kabe1:


Dude, you need to be smarter.

There's currently no JF-17 in service anywhere in the world that uses an AESA radar.

Nigeria has bought 3 units of JF-17 Block II.

The JF-17 is a 4 GEN fighter jet.

You don't have any information or intel which is not publicly available.

Stop been ridiculous.

kabe1:


Cockpit's of 5th Generation fighter jets are usually classified.

The F-22 cockpit used to be classified.

The SU-57 and J-20 cockpits are still classified.

The JF-17 is a light weight fighter jets, all information about this aircraft including what it's cockpit looks like is generally open information.

It's a capable jet, but it's not a high end fighter like the SU-30 or MIG-29.

In fact NAF already showed what the Jet's cockpit looks like in their recently released documentary.

Covert1:


That documentary showed you installation and activation modules not the active cockpit. The important aspects of this Jet are still classified. You can't claim anything to the contrary.

Covert1:


The NAF JF-17 is a 4.5 GEN Jet. Pls be specific. The pilot is a seasoned aviator to know enough not to say otherwise in world view.

kabe1:


The only 4.5 JF-17 available anywhere in the world is a flying prototype currently stationed at Catic in China.

It's not in the Pakistani air force, Chinese Air Force and certainly not in Nigeria.

That pilot was wrong to refer to the JF-17 as a 4.5 gen aircraft.

Hennynitan:

Hmmmmm... So should we believe kabe or the Nigerian air force pilot that is flying the jet?
If the pilot is wrong then it's a disgrace to the air force that its pilot don't know the type of aircraft he was trained to fly. Like that should be a basic 101 knowledge in his training course for this jet

demolition:


The question is, do you believe the manufacturer or the pilot?

Even the Pakistanis don't fly any 4.5gen jf17

kabe1:


The only 4.5 JF-17 available anywhere in the world is a flying prototype currently stationed at Catic in China.

It's not in the Pakistani air force, Chinese Air Force and certainly not in Nigeria.

That pilot was wrong to refer to the JF-17 as a 4.5 gen aircraft.

kabe1:


The only 4.5 JF-17 available anywhere in the world is a flying prototype currently stationed at Catic in China.

It's not in the Pakistani air force, Chinese Air Force and certainly not in Nigeria.

That pilot was wrong to refer to the JF-17 as a 4.5 gen aircraft.

Hennynitan:

The job of a pilot is likened to a job of a doctor. Any small mistake is disastrous.

If this is true then that pilots training should be questioned and he should be returned to train afresh.

kabe1:


Stop trying to be smart by half.

You claimed NAF did not show cockpit and MFD.

I proved this was false, you're now shifting goal post.

Covert1:


There's no viper killed. The NAF JF-17 is a 4.5 Gen cadre said the NAF fighter pilot himself flying it. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with that except that because it has a Nigerian tag with it. Last I checked I have no proof of you been an aviator in any measure. I'd take the word of the pilot anyday anytime.

JOSCOFELIX:
we need to strength our relationship with Pakistan this is a good allies. the only 4.5 generation jet in the whole west african . good friend take you to success,

fabselad:


I am not an aviator but lets call a spade a spade. The JF17 block 2 is a good aircraft but it isn't a Gen 4.5. I might not be an aviator but even the Pakistanis say it.

Covert1:


Really, are you serious, how dare you! Kabe1 just claimed on Nairaland a fighter pilot don't know the machine he is flying and he kabe1 knows better. Well thank God I have enough sense to know you have just made a full time mockery of yourself before the whole world. Therefore your assertion is not only wrong, amateurish, ignoble, ignorant but patently irrelevant and of no consequence. You can accept what works in your world to sleep.

That fighter pilot migrated from the F7-Ni to the JF-17N Thunder and knows exactly what he is saying without mincing words and I believe him totally. When you graduate first from basic flying and prove it then I'll listen to you. Right now you are nothing more than just an internet military enthusiast who is ignorant.

ugo4u:

Those three aircrafts delivered to NAF are 4.5 generation aircraft, it was delivered on specifications, just confirmed from an instructor. Subsequent deliveries which have been negotiated for are Block 11 and 4th generation Aircrafts.

fabselad:


LOL you amaze me bro. hahahah. So a pilot can't make a mistake due to being carried away by the euphoria of the ceremony. Some is telling you a the only JF17 considered as Gen 4.5 is block 3 not block 2 and you still argue. the only block 3 manufactured is still been tested. Show which article would call a JF17 block 2 a 4.5 gen aircraft. Soon you would start comparing those JF17s with SAAF SAAB Gripen.LOL

fabselad:


Can I ask you what are the requirements an aircraft must meet before categorizing an aircraft a 4.5 Gen?
Do they have AESA radars?

JOSCOFELIX:
j17 with nigeria airforce is being built on specification. and that was the major reason they was a increase in cost. some of you lack some simple understanding , if the former cas say the j17 is an advance version , than who are you on narialand without a military or civilian background of jet or aircraft

ugo4u:
I just watched the documentary of the JF-17 induction and I happen to know pilot that introduced the aircraft (Squad Ldr Abatuba) it's him and his squad that crashed those F7s during a training exercise for independence day celebration I think in 2018 or so..
Man is a seasoned pilot, amongst the best fixed wing Pilots in the Airforce.

Covert1:


Really, are you serious, how dare you! Kabe1 just claimed on Nairaland a fighter pilot don't know the machine he is flying and he kabe1 knows better. Well thank God I have enough sense to know you have just made a full time mockery of yourself before the whole world. Therefore your assertion is not only wrong, amateurish, ignoble, ignorant but patently irrelevant and of no consequence. You can accept what works in your world to sleep.

That fighter pilot migrated from the F7-Ni to the JF-17N Thunder and knows exactly what he is saying without mincing words and I believe him totally. When you graduate first from basic flying and prove it then I'll listen to you. Right now you are nothing more than just an internet military enthusiast who is ignorant.

fabselad:


LOL you amaze me bro. hahahah. So a pilot can't make a mistake due to being carried away by the euphoria of the ceremony. Some is telling you a the only JF17 considered as Gen 4.5 is block 3 not block 2 and you still argue. the only block 3 manufactured is still been tested. Show which article would call a JF17 block 2 a 4.5 gen aircraft. Soon you would start comparing those JF17s with SAAF SAAB Gripen.LOL

Hennynitan:

Hmmmmm... So should we believe kabe or the Nigerian air force pilot that is flying the jet?
If the pilot is wrong then it's a disgrace to the air force that its pilot don't know the type of aircraft he was trained to fly. Like that should be a basic 101 knowledge in his training course for this jet

Covert1:


The basics of that is what the fighter pilot just told you. AESA in lay mans terms simply means more difficult to counter and detect doesn't mean multi-mode doppler radar is any less effective in air superiority warfare.

The Pakistanis came up with an upper hand recently in aerial combat with the Indians.

kabe1:


Stop trying to be smart by half.

You claimed NAF did not show cockpit and MFD.

I proved this was false, you're now shifting goal post.

kabe1:


The Block II JF-17 and SAAB Gripen C/D are in the same class.

Light weight and 4 GEN.