalization here. A roof can be flat but with a very good slope. May not compare to a high pitch roof in terms of flow but certainly won't turn to a pool. Na matter of choice. Just finished my "not so flat" roof

erico2k2:
I won't call that a flat roof as it has an inclination!

n3xt:
I shoot.

K-024 by NextHome

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Unless where the client insists, step tiles are not meant for flat roofs.

Just my opinion though.......
On the exact point(s) where you may likely position your water tank ensure the floor is slightly higher than the main floor which corresponds to the level of the floor drain.



Now assuming you do insulation for such roofing system at what point do you do it to mitigate the inflow of hot air into the living areas of the build...........

gordonbarrett:
My thoughts exactly. There is a lot of generalization here. A roof can be flat but with a very good slope. May not compare to a high pitch roof in terms of flow but certainly won't turn to a pool. Na matter of choice. Just finished my "not so flat" roof

Smiles.

If you check well, I was using the term “hidden” and I also mentioned parapet wall which act as envelope around the hidden roof.

The design is not 100% flat roof but a “not so” flat roof.

n3xt:
When the client insists...

This is one of the things builders/engineers witness on site. If you don’t trust us, please kindly work with those you trust.

I’m a baba lati and I’m proud of my work.


Pic - Window open inwards. Burglar proof outside.

Abeg this is not NextHome work o

#clientchoice

It's fantastic as long as the hinges on the windows are hidden.