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Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Offpoint1: 8:58pm On May 19, 2021
dallasi:
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Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Ninokingz1(m): 9:01pm On May 19, 2021
blasterman:


false

a cleaner in UK is still a cleaner

How much value is the cleaner adding to society.

You ppl and ur poverty mentality.

My guy went to UK to do masters back in the day, after doing masters the only steady job he could get was menial work. he could not survive corporate world they were firing him left and right.

Spending all that money to do masters and UK corporate world is tough espeically with heavy naija accent.

The guy abandon his menial work and came back to naija.
He don build house now all the other foilks in the UK still dey do their menial job.

Is that life?

Nigeriais bad we know but remeber we all die eventually.

Everybody wan go abroad hussle come back come die for naija

Unless u are a footballer or in medical field UK is a waste of time and life

Do you know what examples stands for?
Did you read through the lines I did advise him on his career pad?

Shallow minds yapa for here that’s why I rarely comment or quote in this forum since it’s a norm in nairaland that if you wish to quote someone it has to start with insult.

My only words to you is go back and ask your friend to tell you the truth.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Ninokingz1(m): 9:11pm On May 19, 2021
ibedun:


Are you in Nigeria or the Uk?
You are surely not in the UK.

I’m in Nigeria.

You wish to see me?
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by peropoliet(m): 9:23pm On May 19, 2021
kktbm:
Good dey guys..... I was discussing with a friend of mine. He wants to move out of the country(uk) but his parents are trying to cajole him to stay ( he’s from a well to do family and they are financially capable)

His plan is after nysc he would go for masters and find his way.

He is 21 and currently serving (he’s field is IT)
But the issue is that his parent are trying to fine tune his head to stay (he’s the last born)

Their excuse is that
1) you would do menial jobs there
2) there is nothing there
3) even if you get a good job there, it’s difficult to rise as a black man
4) you will be lonely

Their main bone of contention is that there is nothing there.
Note: his dad and 4 other siblings out of 5 studied in the uk tho.

My friend doesn’t even want to stay atall, most of his friend are in the uk, he doesn’t have friends in Nigeria except a few. He doesn’t like going out because he said his mind is not in Nigeria. If you see him ehn you will know that he’s depressed. All he wants is to move to the uk.

He’s not even a badboy he doesn’t smoke, drink
He’s not a womanizer

(2 of his siblings have been in the UK SINCE early 2000’s and are already citizens)

The dad also isn’t saying he should not go, but after service, he should get a job first probably with Goverment (due to job security because his dad retired with the government) then work 2-3 years before going for his master.

His point his that he wants to go now that the funds and everything is intact. What if something should happen in future nko?

My advice for him his to leave immediately after service after all he has siblings who are in their early 40’s there to put him through and also a lot of family friends there

What would you advice

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Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by heavensown: 10:37pm On May 19, 2021
I'm quite surprised at a lot of the comments I see here. Not all Nigerians in the UK do menial jobs you know. There is very good prospect in IT and shortage of highly skilled professionals in this field. If you know your stuff, network with the right people and gather some good professional qualifications, the sky is the limit for you, especially in London. I have never done any menial job since over 10 years I that I moved to the UK and most of the people I know are working professionals like myself. Even if you do menial jobs for the first year or so when you're still a student, it's mostly because of the work restriction, only 20 hours. A lot of people end up in professional jobs after graduating. Please tell your friend not to come to the UK with that mindset that he will end up with a menial job. You can succeed and have a good career. Speaking from personal experience and trust me, there are MANY Nigerians are doing very well here.

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Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Dodger8(m): 10:40pm On May 19, 2021
ibedun:


You’ve never travelled anywhere! See him talking about benefits and kids.
Mumu check my bio before you come on here and display your foolishness ... I'm sure your family has realized it wasted money on your education but you don't need to expose it to everyone. If you don't have facts to counter my arguments please shut up... I blame Netflix for letting people like you think they understand how things work in the Civilized world. Some concepts will remain strange to you till you leave that jungle.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by taibod: 11:06pm On May 19, 2021
[quote author=kktbm post=101775814]Good dey guys..... I was discussing with a friend of mine. He wants to move out of the country(uk) but his parents are trying to cajole him to stay ( he’s from a well to do family and they are financially capable)

His plan is after nysc he would go for masters and find his way.

He is 21 and currently serving (he’s field is IT)
But the issue is that his parent are trying to fine tune his head to stay (he’s the last born)

Their excuse is that
1) you would do menial jobs there
2) there is nothing there
3) even if you get a good job there, it’s difficult to rise as a black man
4) you will be lonely

Their main bone of contention is that there is nothing there.
Note: his dad and 4 other siblings out of 5 studied in the uk tho.

My friend doesn’t even want to stay atall, most of his friend are in the uk, he doesn’t have friends in Nigeria except a few. He doesn’t like going out because he said his mind is not in Nigeria. If you see him ehn you will know that he’s depressed. All he wants is to move to the uk.

He’s not even a badboy he doesn’t smoke, drink
He’s not a womanizer

(2 of his siblings have been in the UK SINCE early 2000’s and are already citizens)

The dad also isn’t saying he should not go, but after service, he should get a job first probably with Goverment (due to job security because his dad retired with the government) then work 2-3 years before going for his master.

His point his that he wants to go now that the funds and everything is intact. What if something should happen in future nko?

My advice for him his to leave immediately after service after all he has siblings who are in their early 40’s there to put him through and also a lot of family friends there

What would you advice


Hmm I guess he's the only child with his parent for now that's why they don't want him to go so they won't be lonely, as for me o since his mind is not in Nigeria again he should go to avoid had I know issue and try and look for someone to be with his parent like someone in his family around 15years of age to avoid issues or little maid to be with them so they won't be lonely.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Mrnairalandd: 11:13pm On May 19, 2021
SmartyPants:


I visited several times and stayed for months on one occasion. I took issue with the specific claim that there is no social life. Of course there is. You can play football, go to games, eat out, go see a movie, visit a bar etc.

You may not appreciate these activities but don't say there is not social life. Why must you use your gadgets in a manner that would disturb your neighbors before you know that you are enjoying social life sir?

I wouldn't.advise anyone to move there for work coz its not easy to assimilate, yes. But claiming there is no social life is wrong.

Let me address your first point, you said i can play game and all that. The question is where and how? You mean someone should go out there in that terrible cold weather to play football or drink! Who ll play football/drink in that horrible weather except professional footballers who have no choice than to do what they had already signed for.

The weather is too bad for anyone from Africa-Nigeria to enjoy anything outdoors in UK. You ll need to wear about 3 clothes with big heavy jacket just to eat out but in Nigeria all you need is your shirt.

Parking and congestion charge are another problems one must take into account before venturing out

I don’t know if you have lived in a white dominated area before like Bromley South, you ll realise that no matter how low your Hifi stereo is, these bastards ll still find something to say. Even my mum was shocked when she came around and heard them complaining about my stereo. Guess what! My mum couldn’t even ear the sound in the bedroom but my next door neighbours came to knock on my door to inform me about how the stereo was disturbing her life

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Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by SmartyPants(m): 11:25pm On May 19, 2021
Mrnairalandd:


Let me address your first point, you said i can play game and all that. The question is where and how? You mean someone should go out there in that terrible cold weather to play football or drink! Who ll play football/drink in that horrible weather except professional footballers who have no choice than to do what they had already signed for.

The weather is too bad for anyone from Africa-Nigeria to enjoy anything outdoors in UK. You ll need to wear about 3 clothes with big heavy jacket just to eat out but in Nigeria all you need is your shirt.

Parking and congestion charge are another problems one must take into account before venturing out

I don’t know if you have lived in a white dominated area before like Bromley South, you ll realise that no matter how low your Hifi stereo is, these bastards ll still find something to say. Even my mum was shocked when she came around and heard them complaining about my stereo. Guess what! My mum couldn’t even ear the sound in the bedroom but my next door neighbours came to knock on my door to inform me about how the stereo was disturbing her life


Again, it comes down to your personal preferences.

The weather might be an issue for some but me I enjoyed it plus inside the house was well-heated so no need for wearing layers of clothing.

I also played football throughout, with county league teams. In winter the only time we didn't play was when the pitch was water logged. Yes, it could be uncomfortable and if you don't wear gloves your fingers will ache when you get in, but it was still fun for me.

Parking can't be your issue when England has such an efficient public transport system. Besides this is you complaining about the cost of social life, not that there is none. So if you can afford it, England does have a great social scene.

I lived in Bradford and our home was detached so no reason for neighbors to come complaining.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by mentored: 12:26am On May 20, 2021
kktbm:
Good dey guys..... I was discussing with a friend of mine. He wants to move out of the country(uk) but his parents are trying to cajole him to stay ( he’s from a well to do family and they are financially capable)

His plan is after nysc he would go for masters and find his way.

He is 21 and currently serving (he’s field is IT)
But the issue is that his parent are trying to fine tune his head to stay (he’s the last born)

Their excuse is that
1) you would do menial jobs there
2) there is nothing there
3) even if you get a good job there, it’s difficult to rise as a black man
4) you will be lonely

Their main bone of contention is that there is nothing there.
Note: his dad and 4 other siblings out of 5 studied in the uk tho.

My friend doesn’t even want to stay atall, most of his friend are in the uk, he doesn’t have friends in Nigeria except a few. He doesn’t like going out because he said his mind is not in Nigeria. If you see him ehn you will know that he’s depressed. All he wants is to move to the uk.

He’s not even a badboy he doesn’t smoke, drink
He’s not a womanizer

(2 of his siblings have been in the UK SINCE early 2000’s and are already citizens)

The dad also isn’t saying he should not go, but after service, he should get a job first probably with Goverment (due to job security because his dad retired with the government) then work 2-3 years before going for his master.

His point his that he wants to go now that the funds and everything is intact. What if something should happen in future nko?

My advice for him his to leave immediately after service after all he has siblings who are in their early 40’s there to put him through and also a lot of family friends there

What would you advice



all their points are valid



But in staying back in Nigeria


there is only one and ultimate risk


YOU MAY DIE CARELESSLY


Na keke kill my best friend

nepa killed my baby girl


make i continue?
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by mentored: 12:30am On May 20, 2021
blasterman:


false

a cleaner in UK is still a cleaner

How much value is the cleaner adding to society.

You ppl and ur poverty mentality.

My guy went to UK to do masters back in the day, after doing masters the only steady job he could get was menial work. he could not survive corporate world they were firing him left and right.

Spending all that money to do masters and UK corporate world is tough espeically with heavy naija accent.

The guy abandon his menial work and came back to naija.
He don build house now all the other foilks in the UK still dey do their menial job.

Is that life?

Nigeriais bad we know but remeber we all die eventually.

Everybody wan go abroad hussle come back come die for naija

Unless u are a footballer or in medical field UK is a waste of time and life



Football and medical field you say


Your comment comes with little or no research and full of emotions.


It will be HIGHLY RISKY to argue 'intelligently' with you
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by blasterman(m): 12:51am On May 20, 2021
mentored:




Football and medical field you say


Your comment comes with little or no research and full of emotions.


It will be HIGHLY RISKY to argue 'intelligently' with you

speaking from experience as well having worked in the uk before i japa from there. i also japa from naija too and more eager than that guy

Look if you work in the western world you might get paid to pay ur bills and have some savings if you live a simple life.

If you have a business that is making money maybe

Im happy with my situation today thank God.

IT too pays well in the UK but with remote working if your good ur good.

like i said earlier na the person life. dont take advice from strangers on the internet.

or take it with a grain of salt
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by nony43(m): 3:10am On May 20, 2021
ceejay80s:
Nigeria is better, there's nothing in uk, no job for black men there, uk is rubbish, Dubai sef better, many of u Dont know this because to disappear for naija just dey hungry una, when uk dey reign don't pass, there's nothing there, how many of ur celebs go to uk again







Which UK are you talking about?
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by nony43(m): 3:10am On May 20, 2021
eonyiche:


He should listen to his parents. Best and honest advice from them. If you are well traveled, you will surely understand the parents advise is the best






Pls it is not the best.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by nony43(m): 3:12am On May 20, 2021
blasterman:


nothing dey UK except he wan go enjoy or groove but u say hes not that type. IT all work can be done remotely and boys are making million dollar deals from naija.

People in UK miss naija every second and ppl in naija want to japa.

UK is good for long vacation especially when money dey.






Pls say what you know.

But to work and hussle as a black man, u are just like an aboki from niger rep

the choice is urs eventually cos na ur life
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by nony43(m): 3:18am On May 20, 2021
[quote author=Ninokingz1 post=101850137]A cleaner doing a full time job in UK is paid better than a Director in Federal Civil Service.

But if his reasons for leaving Nigeria is because all his friends are in UK then it’s not a good one. On the aspect of being lonely might be true depending on the part of UK he’s planning to stay. (But don’t forget white babes the rush Nigerians o, lol).

For there’s nothing special in UK might also be true but don’t forget that nothing too special is in Nigeria too. At least, you will see usefulness of being a human in UK.

For career wise, as an IT personnel that guy will get a better Job that will pay him nothing less than £60k p|a all he has to do is doing a little upgrade courses here.

Finally even if he ends up as an Care Assistant, at the end of every month, he goes home with nothing less than a million naira after Tax and 500k savings after monthly expenses.

So, how many Jobs in Nigeria can guarantee you that? [/quote




Your comment is the most reasonable here.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by nony43(m): 3:24am On May 20, 2021
planetx:
His parents are telling him the truth, there is actually nothing there. And the anti immigrant sentiment among oyinbos in the UK right now is high, only little kids on NL that have never been to the airport will be hyping UK with all this japa comments.







Pls say what you know.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by ibedun: 3:24am On May 20, 2021
Dodger8:

Mumu check my bio before you come on here and display your foolishness ... I'm sure your family has realized it wasted money on your education but you don't need to expose it to everyone. If you don't have facts to counter my arguments please shut up... I blame Netflix for letting people like you think they understand how things work in the Civilized world. Some concepts will remain strange to you till you leave that jungle.

Tell us where you have travelled to or lived. Impoverished idiot talking about social security benefits like its a something to be proud of. Social security is mainly for people at the bottom of the ladder. Ode!
Come to the UK and be a cleaner nau,.. see if your wife or children will be proud of you. Oya go and sell your family house and jaapa! After 20 years you will cry en.......and your destiny will be spent in a cold single box room in London. Ode!
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by ibedun: 3:26am On May 20, 2021
Ninokingz1:


I’m in Nigeria.

You wish to see me?

No wonder you are living in abroad fantasy.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by ibedun: 3:28am On May 20, 2021
CYPRIANJUNGLE:
Go tell ur papa

If I was given the opportunity I can't be sharing the same country with a cow like you

Given the opportunity? By whom?
You and your fada will die in that zoo!
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Dafungames: 7:33am On May 20, 2021
Do you know how much they pay IT (CS) engineer in the U.S.A?

Your friend is one of the highly sought out for in the world. If he gets a job he in that field from even an average company, trust me he will be making atleast $4,000 dollars daily.

Your friends should disappear ooo. That's my advice.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by kwemkizito(m): 10:25am On May 20, 2021
Dafungames:
Do you know how much they pay IT (CS) engineer in the U.S.A?

Your friend is one of the highly sought out for in the world. If he gets a job he in that field from even an average company, trust me he will be making atleast $4,000 dollars daily.

Your friends should disappear ooo. That's my advice.


Yeah.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by kwemkizito(m): 10:30am On May 20, 2021
Let him move to where ever his heart desires, happiness brings success, as long as he isn't happy here in Nigeria he will not be successful, only if his mindset changes, U. K isn't easy yes but it is far more better than Nigeria where no one has peace of mind, so much fear and uncertainty, if one move to U. K don't expect to make it big within 3-4 years, consistency, focus and hard work matters wherever one finds himself. Let him go to U. K and I wish him all the best.


Medical doctors
Nurses

have a high demand for job with wonderful salary, if you have money to fund tuition fees then carry on.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Reex12(m): 10:54am On May 20, 2021
Dafungames:
Do you know how much they pay IT (CS) engineer in the U.S.A?

Your friend is one of the highly sought out for in the world. If he gets a job he in that field from even an average company, trust me he will be making atleast $4,000 dollars daily.

Your friends should disappear ooo. That's my advice.
You think america value una education as anything grin be like say u never reach US na why u dey cap
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Dafungames: 11:18am On May 20, 2021
Reex12:
You think america value una education as anything grin be like say u never reach US na why u dey cap


Dude I'm speaking from the experience of people I know.

If he didn't study in Abroad he can go do his master's there. I'm sure they would value him.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Reex12(m): 12:12pm On May 20, 2021
Dafungames:



Dude I'm speaking from the experience of people I know.

If he didn't study in Abroad[b]he can go do his master's there. I'm sure they would value him[\b]
Yeah.. Goodthing your rephrased bcus naija certificate na mean anything for there
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by CYPRIANJUNGLE: 12:42pm On May 20, 2021
Go and brain wash ur mum and not me you ain't in any UK u dey for under one bridge dey yarn nonsense
ibedun:


I am in that same UK your papa and multiple generations are dreaming of coming, though you will never get here. You will never get a visa. Kee yaself!
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Mrnairalandd: 1:08pm On May 20, 2021
SmartyPants:


Again, it comes down to your personal preferences.

The weather might be an issue for some but me I enjoyed it plus inside the house was well-heated so no need for wearing layers of clothing.

I also played football throughout, with county league teams. In winter the only time we didn't play was when the pitch was water logged. Yes, it could be uncomfortable and if you don't wear gloves your fingers will ache when you get in, but it was still fun for me.

Parking can't be your issue when England has such an efficient public transport system. Besides this is you complaining about the cost of social life, not that there is none. So if you can afford it, England does have a great social scene.

I lived in Bradford and our home was detached so no reason for neighbors to come complaining.

Best of luck!
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Dodger8(m): 1:55pm On May 20, 2021
ibedun:


Tell us where you have travelled to or lived. Impoverished idiot talking about social security benefits like its a something to be proud of. Social security is mainly for people at the bottom of the ladder. Ode!
Come to the UK and be a cleaner nau,.. see if your wife or children will be proud of you. Oya go and sell your family house and jaapa! After 20 years you will cry en.......and your destiny will be spent in a cold single box room in London. Ode!
This is what happens when you come from a pedigree of poverty, you are a in prison of your mind. Sell family house to buy ticket and relocate? Na so e bad for you? If you are suffering ask for help. We are talking job benefits you are here thinking of leeching off the system... What kind of yeye gig are you doing that doesn't offer health insurance , education reimbursements , stock options and 401k or pension after 90 days for starters? If God forbid you start as a cleaner after 10 or however many years you remain a cleaner the problem is not the system its YOU. School don close abi? Your mates wey dey live well no go find wetin dem dey read or do to improve themselves stay on the internet spewing insults .. Las las you'll end up doing wire wire in your old age.. Ekuke like you. Oh and list where youve travelled to shebi na you dey here forming know it all..
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by Dafungames: 2:20pm On May 20, 2021
Reex12:
Yeah.. Goodthing your rephrased bcus naija certificate na mean anything for there

You are right sha
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by iamdapsyj(m): 5:38pm On May 20, 2021
blasterman:


you lack persperctive.

A cleaner is a cleaner

A director in a civil service if they do a good job can make change but most directors want to steal money.

U nor fit steal money as cleaner.

All those cleaner job inthe UK are meant for secondary school kids or poverty ppl.

U will find someone with BSc/MSc doing cleaner.

it makes sense if its a student job but after that e no make sense at all.

who lacks perspective here!! You just jump on only one one part of his submission without considering the others and you felt you have made a point.

The Op knows better since he has siblings there.
Re: Should He Stay In Nigeria Or Move To UK? by ibedun: 7:46pm On May 20, 2021
CYPRIANJUNGLE:
Go and brain wash ur mum and not me you ain't in any UK u dey for under one bridge dey yarn nonsense

Google any street of your choice in Barking IG11, UK and I will go and paste CYPRIANJUNGLE on the street sign, take a phone picture, upload and send it back to you in my reply. Mumu, go and join your mates under the bridge!
And for your information I love Lagos pass London or New York or Los Angeles or Paris or Dubai or Istanbul or Rome or Casablanca or Brussels or Zurich or Frankfurt or Amsterdam (Kai!!! cheesy I don travel for this world ooo). Infact like Lagos I love Accra, Banjul, Dakar, Conakry or Abidjan or Nairobi .......
Try me I am in London right now!!!! And I will return to Lagos city on Sunday, June 7 and I can show you my street in Lekki and my beloved Amala joint in Ajao Estate!!!
Ode!

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