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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:03pm On May 16, 2021
oduncojamaica:
Good evening family. Pls due to the price of 12mm my welder advise me to use 10mm for lintel work against 12mm.
Is this advisable
welder is advising you on structural materials of a building.

Be like say I no learn this work well

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:12pm On May 16, 2021
oduncojamaica:
Good evening family. Pls due to the price of 12mm my welder advise me to use 10mm for lintel work against 12mm.
Is this advisable

Please listen to your structural engineer. Don’t go with your welder abeg.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 9:17pm On May 16, 2021
michlins:
well confirm the sizes. They make it 4ft for the entrance so you can move large properties like deep freezers and fridges
I haven't had any problem moving fridges or any furnitures through 3 or 3.5 ft entrances or door.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:18pm On May 16, 2021
omanzo02:

I haven't had any problem move fridges or any furnitures through 3 or 3.5 ft entrances or door.
that's ok. Ten single doors is what you need then

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aimolatunde1(m): 9:22pm On May 16, 2021
n3xt:


Ok sir. The quality of the constituents too matter though. I've not seen many good sharp sand around... not even the ones filled with mud/dirt that are sold in Ajah and Ikorodu.

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Quarry dust can be utilized in concrete mixtures as a good substitute for natural river sand giving higher strength at 50% replacement (Balamurgan et al., 2013).
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The compressive strength of concrete from stone powder showed 14.76% higher value than that of the concrete made of normal sand (Mahzuz et al., 2011). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320213222_Parametric_Study_on_Quarry_Dust_and_Bacteria_in_Cement_Mortar_for_Next_Generation_A_Review

1. I agree with you on the quality of sharp sand available. I expected that you’d have seen my comment where I mentioned that the best sharp sand is washed sand (I also put it in bracket like I am doing here -gutter sand). Unwashed sand contains silt and/or clay that reduce the quality of the resulting product.
2. The above papers you cited never mentioned complete replacement of fine aggregate with stone (quarry) dust. They all mentioned partial replacements (also which I mentioned). But you said you used stone dust only for your own interlocking blocks. Remember I advised him to include stone dust but not to use only stone dust.
3. Partially replacing sand with stone dust will definitely improve the quality of your concrete/blocks. This is because the dust will fill up voids between the sand (fine aggregates) particles. The less voids you have, the stronger your concrete/block although it is not the only factor contributing to concrete strength.
I have read theses and journals that place the optimum proportion of partial replacement between 30% and 40%. There is the tipping point after which the strength begins to decline with an increase in stone dust proportion.

Here is my journal article on blocks:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344485159_Assessment_of_Selected_Engineering_Properties_of_Sandcrete_Blocks_from_Akinyele_Local_Government_Area_Oyo_State.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 9:22pm On May 16, 2021
michlins:
that's ok. Ten single doors is what you need then
The 4ft is double door or am I missing something?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aimolatunde1(m): 9:25pm On May 16, 2021
omanzo02:

The 4ft is double door or am I missing something?
4ft is double door.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:28pm On May 16, 2021
omanzo02:

The 4ft is double door or am I missing something?
yes the 4ft is the double doors, the single is 3ft.

The first is 4ft and the later picture is 3ft door

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aimolatunde1(m): 9:34pm On May 16, 2021
bixton:



I think you should elaborate on the quality of sharp sand used only for molding interlocks.

Apart from the others you've mentioned which are known to me. One can also used sharp sand and 3/8 coarse. Those in PHC who are familiar with it's usage understand. You only need to tell the person supplying the coarse sand the usage purpose to enable him bring the best quality.


Whenever you need to produce concrete or concrete related material (not mortar), washed sand is the best.
It is good to add stone dust (not more than 40% of fine aggregate) for improved quality but you’ll be fine if you don’t.
Yes you can use 3/8” coarse aggregate, but not anything above 1/2” (of course 3/8 is smaller than 1/2).

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 9:37pm On May 16, 2021
oduncojamaica:
Good evening family. Pls due to the price of 12mm my welder advise me to use 10mm for lintel work against 12mm.
Is this advisable
Hmmm.
It's even a bit proper to get the advice from an iron bender and not a welder.
If you use 10mm, you will be using more rods on each lintel compared to 12mm.
Well, let your engineer decide what to go for.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:39pm On May 16, 2021
Aimolatunde1:


1. I agree with you on the quality of sharp sand available. I expected that you’d have seen my comment where I mentioned that the best sharp sand is washed sand (I also put it in bracket like I am doing here -gutter sand). Unwashed sand contains silt and/or clay that reduce the quality of the resulting product.
2. The above papers you cited never mentioned complete replacement of fine aggregate with stone (quarry) dust. They all mentioned partial replacements (also which I mentioned). But you said you used stone dust only for your own interlocking blocks. Remember I advised him to include stone dust but not to use only stone dust.
3. Partially replacing sand with stone dust will definitely improve the quality of your concrete/blocks. This is because the dust will fill up voids between the sand (fine aggregates) particles. The less voids you have, the stronger your concrete/block although it is not the only factor contributing to concrete strength.
I have read theses and journals that place the optimum proportion of partial replacement between 30% and 40%. There is the tipping point after which the strength begins to decline with an increase in stone dust proportion.

Here is my journal article on blocks:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344485159_Assessment_of_Selected_Engineering_Properties_of_Sandcrete_Blocks_from_Akinyele_Local_Government_Area_Oyo_State.

Thanks for sharing. I got value
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 10:13pm On May 16, 2021
uncleteeh:

Hmmm.
It's even a bit proper to get the advice from an iron bender and not a welder.
If you use 10mm, you will be using more rods on each lintel compared to 12mm.
Well, let your engineer decide what to go for.
Yes you are right Sir, I mean iron bender.
The house is bungalow so no structural engineer involved.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 10:17pm On May 16, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Please listen to your structural engineer. Don’t go with your welder abeg.
Sir the house is bungalow, no structural engineer involved.
It's iron bender not welder
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 10:27pm On May 16, 2021
michlins:
yes the 4ft is the double doors, the single is 3ft.

The first is 4ft and the later picture is 3ft door

Alright, I think the 3 ft seem perfect for the space I have, I would rather have a wider windows than door, ventilation is a daily occurrence than moving stuff.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 10:37pm On May 16, 2021
omanzo02:


Alright, I think the 3 ft seem perfect for the space I have, I would rather have a wider windows than door, ventilation is a daily occurrence than moving stuff.
if I understand correctly, this is a commercial build not a private home right. .


So what you want isn't the priority here but what the occupants will like. Having said that, your house I believe already has its measurements

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 10:41pm On May 16, 2021
sinorte:


Please I need help! We are at a DIY stage of this project.

What are the materials really required for the production of interlocking stones? I understand stone dust is better, and that's what we planned to use if not for cost. But can I really use sharp sand as substitute, just as the artisan suggested?

He's also positing that granite will form part of the mixture (when sand is used) to produce the stones. What granite size do you think is ideal? Please help me with these information. Na beg I dey.

Thank you to Aimolatunde1 and N3xt. You both did justice to my enquiries. I'll take the information shared under advisement.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:13am On May 17, 2021
oduncojamaica:

Sir the house is bungalow, no structural engineer involved.
It's iron bender not welder

Okay o cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:34am On May 17, 2021
oduncojamaica:
Good evening family. Pls due to the price of 12mm my welder advise me to use 10mm for lintel work against 12mm.
Is this advisable

No!

The 10mm of today is not even up to 8mm of a decade ago. So why are you considering this? To save what exactly?

You won’t save more than 30 - 50k if you choose to do the iron bender way rather than the right way.

Save up more money and do it right the first time.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 4:07am On May 17, 2021

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by CuteMaro(m): 4:07am On May 17, 2021
Jasobry:


These are local wooden doors...they can pass for imported doors when completed.

Will share later.

Its 4 inches thick solid wood. Exposed to harsh weather conditions for more than 2 months before cutting to doors
This house looks good. Would love to see full photos of the front view of this house. Is it possible?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 4:27am On May 17, 2021
CuteMaro:

This house looks good. Would love to see full photos of the front view of this house. Is it possible?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 4:34am On May 17, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 4:55am On May 17, 2021
DFAMEGUY11S:
good morning sir let me supply you tile and sanitary wares for this your project

Distance is the barrier. Cost of logistics won't favour me

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 5:45am On May 17, 2021
uncleteeh:

Hmmm.
It's even a bit proper to get the advice from an iron bender and not a welder.
If you use 10mm, you will be using more rods on each lintel compared to 12mm.
Well, let your engineer decide what to go for.

Very correct. I wanted to ask the difference between a Welder and an Iron bender. My Structural Engineer goofed big time when I was building as I wasn't around when the building started up to decking level.

It was when we were about to do the decking that I called a seasoned iron bender, with a lot of construction experiences under his belt, to do the iron works for me. On getting to my site, because of some structural defects he saw, he advised places that we needed to put hidden beams, open beams and other reinforcement amendments to support the integrity of the building in certain places of the decking that were not in the structural plan as the building is a lengthy one.

My "COREN" registered structural Engineer agreed with him completely. That was how the building was saved. Since then, I had relied on the iron bender for certain things pertaining to the building.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 8:08am On May 17, 2021
DFAMEGUY11S:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by YeyeBoyfriend: 8:26am On May 17, 2021
michlins:
yes the 4ft is the double doors, the single is 3ft.

The first is 4ft and the later picture is 3ft door
good morning sir, how much for the 4ft and 3ft doors respectively?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 8:29am On May 17, 2021
Focusmind:


Very correct. I wanted to ask the difference between a Welder and an Iron bender. My Structural Engineer goofed big time when I was building as I wasn't around when the building started up to decking level.

It was when we were about to do the decking that I called a seasoned iron bender, with a lot of construction experiences under his belt, to do the iron works for me. On getting to my site, because of some structural defects he saw, he advised places that we needed to put hidden beams, open beams and other reinforcement amendments to support the integrity of the building in certain places of the decking that were not in the structural plan as the building is a lengthy one.

My "COREN" registered structural Engineer agreed with him completely. That was how the building was saved. Since then, I had relied on the iron bender for certain things pertaining to the building.
Those Iron benders too are very good, experience gannered for so many years cannot be toyed with.
I have one here in Ibadan, I knew him through my bigger boss.
I respect him a lot.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:30am On May 17, 2021
YeyeBoyfriend:
good morning sir, how much for the 4ft and 3ft doors respectively?
40,000 and 30,000 respectively
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by YeyeBoyfriend: 8:37am On May 17, 2021
michlins:
40,000 and 30,000 respectively
can I get the 4ft for 30k sir, and where's your location?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 8:38am On May 17, 2021
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I just had to laugh.

In a sane climate, most of our so-called Buildings will never pass an inspection with so many Code violations. grin grin grin

But we move.
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