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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 11:53pm On May 02, 2021
cliqtips:
I'm still asking myself why Koeman is not using this guy *Matheus Fernandes*
Lol. At some point, I thought nobody remembers that we have another midfielder that's wasting away.

Even Trincao would wither on the bench from the look of things
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by BykeLaByke: 11:58pm On May 02, 2021
FirstbornWds:
You still blame am for that Soler goal?


Na wa
Blame kwa.

I expected it to enter as soon as Soler shot it.

Cause I knew the ghost between Barca's goal would not be able to stop it as he's an expert at conceding thunderbolt goals.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by abduleez1(m): 5:29am On May 03, 2021
cliqtips:
I'm still asking myself why Koeman is not using this guy *Matheus Fernandes*
Your guess is as good as mine. undecided
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by abduleez1(m): 5:38am On May 03, 2021
FirstbornWds:
Lol. At some point, I thought nobody remembers that we have another midfielder that's wasting away.

Even Trincao would wither on the bench from the look of things
As I saw Fernandes name in squad list I shock sef. Wondering whether Koeman actually had plans for him, or he's just filling the player requirements.

The thing wey dey annoy me pass, why the fvvk will Koeman have Puig warming up at the sides, only for him not to play him. Consistently, back to back, he does that shït. It's obvious you don't like the guy, so why the fvvk you pretend. Why doesn't he have the balls to stay true to his agenda.
It's like he's just appeasing fans by including his name. Him go just use style dey warm the guy up, they pretend as if na in-game dynamics wey change na im make am no fit sub the guy in. When we all know say na 85' minutes him go put am(that's if he's merciful or cares at all).
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by PurpLChi: 6:39am On May 03, 2021
abduleez1:
Same here. I prefer Moriba to Pedri.
Moriba is just having a bad patch recently. It's like Koeman is telling him to do everything at once.
And the saying "doing everything does nothing"
eggzackly
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 6:46am On May 03, 2021
BykeLaByke:
Wakers club...in fact wake-keep.

This is is level...nothing to add again.

See him conceding from 30yards out again. lipsrsealed
I know what he's capable of that's why I said he should revive himself bro That first goal almost cost Barca badly And as for Soler's goal that was a freakin stunner out of the blues
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:16am On May 03, 2021
abduleez1:
As I saw Fernandes name in squad list I shock sef. Wondering whether Koeman actually had plans for him, or he's just filling the player requirements.

The thing wey dey annoy me pass, why the fvvk will Koeman have Puig warming up at the sides, only for him not to play him. Consistently, back to back, he does that shït. It's obvious you don't like the guy, so why the fvvk you pretend. Why doesn't he have the balls to stay true to his agenda.
It's like he's just appeasing fans by including his name. Him go just use style dey warm the guy up, they pretend as if na in-game dynamics wey change na im make am no fit sub the guy in. When we all know say na 85' minutes him go put am(that's if he's merciful or cares at all).
This is not the time for experiments. Even Dembele is struggling for play time. It is the rotation that cost us the Granada game.

Puig will not play a single minute until the end of the season. His gambled when he chose to stay after being asked to leave on loan. That gamble has failed. So he'll look back and remember that that single decision was his career worst.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by onuwaje(m): 8:06am On May 03, 2021
Commot play that Valencia second goal make brain
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by BykeLaByke: 8:23am On May 03, 2021
Kilishihunter:
I know what he's capable of that's why I said he should revive himself bro That first goal almost cost Barca badly And as for Soler's goal that was a freakin stunner out of the blues
Revive himself...hahaha...no problemo,we deh look.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by moufan: 9:20am On May 03, 2021
the essence of moriba in the team is still a mistery to me, what is he doing in the teamhuh
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:22am On May 03, 2021
And who turned it into an experiment? Koeman.

Puig is never an experiment; he deserves the promotion to the first team. You think he was joking in La Masia?

If the coach cannot use him now and you think the coach cannot "experiment", then that exactly has been the issue. The coach is not capable of managing players to keep the team fresh challenging on many fronts!

Don't you get?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:24am On May 03, 2021
moufan:
the essence of moriba in the team is still a mistery to me, what is he doing in the teamhuh
Anything to spite Puig, perhaps.

Koeman so hates Puig that a complete footballing rookie would be elevated above him.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:29am On May 03, 2021
Even the lack of rotation at the proper time has cost us freshness and competitiveness.

Imagine Koeman did not even know when to rotate.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 9:52am On May 03, 2021
BykeLaByke:
Revive himself...hahaha...no problemo,we deh look.
cheesy We gat no choice bro To get another elite keeper would cost a whole lot
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 10:16am On May 03, 2021
GrammarNazi1:
Anything to spite Puig, perhaps.

Koeman so hates Puig that a complete footballing rookie would be elevated above him.
Very painful I get koeman wasn't willing to even give him any reasonable game time but him bringing on a fatigued pedri against Granada in the loss was what I couldn't fathom Even if he had brought in pjanic it would have been better Now fatigue and stress is telling on pedri at his freakin young age.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 10:19am On May 03, 2021
Kilishihunter:
Very painful I get koeman wasn't willing to even give him any reasonable game time but him bringing on a fatigued pedri against Granada in the loss was what I couldn't fathom Even if he had brought in pjanic it would have been better Now fatigue and stress is telling on pedri at his freakin young age.
Koeman is not a good manager.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 11:07am On May 03, 2021
GrammarNazi1:
Koeman is not a good manager.
I don't know why everything Bartomeu involves himself with must surely get fault
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 11:12am On May 03, 2021
GrammarNazi1:
Koeman is not a good manager.
No single manager satisfied every member of the squad, not even for a manager at his first season in an ultra unstable squad in transition. Once he found a seemingly working team, it'll take only perhaps injury to change that team.
Messi, Grezimann and Frenkie de Jong have all been working a tightrope of suspension but the coach continued to risk them.

So, that's how it is.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 11:20am On May 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
No single manager satisfied every member of the squad, not even for a manager at his first season in an ultra unstable squad in transition. Once he found a seemingly working team, it'll take only perhaps injury to change that team.
Messi, Grezimann and Frenkie de Jong have all been working a tightrope of suspension but the coach continued to risk them.

So, that's how it is.
And who is talking about changing any team?

You need to be sure of a point before arguing against it.

Does a good coach refuse the development of other players?

Does a good coach not know WHEN to rotate and give minutes to other players?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 11:51am On May 03, 2021
GrammarNazi1:
And who is talking about changing any team?

You need to be sure of a point before arguing against it.

Does a good coach refuse the development of other players?

Does a good coach not know WHEN to rotate and give minutes to other players?
Good coaches win trophies. Rotating players in an unsettled squad such as ours, is a two-edged sword. It cost us 3 points against Granada.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 11:54am On May 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Good coaches win trophies. Rotating players in an unsettled squad such as ours, is a two-edged sword. It cost us 3 points against Granada.
A good coach knows when to rotate.

And who told you rotation cannot cost points sometimes.

A good coach knows WHEN to rotate but we can all agree that Koeman does not know WHEN to rotate.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by moufan: 12:04pm On May 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Good coaches win trophies. Rotating players in an unsettled squad such as ours, is a two-edged sword. It cost us 3 points against Granada.
true, the rotation probably caused barca the 3 points
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by losprince(m):
jpmoriarti:
Good coaches win trophies. Rotating players in an unsettled squad such as ours, is a two-edged sword. It cost us 3 points against Granada.
It wasn't rotation that cost us three points, it was the team selection that did. Koeman could have rotated and picked a much suitable squad for that match but he went with the usual suspects known to cause us heartaches again and again. koeman has shown that he can be clueless at times, just throwing in random things and hoping that something works, he is tactically inept and is yet to show any tactical brilliance since taking over this club.

I'm not a big Puig advocate, but pedri has become a one trick pony basically and is being overplayed, puig is known to show balls when put in matches and has a fighting spirit and wants to succeed at this club, that's the kind of players you reward with minutes, the kind of players that can improve drastically from seeing game time.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 1:50pm On May 03, 2021
The way JP is talking, you will think that Keoman is the only coach that inherited a troubled team.

Look at Tuchel that took over Chelsea mid season, are they not on their way to UCL final? Is he using the same players every match day?

The only thing Keoman knows how to do is to discourage performing players.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 2:26pm On May 03, 2021
losprince:
It wasn't rotation that cost us three points, it was the team selection that did. Koeman could have rotated and picked a much suitable squad for that match but he went with the usual suspects known to cause us heartaches again and again. koeman has shown that he can be clueless at times, just throwing in random things and hoping that something works, he is tactically inept and is yet to show any tactical brilliance since taking over this club.

I'm not a big Puig advocate, but pedri has become one trick pony basically and is being overplayed, puig is known to show balls when put in matches and has a fighting spirit and wants to succeed at this club, that's the kind of players you reward with minutes, the kind of players that can improve drastically from seeing game time.
With all due respect, JP is too one dimensional. If we lost points against Granada it must only be because the coach rotated.

How about other factors such as not using proper replacements?

Not using a proper tactic?

Not adapting a tactic?

And if Pedri and others had played the earlier matches well, the loss against Granada would not be this costly, would it?

It's a good thing that Koeman didn't use Puig because if only he had used him and we lost, Puig would have either deservedly or undeservedly been the scapegoat.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 2:31pm On May 03, 2021
homesteady:
The way JP is talking, you will think that Keoman is the only coach that inherited a troubled team.

Look at Tuchel that took over Chelsea mid season, are they not on their way to UCL final? Is he using the same players every match day?

The only thing Keoman knows how to do is to discourage performing players.
Despite aiming to overlook things here, I am forced to reply sometimes.

I completely agree with this.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by abduleez1(m): 2:42pm On May 03, 2021
GrammarNazi1:
With all due respect, JP is too one dimensional. If we lost points against Granada it must only be because the coach rotated.

How about other factors such as not using proper replacements?

Not using a proper tactic?

Not adapting a tactic?

And if Pedri and others had played the earlier matches well, the loss against Granada would not be this costly, would it?

It's a good thing that Koeman didn't use Puig because if only he had used him and we lost, Puig would have either deservedly or undeservedly been the scapegoat.
Na wetin dey make me happy be this.

It's like that goal Puig scored after coming in 2/3 minutes into the game sealed his fate on the bench. Koeman reasoned the BEST way to limit Puig's shine is to not let him play at all. Cos it seems, it's the paltry 5 minutes Koeman gives Puig that he plays well than even the 2 starts he's given him.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 2:50pm On May 03, 2021
homesteady:
The way JP is talking, you will think that Keoman is the only coach that inherited a troubled team.

Look at Tuchel that took over Chelsea mid season, are they not on their way to UCL final? Is he using the same players every match day?

The only thing Keoman knows how to do is to discourage performing players.
Tuchel inherited a very talented, large squad. Chelsea spent almost £200M to improve the squad. What do we have? Only Messi and Frenkie de Jong can dislodge a player in today's Chelsea team. So you can't really compare.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 2:54pm On May 03, 2021
cheesy grin

I give up on this.

cheesy grin

Lol.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 3:12pm On May 03, 2021
abduleez1:
Na wetin dey make me happy be this.

It's like that goal Puig scored after coming in 2/3 minutes into the game sealed his fate on the bench. Koeman reasoned the BEST way to limit Puig's shine is to not let him play at all. Cos it seems, it's the paltry 5 minutes Koeman gives Puig that he plays well than even the 2 starts he's given him.
You have to accept that not all squad members will ever get equal treatment. Some will definitely always play more than others while some will barely play. It is what it is.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 3:16pm On May 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Tuchel inherited a very talented, large squad. Chelsea spent almost £200M to improve the squad. What do we have? Only Messi and Frenkie de Jong can dislodge a player in today's Chelsea team. So you can't really compare.
I didn't want to comment before but I'll have to. Didn't the same talented and large Chelsea squad struggle under lampard that took them to the UCL this season. Even the players that you are even talking about each have one complaint or the other on the Chelsea thread. Tuchel lifted Chelsea not the other way round. Most of us have really cut some slack from koeman because it's his first season but what is wrong is wrong. Putting your ego and tactical ineptness ahead of your team's success is utter bullcrap. If not for Messi and dejong as you said maybe we'll have been fighting for the Europa league places. On the day those players don't turn up what's gonna become of the team? Imagine losing home and away to the worst Real Madrid team in years. Imagine conceding the group leadership to this juve side when you were in the driving seat to top the group. I won't even go into the psg tie. Who should be blame then? Bartomeu (He's gone now) or the players. He was brought him to salvage the situation not to help manage it.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by abduleez1(m): 3:17pm On May 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Good coaches win trophies. Rotating players in an unsettled squad such as ours, is a two-edged sword. It cost us 3 points against Granada.
I don't buy this. That rotation thingy costing us points—no offense but it's a double-edged crap, to me.

He is rotating, then why TF did he bring players who haven't played in a while into the team. Underperforming players at that, if not the worst rotation choices we have.

What happened to Trincao, Firpo. Even Pjanic. What happened to Araujo, then Mingueza moving back to RB since he wasn't confident on using Dest. The last few times Mingueza was at RB he played very well, even to an extent better than Dest in recent times.

"Rotating players in an unsettled squad" ......yet he brings players who aren't part of the squad for months. Isn't that a contradiction?

To the best of my knowledge Koeman has been using ONLY 12 players this season. With the additional being Dembele if we assume the first xi is the starters for these last few matches.
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