I have noticed this for sometime now.

Why is it that women are the most that give testimony in church compared to men? Or is it that the standard are very high for men?.

Also why is it women that fall mostly during deliverance?.

We don't talk. We testify with actions and quietly.

As for women falling during anointing you go wait to ask baba God O. Maybe transformers wey them install for their head dey quick blow

Men and women are shy and many of them don't make vows to come and give testimony esp in a big mega church
Many of them write their testimony and send or share in their bible study meetings
For the falling down, it's both men and women
Don't bother ur head on these unnecessary things, rather listen to all Apostle'joshua Selman messages on youtube everyday and obey the instructions

Men naturally don't talk too much

It's all for showing off and attention seeking.

You'd notice that despite all the testimonies it's the men that still contribute more in churches.

we don't lie and we will never lie.... know this and know peace...


testimonies = lies..

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we don't lie and we will never lie....
know this and know peace...



testimonies = lies..

Are you saying, most of the women testimonies ain't true?

Who falls under anointing more when pastor dey blow breeze?

Oksoluk10:


Are you saying, most of the women testimonies ain't true?

....not most mehn!....all the bullshit I mean 100% of them are all lies ....know this and know peace

Oksoluk10:
I have noticed this for sometime now.

Why is it that women are the most that give testimony in church compared to men? Or is it that the standard are very high for men?.

Also why is it women that fall mostly during deliverance?.

Men are mostly.people of few words. men resolve issues inside even die inside . but women are talkers and they are very expeessive . Men are too conscious


Men do.fall under the power . it depends on the case . The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God . Men can be rigid fighting God .
but if its a demonic case ..it manifest in men also.wjen being cast out. Tbe problem with men is just that they are very self conscoius some see it as weakness to fall amd see it as streght to stand so they will rather stand amd still retain their demon

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Men are mostly.people of few words. men resolve issues inside even die inside . but women are talkers and they are very expeessive . Men are too conscious


Men do.fall under the power . it depends on the case . The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God . Men can be rigid fighting God .
but if its a demonic case ..it manifest in men also.wjen being cast out. Tbe problem with men is just that they are very self conscoius some see it as weakness to fall amd see it as streght to stand so they will rather stand amd still retain their demon

Jo, you have come ohh.Open to God indeed. What has falling down got to do with being open to God?How many times did Jesus Christ or any Bible character fall to be open to God? Is pastor Chris open to God because i don't think you have ever seen him fall, Abi which kain criterion be this one? How many demon have you retained today, abi you sef fall yakata today?

Women are weak {1Peter 3:7} so it's easy for false prophets to manipulate them into deceiving others {Genesis 3:6} and mind you women can keep secrets most especially when they're into mischievous acts! Judges 16:1-20

Oksoluk10:

I have noticed this for sometime now.
Why is it that women are the most that give testimony in church compared to men? Or is it that the standard are very high for men?.
Also why is it women that fall mostly during deliverance?.

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Jo, you have come ohh.Open to God indeed. What has falling down got to do with being open to God?How many times did Jesus Christ or any Bible character fall to be open to God? Is

many times . didnt jesus fall at the garden?

1 Kings 8:11 (ASV)
11 so that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud; for the glory of Jehovah filled the house of Jehovah.

Mark 3:11 (NLT)
11 And whenever those possessed by evil spirits caught sight of him, the spirits would throw them to the ground in front of him shrieking, “You are the Son of God!”
Matthew 26:39 (KJV)
39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face,

its not about the fall . its about response to Gods spirit which ever way he moves us.

secondly there are differrnt kinds of fall. Spirit of God coukd move you personally or the power of God can move you while being ministered to by another

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many times . didnt jesus fall at the garden?

1 Kings 8:11 (ASV)
11 so that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud; for the glory of Jehovah filled the house of Jehovah.

Mark 3:11 (NLT)
11 And whenever those possessed by evil spirits caught sight of him, the spirits would throw them to the ground in front of him shrieking, “You are the Son of God!”
Matthew 26:39 (KJV)
39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face,

its not about the fall . its about response to Gods spirit which ever way he moves us.

secondly there are differrnt kinds of fall. Spirit of God coukd move you personally or the power of God can move you while being ministered to by another

None of the scriptures you quoted talks about falling under anointing to be open to God. These are people who consciously went prostrate before God in worship and prayer, not possessed people. You refused to answer, is pastor Chris open to God, have you seen him fall like a possessed person before?

Mat 26:39 KJV And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

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None of the scriptures you quoted talks about falling under anointing to be open to God.

I.didnt say they fall dow to open to God. its the openness to the spirit that cause men to fall . it depends on the eztent of their yieldedneds amd its not a must . but its a spiritual thing

These are people who consciously went prostrate before God in worship and prayer,,

The Priests went doen under the power and they couldn't get up.

[colour]1 Kings 8:11 (ASV)
11 so that the priests [b]could not [/b]stand to minister by reason of the cloud; for the glory of Jehovah filled the house of Jehovah[/quote]

the highlighted parts lets you know it wasnt delibrate . they rather wanted to get up to do their job but couldn't

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is pastor Chris open to God, have you seen him fall like a possessed person before?

No because hes not posesed . Christians don't get possesed. That doesnt mean he hasn't fallen down. when Morris cerrulo lay hands on him he fell down. at times in worship he falls down.

it doesnt have to connected to demons

[color=#770077]1 Samuel 19:24 (AMPC)
24 He took off his royal robes and prophesied before Samuel and lay down stripped thus all that day and night. So they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?

Mat 26:39 KJV And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.[/quote]

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I.didnt say they fall dow to open to God. its the openness to the spirit that cause men to fall . it depends on the eztent of their yieldedneds amd its not a must . but its a spiritual thing

You said and i quote "The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God ." You said this in the context of falling down. It is not openness of spirit that cause people to fall, stop saying things that are unverifiable and unscriptural. Tons of people were open to God in the Bible without any fall. We mostly see the possessed people falling in the Bible. There are thousands of people falling in churches every week and going right into all kinds of sin the same week and even day.

The Priests went doen under the power and they couldn't get up.

[colour]1 Kings 8:11 (ASV)
11 so that the priests [b]could not [/b]stand to minister by reason of the cloud; for the glory of Jehovah filled the house of Jehovah

the highlighted parts lets you know it wasnt delibrate . they rather wanted to get up to do their job but couldn't

They were very conscious and saw a visible cloud of glory. BTW, though i got your point and expected you to quote it, the priests were come out of the holy place. It's not that they fell, but more that they could not enter or stand or wait to minister.

, is pastor Chris open to God, have you seen him fall like a possessed person before?


No because hes not posesed . Christians don't get possesed. That doesnt mean he hasn't fallen down. when Morris cerrulo lay hands on him he fell down. at times in worship he falls down.

Good, because you claimed that it has to do with openness to God. In order words, pastor Chris is not usually open to God as he does not fall often. Just like once a year or a decade, right? The ones that fall every service and roll all over are very open, in fact direct to God's throne.

it doesnt have to connected to demons

[color=#770077]1 Samuel 19:24 (AMPC)
24 He took off his royal robes and prophesied before Samuel and lay down stripped thus all that day and night. So they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?

Are you saying Saul was more open than all the prophets, because even the real prophets from Moses to Malachi didn't go through this process, or did they? Shows clearly as a misnomer, not a norm.

Mat 26:39 KJV And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

This is not "falling under the anointing", but a very conscious prayer posture that anyone can take. Study your Bible and not the koran pastor.

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You said and i quote "The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God ." You said this in the context of falling down. It is not openness of spirit that cause people to fall, stop saying things that are unverifiable and unscriptural. Tons of people were open to God in the Bible without any fall. We mostly see the possessed people falling in the Bible. There are thousands of people falling in churches every week and going right into all kinds of sin the same week and even day.



They were very conscious and saw a visible cloud of glory. BTW, though i got your point and expected you to quote it, the priests were come out of the holy place. It's not that they fell, but more that they could not enter or stand or wait to minister.



Good, because you claimed that it has to do with openness to God. In order words, pastor Chris is not usually open to God as he does not fall often. Just like once a year or a decade, right? The ones that fall every service and roll all over are very open, in fact direct to God's throne.



Are you saying Saul was more open than all the prophets, because even the real prophets from Moses to Malachi didn't go through this process, or did they? Shows clearly as a misnomer, not a norm.



This is not "falling under the anointing", but a very conscious prayer posture that anyone can take. Study your Bible and not the koran pastor.

it is not arithmetic. Everybody experience differ. if youre not open to God he cantbfirce himself on you. and those who are open hearted dont necessarily have same experience. The rest deoends of God. One man gets birn again and he dies to addictions to drugs and drunkenness. the other gets birn again but still battling with desires and seeking deliverance.

one msn gets birn again and hes on fire. going out for evangelism, prayer meetings and reading bible everywhere and another gets born again you have to follow him up to ge regularin church. or to be discipline to pray and study . Its varirs in people

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it is not arithmetic. Everybody experience differ. if youre not open to God he cantbfirce himself on you. and those who are open hearted dont necessarily have same experience. The rest deoends of God. One man gets birn again and he dies to addictions to drugs and drunkenness. the other gets birn again but still battling with desires and seeking deliverance.

one msn gets birn again and hes on fire. going out for evangelism, prayer meetings and reading bible everywhere and another gets born again you have to follow him up to ge regularin church. or to be discipline to pray and study . Its varirs in people

Jo, if you are teaching, you have to be consistent, coherent, factual and scriptural. The above is none of that. i don't know the device that you are using but you should review your posts a bit, so many spelling mistakes that make for belaboured reading. i guess you are so lazy now you just feel like sending voice notes.
If you are teaching that falling down is a mark or measure of openness to God, there is no consistency with your pastor's experience or yours or mine. From facts and experience, it is the people "with problem", and possessed ones that consistently fall. The pastor in charge, his wife and family, his cameramen, his pickers do not fall. If they ever do, it is NOT the norm. Either you are saying that they are not open to God or not. You cannot come and claim diversity for consistency.
We both know that all human beings are different, unique and wonderfully made. This has nothing to do with your teaching that it is openness to God that makes people fall. Possessed people are the usual ones that fall, they are not more open to God. there are no records of any of the disciples of Jesus falling. Moses, Elijah, Samuel, Daniel, all these greatly anointed men were not falling, or they are not open enough? Don't cover up your goofs and traditions and wrong teachings. Grow and be renewed from the Word of God. All these private interpretation is not necessary.

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If you are teaching that falling down is a mark or measure of openness to God, there is no consistency with your pastor's experience or yours or mine. From facts and experience, it is the people "with problem", and possessed ones that consistently fall. The pastor in charge, his wife and family, his cameramen, his pickers do not fall. If they ever do, it is NOT the norm. Either you are saying that they are not open to God or not. You cannot come and claim diversity for consistency.
We both know that all human beings are different, unique and wonderfully made. This has nothing to do with your teaching that it is openness to God that makes people fall. Possessed people are the usual ones that fall, they are not more open to God. there are no records of any of the disciples of Jesus falling. Moses, Elijah, Samuel, Daniel, all these greatly anointed men were not falling, or they are not open enough? Don't cover up your goofs and traditions and wrong teachings. Grow and be renewed from the Word of God. All these private interpretation is not necessary.

There is no goof . youre just deliberately reading wring meaning to back up your biase . firstly a christian cannot be possesed of the devil . posession means ownership. a Christian may be attacked ,oppressed,obsessed etc .

The idea that falling down is mark or mrasure of openess to God didnt come from me but from you maybe as a form of mockery i dont know. you keep twisting my posts when my communication is so simple and so clear.

I will say ahsin that people fall under the power of God for several reasons. People legs can give way when the power of God hits them.

you just enjoy to criticize. Pastors have fallen under power. praise worship leader has falling under power. people can fall when a higher person in authority minister to them. The first experience i had with someone was while ministrying the holy spirit to a young convert in 1998. As i laid hands on him and said "receive the holy spirit" he fell down rolling on the ground speaking in tongues. ive ministered the holy spirit to others but the experience differ. so i still dont know this to and fro. camera man matter. a camera man is focussed on his shot . security man is focussed on suspicious activity. those who need healing are focussed on receiving. The spirit will touch based on expectation .

@ image123 Also in addition, the slaying under the power of the spirit didnt start yesterday. it was among the manifestations of God witnessed in the ministry of John Wesley. This and many manifestations will be witnessed in Any ministry where the Holy spirirt is given acccess to do his work

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There is no goof . youre just deliberately reading wring meaning to back up your biase . firstly a christian cannot be possesed of the devil . posession means ownership. a Christian may be attacked ,oppressed,obsessed etc .

Actually, you are the one reading wrong meaning here, and type correctly. What is wrong with your computer or phone? i did not say that christians are possessed but that from the scriptures and most experience, it is possessed people that fall and are prone to fall.

The idea that falling down is mark or mrasure of openess to God didnt come from me but from you maybe as a form of mockery i dont know. you keep twisting my posts when my communication is so simple and so clear.

The OP asked "why is it women that fall mostly during deliverance?"
Your reply was "Men do.fall under the power . it depends on the case . The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God . Men can be rigid fighting God ."
But here you are saying that this is my idea? Take time ohh Jo, i forgive you again.

I will say ahsin that people fall under the power of God for several reasons. People legs can give way when the power of God hits them.

The majority fall due to expectation and pressure, and it is BY NO MEANS a measure or show of openness to God. Like we both know, there is very rarely a tangible need for these falls as the people remain the same in most cases. They keep falling every other week with nothing to show for it. We that did not fall, we received so stop teaching that it has anything to do with openness to God.

you just enjoy to criticize. Pastors have fallen under power. praise worship leader has falling under power. people can fall when a higher person in authority minister to them. The first experience i had with someone was while ministrying the holy spirit to a young convert in 1998. As i laid hands on him and said "receive the holy spirit" he fell down rolling on the ground speaking in tongues. ive ministered the holy spirit to others but the experience differ. so i still dont know this to and fro. camera man matter. a camera man is focussed on his shot . security man is focussed on suspicious activity. those who need healing are focussed on receiving. The spirit will touch based on expectation

i don't enjoy to criticize, there you go hurting my dear feelings. i love to help though, it's part of my work in the body . Any where you need help, i'll try showing you. Just keep it on experience differ and stop making a teaching of it. Let me stop there to help you.

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@ image123 Also in addition, the slaying under the power of the spirit didnt start yesterday. it was among the manifestations of God witnessed in the ministry of John Wesley. This and many manifestations will be witnessed in Any ministry where the Holy spirirt is given acccess to do his work

There you go ohh. i do not doubt that people fall, my grouse is with the point that you made that it is a show of openness to God. No, it is not. And what is so common these days is a watered down unscriptural version with nothing to show for it. We saw possessed people fall in the Bible and get delivered, same also happens in deliverance of possessed people today. That is not looking much like the scope of our discussion though. The one we are discussing is the "Take it" version and similar kundalini(occult) styled demonstrations prevalent today in churches and not found in the Bible but more in the occult. The main issue here is that this people do not get anything spiritually significant. They still remain liars, adulterers, thieves, angry, divorced, proud and unforgiving. In summary they still remain sinners. This is incomparable to the move of God in the life and ministry of people like Finney where people fell and quit sin, drunkenness, wickedness etc immediately. And it wasn't even something either they or the minister expected, it was the power of revival and prayers. It's not in the same line Jo.

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There you go ohh. i do not doubt that people fall

Praise God oh.. then case closed

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my grouse is with the point that you made that it is a show of openness to God.

There you go again. . . .you dey manipulate my post.

using the language "Show" sounds so carnal to me. do we need to show anything?. My point is that the Holyghost can be resisted. if hands are laid on you for whatever purpose and are not opeen to receive you cant receive. Hands was laid on me several times to receive the Holyghost but i couldnt speak in tongues. I wanted it to be french language or hausa . so i used to criticise those who speak . i was too analytical and critcal . but when i began to study and seek God face on it i got it without even hands bring laid

No, it is not. And what is so common these days is a watered down unscriptural version with nothing to show for it. We saw possessed people fall in the Bible and get delivered, same also happens in deliverance of possessed people today.

John Wesley and co experienced these manifestations of being slained yet it diesnt have to be a demon . I told you there are different kinds of fallings . It can just be the glory of God overwhelmes a person. it csn be a result of impartation of the spirit and of course when and evil dpirit leave it may result into a fall as well.

That is not looking much like the scope of our discussion though. The one we are discussing is the "Take it" version and similar kundalini(occult) styled demonstrations prevalent today in churches and not found in the Bible but more in the occult. The main issue here is that this people do not get anything spiritually significant. They still remain liars, adulterers, thieves, angry, divorced, proud and unforgiving. In summary they still remain sinners. This is incomparable to the move of God in the life and ministry of people like Finney where people fell and quit sin, drunkenness, wickedness etc immediately. And it wasn't even something either they or the minister expected, it was the power of revival and prayers. It's not in the same line Jo.

if someone is ministered to by the spirit . the spirit will only do what you direct him to do. if its healing. He does the healing that doesnt mean financial doors will open . if its finaces He does what he has to do . that doesn't make you stop malice. But if someone having issues with lust or anger is ministered to ,such spirits leaves the Person AS WELL. The holy spirit will only do what youre opened for him to do.

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Actually, you are the one reading wrong meaning here, and type correctly. What is wrong with your computer or phone? i did not say that christians are possessed but that from the scriptures and most experience, it is possessed people that fall and are prone to fall.

The OP asked "why is it women that fall mostly during deliverance?"
Your reply was "Men do.fall under the power . it depends on the case . The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God . Men can be rigid fighting God ."
But here you are saying that this is my idea? Take time ohh Jo, i forgive you again.

What I meant was that to a great extent women seem to be more spiritually sensitive. Their emotion easily yield . They can cry in worship, Express themselves but most men are rigid for God to break. They may even see tears as weakness or falling down as weakness.

The majority fall due to expectation and pressure, and it is BY NO MEANS a measure or show of openness to God.

It is possible

Like we both know, there is very rarely a tangible need for these falls as the people remain the same in most cases. They keep falling every other week with nothing to show for it. We that did not fall, we received so stop teaching that it has anything to do with openness to God.

We can't say they have nothing to show for it. Except it's not a fall by the spirit. Different minister use different method. While some do take it. Some do "touch" or "Holy spirit touch " others do "receive"

The spirt is not doing a general overhaul. There is a direction which the minister must have explained to them ahead. It can be fire for evangelism . That's the expectation. And when they receive such impartaton they have many testimonies of boldness to preach etc.

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What I meant was that to a great extent women seem to be more spiritually sensitive. Their emotion easily yield . They can cry in worship, Express themselves but most men are rigid for God to break. They may even see tears as weakness or falling down as weakness.

Emotions has little to nothing to do with spiritual sensitivity. One can weep like a total wreck and not even repent. The other fellow that just simply closed the eye and raised the hand may have a most radical change of life.

It is possible



We can't say they have nothing to show for it. Except it's not a fall by the spirit. Different minister use different method. While some do take it. Some do "touch" or "Holy spirit touch " others do "receive"

The spirt is not doing a general overhaul. There is a direction which the minister must have explained to them ahead. It can be fire for evangelism . That's the expectation. And when they receive such impartaton they have many testimonies of boldness to preach etc.

Most of them have nothing tangible to show for it. Check properly, at least they fall every week in your location, right? There was no so called prior explanation or expectation in the Bible accounts or the examples of Wesley and Finney that you reminded us of. Like i said, your pastor is likely the most spiritual person in your eyes. He's not falling all over the place. So stop using falling as a sort of measure of openness to God or receipt from God MORE THAN others. BTW, i heard your pastor say that God told him not to use chain or dark sunshades or something. i know you will follow hook, line and sinker BECAUSE na your pastor talk am. That's one of my grouse with you, the cult-like man worship you guys give. Imagine if i came and taught same thing from the Bible without your pastor saying so, you will mock me and call me all sort of names. may God help us.

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Emotions has little to nothing to do with spiritual sensitivity. One can weep like a total wreck and not even repent. The other fellow that just simply closed the eye and raised the hand may have a most radical change of life.

emotions can yielded to the spirit . emotions can be rigid to the spirit.

Most of them have nothing tangible to show for it. Check properly,

stop being critic are you in their heart ?

at least they fall every week in your location, right?

do they? why do tou just critically cook your assumption in front of computer. is church service about a fall? why not attemd a branch. when you see teaching your body will come down . you realize hoe wrong you have been.

There was no so called prior explanation or expectation in the Bible accounts or the examples of Wesley and Finney that you reminded us of.

now you criticize finney just becauee of pastor chris what bile? just kike thise who condemn a version of the bible just to stick to thier ideology

Like i said, your pastor is likely the most spiritual person in your eyes.

are you in my heart. presumtion sins!

He's not falling all over the place

i give up on you

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So stop using falling as a sort of measure of openness to God or receipt from God MORE THAN others.

did i?. do every body fall? what is the matter with you and this fall? that only seldom happens in certain IMPARTATION service. cec is a teaching ministry dude.

BTW, i heard your pastor say that God told him not to use chain or dark sunshades or something.i know you will follow hook, line and sinker BECAUSE na your pastor talk am.

have i used thise things before should be your question? wwlk eith God is personal

That's one of my grouse with you, the cult-like man worship you guys give. Imagine if i came and taught same thing from the Bible without your pastor saying so, you will mock me and call me all sort of names. may God help us.

i can only say youre carnal minded on spiritual issues. you work with assumotion like many religous people do.

why not mention your church and your pastor to analyse your church. you hise behind monikers to attak other bodies on issues yourr not even informed about . when trutb dawns on you you eill realise how you have misjudged people serving God wrongly .

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emotions can yielded to the spirit . emotions can be rigid to the spirit.

Stay one lane oga Jo, anything can yield to the Spirit, even rocks and a dumb donkey. Your point is that emotions give a sort of measure of one's openness to the Spirit or God. And that men are not open since they are not emotional. It's not usually so. Spiritual things are not measured that way and you need to stop teaching that.

stop being critic are you in their heart ?

i don't have to be in their heart, i have seen them many times. You should open your eyes and see too. Jesus said to WATCH.

do they? why do tou just critically cook your assumption in front of computer. is church service about a fall? why not attemd a branch. when you see teaching your body will come down . you realize hoe wrong you have been.

i believe you saw the question mark, right? You certainly must have learnt about punctuation marks somewhere, they are not designs.

now you criticize finney just becauee of pastor chris what bile? just kike thise who condemn a version of the bible just to stick to thier ideology

You seem to be reading to reply, not understand or take to correction. And you are so quick and filled with emotion that you cannot even care about spelling and correction. If you read properly, i put Finny, the Bible and Wesley in the same breath and sentence. How then am i criticizing anyone of them because of Pastor Chris?

are you in my heart. presumtion sins!

"your pastor is likely". You should update yourself on the meaning of the word "likely" and the part it plays in a sentence. If it is not true you simply say so.

i give up on you

Jo, you said it yourself, remember. You said at times, he falls. At times means it is not often. He's not falling all over the place. Or is he not open to God in those times? Judge yourself, use yourself or your mentor as a yardstick. If falling is a measure of being open to God like you teach, then it means most of these our pastors and Bible characters are not open abi, because they no dey fall.

did i?. do every body fall? what is the matter with you and this fall? that only seldom happens in certain IMPARTATION service. cec is a teaching ministry dude.

Oh, falling is now seldom. Good. But does that not mean that you are not open to God, or you are rigidly fighting God? Because this is what you said that i challenged.

have i used thise things before should be your question? wwlk eith God is personal

Then you should stop teaching at all and let people do their personal walk na. See talk oh. Why is your pastor bringing it up in a teaching if not to teach? Was he saying it for jokes?

i can only say youre carnal minded on spiritual issues. you work with assumotion like many religous people do.

why not mention your church and your pastor to analyse your church. you hise behind monikers to attak other bodies on issues yourr not even informed about . when trutb dawns on you you eill realise how you have misjudged people serving God wrongly .

Lol upon lol Now you want to leave me and attack chuch lol, lola, lollipop i don't have a church bro, i am a member of the Church. i have many pastors, evangelists, apostles, teachers and prophets though. God dashed me, gloryyyyyyyyy.

Oksoluk10:
I have noticed this for sometime now.

Why is it that women are the most that give testimony in church compared to men? Or is it that the standard are very high for men?.

Also why is it women that fall mostly during deliverance?.

Funny enough, It's the opposite for my church.
Men testify more and in most cases, the men fall under the power of the Holy Spirit more.

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Stay one lane oga Jo, anything can yield to the Spirit, even rocks and a dumb donkey. Your point is that emotions give a sort of measure of one's openness to the Spirit or God. And that men are not open since they are not emotional. It's not usually so. Spiritual things are not measured that way and you need to stop teaching that.



i don't have to be in their heart, i have seen them many times. You should open your eyes and see too. Jesus said to WATCH.



i believe you saw the question mark, right? You certainly must have learnt about punctuation marks somewhere, they are not designs.



You seem to be reading to reply, not understand or take to correction. And you are so quick and filled with emotion that you cannot even care about spelling and correction. If you read properly, i put Finny, the Bible and Wesley in the same breath and sentence. How then am i criticizing anyone of them because of Pastor Chris?



"your pastor is likely". You should update yourself on the meaning of the word "likely" and the part it plays in a sentence. If it is not true you simply say so.



Jo, you said it yourself, remember. You said at times, he falls. At times means it is not often. He's not falling all over the place. Or is he not open to God in those times? Judge yourself, use yourself or your mentor as a yardstick. If falling is a measure of being open to God like you teach, then it means most of these our pastors and Bible characters are not open abi, because they no dey fall.



Oh, falling is now seldom. Good. But does that not mean that you are not open to God, or you are rigidly fighting God? Because this is what you said that i challenged.



Then you should stop teaching at all and let people do their personal walk na. See talk oh. Why is your pastor bringing it up in a teaching if not to teach? Was he saying it for jokes?

ok you won

Lol upon lol Now you want to leave me and attack chuch lol, lola, lollipop i don't have a church bro, i am a member of the Church. i have many pastors, evangelists, apostles, teachers and prophets though. God dashed me, gloryyyyyyyyy.

i wont bring myself to your level. the church is christ body

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ok you won





i wont bring myself to your level. the church is christ body

Rubbish, Jesus Christ won. Come up hither to my level Jo, there's no man worship there. You know how much i love you with the love of God all these years. You know it.

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Rubbish, Jesus Christ won.

se emi l'esu?

Come up hither to my level Jo, there's no man worship there.

someone said you be deeper life minister. i realise also you used to be against prosperity, success ,church growth., miracles etc. you saw them as carnal. but when Pastor Kumuyi vegan to have miracle programs, succcess teaching etc you keot mum. no bi man worship be dat? you dey judge others oh

continue. . .

it.[quoteYou know how much i love you with the love of God all these years. You know it.[/quote]

let me go wash my eyes and come and read again

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se emi l'esu?

Can you really let Jesus Christ win in peace, must it always be about you?

someone said you be deeper life minister. i realise also you used to be against prosperity, success ,church growth., miracles etc. you saw them as carnal. but when Pastor Kumuyi vegan to have miracle programs, succcess teaching etc you keot mum. no bi man worship be dat? you dey judge others oh

continue. . .

it.

Gibberish. Stop trying to compare yourselves, it is not wise. Learn and live. i don't remember Kumuyi being against prosperity though, what i think you mean is that he is against the infamous health and wealth gospel that you preach.