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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:47pm On Apr 30, 2021
BlueRayDick:
I used to think the problem we have at arsenal is majorly personnel/player related, however yesterday's match made it more clearer that managerial problem is also a major reason for the uninspiring season we've endured thus far.

I mean if the coach had innocently started a player like Chambers in RB based let's say the good showing he had in training, I expected him to have taken actions to have corrected such innocent mistake immediately he saw the disaster class he was serving. Chambers practically grounded our right hand, belabored Saka with so much defensive duties and rarely controlled the ball when he's passed to. I expected him to have been subbed off for Cedric latest by half time, but I was alarmed seeing him continue the match after the break.

having static and rigid players like Chambers and Xhaka playing at RB and LB respectively hampered severely on our attacking play so so much. Chambers was not interested in making those dashing runs behind an opposition player on the offensive, he will rather spam a stupid cross from a spot he's rooted as if he's been instructed not to move an inch by trigger happy Nigerian policeman angry. Xhaka on the other hand just keeps confirming he's a terrible player when it comes to defensive duties; his clumsiness in dishing out tackles was one of the reasons we conceded the first goal yesterday. He also almost gave out a goal while he was playing his usual across-the-field blind passes he normally does during the time of Mr Good Ebening at the emirates. I don't know maybe its cos Good ebening is sitted in the stadium and baba wan use the useless pass reminisce grin

Well, a more no-nonsense coach wouldve taken off Ceballos off seeing how he will losing the ball carelessly in the middle and committing fouls like its nobody's business. But then we are stuck with Arteta and we only to hope he can be more firm and take off non-performing players when need be before things go bad like it did yesterday.

As for the second league, I'm not keeping my hopes but seeing how good ebening and his boys gave us free away goal , let's just hope Arteta will get his tactics right and take a pound of flesh.

Lastly, I sincerely hope that spotify guy can convince the current owners to sell and let us have our own sugar daddy like other traditional top 6 teams. Its been long overdue ; make somebody sef use money spoil us buy all the players we dey dream of....lets be able to spend the budget of Lesotho and Trinidad & Tobago on new signing grin
You try but leave Chambers and Xhaka out of this. They did not choose themselves to play the positions they played. As for Ceballos, he better starting looking for another club for loan because even his club won't want him back.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 1:50pm On Apr 30, 2021
Lana1:
Swissh fit swear for you for dragging his beloved Ceballos like this grin
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 1:52pm On Apr 30, 2021
Spy360:

You are extreme bros. The second was on Partey.
Well..I was actually referring to the build up sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:04pm On Apr 30, 2021
Spy360:

You try but leave Chambers and Xhaka out of this. They did not choose themselves to play the positions they played. As for Ceballos, he better starting looking for another club for loan because even his club won't want him back.
I don't see how he's blaming xhaka and chambers there. Those two are poor in their present position they're playing and that's one of the reasons why I'm blaming Arteta. I mean, how will you have Cedric yet you play slow man xhaka at left back?(who can't even attack sef). What attacking advantage is Chambers giving you at that Rb role? What is the reason for playing a false 9 when none of the attackers(or midfielders ystdy) aren't great goalscorers. Like his decision in games for the past 2 months or so is really head-scratching and such decisions is really making me doubtful about his long term success here.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 2:19pm On Apr 30, 2021
Spy360:

You try but leave Chambers and Xhaka out of this. They did not choose themselves to play the positions they played. As for Ceballos, he better starting looking for another club for loan because even his club won't want him back.

Arteta can be blamed for choosing the players he thought would perform but the players can't be blamed for not performing? Are u serious at all ?

Is it Arteta that will teach Chambers how to control the ball and not lose it or did he tell chambers not to make a run at the opponents defenders with we are on the offensive like a decent RB is meant to do ? Well , for years I’ve never rated Chambers for anything either at RB ,CB , DM or any other role some people claim he’s good at, so I’m not surprised he remains piss poor.

Abeg make better person buy the club make we ship those fraudulent players off our books
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:36pm On Apr 30, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Arteta can be blamed for choosing the players he thought would perform but the players can't be blamed for not performing? Are u serious at all ?

Is it Arteta that will teach Chambers how to control the ball and not lose it or did he tell chambers not to make a run at the opponents defenders with we are on the offensive like a decent RB is meant to do ? Well , for years I’ve never rated Chambers for anything either at RB ,CB , DM or any other role some people claim he’s good at, so I’m not surprised he remains piss poor.

Abeg make better person buy the club make we ship those fraudulent players off our books
Lol... I see Chambers as just an average CB or perhaps DM. I never ever saw him as a Rb nor does he show any slight attribute of a Rb sef. What Arsene and Arteta saw or are seeing in Chambers that made them think he's a right back, that's what I'm still hoping to see...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SyIvalord: 2:42pm On Apr 30, 2021
Jodera:
Na next week your reply dey come cheesy cheesy
E be like say you never learn your lesson. No worry, Mr good ebening go teach you some more next week grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SyIvalord: 2:44pm On Apr 30, 2021
Jodera:
grin grin
2nd leg comeback dey na grin
I pray make una qualify sef, make we sama una for final. cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:46pm On Apr 30, 2021
SyIvalord:
E be like say you never learn your lesson. No worry, Mr good ebening go teach you some more next week grin
Come, which wan you want sef?
You want me ebening for final abi na us you want meet make the trolling sweet? grin

Cos if we meet una for final and beat una, omo the kain trolling for that thread go reach next year world cup grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SyIvalord: 2:53pm On Apr 30, 2021
Jodera:
Come, which wan you want sef?
You want me ebening for final abi na us you want meet make the trolling sweet? grin

Cos if we meet una for final and beat una, omo the kain trolling for that thread go reach next year world cup grin grin
Honestly, I just wan win the trophy no matter who we face for final. If we lose for final, then na to disappear from Nairaland until next season because those Olephobes no go let person rest for that thread.grin

But all EPL final go make sense sha cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:57pm On Apr 30, 2021
SyIvalord:
Honestly, I just wan win the trophy no matter who we face for final. If we lose for final, then na to disappear from Nairaland until next season because those Olephobes no go let person rest for that thread.grin

But all EPL final go make sense sha grin
grin grin

I swear, I just dey imagine how that thread go dey reach next year if una no win. People wey don sharpen daggers and sword just dey wait Loaded machine guns too grin


Anyways me I want all English final oo. Anybody wey win, the trolling go too sweet grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 4:32pm On Apr 30, 2021
Spy360:

He brought in Auba but it was too late. A single chance wasn't enough for the striker.

I agree with your first sentence but for a striker of Auba’s quality and stature, that chance was too easy to miss..

I mean, he could not even get it past the goalie... If he got it past the goalie and it went wide then I can give him a little pass. Talking about that miss, wasn’t that pass to Auba from Partey?

For a team that can’t create anything, a golden chance like that should be put away.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by timay(m): 5:55pm On Apr 30, 2021
Jodera:
I don't see how he's blaming xhaka and chambers there. Those two are poor in their present position they're playing and that's one of the reasons why I'm blaming Arteta. I mean, how will you have Cedric yet you play slow man xhaka at left back?(who can't even attack sef). What attacking advantage is Chambers giving you at that Rb role? What is the reason for playing a false 9 when none of the attackers(or midfielders ystdy) aren't great goalscorers. Like his decision in games for the past 2 months or so is really head-scratching and such decisions is really making me doubtful about his long term success here.

Arteta behaving like low budget Pep. The guy just played a false now just for the sake of it and so as to appear tactical. The last time, I checked people who play false 9 positions are always goal scoring players . You can't just put anybody there just for the sake of it.

It's just like throwing Daniel James into a false 9 position when he has low IQ scoring ability. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:26pm On Apr 30, 2021
timay:


Arteta behaving like low budget Pep. The guy just played a false now just for the sake of it and so as to appear tactical. The last time, I checked people who play false 9 positions are always goal scoring players . You can't just put anybody there just for the sake of it.

It's just like throwing Daniel James into a false 9 position when he has low IQ scoring ability. grin
Thank you for the bolded. I'm not sure all our midfielders goals put together will reach 10+ goals, yet he's playing false 9. Like who does that?
Just dey copy copy pep without looking at his team... Chai!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 10:40pm On Apr 30, 2021
Jodera:
Arsenal under Arteta is, the more you look, the less you see cheesy

Against Tottenham.... We bossed them 11 vs 11. Once lamela got red card. They started bossing us

Against Leeds(1st leg)... Leeds wanted to finish us 11 vs 11, but once Pepe got red card. Their pressure reduced drastically.

Now alternate same situation against Villarreal. grin

Honestly ehn... I don't just understand

Very confusing.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 2:21am On May 01, 2021
Let it be known, my candidate has always been Benitez...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:16pm On May 01, 2021
Man city heavily rotated squad, yet see the depth. Mehn, pep is going all out for the champions league oo
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 12:21pm On May 01, 2021
iPopAlomo:
Let it be known, my candidate has always been Benitez...

Elegbon Agba ..home is always home..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 12:21pm On May 01, 2021
Jodera:
Man city heavily rotated squad, yet see the depth. Mehn, pep is going all out for the champions league oo

The man no wan hear kain story for that UCL angry angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:05pm On May 01, 2021
Roland17:


I agree with your first sentence but for a striker of Auba’s quality and stature, that chance was too easy to miss..

I mean, he could not even get it past the goalie... If he got it past the goalie and it went wide then I can give him a little pass. Talking about that miss, wasn’t that pass to Auba from Partey?

For a team that can’t create anything, a golden chance like that should be put away.
Exactly what I was saying. Auba got a golden chance and couldn't convert. He probably needs multiple golden chances
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:18pm On May 01, 2021
Roland17:


The man no wan hear kain story for that UCL angry angry
Lol... I swear

Aside Ederson, Rodri was the only 1st team player there
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 2:33pm On May 01, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... I swear

Aside Ederson, Rodri was the only 1st team player there

Nwanne, I mean am, if Arteta flunks this Villarreal tie, I strongly believe he should be fired. I am tired of mediocrity.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 3:22pm On May 01, 2021
Roland17:


Elegbon Agba ..home is always home..


Arteta just dey frustrate me... Why isn't he play Martinelli...?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:30pm On May 01, 2021
Roland17:


Nwanne, I mean am, if Arteta flunks this Villarreal tie, I strongly believe he should be fired. I am tired of mediocrity.
Same here boss.
I know I'm a firm supporter of his before, but he hasn't covered himself in glory and most of his decisions are just wrong.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:05pm On May 01, 2021
Jodera:
I don't see how he's blaming xhaka and chambers there. Those two are poor in their present position they're playing and that's one of the reasons why I'm blaming Arteta. I mean, how will you have Cedric yet you play slow man xhaka at left back?(who can't even attack sef). What attacking advantage is Chambers giving you at that Rb role? What is the reason for playing a false 9 when none of the attackers(or midfielders ystdy) aren't great goalscorers. Like his decision in games for the past 2 months or so is really head-scratching and such decisions is really making me doubtful about his long term success here.
Every coach have their methods. The choice of Xhaka and Chambers at left and right back respectively is because of their positional flexibilities. With them Arteta can easily switch to a back 3 or a back 4 without making substitutions. We must understand his thinking which is not bad. Whether is works or not is a different matter.

A good thing is that with Ceballos now unavailable, and with Tierney and Aubameyang back, he will be forced to play his normal formations.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:12pm On May 01, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Arteta can be blamed for choosing the players he thought would perform but the players can't be blamed for not performing? Are u serious at all ?

Is it Arteta that will teach Chambers how to control the ball and not lose it or did he tell chambers not to make a run at the opponents defenders with we are on the offensive like a decent RB is meant to do ? Well , for years I’ve never rated Chambers for anything either at RB ,CB , DM or any other role some people claim he’s good at, so I’m not surprised he remains piss poor.

Abeg make better person buy the club make we ship those fraudulent players off our books
Chambers have been quite effective playing the dual roles of RB and RCB, depending on the tweaks on-field. You do not understand the game that's why you are complaining. A player who has to be tactically flexible within the same match cannot be blamed for given such homingus role when he doesn't perform on those rare occasions.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:13pm On May 01, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... I see Chambers as just an average CB or perhaps DM. I never ever saw him as a Rb nor does he show any slight attribute of a Rb sef. What Arsene and Arteta saw or are seeing in Chambers that made them think he's a right back, that's what I'm still hoping to see...
He is tactically flexible and thats what gives him the edge. I can't blame you for not seeing it. You are not a coach, are you?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:17pm On May 01, 2021
Roland17:


Nwanne, I mean am, if Arteta flunks this Villarreal tie, I strongly believe he should be fired. I am tired of mediocrity.
Or just resign peacefully. If he has enough sense.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 9:29pm On May 01, 2021
iPopAlomo:



Arteta just dey frustrate me... Why isn't he play Martinelli...?

My broda, this is one I can never understand. How Martinelli is not getting playing time in important games is beyond me especially when Laca/ Auba were out.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 1:17am On May 02, 2021
Spy360:

Or just resign peacefully. If he has enough sense.

We desperately need to get back to being competitive. If we lose the Villarreal tie, finish 9/10 in the EPL our irrelevance in European football will even worsen. We are watching Arsenal decline and virtually become irrelevant before our eyes. There has to be a radical sense of desperation now.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:29am On May 02, 2021
Roland17:


We desperately need to get back to being competitive. If we lose the Villarreal tie, finish 9/10 in the EPL our irrelevance in European football will even worsen. We are watching Arsenal decline and virtually become irrelevant before our eyes. There has to be a radical sense of desperation now.
Where does the change begin from?
The Board
The manager
The players
?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:11am On May 02, 2021
Spy360:

Where does the change begin from?
The Board
The manager
The players
?

It absolutely has to start with a change in ownership or an aggressive change in direction by the current owners which looks nearly impossible. We need owners who are totally vested in the club and are willing to invest in the club and not allow the club run based off its revenue like we are doing now. This will trickle down to the board members who understand the degree of urgency involved.

You want to know the truth? No serious owner will allow Arteta continue in a head coaching capacity if we finish 9/10 in the EPL, flunk the Europa Semi Final and finish without any trophy. The sense of urgency and the fact that ownership has invested a lot of money will trickle down to the kind of players we bring to the club.

We have been celebrating mediocrity for a while now and our position in the log is a clear reflection of who we are now and if nothing changes immediately, it will be come the norm and this is because the teams above us are not relenting. This would be the second time Leicester City will be going to the UCL ahead of us.. Then you have the Hammers who will be motivated by this season’s performance. We have not even mentioned the regulars like City, Chelsea, United and Liverpool..

So you see, if nothing changes in the next year, we will become totally irrelevant in the scheme of things.

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