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Vlain:
Nope I said Pretoria vs kenya

Trying to divert

Shma2020:
First of all, the topic from the very beginning was your shack and poverty.
I want to single the individual you so that I don't provoke my good South African friends who don't peddle trash against us.

You bring Nairobi, I bring your shack and we move

What shat you high on cow dung

AfriqueDuZuid:
What shat you high on cow dung

Stop polluting and type well, okay?
Don't make your shack smell sewage with tension

AfriqueDuZuid:
This is Kenya best city

Nairobi is 90% slums, fact!

68816419:
Nairobi is 90% slums, fact!

Facts not sentiments

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Shma2020:
It will take your family 10yrs to raise funds to travel to Togo, isn't it?

Lemme give you a free advice as friend

before you get a visa, you need to go back to school and study basic things before going to embarrass your country, okay .

Lmao, he does not need a visa to travel to Togo, Togo is just after one country to get to Nigeria, and again it's not expensive to travel and live in Togo, don't be ignorant.

AfriqueDuZuid:
I been telling them of more than 20 new cities that are new up and running, they still come and say But but nairobi

I tell them Durban is buddy with $80 billion upgrade, they still come n say but Nairobi

I tell them of Gauteng developing 30 new cities, they still cry but Nairobi

LOL these people are hopeless, I mean they just reduced sandton to a shopping center , you can't take them serious

With their 27% urbanization, Nairobi is the only thing they will have.

Just30:



With their 27% urbanization, Nairobi is the only thing they will have.

And it's slummy

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Shma2020:
Kumasi can compare to Khayelitsha and Khayelitsha will still bit her.

Kumasi is a slum with better places thatched with shanties.

Kumasi in Kenya can only compare with kakamega.

#FixGHANA

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Does kakamega even appear on your map


Nurse your pain well

Your best city Nairobi is still playing catch up to Kumasi in terms of development.

I wonder why you kenyans even talk about slums.....


Kumasi does not have those horrible slums that you guys have in Nairobi.

Vlain:
U will be seeing the integration of slum in Nairobi tommorow

Shma2020:
This is where an average black kenyan like me stays.

I guess you have a huge problem in your own country where the few dominants have chased you to shacks.

With your poor mentality, you wont even be allowed at the gate of that place

AfriqueDuZuid:
And it's slummy

it's just sad that 80% of Nairobians have to live in slums.

The most degrading slums you will find in the world.

Appisko:
Facts not sentiments

What makes such nonsense facts..or you think banding together to console your sorry arse will degrade Nairobi... the world 6 most dynamic city, the 11st most ecological friendly city in the world and the most innovative city in Africa.Again slums occupy only 2 percent of Nairobi landmass, are not growing and are infact being reduced through demolition.Those are facts.Nairobi slums are well known.Nairobi is growing on steroids.. number of planned high-rise already overtook joburg.The road infrastructure is getting there with more than 1.5b dollars under construction.The Nairobi commuter rail is being extended.Nairobi adding 200 million litres of water this year.Nairobi extending it's sewage network to cover 75 of residents.Nairobi fixing walkway with more than 500km of pedestrian and cycling paths.Nairobi is putting up thousand units of affordable housing.

Stagnating SA - No developments

Randlord:
Stagnating SA - No developments

Compare yourself with say Malaysia or Thailand or Indonesia... countries you're supposed to be in same level.and you'll understand why you can only impress poor west Africans.Youre building more slums than such shopping centers.The economy is sick.

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rvp2018:
Compare yourself with say Malaysia or Thailand or Indonesia... countries you're supposed to be in same level.and you'll understand why you can only impress poor west Africans.Youre building more slums than such shopping centers.The economy is sick.

Heal bro , why do pics of SA bring out this bitter side of you? Lol

Randlord:
Heal bro , why do pics of SA bring out this bitter side of you? Lol

Trolls everywhere.

Why do you think I am bitter; I pity you and your declining country. 20 yrs ago when I first visited Joburg I was impressed - Nairobi then had a single CBD - Joburg had 3. Now I see an old decacying country and cities. Now I see Nairobi edging Joburg in 5-10yrs - all Nairobi need to fix are few minors things they are fixing.

If I want to be impressed I just visit Malaysia or Thailand or Indonesia or Vietnam or of course China - if you had not wasted a generation already - 2005 to now - you would be like this - NOT competing with Kenya - having been overtaken by Egypt now (ignore the paper giant of Nigeria with cooked data) - but with other proper middle class countries

Now, this is impressive - and makes you want to visit them Asian cities. Nairobi needs 30yrs (2050) to get here - but 10yrs max to South Africa level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDznHIgVMA&t=181s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTsIHL0JAQ

Randlord:
Heal bro , why do pics of SA bring out this bitter side of you? Lol

rvp20182:
Why do you think I am bitter; I pity you and your declining country. 20 yrs ago when I first visited Joburg I was impressed - Nairobi then had a single CBD - Joburg had 3. Now I see an old decacying country and cities. Now I see Nairobi edging Joburg in 5-10yrs - all Nairobi need to fix are few minors things they are fixing.

If I want to be impressed I just visit Malaysia or Thailand or Indonesia or Vietnam or of course China - if you had not wasted a generation already - 2005 to now - you would be like this - NOT competing with Kenya - having been overtaken by Egypt now (ignore the paper giant of Nigeria with cooked data) - but with other proper middle class countries

Now, this is impressive - and makes you want to visit them Asian cities. Nairobi needs 30yrs (2050) to get here - but 10yrs max to South Africa level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDznHIgVMA&t=181s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTsIHL0JAQ

Why feel pity for SA? Feel pity for your own country and city. Kenya was more developed than S Korea at independence, so technically that's your competition . You are SA's older brother but are stunted in growth. [b]BTW it was you who dragged us in this topic with your constant mentioning that you're catching up to SA and generally trying to patronise SA. Why do you want us gone now? [/b]The photos are making you angry cos they show the Nairobi 'emperor has no clothes'?

Your economy is 'booming' and yet you continue to churn out sub-par developments and there is no improvement at ground level, no FDI, no increased exports, just a debt-fueled property boom.

I saw a vid posted here about Upper Hill at ground level and was shocked, open drains and street hawkers in make shift stalls. You think you're catching up with all that? . You're just not tidy and fastidious enough to get on SA's level in 10 years, your country just lacks that attention to detail and high standards.

South Africans brought themselves to this Kenya viz Nigerian thread. Don't blame me . After it became obvious Nigeria stood no chance - South Africans and West Africans brought your country as the new opponent. Now I see you are all ganged up against fast-growing Kenya without a mineral - the largest such economy in SSA.

Kenya is nailing the basic down and is about to enter a phase of very high growth and progress. We have managed to reign on our population - and we are seeing less and less kids - with highest population cohort now the 10-14. As for export, fdi, etc - well our economy this year is projected to grow at 8 % (the most important metric) - Africa highest - our revenues will hit 21B plus - meanwhile your country will be lucky to get out of recession.

What Nairobi is is fixing big infrastructure (THE HARD part) - and the small stuff like - walkways - and pedestrian paths - bicycle lanes - and such attention to details - which are low-hanging fruit. Upper hill, Kilimani and Westland are transitioning from low residence to high rises organically...so the horizontal infrastructure is not yet there. They are not planned cities from the ground up like say Tatu city, Two Rivers, Konza, Eko Altantic dead city, or the many in South Africa...they are growing organically....so eventually when there is good enough densities..and the walkways are fixed...they will look as good. It takes few millions to do that...it's small thing. Nairobi is already on these small kind of stuff....anyway.

Walkways will cost 15m dollars to fix grey and red lanes all over Nairobi - very cheap - very low hanging stuff.
https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/general/nms-unveils-sh1-47-billion-plan-for-non-motorised-transport-corridors


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2GVF8-z5R0

Randlord:
Why feel pity for SA? Feel pity for your own country and city. Kenya was more developed than S Korea at independence, so technically that's your competition . You are SA's older brother but are stunted in growth. [b]BTW it was you who dragged us in this topic with your constant mentioning that you're catching up to SA and generally trying to patronise SA. Why do you want us gone now? [/b]The photos are making you angry cos they show the Nairobi 'emperor has no clothes'?

Your economy is 'booming' and yet you continue to churn out sub-par developments and there is no improvement at ground level, no FDI, no increased exports, just a debt-fueled property boom.

I saw a vid posted here about Upper Hill at ground level and was shocked, open drains and street hawkers in make shift stalls. You think you're catching up with all that? . You're just not tidy and fastidious enough to get on SA's level in 10 years, your country just lacks that attention to detail and high standards.

rvp20182:
South Africans brought themselves to this Kenya viz Nigerian thread. Don't blame me . After it became obvious Nigeria stood no chance - South Africans and West Africans brought your country as the new opponent. Now I see you are all ganged up against fast-growing Kenya without a mineral - the largest such economy in SSA.

Kenya is nailing the basic down and is about to enter a phase of very high growth and progress. We have managed to reign on our population - and we are seeing less and less kids - with highest population cohort now the 10-14. As for export, fdi, etc - well our economy this year is projected to grow at 8 % (the most important metric) - Africa highest - our revenues will hit 21B plus - meanwhile your country will be lucky to get out of recession.

What Nairobi is is fixing big infrastructure (THE HARD part) - and the small stuff like - walkways - and pedestrian paths - bicycle lanes - and such attention to details - which are low-hanging fruit. Upper hill, Kilimani and Westland are transitioning from low residence to high rises organically...so the horizontal infrastructure is not yet there. They are not planned cities from the ground up like say Tatu city, Two Rivers, Konza, Eko Altantic dead city, or the many in South Africa...they are growing organically....so eventually when there is good enough densities..and the walkways are fixed...they will look as good. It takes few millions to do that...it's small thing. Nairobi is already on these small kind of stuff....anyway.

Walkways will cost 15m dollars to fix grey and red lanes all over Nairobi - very cheap - very low hanging stuff.
https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/general/nms-unveils-sh1-47-billion-plan-for-non-motorised-transport-corridors


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2GVF8-z5R0

That's just the thing you don't get

You are fixing one city, SA is advancing 10 of its own

You are developing konza, SA got over 30 in development.

You started making walkways in your best city, we putting them in villages

rvp20182:
South Africans brought themselves to this Kenya viz Nigerian thread. Don't blame me . After it became obvious Nigeria stood no chance - South Africans and West Africans brought your country as the new opponent. Now I see you are all ganged up against fast-growing Kenya without a mineral - the largest such economy in SSA.

Kenya is nailing the basic down and is about to enter a phase of very high growth and progress. We have managed to reign on our population - and we are seeing less and less kids - with highest population cohort now the 10-14. As for export, fdi, etc - well our economy this year is projected to grow at 8 % (the most important metric) - Africa highest - our revenues will hit 21B plus - meanwhile your country will be lucky to get out of recession.

What Nairobi is is fixing big infrastructure (THE HARD part) - and the small stuff like - walkways - and pedestrian paths - bicycle lanes - and such attention to details - which are low-hanging fruit. Upper hill, Kilimani and Westland are transitioning from low residence to high rises organically...so the horizontal infrastructure is not yet there. They are not planned cities from the ground up like say Tatu city, Two Rivers, Konza, Eko Altantic dead city, or the many in South Africa...they are growing organically....so eventually when there is good enough densities..and the walkways are fixed...they will look as good. It takes few millions to do that...it's small thing. Nairobi is already on these small kind of stuff....anyway.

Walkways will cost 15m dollars to fix grey and red lanes all over Nairobi - very cheap - very low hanging stuff.
https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/general/nms-unveils-sh1-47-billion-plan-for-non-motorised-transport-corridors


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2GVF8-z5R0

Its 2021 you are jubilating over walkways, bicycle lanes?

How backward can you be

Shackman,

of course, it goes without saying that we are fixing the entire country. Mombasa alone has planned about 2B dollars project. LAMU-Turkana new corridor is ongoing with 22B dollars planned.We have invested 5B dollars on SGR - and another 1B on course to rehabilitate the old one.

When this thread started in 2016 - Kenya had about 3Million households connected to electricity - now that figure is well over 8M! About 15yrs in 2005 - only 0.4M kenyans were connected. We have plan to connect another 2m by 2022 - and we might even hit universal access - considering we have Africa leading solar connections.

We are building mega water dams and irrigation schemes. Bla de bla.

I can go on and on - but I suspect it would be like performing an orchestra to the sheep of sotholand.

There is a reason why in 2005 in South Africa - it's GDP was 260B and Kenya economy was 18B - and Now Kenya GDP is 100B and South Africa is 320B.

So shackman if in 15yrs we have reduced the gap from when South Africa was 15 times larger than kenya to just 3 times! - What make you think in the next 15yrs we cannot catch and even exceed South Africa.

Why would it be almost sacrilegious to Azanias to hear that Nairobi will definitely overtake Joburg soon when all data is screaming YES.

And pray what will STOP KENYA - maybe a civil war or some natural catastrophe - otherwise our non-mineral well-diversified economy has grown almost unperturbed by anything the last since 2003.

AfriqueDuZuid:
That's just the thing you don't get

You are fixing one city, SA is advancing 10 of its own

You are developing konza, SA got over 30 in development.

You started making walkways in your best city, we putting them in villages

When we go vertical - your run to horizontal
Look at how Nairobi is nibbling your city shackman

See how you dead city has 1 or zero building under development - with Nairobi 25-30 any given year.

Add 5 yrs - 5 times 30 =150 new buildings in Nairobi in 5yrs - overtaking joburg (that look likely to add only 5 new buildings - 1 every year)

AfriqueDuZuid:
Its 2021 you are jubilating over walkways, bicycle lanes?

How backward can you be

Please let's not forget that Mpaape slum in Abuja has 1million people and Accra has 265 slums in it and more are coming up

rvp20182:
The ease of doing business captures all that. Just say Tanzanians have no experience setting up business outside their country. Kenya has open door policy. Tanzania honestly cannot hack in Kenya - if South Africans companies cannot - please save your money and run. Kenya has brutal competition - and those that fail or find they cannot come - and get favours they normally get from banana republics - they start bad-mouthing kenya.

Setting up a company in kenya is easy and free for all - you don't need to see a minister or name - but be ready for competition.

There is a reason why our economy is a largest non-mineral economy in SSA - it down to a very strong private sector that is guaranteed to give you the most brutal competition.

It isn't that Tanzania can't but rather your government makes it so hard for foreign African companies to start business in Kenya let alone get a foothold in the market. Proof is in the stalling from 2017 of $100M investment in gas from Rostam Aziz a prominent Tz businessman and he met your president at State House, imagine if a person who has access to the highest people in power can't start an investment in Kenya imagine the thousand who don't have that sort of access?

Wuoche:
Please let's not forget that Mpaape slum in Abuja has 1million people and Accra has 265 slums in it and more are coming up

Though the onus is on you to provide the 265 slums. however kibera remain the largest Africa slums . millions of black kenya lives there .

Mzal3ndo:
It isn't that Tanzania can't but rather your government makes it so hard for foreign African companies to start business in Kenya let alone get a foothold in the market. Proof is in the stalling from 2017 of $100M investment in gas from Rostam Aziz a prominent Tz businessman and he met your president at State House, imagine if a person who has access to the highest people in power can't start an investment in Kenya imagine the thousand who don't have that sort of access?

mpharma, A start-up company in Ghana is controlling Kenya second largest pharmacy in Kenya.

After meeting the president what stopped him. The Rostam Aziz maybe was blocked by Magufuli...not Kenya. Magufuli refused kenya it's LNG gas. If he was coming to set up LPG - it's free for all.

Rostam joins Dangote - people who come to see the president to start a business - WHY? Kenya is not banana - come to Nairobi - register your business online - buy land or lease warehouse - import machinery - and be in business.

Seriously nobody can block you in our liberalized free democratic country. But if you want favours - forget it.

Mzal3ndo:
It isn't that Tanzania can't but rather your government makes it so hard for foreign African companies to start business in Kenya let alone get a foothold in the market. Proof is in the stalling from 2017 of $100M investment in gas from Rostam Aziz a prominent Tz businessman and he met your president at State House, imagine if a person who has access to the highest people in power can't start an investment in Kenya imagine the thousand who don't have that sort of access?

vaxx:
mpharma, A start-up company in Ghana is controlling Kenya second largest pharmacy in Kenya.

I heard that nigeria is still controlling your power. Is that true Vax? Clear the air.
https://www.nairaland.com/6539637/know-ghana-first-country-deport