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Kobojunkie:
So you tell me why you bind and loose demons and witches next.

To stop their evil operations and oppressions in ones life. And it works. lol..

CharisEleos:
To stop their evil operations and oppressions in ones life. And it works. lol..

But Jesus Christ never said anything about binding or losing them. An example of Loosing as used in scripture is found in Isaiah 58 vs 6, where God commands that instead of starving ourselves, we can instead do good works, including that on our days of fasting.

From Jesus Christ's examples, the only thing you can do is cast them out of a one, but problem is if the one you cast them out of remains an empty vessel, they are bound to return with reinforcement.

And this leads me to asking this... are you sure you are better off ever since you started binding and casting demons out of, I guess l, your life? The one thing I have noticed of those who cling to the idea that there lives are plagued by demons and enemies is that they never are able to completely rid themselves of them. An endless game of whack-a-mole it seems. Just my observation.

Kobojunkie:
But Jesus Christ never said anything about binding or losing them. An example of Loosing as used in scripture is found in Isaiah 58 vs 6, where God commands that instead of starving ourselves, we can instead do good works, including that on our days of fasting.

From Jesus Christ's examples, the only thing you can do is cast them out of a one, but problem is if the one you cast them out of remains an empty vessel, they are bound to return with reinforcement.

And this leads me to asking this... are you sure you are better off ever since you started binding and casting demons out of, I guess l, your life? The one thing I have noticed of those who cling to the idea that there lives are plagued by demons and enemies is that they never are able to completely rid themselves of them. An endless game of whack-a-mole it seems. Just my observation.

Yes I'm better off or what do you want me to say? Besides I'm not possessed of any demons.

I only bind and cast them out of the way anytime I'm having hitches in any of my endeavors.

I also don't go about loosening demons. Nobody does that!

CharisEleos:
Yes I'm better off or what do you want me to say? Besides I'm not possessed of any demons.

I only bind and cast them out of the way anytime I'm having hitches in any of my endeavors.

I also don't go about loosening demons. Nobody does that!

Well, you can't bind demons either. And from what you describe, it is already as I suspected - a game of whack-a-mole for you as it seems you have had to "bind and cast" more than one in your endeavors. It never seems to be a once-and-for-all thing is it?

Kobojunkie:
Well, you can't bind demons either. And from what you describe, it is already as I suspected - a game of whack-a-mole for you as it seems you have had to "bind and cast" more than one in your endeavors. It never seems to be a once-and-for-all thing is it?

So? What are you tryna say?
That it's pointless if I can't do it once and for all?

CharisEleos:
So? What are you tryna say?
That it's pointless if I can't do it once and for all?

Trying to understand what gain there is in seeing demons and enemies everywhere as opposed to only seeing them where and when there really is one to see, and that is almost never in the lives of a majority.

Of all those who were healed by Jesus Christ, only a handful had demons cast out of them. So ever asked yourself why you, in your own life, seem to have so many of them seemingly after you and you alone?

Recall what Jesus Christ said about the casting out of a demon... that if done and the space remains empty, that the demon that had been cast out is likely to return but with even more powerful reinforcements. So let's say a person had just one demon but this person decided to enroll in these casting and binding sessions without real grounding in the teachings of God, do you realize that person is likely to end up worse than when he began, and this according to Jesus Christ Himself.

Kobojunkie:
Trying to understand what gain there is in seeing demons and enemies everywhere as opposed to only seeing them where and when there really is one to see, and that is almost never in the lives of a majority.

Of all those who were healed by Jesus Christ, only a handful had demons cast out of them. So ever asked yourself why you, in your own life, seem to have so many of them seemingly after you and you alone?

Recall what Jesus Christ said about the casting out of a demon... that if done and the space remains empty, that the demon that had been cast out is likely to return but with even more powerful reinforcements. So let's say a person had just one demon but this person decided to enroll in these casting and binding sessions without real grounding in the teachings of God, do you realize that person is likely to end up worse than when he began, and this according to Jesus Christ Himself.

Kobojunkie, I nor get demon and I'm not casting demons out of my body. I said out of the way.

By the way, why are you soliciting for demons?
Let's forget about this demon talk abeg. I'm not about magnifying their existence. I'm for Jesus' gospel.

CharisEleos:
Kobojunkie, I nor get demon and I'm not casting demons out of my body. I said out of the way.

By the way, why are you soliciting for demons?
Let's forget about this demon talk abeg. I'm not about magnifying their existence. I'm for Jesus' gospel.

Well, how can they be in your way when the kind of evil spirits Jesus Christ cast out by His power, and according to Jesus Christ's description of them, inhabit persons and not things - Matthew 12 vs 43-45
Are you certain that what you believe there of demons have to do with Jesus Christ's gospel at all? He certainly didn't teach or demons of water or air or even plastic... but demons, and spirits which invaded the lives of persons.

enilove:
Deuteronomy 21:20 KJV
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

For a child to be stubborn and rebellious he is a witch and can die at any time even if the parents can't kill him or don't want him dead.

Rebellion is witchcrafts .

Exodus 20:12 KJV
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

Whether old or new testament , God's commandments still stand and must be obeyed.
Although people may not punishment them according to the Bible , the demons can use this as a ladder to attack them and cut short their lives .

Brother....you're not making sense. You asked me to you where stubborn kids are to be stoned to death and I did...so now what? Go and or teach another do do so whenever their kids disobey.

The truth is YOU ARE CHERY PICKING THE BIBLE WHENEVER IT SUIT OR OKAY FOR YOU

Goshen360:
Brother....you're not making sense. You asked me to you where stubborn kids are to be stoned to death and I did...so now what? Go and or teach another do do so whenever their kids disobey.

The truth is YOU ARE CHERY PICKING THE BIBLE WHENEVER IT SUIT OR OKAY FOR YOU

You are the one not making any sense at all and your problem is LACK OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD'S WORDS.

BELOW IS WHAT YOU POSTED :

''Why don't you ALSO STONE YOUR CHILDREN TO DEATH WHENEVER THEY DON'T LISTEN TO YOU? Isn't that in the law of Moses too....many things in the law of Moses YO
U DO today and YOU SHOULD BE STONED TO DEATH TOO....how about that? ''

When I asked for the Law of Moses that stipulated that , you gave me the scripture below :

Deuteronomy 21:20 KJV
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

You said ,'' whenever they don't listen to you'' .

Whenever they don't means '' anytime they don't listen to you''.

Is that what the above scripture says ? Is the child to be stoned anytime they don't listen to their parents?

It is when a child has developed an OBSTINATE nature and refuses to listen that it will become an act of stubbornness.

Children occasionally will not listen to what their parents are saying , that does not make them stubborn. When you correct them , they will change.
God did not tell you not to correct your children.

It is sad thing that after your years of reading the Bible you still view God as a wicked God who will ask parents to kill their children for acts of
occasional disobedience .

The Bible gives room for you to correct you children thus :

Proverbs 22:15 KJV
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 22:6 KJV
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

enilove:
I believe in the name of Jesus Christ the Son of the living God.
If you don't believe his name , that is between you and God. God knows those who are His and those who believe in His name.

2) I did not say the disciples of Jesus received blood of Jesus .I said they believed in the blood of Jesus and still needed to be baptised with the Holy Spirit.

3) Why was there no Baptism of the Holy Spirit in the old testament ?

Why did John not receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit ?

Were those who received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in the new testament Jehovah witnesses ?

1.
Do you have proof for your FALSE accusation?

2.

Ok. Noted.

3.
Jehovah's arrangement for heavenly life did not include His servants in the old testament, and John the Baptizer. David, Abel etc. Matthew 11:11, John3:13 ,Acts 2:34.
The disciples received baptism of holy spirit @ Pentecost.

Yes.
But not all of them had baptism of holy spirit.

Matthew 12:15-20, Acts 3:13. Acts15:14 & Isaiah 43:10-12,21, John 9:4. Jesus and the disciples are Jehovah's Witnesses.
Matthew 5:3,5 Jesus Christ says those for heavenly life are priests to serve his God & Father. Revelation 1:5-6.
Revelation 14:1-3, their number is sealed,
144 ,000 priests, co-rulers with Jesus Christ.
God's kingdom is God's righteous government under Christ rulership.


Other righteous ones would inherit the earth & live forever. Matthew 5:5, Revelation 21:1-5. Matthew 6:9-10. 2 Pet 3:13.
Psalm 37:29.