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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Donsheddyguru: 11:11pm On May 27, 2021
ItzProspero:



Supported.

Some focus on pips, some on risk.

Let the rules accommodate all pls

Exactly my point
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Theyoungmaster(m): 11:19pm On May 27, 2021
ItzProspero:



Supported.

Some focus on pips, some on risk.

Let the rules accommodate all pls
Donsheddyguru:


Exactly my point

A good trader focuses on both. They are complementary. No need for the split. The contest is all about making good traders out of all contestants. You need to be good at risk management and pips making to be considered a good trader.


I come in peace.
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by infofirst(m): 11:23pm On May 27, 2021
Donsheddyguru:


Like I said...
Using pips alone to judge won't stop over trading....
Someone can decide to use 0.01 lots size and at the same time open too many positions....
Thereby risking too much too

Someone can decide to but then there is the restriction of max of 0.05lots for everybody. So its left for you to used up all 0.05lots or not. As a matter of fact, those that scalp open more trades than those after pips. So if you are good in either. You end up with brilliant result.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Donsheddyguru: 11:26pm On May 27, 2021
Theyoungmaster:


A good trader focuses on both. They are complementary. No need for the split. The contest is all about making good traders out of all contestants. You need to be good at risk management and pips making to be considered a good trader.


I come in peace.

Risk management is everything...
If you can't manage your risk then I don't know....
Risk management isn't all about using small lot size like I said it varies....
Risk management means knowing when to enter the market and when to jump out....
How much loss you're will to absorb....
One can make a million pips and still blow his account...
While some one else can make just 10 pips and still be profitable....
It varies....
Some people have the patient to see out a trade till the last minute, while some don't have that patience ....
It varies that's why we have scalpers, swing trader's, day trader's....
That's why we also have different tf to accommodate everyone...
At the end of the day no matter your style of trading...
If you're good you will always be profitable...

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Donsheddyguru: 11:28pm On May 27, 2021
infofirst:


Someone can decide to but then there is the restriction of max of 0.05lots for everybody. So its left for you to used up all 0.05lots or not. As a matter of fact, those that scalp open more trades than those after pips. So if you are good in either. You end up with brilliant result.

This one makes sense....
Minus me oh...
I'm sure theyoungmaster takes more trade than I do...
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Theyoungmaster(m): 11:53pm On May 27, 2021
Donsheddyguru:


This one makes sense....
Minus me oh...
I'm sure theyoungmaster takes more trade than I do...

Not at all. I barely placed above 3-4 trades each day and there were several days I didn't even trade at all. I trade the contest account like it was a real account.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Theyoungmaster(m): 11:59pm On May 27, 2021
Donsheddyguru:


Risk management is everything...
If you can't manage your risk then I don't know....
Risk management isn't all about using small lot size like I said it varies....
Risk management means knowing when to enter the market and when to jump out....
How much loss you're will to absorb....
One can make a million pips and still blow his account...
While some one else can make just 10 pips and still be profitable....
It varies....
Some people have the patient to see out a trade till the last minute, while some don't have that patience ....
It varies that's why we have scalpers, swing trader's, day trader's....
That's why we also have different tf to accommodate everyone...
At the end of the day no matter your style of trading...
If you're good you will always be profitable...

I get your point. Thing is the maximum 0.01 lot size as recommended by boss @infofirst will make sure everyone is on a level playing field as regards risk management and pips making. It wouldn't be fair to me if I'm trading 0.01 lots all along to make say $10 from 100pips while another person is trading 0.1 lots to make same $10 from just 10pips. I'm already at a disadvantage. If we all trade 0.01 with max open order of 5 positions, then anyone who tops the contest must have managed risk properly, made the highest pips and also had the commensurate highest profit to go with it. It's killing 3 birds with one stone.


I strongly support.

Wo, make i go read. Exam's knocking. Pip count and value wouldn't matter in heaven.


Over and out.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Nobody: 3:47am On May 28, 2021
Daily boss

Elliotwaveforec:


Please, the TF of the chart, daily or 4 hours?
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Nobody: 3:52am On May 28, 2021
Oh boss, I just dey catch up with posts and saw you replied him already...thanks.

docus:

Daily
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Nobody: 6:15am On May 28, 2021
Theyoungmaster:


I get your point. Thing is the maximum 0.01 lot size as recommended by boss @infofirst will make sure everyone is on a level playing field as regards risk management and pips making. It wouldn't be fair to me if I'm trading 0.01 lots all along to make say $10 from 100pips while another person is trading 0.1 lots to make same $10 from just 10pips. I'm already at a disadvantage. If we all trade 0.01 with max open order of 5 positions, then anyone who tops the contest must have managed risk properly, made the highest pips and also had the commensurate highest profit to go with it. It's killing 3 birds with one stone.


I strongly support.

Wo, make i go read. Exam's knocking. Pip count and value wouldn't matter in heaven.


Over and out.

Exactly.
The limits on lot and maximum open order has introduced a reasonable fair play and discipline as well. I believe the organizer of the contest has an aim which the current status quo is not achieving.
There is a positive side to this new rule, people will now be forced to vet their trades properly before placing them cause there is less room for error.
Personally, I do open upto 12 trades sometimes. Now it means I will have to wait for the best trades with sharper entries else I will forced to wait a longer time for profit to be made. So it's a good thing. This conditions if maintained for 6months will produce far better traders than the current conditions. It will also make us know that with such conditions someone can actually make a decent profit.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by haryodehjia(m): 6:25am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:



Boss can the DD rule be reduce to 5% too since we are reducing the lot size?

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Skanas(m): 7:12am On May 28, 2021
Theyoungmaster:


I get your point. Thing is the maximum 0.01 lot size as recommended by boss @infofirst will make sure everyone is on a level playing field as regards risk management and pips making. It wouldn't be fair to me if I'm trading 0.01 lots all along to make say $10 from 100pips while another person is trading 0.1 lots to make same $10 from just 10pips. I'm already at a disadvantage. If we all trade 0.01 with max open order of 5 positions, then anyone who tops the contest must have managed risk properly, made the highest pips and also had the commensurate highest profit to go with it. It's killing 3 birds with one stone.


I strongly support.

Wo, make i go read. Exam's knocking. Pip count and value wouldn't matter in heaven.


Over and out.

Aptly stated....

... that 0.01can trigger emotions and test your patience badly...

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Theyoungmaster(m): 7:13am On May 28, 2021
NetValueFX:


Exactly.
The limits on lot and maximum open order has introduced a reasonable fair play and discipline as well. I believe the organizer of the contest has an aim which the current status quo is not achieving.
There is a positive side to this new rule, people will now be forced to vet their trades properly before placing them cause there is less room for error.
Personally, I do open upto 12 trades sometimes. Now it means I will have to wait for the best trades with sharper entries else I will forced to wait a longer time for profit to be made. So it's a good thing. This conditions if maintained for 6months will produce far better traders than the current conditions. It will also make us know that with such conditions someone can actually make a decent profit.

On point. You've said it all. Tuale.


haryodehjia:


Boss can the DD rule be reduce to 5% too since we are reducing the lot size?

Ahhh! Kuku kill us, we are your Boko Haram. grin grin grin
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by infofirst(m): 7:13am On May 28, 2021
haryodehjia:


Boss can the DD rule be reduce to 5% too since we are reducing the lot size?

That will be too low.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by infofirst(m): 7:35am On May 28, 2021
who is @jerryson1. Trying to find the username here but no result.
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by infofirst(m): 7:49am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:
who is @jerryson1. Trying to find the username here but no result.

Some folks made vetting of the contest this time a punishment for me.
Floating rules when the first request was for us to read the rules. Some one traded with an account used for trading since February with $5000 balance. Some still used pin to secure their accounts. Some restricted access when we are trying to ensure fairness to all. At least everyone can see winners are picked with no biasness.
Someone traded with two different contest name and that folks has two different fta monikers as well. I am not calling him now but I am watching. He did same in last contest as well. Some used numbers and some changed their username to number after recording losses or disqualification.
I am pleading, kindly read the rules and ask questions if its not clear. This way I will not have to go through stress to pick winners. This can delay award of prizes and It can make me to stop the contest when I am too busy.
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by charly20(m): 7:51am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:



We improved after detecting issues. In the next contest, we will return to only currency pairs and total max lot size that can be traded will be 0.05. And every position must be 0.01 lot size. pips making is the goal not high returns with minimal pips making.

Thank you boss Mi. I will ensure I check every trades of those to be rewarded in the current contest

This is the best thing I've heard all week... I hold on to trades for days but when I see how other contestants are making huge returns with minimal pips and large lot sizes, I begin to feel oppressed and less confident in my style... since five months one thing I still struggle with is the"newbie-trigger happy syndrome" (lol) which to me is more influenced when I see contestants making huge returns with small pips and large lots

I want to learn, make una help me learn please.
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by charly20(m): 7:54am On May 28, 2021
Theyoungmaster:


Yes o! I made a whooping 787pips yet I'm languishing at 9th all because I trade mostly 0.01 to 0.03lot sizes while the new topper made just 208pips. Pips made should be the benchmark. Not going in with outrageous lot sizes.

It's well.


Modified; In this current contest, My pip count is higher than every other person whose account is open to access....aside @Seunesco. Y'all be making me feel I was a bad trader with huge lot sizes. SMH.

Not only you bro.... Not only you
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by charly20(m): 7:56am On May 28, 2021
Elliotwaveforec:


I dey tell you, after 2 weeks.

Something tells me it's a fakeout
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by infofirst(m): 8:01am On May 28, 2021
^ Learn to take positive lessons from the contest and do not be intimidated.
Just because of @mayork2n trading style in this contest period. I was motivated and decided to trade ustec and us30 and see attached what I achieved on that. And this is just a set aside live account.
When life throws lemon at you, my boss, make lemonade out of it.

@last contest. The most valuable trader @jbinary AKA @ilovebigyansh made me to trade 98% 0.01 lot in this contest period and infact made me reduce my risk in my live accounts. That should be the essence of this contest. Learning and unlearning. If there is anything to learn in this contest period, it is that money management is single most important. When you miss money management, you will lose money and this will bring doubt into your strategy and mess your psychology for days. Why wont you then better start trading responsibly.

This contest most valuable trader is @Seunisco. He did a good job harvesting this pips. @Theyoungmaster did good too. @infofirst no relent as well.
Our number one this week @qpetz did fantastic job as well. It is one thing to lead and another to maintain it.
@mayork2n. Thanks for that good run as well. I hope you wilk come and tell us the gist in full. How it started and what caused the last minute hitch and your advice for upcoming traders like me

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by jerryson1: 8:09am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:
who is @jerryson1. Trying to find the username here but no result.
jerryson1:
Eurusd buy stop ... 1.2230
TP 1.... 1.2220
Tp 2.... 1.2245
I'm here boss
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by infofirst(m): 8:12am On May 28, 2021
jerryson1:

I'm here boss

Thanks boss mi. Tell me one reason why I should not doubt you have purposely open this moniker for this contest and that you have another moniker here. Your moniker is so new and gbam you found this thread. I want to learn o.


@theyoda what is your thought?
Patience

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by jerryson1: 8:20am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:


Thanks boss mi. Tell me one reason why I should not doubt you have purposely open this moniker for this contest and that you have another moniker here. Your moniker is so new and gbam you found this thread. I want to learn o.


@theyoda what is your thought?
Patience
Lol. Yes boss i actually did but i don't have another moniker here. Ive bin following this thread for a while as a guest and only recently decided to open an account and join the contest. Just looking to improve my trading journey
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by WallStreetfx(m): 8:28am On May 28, 2021
TheYoda:
And alot of things to learn here with Mayor account, that type of strategy is very dangerous, if you don't have stop loss, and you are scalping.

He took him 7-9 days to get those gains BUT just 1 day, he's got -$500 floating loss. You see how much 1 bad day set him back to?

You can even have 60 days profitable day but if 1 bad day is going to kill you. You don't need anybody to tell you, you have to change something. Maybe use equity stop loss, say you have -5% in a day , you should close all trade, close mt4.

I'm sayin this because I've been there, done that, rake up many wins, 90 days of good trading, about 92win rate until I got a bad day, blew half my account. Thats not the main problem , but the psychological damage and emotional toll .

Well enough said.

They won't hear bro. let them learn the hard way. Learning Forex the hard way is the best way. It is going to reset that your brain 4 u. Have also been there grin grin grin
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Shevychen2: 8:47am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:


Thanks boss mi. Tell me one reason why I should not doubt you have purposely open this moniker for this contest and that you have another moniker here. Your moniker is so new and gbam you found this thread. I want to learn o.


@theyoda what is your thought?
Patience
Glad to see the new rules you're adding. It will feel less like you just dashing gamblers money that way. Left for me, it's only one year contest I will be doing. grin

To further entrench the lessons you're teaching, consider making the duration at least one month even with these your new rules.

As for people creating multiple accounts, we all know the truth. Again, you can avoid that by only allowing user names that have been around for at least three months and have decent number of contributions here. Afterall you started this to make the forum busy.

Any new user account created since you started this contest and the person rarely posts is owned by an old member. Maybe not all, but definitely sure of 90%. Nigerians know how to frustrate good will. Which is why I always cut cap for people like you. Well done boss.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Nobody: 9:08am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:


Some folks made vetting of the contest this time a punishment for me.
Floating rules when the first request was for us to read the rules. Some one traded with an account used for trading since February with $5000 balance. Some still used pin to secure their accounts. Some restricted access when we are trying to ensure fairness to all. At least everyone can see winners are picked with no biasness.
Someone traded with two different contest name and that folks has two different fta monikers as well. I am not calling him now but I am watching. He did same in last contest as well. Some used numbers and some changed their username to number after recording losses or disqualification.
I am pleading, kindly read the rules and ask questions if its not clear. This way I will not have to go through stress to pick winners. This can delay award of prizes and It can make me to stop the contest when I am too busy.



Too much of everything is bad as it has become evident now, some people just come here for the competition money and hence have started exploiting it. I think you should take a rest boss, people are way too engulfed in this competition matter even though it has helped some.
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Skanas(m): 9:09am On May 28, 2021
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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Theyoungmaster(m): 9:17am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:
^ Learn to take positive lessons from the contest and do not be intimidated.
Just because of @mayork2n trading style in this contest period. I was motivated and decided to trade ustec and us30 and see attached what I achieved on that. And this is just a set aside live account.
When life throws lemon at you, my boss, make lemonade out of it.

@last contest. The most valuable trader @jbinary AKA @ilovebigyansh made me to trade 98% 0.01 lot in this contest period and infact made me reduce my risk in my live accounts. That should be the essence of this contest. Learning and unlearning. If there is anything to learn in this contest period, it is that money management is single most important. When you miss money management, you will lose money and this will bring doubt into your strategy and mess your psychology for days. Why wont you then better start trading responsibly.

This contest most valuable trader is @Seunisco. He did a good job harvesting this pips. @Theyoungmaster did good too. @infofirst no relent as well.
Our number one this week @qpetz did fantastic job as well. It is one thing to lead and another to maintain it.
@mayork2n. Thanks for that good run as well. I hope you wilk come and tell us the gist in full. How it started and what caused the last minute hitch and your advice for upcoming traders like me


Thanks for the mention. Still an upcoming newbie learning the ropes.
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by rchwiz: 9:21am On May 28, 2021
XAUTrader4L:



Too much of everything is bad as it has become evident now, some people just come here for the competition money and hence have started exploiting it. I think you should take a rest boss, people are way too engulfed in this competition matter even though it has helped some.

Pls keep qwayet
Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Nobody: 9:30am On May 28, 2021
It seems every now & then we want something changed in the trading rules.

It's like sharpening a pencil, you get to a point where it's already good but you keep going till it becomes redundant.

@infofirst you've been doing a good job, I applaud your ability managing people & situations.

Let's give everyone a fair chance to trade, you can't force anyone to learn risk management.

We are all here to learn & become better traders. (Those trying to play the system well na dem sabi, at the end infofirst won't keep doing this forever, you'll be left to apply what you've learnt here).

I suggest we go back to the initial trading rules but with the current risk parameter (10% DD).

And to combat this issue of regular complaints on the rules, let's stick to a system of rules for a trading quarter or less.

Every q/q ending we can then revisit said complaints.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Mayork2(m): 9:44am On May 28, 2021
infofirst:
^ Learn to take positive lessons from the contest and do not be intimidated.
Just because of @mayork2n trading style in this contest period. I was motivated and decided to trade ustec and us30 and see attached what I achieved on that. And this is just a set aside live account.
When life throws lemon at you, my boss, make lemonade out of it.

@last contest. The most valuable trader @jbinary AKA @ilovebigyansh made me to trade 98% 0.01 lot in this contest period and infact made me reduce my risk in my live accounts. That should be the essence of this contest. Learning and unlearning. If there is anything to learn in this contest period, it is that money management is single most important. When you miss money management, you will lose money and this will bring doubt into your strategy and mess your psychology for days. Why wont you then better start trading responsibly.

This contest most valuable trader is @Seunisco. He did a good job harvesting this pips. @Theyoungmaster did good too. @infofirst no relent as well.
Our number one this week @qpetz did fantastic job as well. It is one thing to lead and another to maintain it.
@mayork2n. Thanks for that good run as well. I hope you wilk come and tell us the gist in full. How it started and what caused the last minute hitch and your advice for upcoming traders like me
good morning bosses I was actually on transit yesterday so I couldn't concentrate well as a result I bought us30 at the top when it had moved about 400 points, this was actually against my strategy because the market is bound to retrace after making such heavy move up,my advice is that no matter how much trust you have in your strategy do not force trades.

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Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 21 by Elliotwaveforec: 9:49am On May 28, 2021
Mayork2:
good morning bosses I was actually on transit yesterday so I couldn't concentrate well as a result I bought us30 at the top when it had moved about 400 points, this was actually against my strategy because the market is bound to retrace after making such heavy move up,my advice is that no matter how much trust you have in your strategy do not force trades.

Correct!

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