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Vinnie2000:
Yeah, There is a Difference..

The South East Igbos are the Traditional Igbos..D ones we know are Business-minded n scatter in Nigerian towns n cities..They come from Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi, Abia and Anambra..

But some are close to Benue(Idoma areas) and Cross River..Diz ones are still Igbos!!

But Ikas in Delta have a language n culture of their own, same as d Ndokwas,, dats y dey don't want to be cald 'Delta Igbo' or Igbo..

However, in d same Delta State, D Aniocha/Oshimili group sometimes identify demselves as Igbos because dier areas are closer to Onitsha, Anambra state n dier language is almost d same as d Main Igbo!!..(Funny enough, some don't e.g JayJay Okocha n Okonjo-Iweala)..

The area Where Nzeogwu who killed Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa, etc came from is Okpanam n is in Asaba axis..Pple then said an Igboman killed Hausa politicians..

So, you see dat it's Quite Confusing n Complicated!!

Am not from Rivers State, so cannot say much on Ikwerre..

This is so wrong and ignorance induced in many levels.
Ika and Ndokwa has no distinct language of theirs.
Their language is only a dialect of Igbolanguage.
Even in SE we have sub groups bigger than Ika, Ndokwa and each have their own unique dialect of Igbolanguage and certain Unique culture of their own too.

What makes Ndokwa and Ika non Igbo is not their language or culture, because they are both Igbo.
What makes them non Igbo is their mindset and their decision not to be Igbo post civil war.
Nothing more and nothing less.
Oshimili/Aniocha don't sometimes identity themselves as Igbo, they most times identify themselves with Igbo, and it's not just because they share boundaries with SE, afterall Ndokwa share boundaries with SE as well.
But because of the people mindset. They were not broken by the civil war, so retained their Igbo identity.

There is nothing like main Igbo. Infact the first place called Igbo by the whites was in today Delta State in Aboh Ndokwa.

Enuani is similar to Idemili/Onicha dialect

Ndokwa is similar to Oguta/Ogbaru dialect.

Ika is a like a hybrid of Owerri and Nsukka dialects

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
As a real niggarrr

Am gonna support igbo presidency anyday, anytime twice on election day

Na real niggar you be
I troway salute from Otokutu, Delta State

omenka:
His advice is for pdp and pdp urchins alone.

Clerk is a pdp member so his stupid advice applies only to his terrorist supporting party.

The next president will be a Yoruba man or woman from the South West under APC. If that pains your guts, join Kanus oarents wherever they are.

This riff-raff only comes out of his gutter-smelling hole anytime there is Igbo topic!

It's obvious your own kind of zombie have been programmed for Igbo matters. But nobody takes you serious or care if you exist at all!

Igboid:
Don't be silly bro.

Ika is not Igbo. Ikwerre is not Igbo too.
Ndoni is currently divided on their Igbo identity.

Okowa will contest when it's time for SS presidency. He would do so after he must have outcompeted Isoko, Urhobo, Ijaw,Ibibiod, Efik,Edo,etc candidates.
Same is applicable to Ikwerre.

We are speaking of SE presidency and since SE is dominantly atleast 99% IGBO is also same as Igbo presidency.
Which means that we Igbos in SE can choose to have a fellow Igbos from SS to represent us if we think there are better sellable candidates there.
Unfortunately, Ika and Ikwerre are not Igbos, so are not included.

You are stupid,clark is an old goat.
We Ikas can contest now,because GEJ still have fours for the south-south.So it is better GEJ contest again.
You guys need biafra,Nigeria is a zoo,you don't need the presidency.
Your people don't vote,so na who go vote una?
Rotation from North to south is okay,but micro-zoning to south-east is am opression to south-south people.
Look after Ibori,okowa is the 2nd man in delta state his is one of the most powerful governor in the entire south and PDP.
Kerosine sharing ikpeazu and sister ugwuanyi of both Abia and enugu state can not stand before Okowa in PDP,how much their state dey contribute?

Igboid:
This is so wrong and ignorance induced in many levels.
Ika and Ndokwa has no distinct language of theirs.
Their language is only a dialect of Igbolanguage.
Even in SE we have sub groups bigger than Ika, Ndokwa and each have their own unique dialect of Igbolanguage and certain Unique culture of their own too.

What makes Ndokwa and Ika non Igbo is not their language or culture, because they are both Igbo.
What makes them non Igbo is their mindset and their decision not to be Igbo post civil war.
Nothing more and nothing less.
Oshimili/Aniocha don't sometimes identity themselves as Igbo, they most times identify themselves with Igbo, and it's not just because they share boundaries with SE, afterall Ndokwa share boundaries with SE as well.
But because of the people mindset. They were not broken by the civil war, so retained their Igbo identity.

There is nothing like main Igbo. Infact the first place called Igbo by the whites was in today Delta State in Aboh Ndokwa.

Enuani is similar to Idemili/Onicha dialect

Ndokwa is similar to Oguta/Ogbaru dialect.

Ika is a like a hybrid of Owerri and Nsukka dialects

Wrong,before the civil war we Ikas were never Igbos,we only fought and supported them as brothers and neighbours.Even the benins and esans where majority of our ancestors came from,we don't claim them anymore.
We are Ikas.

Ojiofor:
They are same Igbo but it's purely poltics of geopolitical zone as south east remain the only zone in the south that are yet to produce president.

If it's purely geopolitical zone politics then there might be nothing wrong for an Igala person indegenous to Anambra state to fly the ticket on behalf of the SE.

Saltybear:
Shut up are you their spokes person. So what you think is right is automatically right ?

Talkative

Uncultured element

OpinionCounts:
I am not talking of strangers living in ikwerre land speaking ibo....I am talking about the pure ikwerre man and his language itself, it is not ibo and will not even be understood by any ibo person, the reverse is also the case, unlike the other ethnic groups I mentioned that speak total ibo language.
Ikwerre used to be said to be ibo before because then they were one big LGA together with the ibo speaking ethnic group Etche and Omuma, it was known as Ikwerre/Etche LGA, but after Etche and Omuma was separated, we now had ikwerre LGA, Etche LGA, and Omuma LGA, this took away the ibo speaking groups from ikwerre. What we have now as the present day ikwerre does not speak and can only barely understand ibo.

But I'm open to learning from you, if you can mention the ikwerre that speak ibo. Not strangers residing in ikwerre.

You can deny Igbo but the Ijaw will tell you that Ikwerre is Igbo, Ogoni will tell you that Ikwerre is sub set of Igbo...People that bear Amechi, Chibuike, Ngozi, Chinda, Ogechi etc...are basically igbo


It is like saying Crocodile and Aligator, they are in the same animal family, not only reptiles, it is like saying that Ijrbu people are not yoruba or that urhobo, okpe and Isoko are different, they might claim difference but we outsiders see them as the same...it is non igbo that will categorize ikwerre, because they are observing from objective view point


THE DIKE IN IKWERRE AND DIKE IN IGBO ARE SAME MEANING ...the only thing is that average ikwerre is laid back, cant compete and a bit backward...Igbo have even written them off anyway from what they said

Aderewah:
Lol. This is how they'll be discriminated in biafra. When you want their land and oil, they're 100% igbo. But now, theyre igbo speaking Delta people.

. Please go and sleep, oil will soon be out of the market, many igbo traders in Lagos, Aba and Onitcha has far more money than some who claims our oyel nonsense.

Aaa007:
bad news 4 ndigbo

No wonder you got F9 in English Comprehension in secondary school!

Sufferingboy:
You are stupid,clark is an old goat.
We Ikas can contest now,because GEJ still have fours for the south-south.So it is better GEJ contest again.
You guys need biafra,Nigeria is a zoo,you don't need the presidency.
Your people don't vote,so na who go vote una?
Rotation from North to south is okay,but micro-zoning to south-east is am opression to south-south people.
Look after Ibori,okowa is the 2nd man in delta state his is one of the most powerful governor in the entire south and PDP.
Kerosine sharing ikpeazu and sister ugwuanyi of both Abia and enugu state can not stand before Okowa in PDP,how much their state dey contribute?

Ika is like the 20th ethnic group in SS by population, so who told you that you are the next in line for SS presidency?

We need Biafra, but while we wait for it, we would also use Nigerian presidency to be passing time.

Only Enugu North LGA has more voting strength than the entire Ikaland combined

Okowa is just another Ibori stooge like Uduaghan. He is not a strong man.

Sufferingboy:
Wrong,before the civil war we Ikas were never Igbos,we only fought and supported them as brothers and neighbours.Even the benins and esans where majority of our ancestors came from,we don't claim them anymore.
We are Ikas.

Ikas never had problem with Igbo tag before the war.
Ika kings were among those who wrote to Bernard Burdillion in 1939 against adding of Western Igbo which Ika was part of to Western region and not Eastern region.

Sufferingboy:
Wrong,before the civil war we Ikas were never Igbos,we only fought and supported them as brothers and neighbours.Even the benins and esans where majority of our ancestors came from,we don't claim them anymore.
We are Ikas.

Hahaha..Lol..

Tell him oo..

Ikas are Ikas..N I really like your Pride and Boldness when you said it..

He made some points but really,, I have been to Abavo, Umunede, Igbodo, Agbor n Owa-Igbo and I know dat d Ikas have NEVER called demselves Igbo!!

Infact, Was told dat they share some Cultural Ties with Binis of Edo state..Dat There was a time When Oba Erediawwa or Akenzua of Benin helped save d life of a Young Dein of Agbor!!.

It is Mayb the Ikas/Ndokwas who stay in Lagos or Abuja Are d ones who claim to be Igbo..

or as I said in a previous comment,, those ones who because dey desire a Federal Job, Contract, University Admission, etc now Mischievously or Cowardly claim to an Igbo..

All d same, We shouldn't Argue too much..Who will be president will b president..

Let us as Youth Face our Business n Find Ways to better ourselves, Financially!!..

Kebbiprince:
Your right anyway, is improper in all sincerity

You gt the point.

AbijaJ:
The PDP should show some appreciation to the SE and give them the ticket. That's only fair.

Do u think PDP is ready to loose? What is the voting strength of SE? How many of them has voters cardsl? NK has brainwashed them to destroy d voters card.

Nigercity:
It's not Igbo presidency

It's south east presidency
They're seeking for

Anyway me personally
I don't have any problem with the South south Igbos contesting
I can accept Delta igbo excluding ika
And I also have no problem with Rivers Igbo except ikwerre

Anyway Edwin Clark is an Ijaw man
He should focus on his creeks
And stop doing attache by force
Which Ijaw people like doing
(Always trying to speak and claim Igbo, just like Asari, Hilda, good luck, timaya,preye and co faking Igbo)

I know you are laughing at yourself.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
As a real niggarrr

Am gonna support igbo presidency anyday, anytime twice on election day

You is the realest niggarrrrr

Aderewah:
Lol. This is how they'll be discriminated in biafra. When you want their land and oil, they're 100% igbo. But now, theyre igbo speaking Delta people.

You are so very dense.
What he is saying is that even though there are Igbos in the SS,GEJ has done the turn of the SS so now its d turn of the SE which is predominantly Igbo.
That your lord and master osama buhari from the NW has been president doesn't prevent Atiku another fulani from the NE from becoming president in the future

Igboid:
Ika is like the 20th ethnic group in SS by population, so who told you that you are the next in line for SS presidency?

We need Biafra, but while we wait for it, we would also use Nigerian presidency to be passing time.

Only Enugu North LGA has more voting strength than the entire Ikaland combined

Okowa is just another Ibori stooge like Uduaghan. He is not a strong man.

Keep quiet,which enugu north? I here in enugu state,aparthy is too high your people don't vote.But on election days we Ikas dey give pdp block votes.
Before,Okowa was an Ibori boy,but once he became governor he break out and now he have his own loyalist.He only respect ibori.
Check all his appointees and see the percentage of Ika people.
Even Emefiele that I usually criticise here for nothing giving ika people agricultural support i.e grants and loans.
Yet,through emeifiele many Ikas are now working in top CBN position.Emefiele is still better than Ayim Pius,who was senate president and later secretary to the federation,what did the sleeping man do for ebonyi?
Or is ekweremadu who want to die in senate?
In anioman politics currently,Ika people are dominating and controlling everything,forget about the capital in oshimili land(asaba).

Igboid:
Ika is like the 20th ethnic group in SS by population, so who told you that you are the next in line for SS presidency?

We need Biafra, but while we wait for it, we would also use Nigerian presidency to be passing time.

Only Enugu North LGA has more voting strength than the entire Ikaland combined

Okowa is just another Ibori stooge like Uduaghan. He is not a strong man.

In south-south we Ikas are small but mighty,we are not the 20th ethnic group by population,we should be the 5th,we are over 6million in number,including our brothers carved into edo.So of our people live aside Ika land and aside Nigeria.
Naija need to conduct another census.

Moferere:
Uncultured element

Talkative

Always talking af talking and talking

Very irritating in a man

emperor863:
You and your ilk can not read between the lines, hence your political backwardness.

Only God can stop Tinubu from becoming President in 2023. However, because of your political naivety, you fail to see this.

The southwest got the APC ticket as far back as 2019 if you care to know.

Till SE start real politicking, emotions don't win election, the issue is, do they have voters card?

faceland:
You have a point. When it come to victims of riot, ethnic discrimination, we are Igbos but when it comes to opportunities some selfish people might say we are "Igbo speaking Delta"... Anyway, I see the logic (and support) giving it to those from the southeast states. So that they can feel inclusive. Otherwise, they should be freed to start their own country (for fairness).

Nobody is saying you are not Igbos or can't contest,all he is saying is that this is the slot of the SE as the SS has been represented by GEJ.
In future when it is the turn of the SS,the SS Igbos can contest, political positions are zoned based on geopolitical zones not tribes

KingOKON:
.

I concur.
Every patriotic Nigerian should seek to pacify the Ibos just like they did Yoruba in 1999
Only selfish people like Tinubu will seek vain glory instead of a harmonious nation

You are a pathological liar. How did they pacify Yorubas in 1999? Did Ekwueme contest with OBJ at the primary or not? If the presidency was mean for Yorubas only in 1999, why did Ekwueme contest with him? Ekwueme contested primary in 1999, Yorubas will also contest primary in 2023. Do you get that?

Vinnie2000:
Hahaha..Lol..

Tell him oo..

Ikas are Ikas..N I really like your Pride and Boldness when you said it..

He made some points but really,, I have been to Abavo, Umunede, Igbodo, Agbor n Owa-Igbo and I know dat d Ikas have NEVER called demselves Igbo!!

Infact, Was told dat they share some Cultural Ties with Binis of Edo state..Dat There was a time When Oba Erediawwa or Akenzua of Benin helped save d life of a Young Dein of Agbor!!.

It is Mayb the Ikas/Ndokwas who stay in Lagos or Abuja Are d ones who claim to be Igbo..

or as I said in a previous comment,, those ones who because dey desire a Federal Job, Contract, University Admission, etc now Mischievously or Cowardly claim to an Igbo..

All d same, We shouldn't Argue too much..Who will be president will b president..

Let us as Youth Face our Business n Find Ways to better ourselves, Financially!!..

Yes,despite our blood relatioship with benin,Agbor clan always fought the benis in the past.
Even Owa clan(my clan and okowa clan) Owa-aliro(okowa town) and my town(owa-oyibu ) were warriors and sometimes our fought against benis and Ndokwa invaders.But we and ndokwa people have intermarried too much.
Ndokwa women runnig after Ika men.

CaptainAyub:
Nobody is saying you are not Igbos or can't contest,all he is saying is that this is the slot of the SE as the SS has been represented by GEJ.
In future when it is the turn of the SS,the SS Igbos can contest, political positions are zoned based on geopolitical zones not tribes

South-south still have four years.

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omenka:
His advice is for pdp and pdp urchins alone.

Clerk is a pdp member so his stupid advice applies only to his terrorist supporting party.

The next president will be a Yoruba man or woman from the South West under APC. If that pains your guts, join Kanus parents wherever they are.

Any time you hear Igbo, you crawl out of your hole and start convulsing.
Fulani is killing you and renaming your villages from one side while the zoo army is killing and burning your villages from the other end,but na Igbo be your problem.
When I see ppl like you,I thank God again for making me Igbo cos if to say na Igbo de waka all over Nigeria de do shoemaker and nail cutter, eediots like you won't have any problem with them.

Olatomiwami:
Do u think PDP is ready to loose? What is the voting strength of SE? How many of them has voters cardsl? NK has brainwashed them to destroy d voters card.

Thank you,politics is not by emotion.Politics of developer people(I nor mention name) is by emotion.Which south-east pdp governor can stand before okowa,wike,Udom in Pdp affair?
How much them dey contribute?
In apc,no southeast governor can withstand tinubu or osinbajo in apc affairs.
So now which party one give them ticket?
Those people dey confuse,other part of nigeria dey plan ahead why them dey emotional towards politics.

Anago55:
. You always allude too much importance to yourself. You are just as insignificant as a dust in the scheme of things. you are poor and a fraudster who have defrauded nairlanders of their identify and money on the premise of job provision. You should hide your face in shame

only Igbo matter arouses your manhood and leprous fingers while you look away in other national issues

anumanu dika gi

I never cease to be amazed by that guy.
Zoo army was killing Tiv ppl and burning their villages last week but you will never see him type one sentence.
But once he hears Igbo,na there you go see am

OpinionCounts:
I am not talking of strangers living in ikwerre land speaking ibo....I am talking about the pure ikwerre man and his language itself, it is not ibo and will not even be understood by any ibo person, the reverse is also the case, unlike the other ethnic groups I mentioned that speak total ibo language.
Ikwerre used to be said to be ibo before because then they were one big LGA together with the ibo speaking ethnic group Etche and Omuma, it was known as Ikwerre/Etche LGA, but after Etche and Omuma was separated, we now had ikwerre LGA, Etche LGA, and Omuma LGA, this took away the ibo speaking groups from ikwerre. What we have now as the present day ikwerre does not speak and can only barely understand ibo.

But I'm open to learning from you, if you can mention the ikwerre that speak ibo. Not strangers residing in ikwerre.

Brother,Elele ppl,which tribe do they belong to?
B4 you start your taqqiya, note that I lived there for 6 months.