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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:27pm On Jun 19, 2021
This is an SOS.

Few hours ago, 24v 2000 Watts PSW turned off having been running hot because the fan apparel tly stopped working.

I immediately turned it on again successfully but then touched the case to note that is was hot. So I turned it off again and tended to the fan with a new spare.

Ever since, I've tried to turn it back on very very unsuccessfully. So I guess it's crapped out on me.

Getting another one is the alternative, but I will need a stop gap for the two weeks shipping to have another one arrive.

Please I beg I beg, is there anyone here with a spare 24v PSW that I can use for just two weeks till the new arrival? cheesy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Polaris1: 7:07pm On Jun 19, 2021
ceaser:
This is an SOS.
I'd love to help.
Sadly I have a 12v PSW, 1,000va 'Souer brand" cry

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 7:44pm On Jun 19, 2021
Thanks for taking your time to explain, I will reach out for more clarification.

OCTAVO:

AliExpress, I think a little above 5k.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_ms5kfPP

I integrated Google Assistant, and it works quite well even with voice command.
Also, you can set your desired kind of weather or temperature automation. It will Geo-locate the address of device and use available weather forecast to switch ON/OFF, depending on how you want it.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 7:49pm On Jun 19, 2021
Still new to this automation, but I will keep the house updated on how the step goes

litaninja:
olopan OCTAVO ojeysky Barezzi
Lol. +1 for tasmota on sonoff devices with nodered, especially the ones with the power monitoring which will allow automations based on your consumption / solar production for example. Not really one for voice commands via alexa / google assistant / siri etc...but i believe you can also add this via nodered or Home Assistant.
Interface via a telegram bot / the home assistant app through a private cloud and everything is vely vely hallright. tongue
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 8:22pm On Jun 19, 2021
The 1st carton is one of their latest product, but ensure you buying from the source as not to be defrauded
Godliftedme:
Good morning All.
To the people wey sabi, make una help us get value for money.
I have been seeing these variants of Amaron Quanta batteries; are all genuine product from Amara Raja of India or some are imitation.
Which one is the best for Renewable energy storage system.
See the four pictures below, Sellers in the house, experienced installers and great DIYers help in solving this riddle?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 8:36pm On Jun 19, 2021
These setting a Okay,

If your inverter doesn't have auto equalization, use 30V
xfay:
House pls what are the recommended settings for genus gxct2300 flooded battery in a 24V system.

These are the setting I currently use

Current: 30A
Bulk Voltage:28.8V
Float Voltage: 27.6

Strictly off-grid
350w X 4 solar panels to be extended to 8 later
Sorotec 3KV hybrid

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Godliftedme: 8:57pm On Jun 19, 2021
wilmaria14:
go for d second one in d picture
Thanks for your advise. One has to be sure with the current cost of the batteries.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Godliftedme: 8:59pm On Jun 19, 2021
olopan:
The 1st carton is one of their latest product, but ensure you buying from the source as not to be defrauded
Thanks brother, the rules of the game is to open one's eye due to the current cost of the RE products.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigbauer(m): 9:51pm On Jun 19, 2021
Please who has used or knows about Prag 2KVA,TM-2000VA (95V-270V), Relay AC Automatic Voltage Regulator (Stabilizer)? Is it a good product?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 12:01am On Jun 20, 2021
Polaris1:

I'd love to help.
Sadly I have a 12v PSW, 1,000va 'Souer brand" cry

Okay. Thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by xfay(m): 6:34am On Jun 20, 2021
Do you mean 30v periodically as a substitute for equalisation? or 30V constantly to avoid the need for equalisation...

olopan:
These setting a Okay,

If your inverter doesn't have auto equalization, use 30V
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:13am On Jun 20, 2021
OCTAVO:
This first device (picture attached), is very fantastic and gets the basic job done, however, it has a limitation which is quite worrisome. When you program it to power on at a certain time and you leave home, weather can suddenly become cloudy or even rain for hours and your batteries will be depleted seriously (which you may not want) because of unavailability of sunlight.
This made me to think of a better alternative that gives one more control, preferably can be done remotely anywhere (I'm a fan of home automation). After an extensive search, I came across the second device (picture attached). This device gives my kind of desired control, all you need do is to sync it with a dedicated home router. It's called SMART PLUG and works with other home automation apps such as Alexa and Google Assistant. This is more preferable, you can get everything done on your phone, it has a programmable timer also, instant ON/OFF anywhere you are in the world. Someone may find this useful.

I have both currently deployed for use. They have their limitations.

The timer

With use over time has revealed that the internal clock algorithm lacks daylight savings. So at the end of about six months of continuous use, the time may have lagged behind or moved ahead by as much as 20 minutes. This will affect your on-off timing. So you will have to set the correct time again. You can set as much as 10 on-off cycles per day, I think.

It has no wireless or remote monitoring capability so you will have to be there if you need to be on site to turn it off manually.

It comes standard as 16 amps.

The advantage is for those that do not have wireless router system in their homes or for those with very unstable network like I experienced early this year.

The smart plug

Setting it up is easy

This has the advantage of remote (anywhere on the globe) as long as it is connected to a WiFi router. It uses simple apps that are fortunately usually compatible across platforms. "Smart home, Tuya etc are a few of the android/apple compatible apps that it works with. I went with neither of the two, so my choice was" smart life" app. I subsequently integrated the "smart life" app with "smart things" - proprietary samsung smart app - on my mobile phone so that I can control things via Bixby, just like you would with Alexa, Google etc. You can also do local (WiFi direct) connection between it and your phone without a router, but you will be limited to just a few meters (around 300 meters) apart.

With the smart plug, you can also set as many on-off cycles as you want all on your phone while connected to the device. Device comes mostly in 10 amps and 15amps support. I aimed to get the type that will also give you real time power consumption of the plugged in gadget on your phone but unfortunately got sent the one without that capability. So you might wanna look out to be sure.

Yes it has integration with the weather app on your phone (this will require you to turn on location in your mobile phone - something I'm aversed to). With the weather, you can program it to turn off when the sun won't be high. I don't see this capability as fool proof because solar charging could be faster even in cooler weather than in very hot/sunny weather.

Another challenge I experienced is the signal downtimes when our networks bring their wàhálà and you need to turn it off remotely as an emergency, then you rill be stuck, helpless.

You also can't use the SoC of your battery to control the switch status.

Having tried the two, I am planning to DIY something that will be able to use SoC as well as wireless and remote capability. Nothing close to Tasmota but one that will need no servers (local or cloud) whatsoever and the wireless communications will be only between the battery SoC and the switching device. I am gathering the components presently. The smart plug and timer can as well be connected as a secondary in-between plug and play if their services will be required.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 8:03am On Jun 20, 2021
YES as substitute for equalization if the setting is absent in your inverter

I will strongly advise against using 30V as cyclic voltage as it will wear and tear your lead plates faster than its expected

xfay:
Do you mean 30v periodically as a substitute for equalisation? or 30V constantly to avoid the need for equalisation...

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 8:08am On Jun 20, 2021
Kindly keep us posted, this is looking interesting
ceaser:



Having tried the two, I am planning to DIY something that will be able to use SoC as well as wireless and remote capability. Nothing close to Tasmota but one that will need no servers (local or cloud) whatsoever and the wireless communications will be only between the battery SoC and the switching device. I am gathering the components presently.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shawnmich: 9:55am On Jun 20, 2021
Good day, experts and gurus in the house. I salute ya.
I want to ask for which battery brand is good in the market, can anyone list China and Indian battery brand that is good and can hold charge very well with life span around 2-5 years. Please list them for me both China and Indian battery. Before I use to buy GLT and zidex China brand (2 years life span) but not in the market anymore, anyone have a reliable brand like that, that is affordable. Please let me know the aggregate life span from your experience.
Thanks in advance
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 9:58am On Jun 20, 2021
shawnmich:
Good day, experts and gurus in the house. I salute ya.
I want to ask for which battery brand is good in the market, can anyone list China and Indian battery brand that is good and can hold charge very well with life span around 2-5 years. Please list them for me both China and Indian battery. Before I use to buy GLT and zidex China brand (2 years life span) but not in the market anymore, anyone have a reliable brand like that, that is affordable. Please let me know the aggregate life span from your experience.
Thanks in advance
cool Quanta or Monbat batteries
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 10:00am On Jun 20, 2021
olopan:
Kindly keep us posted, this is looking interesting

The idea is to use "battery protection meters" (It is a sacrosanct part of my set ups). The meters have adjustable voltage levels depending on the desired DoD voltage of the battery.

There are DC powered and AC powered wireless switches that use keyfobs as remote switches. The keyfobs are to be integrated with the meters so that instead of you yourself clicking on the keyfob to turn off each individual switch, the battery protection meter does it at your preset voltage level.

With this you can have a number of wireless keyfobs and the respective switches to control different appliances to turn off at the desired battery voltage.

The keyfobs have a range of about 300 meters to 500 meters. So you should be able to control as many appliances in the house within reasonable distance from the inverter/battery.

I think I should keep the juicy part till when I'm assembling it. I will definitely have questions and a few directions to ask from here by then.

By the way, I am still waiting for who will help with a 24v PSW inverter for about two weeks. It doesn't have to be something big, as the refridgerating devices to be powered are all inverter devices. Not even up to 600 watts total.

If it's also for sale for a little token, I won't mind. I just need to lay may hands on something before monday.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 10:01am On Jun 20, 2021
shawnmich:
Good day, experts and gurus in the house. I salute ya.
I want to ask for which battery brand is good in the market, can anyone list China and Indian battery brand that is good and can hold charge very well with life span around 2-5 years. Please list them for me both China and Indian battery. Before I use to buy GLT and zidex China brand (2 years life span) but not in the market anymore, anyone have a reliable brand like that, that is affordable. Please let me know the aggregate life span from your experience.
Thanks in advance
if funds is not a problem, then go for lithium lifepo4.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tetralogyfallot(m): 10:16am On Jun 20, 2021
This is just perfect cells for Lithium ion builders. It's just N250 per piece. 3.6v, 3000mah Samsung high drain 18650 cells. Chat me on 08034694579

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shawnmich: 10:16am On Jun 20, 2021
Ok are they indian battery or china battery?
Thanks
DUNKA:
cool Quanta or Monbat batteries
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 10:16am On Jun 20, 2021
OCTAVO:

AliExpress, I think a little above 5k.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_ms5kfPP

I integrated Google Assistant, and it works quite well even with voice command.
Also, you can set your desired kind of weather or temperature automation. It will Geo-locate the address of device and use available weather forecast to switch ON/OFF, depending on how you want it.

I have all these features thru the smart life app too. The prolem is that it doesn't seem to have a "battery voltage level status" in the option menu.

Also I don't k know if there is any device in the purview of the tuya or sonoff that act as a sensor for battery voltage and can be integrated with the smart switches thru the app the way you will do with "smart temperature or humidity meters" that integrates with switches controlling HVAC on the app.

ojeysky:


I still have a few left for sale at 6.5k each and can flash tasmota for you if you want.

Can the devices also work with the smart life app? When tasmota is flashed, does it get rid of its ability to use "tuya, sonoff app, smart life app and other apps like that?

I may need some from you once I'm able to get my bearings with this lack of inverter.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tetralogyfallot(m): 10:17am On Jun 20, 2021
Have them in large quantity.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 10:26am On Jun 20, 2021
ceaser:


I have all these features thru the smart life app too. The prolem is that it doesn't seem to have a "battery voltage level status" in the option menu.

Also I don't k know if there is any device in the purview of the tuya or sonoff that act as a sensor for battery voltage and can be integrated with the smart switches thru the app the way you will do with "smart temperature or humidity meters" that integrates with switches controlling HVAC on the app.



Can the devices also work with the smart life app? When tasmota is flashed, does it get rid of its ability to use "tuya, sonoff app, smart life app and other apps like that?

I may need some from you once I'm able to get my bearings with this lack of inverter.

Tasmota is a whole different firmware from the stock version so yes sonoff app will not work with it, have not used tuya or smart life so don't know if those will work.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 10:48am On Jun 20, 2021
ineaghe:
Hello @Ceaser. I want to order a battery pack from the Jos guy whose number you dropped some pages back.

Can I trust him to deliver?

It's being over 5 months since í communicated with him last since I don't need battery in recent times. But all along he has been a reliable guy with good guarantee on the product. I think he offers one year full warranty. He has replaced a pack for me before without extra cost. The terminals were damaged during transport and he instructed I return it and he sent a replacement even before the one I sent back got to him.

You can trust him. My fear is if he will have stocks cos he usually sells out quickly. So you may have to quickly get in touch with him and in case he gives a date he will likely have cells, then you will need to do the follow up.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ineaghe(m): 11:35am On Jun 20, 2021
ceaser:


It's being over 5 months since í communicated with him last since I don't need battery in recent times. But all along he has been a reliable guy with good guarantee on the product. I think he offers one year full warranty. He has replaced a pack for me before without extra cost. The terminals were damaged during transport and he instructed I return it and he sent a replacement even before the one I sent back got to him.

You can trust him. My fear is if he will have stocks cos he usually sells out quickly. So you may have to quickly get in touch with him and in case he gives a date he will likely have cells, then you will need to do the follow up.

Thanks boss. I ordered from him a few days back and he delivered.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by stevebond007(m): 2:11pm On Jun 20, 2021
I hear it's not really necessary to put your solar panels on the roof.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 3:13pm On Jun 20, 2021
tetralogyfallot:
This is just perfect cells for LifePo4 builders. It's just N250 per piece. 3.6v, 3000mah Samsung high drain 18650 cells. Chat me on 08034694579

Not Lifepo4 na, are they new cells, this is good for powerbank.. or small powerwall.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 4:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
Dam5reey:


Not Lifepo4 na, are they new cells, this is good for powerbank.. or small powerwall.

If you browse previous pages on this thread you will be amazed at huge banks that people build off that. I hail patience of those folks but certainly don't envy them grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by IYGEAL(m): 4:48pm On Jun 20, 2021
stevebond007:
I hear it's not really necessary to put your solar panels on the roof.

Of course. But has to be somewhere safe for them, open to to the sun rays too.

So which place do you think? The roof of course or anything close, like the roof of car park.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Intelcorei7: 4:51pm On Jun 20, 2021
tetralogyfallot:
This is just perfect cells for LifePo4 builders. It's just N250 per piece. 3.6v, 3000mah Samsung high drain 18650 cells. Chat me on 08034694579
Building LiFePo4 battery with 18650 cells ? cheesy grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 5:44pm On Jun 20, 2021
Does genus heiwa 3.5kva/48v inverter have remote monitoring features?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 5:47pm On Jun 20, 2021
shawnmich:
Good day, experts and gurus in the house. I salute ya.
I want to ask for which battery brand is good in the market, can anyone list China and Indian battery brand that is good and can hold charge very well with life span around 2-5 years. Please list them for me both China and Indian battery. Before I use to buy GLT and zidex China brand (2 years life span) but not in the market anymore, anyone have a reliable brand like that, that is affordable. Please let me know the aggregate life span from your experience.
Thanks in advance

*Amaron Quanta (Indian)
*Mpower (Chinese)

Have personally trusted both for over 6 years now.
Kindly get from reliable source
Cheers

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