₦airaland Forum

Sammy07:
Nah Tinubu Choose Alake also?
Nah him choose Olofa?
Nah him choose Osemawe?
Nah him choose Orangun of Ila?
Nah him choose Olubadan?

Leave politics to politicians

Tinubu was influential in picking Alake. That’s his friend.

Akarigbo and Emir of Iwo were handpicked by Tinubu.

Interestingly, the trio are the nuisance against the agitation.

Leave the other Obas alone.

BSdetector:
Chill guy.... I'd never support an Nnamdi kanu clone or the likes leading anything that has to do with yoruba....but, it's the failure of intellectuals to act in times of crisis that gives rise to the likes of Igboho and other....... it's like someone not providing solution or taking action but condemning those who act.

Goodluck.

Yorexit:
Tinubu was influential in picking Alake. That’s his friend.

Akarigbo and Emir of Iwo were handpicked by Tinubu.

Interestingly, the trio are the nuisance against the agitation.

Leave the other Obas alone.

Their opinion doesn't matter.
Why do you think Tinubu is also careful not to Offend the Yoruba populace?

He can be bleeped up anytime.
Anyways that's politics and I have no business with them cos all politicians are the same you can't antagonize one and be linent with others.

Impossible

MrMaestro:
This. I agree wholeheartedly with this. Educated morons is what I call them. The same educated people that essentially want an intellectual hand job to stroke their own egos. Nations aren't created simply by intellectual discussions. No country worth a damn was created without strife and conflict. Yorubas that want to avoid that need to come to this realization NOW. It is beyond naive, and it's usually the intellectuals that are dumb enough to believe this nonsense. I am an intellectual myself as well, but unlike others I realize the importance of soldiers that are aggressively patriotic to engage the every day Yoruba man and woman. People who only want a Banji Akintoye fail to realize he's been UNSUCCESSFUL for YEARS without Igboho. Yet Igboho comes on the scene and so many more people now talks about Akintoye. There's a reason for that. People like Igboho awaken the masses, Akintoye as an intellectual cannot. Period.

You hit the nail on the head.....when Prof Akintoye who is an intellectual was there nobody heard him out, some even said he's a PDP apologist...now Sunday Igboho is here and some people are saying he's not an intellectual same people who voted in buhari..... certified mugus

BSdetector:
Chill guy.... I'd never support an Nnamdi kanu clone or the likes leading anything that has to do with yoruba....but, it's the failure of intellectuals to act in times of crisis that gives rise to the likes of Igboho and other....... it's like someone not providing solution or taking action but condemning those who act.

The solution is and what we are saying it.

Because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean He's an enemy or a slave.

No, if someone disagree with me.
I try to let him reason.
Its not a Yoruba thing for one person reasoning.

Sammy07:
Their opinion doesn't matter.
Why do you think Tinubu is also careful not to Offend the Yoruba populace?

He can be bleeped up anytime.
Anyways that's politics and I have no business with them cos all politicians are the same you can't antagonize one and be linent with others.

Impossible

Well, he has already angered the Yoruba populace by staying silent while Yorubas were being raped, kidnapped and killed by Fulanis.

He angered Yoruba populace when Miyetti Allah called Fulani and Yoruba relationship as master/slave relationship with Yorubas being the slaves. The audacity of Fulani slaves in Oyo to call us slaves all because of one man’s greedy political ambition.

Tinubu and his boys shall face the wrath of Yoruba populace when the time is right for Fulani sins. The end is near for Fulanis. Most of them won’t live to tell their kids the story of what is going to happen to them.

Yorexit:
Well, he has already angered the Yoruba populace by staying silent while Yorubas were being raped, kidnapped and killed by Fulanis.

He angered Yoruba populace when Miyetti Allah called Fulani and Yoruba relationship as master/slave relationship with Yorubas being the slaves. The audacity of Fulani slaves in Oyo to call us slaves all because of one man’s greedy political ambition.

Tinubu and his boys shall face the wrath of Yoruba populace when the time is right for Fulani sins. The end is near for Fulanis. Most of them won’t live to tell their kids the story of what is going to happen to them.

Bros, that is you and the politicians problem.

I've never supported any politicians.
Except in a case of A Yoruba vs non Yoruba.

My own concern is How to make a Yoruba Land a better place.
And don't introduce politics to it.
You cursing one politician and not the rest, you're introducing politics.

TrueNigerian300:
Oga, what are you saying The politicians that are selling you to fulanis do they consult or dialogue with you. How many of your senators or governors have taken any real action concerning what is going on in yorubaland Can a yoruba man try what the fulani criminals are doing in the north Do you want to be slave to anyone forever? Tinubu doesn't care if you or any member of your family is next victim of fulani atrocity yet he wants your vote because he is yoruba.

Majority of nigerians foolishly submit their freedom or destiny to very few people and will never question their action or inactions - but they will hope things will change. Now your parents have told you Nigeria will be better, their parents told them same thing - you are about to tell your children same thing who is fooling who?? Look at happenings in the north, look at Pantanmi and Gumi are those the kind of people you want your children to share the country with? Are you not seeing all the injustice around you in your so called useless Nigeria.

Do I agree with everything he is doing or stand for, ofcourse not and for the fact that he is or once a political thug, that do not make me his fan. But I base my judgement on message and not the messenger. I could relate with his message to a very large extent. Now tell us what your problem is with his message instead of looking at his personality.

I am yet to see any constructive criticism of his message except some fools that don't know what a good country should look like. Is this a country to you The future of the country has been stolen yet you see nothing wrong with that but everything wrong with a man that started what the useless supposed learned are supposed to start.

There we go again. Please, understand the dynamic nature of the Yoruba people. We are not stupid people. We don't all sleep and face the same direction. We analyse issues from a constructive point of view and not a destructive one.

First, you mentioned politicians. They are constitutionally elected people who represent us. If they have failed like most Nigerians politicians, when their tenure ends, they come to us again. How you are able to compare constituted authority to someone who probably only has a blind followership among his people in Ibadan beats me. How on earth did you come up with that comparison?

I don't know how hard it is to consult, dialogue, meet with the people who matter, reach a consensus and strike. Are we barbarians here that one man would begin to boss over us all without a clear vision of what holds for us tomorrow?

If I ask Igboho what he thinks of Oduduwa Republic in the next 10 years if actualized, he'll probably say we wouldn't have Fulani on our lands anymore which the record, in fact, show to be wrong. Fulani are terrorising every West Africa country as I chat. Oduduwa Republic wouldn't be an exception. Let's assume for a minute that Fulani disappears completely from the surface of the planet after Oduduwa's actualization, what next again?

I have not seen anywhere where a sound argument is made for Oduduwa. It's always the cry of Fulani and Hausa ruling us. Meanwhile, we have our own leaders at state and local level completely useless and doing the worst.Yorubas are educated people. You cannot just wake up one morning and call yourself a freedom fighter without a concise vision of the promise land.

The SW is blessed with human resources from all part of Nigeria. That's why Lagos, neighbouring Ogun and some parts of Ibadan thrives so well. Take Nigeria away from SW and you'll be left with a ruins of it. We'll probably be worse that Benin Republic and if it gets better, probably not in our lifetime.

We're far better with restructuring than a secession. But even if secession would come, Igboho's method would definitely not bring it.

How would Yoruba nation be different from Nigeria where lawlessness and dictatorship thrives if we're laying the precedence with Igboho's dictatorial attitude. I'll rather remain in Nigeria.

WisdomFlakes:
So are you suggesting that touts and rabble-rousers should be the drivers of the agitation for an independent Yoruba nation? Why can't every section of yoruba society be equal stakeholders in this? Una never ready. I am tired of talking abeg. Maybe you guys should go and clone Nnamdi Kanu and then copy and paste his template. I'm done here.

The people that matter most in this movement are the average common man in Yorubaland.

The movement is gaining ground in the grassroots, let me tell you a secrets if they suceeds in gaining ground in all south west state, Yoruba liberals(intellectuals) opinion won't matter anymore because they won't be able to effect anything.

WisdomFlakes:
You guys still don't get it. Any and every yoruba man is entitled not to even want to be part of Oduduwa Republic without getting threatened or intimidated by its proponents. That is the point some of you don't get. You are turning this into a 'us vs. them' thing, even amongst Yorubas, when in fact ALL yorubas are supposed to be treated as equal stakeholders in the agitation. And this will end up working against the whole agitation until you all accept that you don't have a monopoly of knowledge.

There are Yorubas in Benin Republic and Togo, and they are ok with where they are, even though some Yorubas here may feel they will be better off in one single country with other yorubas. But in the real world, we all can never think alike, that's the essence of freedom, democracy and independent thought.

The politicians you are vilifying for being bad, corrupt, and whatnot, they also once spoke like you are doing right now, condemning others before getting to the position themselves. And whether you believe it or not, in Oduduwa Republic there will still be corrupt politicians, there would also be opposition parties that will oppose the ruling party in power because it is human nature to disagree on positions and in principle, and no one deserves to be blackmailed for that.

Some clans may even later feel marginalized and decide they would be better off on their own, even after getting Oduduwa Republic. Yes, it can happen. Why? Again, because it is human nature. That desire for separation is what led to the creation of several states in every region in Nigeria today.

Or what if the Yorubas in Lagos decide to opt out of the Republic? Or if in a referendum some yoruba clans (or Muslims) decide not to be a part of the new country? Or you think that's farfetched? That can certainly happen if the hardline promoters continue acting like they alone know what's best for everyone else without taking other opinions into consideration.

Bottomline is, some of you guys should quit thinking your position is the only valid one. You can't force all Yorubas to think the same way through blackmail and threats, no matter how valid you may feel your position is. Kole ever work.

What is your position on this. Are you for Oduduwa nation or you are against it?

ShadowCracker:
The people that matter most in this movement are the average common man in Yorubaland.

The movement is gaining ground in the grassroots, let me tell you a secrets if they suceeds in gaining ground in all south west state, Yoruba liberals(intellectuals) opinion won't matter anymore because they won't be able to effect anything.

And that's my point as well. The Yoruba intellectuals never did anything. Never made a change for the better in this country. Yet they can act as if they're the sole arbiters of the direction of Yorubaland. More often than not they are the ones who refuse to speak on the killing of Yoruba farmers because it'll be "politically inconvenient", or it "may come off as xenophobic". Left to the yoruba intellectual, the Yoruba empire would not exist. They use "discussion" as an excuse to sit on their ass and not do anything. Let's be clear, warriors create empires. Not intellectuals. Warriors can be intellectuals. But not all intellectuals are warriors. And in Yorubaland, most intellectuals are not.

ThreeBlackBird:
There we go again. Please, understand the dynamic nature of the Yoruba people. We are not stupid people. We don't all sleep and face the same direction. We analyse issues from a constructive point of view and not a destructive one.

First, you mentioned politicians. They are constitutionally elected people who represent us. If they have failed like most Nigerians politicians, when their tenure ends, they come to us again. How you are able to compare constituted authority to someone who probably only has a blind followership among his people in Ibadan beats me. How on earth did you come up with that comparison?

I don't know how hard it is to consult, dialogue, meet with the people who matter, reach a consensus and strike. Are we barbarians here that one man would begin to boss over us all without a clear vision of what holds for us tomorrow?

If I ask Igboho what he thinks of Oduduwa Republic in the next 10 years if actualized, he'll probably say we wouldn't have Fulani on our lands anymore which the record, in fact, show to be wrong. Fulani are terrorising every West Africa country as I chat. Oduduwa Republic wouldn't be an exception. Let's assume for a minute that Fulani disappears completely from the surface of the planet after Oduduwa's actualization, what next again?

I have not seen anywhere where a sound argument is made for Oduduwa. It's always the cry of Fulani and Hausa ruling us. Meanwhile, we have our own leaders at state and local level completely useless and doing the worst.Yorubas are educated people. You cannot just wake up one morning and call yourself a freedom fighter without a concise vision of the promise land.

The SW is blessed with human resources from all part of Nigeria. That's why Lagos, neighbouring Ogun and some parts of Ibadan thrives so well. Take Nigeria away from SW and you'll be left with a ruins of it. We'll probably be worse that Benin Republic and if it gets better, probably not in our lifetime.

We're far better with restructuring than a secession. But even if secession would come, Igboho's method would definitely not bring it.

How would Yoruba nation be different from Nigeria where lawlessness and dictatorship thrives if we're laying the precedence with Igboho's dictatorial attitude. I'll rather remain in Nigeria.

If at all you’re Yoruba, you sound uneducated and like someone who’s unquestionably dumb due to Nigeria. Getting Yorubas out of Nigeria alone would fix 50% of the problems. Money earned from Lagos alone from multinationals and seaports can sustain a Yoruba country easily. Also, these Nigerian political class won’t thrive in a Yoruba country.

If you want to know how a Yoruba nation would be different from Nigeria; compare Singapore and Malaysia.

Igboho is just a foot soldier.

WisdomFlakes:
You guys still don't get it. Any and every yoruba man is entitled not to even want to be part of Oduduwa Republic without getting threatened or intimidated by its proponents. That is the point some of you don't get. You are turning this into a 'us vs. them' thing, even amongst Yorubas, when in fact ALL yorubas are supposed to be treated as equal stakeholders in the agitation. And this will end up working against the whole agitation until you all accept that you don't have a monopoly of knowledge.

There are Yorubas in Benin Republic and Togo, and they are ok with where they are, even though some Yorubas here may feel they will be better off in one single country with other yorubas. But in the real world, we all can never think alike, that's the essence of freedom, democracy and independent thought.

The politicians you are vilifying for being bad, corrupt, and whatnot, they also once spoke like you are doing right now, condemning others before getting to the position themselves. And whether you believe it or not, in Oduduwa Republic there will still be corrupt politicians, there would also be opposition parties that will oppose the ruling party in power because it is human nature to disagree on positions and in principle, and no one deserves to be blackmailed for that.

Some clans may even later feel marginalized and decide they would be better off on their own, even after getting Oduduwa Republic. Yes, it can happen. Why? Again, because it is human nature. That desire for separation is what led to the creation of several states in every region in Nigeria today.

Or what if the Yorubas in Lagos decide to opt out of the Republic? Or if in a referendum some yoruba clans (or Muslims) decide not to be a part of the new country? Or you think that's farfetched? That can certainly happen if the hardline promoters continue acting like they alone know what's best for everyone else without taking other opinions into consideration.

Bottomline is, some of you guys should quit thinking your position is the only valid one. You can't force all Yorubas to think the same way through blackmail and threats, no matter how valid you may feel your position is. Kole ever work.

I don't know what you are talking about up there I have not seen them intimidating or forcing anybody to accept yoruba nation. If they are doing it by force they won't be creating awareness so where you see the use of force is what I am struggling with. Either we like to accept it or not yoruba people are tired of this useless country - well I don't know about your family but my circle of friends majority are in support. There is already a silence consensus of leaving Nigeria by many yoruba sons and daughters even if they are not speaking out. Just as an example for you how many yoruba condemned him for what he did in Igangan Majority back his action even if they have some reservation for how he did it even Wole that is known not to be tribalistic supported him with his utterances and fear that yoruba people might become slave on their own territory.

He knows there is no space of leadership for him or whatsoever because of his education and he has made that known that he is never interested in becoming a leader - he only wants to see a progressive yoruba nation.
They know once majority of yoruba are in support then it is a done deal and it is the reason why they are creating awareness here and there but the only thing you could see in all their effort is intimidation and force. How many of them have come to the front of your house and say you must accept yoruba nation by force.If they do not want to carry people along they won't do campaign.

Oga stop spreading rumors that they are intimidating or forcing people.

TrueNigerian300:
I don't know what you are talking about up there I have not seen them intimidating or forcing anybody to accept yoruba nation. If they are doing it by force they won't be creating awareness so where you see the use of force is what I am struggling with. Either we like to accept it or not yoruba people are tired of this useless country - well I don't know about your family but my circle of friends majority are in support. There is already a silence consensus of leaving Nigeria by many yoruba sons and daughters even if they are not speaking out. Just as an example for you how many yoruba condemned him for what he did in Igangan Majority back his action even if they have some reservation for how he did it even Wole that is known not to be tribalistic supported him with his utterances and fear that yoruba people might become slave on their own territory.

He knows there is no space of leadership for him or whatsoever because of his education and he has made that known that he is never interested in becoming a leader - he only wants to see a progressive yoruba nation.
They know once majority of yoruba are in support then it is a done deal and it is the reason why they are creating awareness here and there but the only thing you could see in all their effort is intimidation and force. How many of them have come to front of your house and say you must accept yoruba nation by force.If they do not want to carry people along they won't do campaign.

Oga stop spreading rumors that they are intimidating or forcing people.

He knows that no one is actually forcing anyone to support Yorubaland. He's just angry that Igboho's method is awakening the youth and he's proving to be successful in his endeavors. He's a one Nigerianist, so doesn't want him to be. It's a straw man argument.

Sammy07:
Bros, that is you and the politicians problem.

I've never supported any politicians.
Except in a case of A Yoruba vs non Yoruba.

My own concern is How to make a Yoruba Land a better place.
And don't introduce politics to it.
You cursing one politician and not the rest, you're introducing politics.

I don’t care about politicians. Yoruba political class and their thugs are birds of a feather. The only reason I singled Tinubu out on this thread is because of his greed due to wanting to be Nigerian president in lieu of Yoruba interests.

Your ambition should never be bigger than the welfare of your people. Tinubu and his Fulani masters will feel the wrath soon.

MrMaestro:
And that's my point as well. The Yoruba intellectuals never did anything. Never made a change for the better in this country. Yet they can act as if they're the sole arbiters of the direction of Yorubaland. More often than not they are the ones who refuse to speak on the killing of Yoruba farmers because it'll be "politically inconvenient", or it "may come off as xenophobic". Left to the yoruba intellectual, the Yoruba empire would not exist. They use "discussion" as an excuse to sit on their ass and not do anything. Let's be clear, warriors create empires. Not intellectuals. Warriors can be intellectuals. But not all intellectuals are warriors. And in Yorubaland, most intellectuals are not.

I laugh when I see all these Yoruba liberals speak big grammar, the angry common man on the street no hear big grammar.
If they can win-over the common man, Yoruba liberals go speak grammar tire they won't be able to stop Yoruba nation from being actualized.

ShadowCracker:
I laugh when I see all these Yoruba liberals speak big grammar, the angry common man on the street no hear big grammar.
If they can win-over the common man, Yoruba liberals go speak grammar tire they won't be able to stop Yoruba nation from being actualized.

And that is why it's inevitable. They see they're losing and outnumbered, and it's good. Because many Yoruba intellectuals have lost that Yoruba patriotic spirit unfortunately. Ask them why Nigeria is better for us than Oduduwa, and they can't seem to come up with an answer. They'll be telling you that being in a country where most of the National Assembly is comprised of the north, will lead to a greater prosperity for Yorubas. They want to leave our fate to a people who believe in cattle rearing across lands in THE 21ST CENTURY. As if modern farming methods haven't been discovered CENTURIES AGO. These are the people they want to leave the fate of the Yoruba race to. Don't let me start, these yoruba intellectuals are some of the dumbest I swear.

ShadowCracker:
The people that matter most in this movement are the average common man in Yorubaland.

The movement is gaining ground in the grassroots, let me tell you a secrets if they suceeds in gaining ground in all south west state, Yoruba liberals(intellectuals) opinion won't matter anymore because they won't be able to effect anything.

Thank you!!! You understand their strategy the common man is the one suffering not the elites or idiolectuals. And one guy was vomiting rubbish up there that they are intimidating or forcing people. What is more democratic than what they are doing?? I think some fools against them are working for their masters 2023 election and doing their best to rubbish their effort.

Sammy07:
Huh

Highest currently is at 20% (I still dash it bro)

If the rate is at 50% it would be the talk of each towns or 1/3 of every discussions.

Biafra is at it 70%

You seems not to be behind. You are not in tune with happening around you otherwise you will know the acceptance rate is over 50%. If referendum is carried out today, many of you sitting on fence would be shocked

Ttalk:
You seems not to be behind. You are not in tune with happening around you otherwise you will know the acceptance rate is over 50%. If referendum is carried out today, many of you sitting on fence would be shocked

Bros I can bet that all the rallies on oduduwa or Yoruba

None reach 100k

The awareness is still at.10%
We can do better.

You can show me any video that members in the rally reach 100k

Sammy07:
Bros I can bet that all the rallies on oduduwa or Yoruba

None reach 100k

The awareness is still at.10%
We can do better.

You can show me any video that members in the rally reach 100k

That's not an accurate measurement method at all. Many people agree and haven't been to a single protest.

MrMaestro:
That's not an accurate measurement method at all. Many people agree and haven't been to a single protest.

Then more awareness needs to be made.

No point of agreeing and staying back

ThreeBlackBird:
There we go again. Please, understand the dynamic nature of the Yoruba people. We are not stupid people. We don't all sleep and face the same direction. We analyse issues from a constructive point of view and not a destructive one.

First, you mentioned politicians. They are constitutionally elected people who represent us. If they have failed like most Nigerians politicians, when their tenure ends, they come to us again. How you are able to compare constituted authority to someone who probably only has a blind followership among his people in Ibadan beats me. How on earth did you come up with that comparison?

I don't know how hard it is to consult, dialogue, meet with the people who matter, reach a consensus and strike. Are we barbarians here that one man would begin to boss over us all without a clear vision of what holds for us tomorrow?

If I ask Igboho what he thinks of Oduduwa Republic in the next 10 years if actualized, he'll probably say we wouldn't have Fulani on our lands anymore which the record, in fact, show to be wrong. Fulani are terrorising every West Africa country as I chat. Oduduwa Republic wouldn't be an exception. Let's assume for a minute that Fulani disappears completely from the surface of the planet after Oduduwa's actualization, what next again?

I have not seen anywhere where a sound argument is made for Oduduwa. It's always the cry of Fulani and Hausa ruling us. Meanwhile, we have our own leaders at state and local level completely useless and doing the worst.Yorubas are educated people. You cannot just wake up one morning and call yourself a freedom fighter without a concise vision of the promise land.

The SW is blessed with human resources from all part of Nigeria. That's why Lagos, neighbouring Ogun and some parts of Ibadan thrives so well. Take Nigeria away from SW and you'll be left with a ruins of it. We'll probably be worse that Benin Republic and if it gets better, probably not in our lifetime.

We're far better with restructuring than a secession. But even if secession would come, Igboho's method would definitely not bring it.

How would Yoruba nation be different from Nigeria where lawlessness and dictatorship thrives if we're laying the precedence with Igboho's dictatorial attitude. I'll rather remain in Nigeria.

..Fulani are terrorising every West Africa country as I chat. Oduduwa Republic wouldn't be an exception....

I wanted to reply you but after reading the quoted part of your post, I had to change my mind because it would have been a waste of my time and energy.

So because others failed you must fail as well? Please take a look at the bolded statement again and see if it makes sense to you. Is there any logic in that statement just be sincere with yourself and take away your emotion for a second

We don't have to see things same way and I will always respect your opinion but I can only engage you if it is logical.

MrMaestro:
This. I agree wholeheartedly with this. Educated morons is what I call them. The same educated people that essentially want an intellectual hand job to stroke their own egos. Nations aren't created simply by intellectual discussions. No country worth a damn was created without strife and conflict. Yorubas that want to avoid that need to come to this realization NOW. It is beyond naive, and it's usually the intellectuals that are dumb enough to believe this nonsense. I am an intellectual myself as well, but unlike others I realize the importance of soldiers that are aggressively patriotic to engage the every day Yoruba man and woman. People who only want a Banji Akintoye fail to realize he's been UNSUCCESSFUL for YEARS without Igboho. Yet Igboho comes on the scene and so many more people now talks about Akintoye. There's a reason for that. People like Igboho awaken the masses, Akintoye as an intellectual cannot. Period.

Should we even begin to talk about intellectualism and elitism at the stage when record shows that it has led us to where we are today.

Where were the intellectuals when 1999 constitution was handed down to favour one section of the country?

Where were the intellectuals when the most populated regions were given fewer local government while bushes and shanties were elevated to local government.?

Where were the intellectuals when our ports were handed over to northerners but southerners has never become a minister in FCT?.

Before you say these are the creation of military, let me remind you that there is no different between them and the likes of Igboho, they were just only fortunate to exploit the era of military in Africa to perpetrate their ethnic agenda.

As it is, our elites and intellectual are too selfish to bother about the generality of Yoruba race. That is why 60 years of independence has left us where we found ourselves today

TrueNigerian300:
..Fulani are terrorising every West Africa country as I chat. Oduduwa Republic wouldn't be an exception....

I wanted to reply you but after reading the quoted part of your post, I had to change my mind because it would have been a waste of my time and energy.

So because others failed you must fail as well? Please take a look at the bolded statement again and see if it makes sense to you. Is there any logic in that statement just be sincere with yourself and take away your emotion for a second

We don't have to see things same way and I will always respect your opinion but I can only engage you if it is logical.

Speaking about logic, one would have expected you will make an inference from that information , but apparently, it's just emotion from you and nothing more. I really don't have the energy to go back and forth as well.