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Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by oyatz(m): 9:39pm On Jul 04, 2021
AlphaSoul:
My friend...

I agree with a significant part of your post until I read your "highly defamatory" last paragraph. Asiwaju Bola Tinubu was never
an abuser of hard drugs neither
was he ever a drug baron like
some tribal bigots have been
posting falsehood online and on
NL ever since they heard unconfirmed rumours that he
was going to contest in 2023.

Tinubu travels regularly to the U.S. and senior members of the U.S. Embassy pay him visits. If it is true that he is a drug baron like those kids and simpletons have been posting online, the Americans would have arrested him (since the political exile years in the 1990s when the iconic Bola Tinubu who
is a U.S.-trained Chartered Accountant and Senior Mobil Nigeria staff, Femi Gbajabiamila,
Senator Opeyemi Bamidele,
Kayode Fayemi who was the
Director of Radio Kudirat in the
UK, broadcasting in a guerrilla fashion from the premises of BBC
HQ in Bush House, London , etc), and jailed him. It's a very serious offence in the U.S.


It is very obvious that Tinubu has Parkinsons disease which causes vibrations of the hands, body and slurred speech with a groggy look.

I know the signs very well. This is due to the ageing process and
NOT due to the abuse of hard
drugs like some of you are falsely
posting here on NL especially
Ibos, some bitter Niger Delta boy of
Ijaw origin, and now I'm seeing a few young and angry Yoruba here spreading this fake news because of the bias of the government in dealing with insecurity from confirmed Fulani kidnappers who have been arrested many times and killer Fulani armed herdsmen all over Nigeria!

These criminal elements among
the foreign and local Fulanis do
not even have any respect for
PMB other wise they would have listened to his warning to stop the criminality. All they are after is money.


Fortunately there is now a cure
for the debilitating Parkinsons
disease which is a neurological
disorder. The body vibrations
and classic slurred speech and
mistakes he made while reading
a speech he made in Kano as of this year, can be corrected in the U.S., Canada, Germany, etc.

I believe Tinubu seems distant
from commenting lately because he has been undergoing some form of treatment.


I hope this helps.

Cheers!
Your explanation is too educated for these guys.


However, I think certain conservative Northern forces may surprisingly be backing Tinubu, not out of love but for the possibility of Tinubu dieing in the office and his Northern deputy replacing him ala Yar'Adua scenerio.
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by AlphaSoul: 10:16pm On Jul 04, 2021
oyatz:
Your explanation is too educated for these guys.


However, I think certain conservative Northern forces may surprisingly be backing Tinubu, not out of love but for the possibility of Tinubu dieing in the office and his Northern deputy replacing him ala Yar'Adua scenerio.
@Oyatz, I like your feedback here.
There are many variables at play
in politics and only a healthy
Tinubu will be able to avoid any
landmines.


My own major take is that
Tinubu who is in his late 60s
should not even contest any
national election and respect
himself when the ovation is
loudest. There is a growing
resentment towards Tinubu and other Yoruba politicians by the
Yorubas themselves over the thinking that he and others are
not speaking out loud over the invasion of Yorubaland by criminals. So they need to speak
up other wise the Yorubas will take revenge by not voting for these politicians again.

I like the man (Bola Tinubu)
though because he fought for democracy in the 1990s even
at the point of threats by the Military to his life and other
NADECO leaders. He harboured
a lot of exiled Nigerians in his
Chicago mansion in the 1990s.


Cheers!
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by AldrichAmes(op): 10:23pm On Jul 04, 2021
AlphaSoul:
My friend...

I agree with a significant part of your post until I read your "highly defamatory" last paragraph. Asiwaju Bola Tinubu was never
an abuser of hard drugs neither
was he ever a drug baron like
some tribal bigots have been
posting falsehood online and on
NL ever since they heard unconfirmed rumours that he
was going to contest in 2023.

Tinubu travels regularly to the U.S. and senior members of the U.S. Embassy pay him visits. If it is true that he is a drug baron like those kids and simpletons have been posting online, the Americans would have arrested him (since the political exile years in the 1990s when the iconic Bola Tinubu who
is a U.S.-trained Chartered Accountant and Senior Mobil Nigeria staff, Femi Gbajabiamila,
Senator Opeyemi Bamidele,
Kayode Fayemi who was the
Director of Radio Kudirat in the
UK, broadcasting in a guerrilla fashion from the premises of BBC
HQ in Bush House, London , etc), and jailed him. It's a very serious offence in the U.S.


It is very obvious that Tinubu has Parkinsons disease which causes vibrations of the hands, body and slurred speech with a groggy look.

I know the signs very well. This is due to the ageing process and
NOT due to the abuse of hard
drugs like some of you are falsely
posting here on NL especially
Ibos, some bitter Niger Delta boy of
Ijaw origin, and now I'm seeing a few young and angry Yoruba here spreading this fake news because of the bias of the government in dealing with insecurity from confirmed Fulani kidnappers who have been arrested many times and killer Fulani armed herdsmen all over Nigeria!

These criminal elements among
the foreign and local Fulanis do
not even have any respect for
PMB other wise they would have listened to his warning to stop the criminality. All they are after is money.


Fortunately there is now a cure
for the debilitating Parkinsons
disease which is a neurological
disorder. The body vibrations
and classic slurred speech and
mistakes he made while reading
a speech he made in Kano as of this year, can be corrected in the U.S., Canada, Germany, etc.

I believe Tinubu seems distant
from commenting lately because he has been undergoing some form of treatment.


I hope this helps.

Cheers!
I believe you’re conflating two completely different things. I never mentioned anything about Tinubu and drug trafficking (if he did or didn’t, that’s his prerogative). And I honestly don’t care about online gossip from people with ulterior motives.

I know for a fact that Tinubu abused drugs and the information is from people who know him. What I don’t know is if he still indulges in it. And with an eye test, if you know about drug users, you can see it by looking at him. Compare how Pa Adebanjo and Prof. Akintoye who’re relatively older look, to Tinubu, and you should be able to see the difference. Muhammad Ali had a much more severe strain of Parkinson’s and he never looked the way Tinubu looks.

Also, there’s intelligence report out there that Tinubu and OBJ gave their blessings to the assassination of Igboho. So for someone who seems distant due to undergoing treatment, he does have time. Doesn’t he?

Anyway, that’s beside the point. What’s the plan-b of a Fulani ends up winning the APC presidential primaries for the 2023 elections?
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by AldrichAmes(op): 10:30pm On Jul 04, 2021
oyatz:
Your explanation is too educated for these guys.


However, I think certain conservative Northern forces may surprisingly be backing Tinubu, not out of love but for the possibility of Tinubu dieing in the office and his Northern deputy replacing him ala Yar'Adua scenerio.
You sound delusional for “an educated guy” who can’t spell a word as rudimentary as “dying”.

The conservative Northern forces you’re probably talking about are the Gandujes. But sorry to burst your bubble, they don’t run the show. The younger ones; Pantamis, El Rufais and Malamis run the show.

And why would a guy who bankrolled Buhari in 2015 and matched the big financial war chest of GEJ be waiting for some irrelevant Northerners when he should be the one calling the shots? It proves I’m right and that the Tinubu camp is almost in disarray.

So if that’s the case, what’s the plan-b when you seem to be fighting people pushing the only card you can use? The sly fox belief won’t work against a lion.
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by AlphaSoul: 11:12pm On Jul 04, 2021
AldrichAmes:
I believe you’re conflating two completely different things. I never mentioned anything about Tinubu and drug trafficking (if he did or didn’t, that’s his prerogative). And I honestly don’t care about online gossip from people with ulterior motives.

I know for a fact that Tinubu abused drugs and the information is from people who know him. What I don’t know is if he still indulges in it. And with an eye test, if you know about drug users, you can see it by looking at him. Compare how Pa Adebanjo and Prof. Akintoye who’re relatively older look, to Tinubu, and you should be able to see the difference. Muhammad Ali had a much more severe strain of Parkinson’s and he never looked the way Tinubu looks.

Also, there’s intelligence report out there that Tinubu and OBJ gave their blessings to the assassination of Igboho. So for someone who seems distant due to undergoing treatment, he does have time. Doesn’t he?

Anyway, that’s beside the point. What’s the plan-b of a Fulani ends up winning the APC presidential primaries for the 2023 elections?
Okay your feedback was very
insightful. What kind of drugs
abuse are you talking about here?
Aspirin? Paracetamol or some
pain killer?



A Plan B?

The Presidency will def go to
the South. The core North
cannot cling to power after
PMB.


If it's the SE, these are the top 3
Presidential aspirants offhand:

1. David Umeahi.
2. Rochas Okorocha (Speaks
Hausa fluently).
3. Orji Kalu.

4. Kingsley Morghalu would have
been good if he were to be in
APC.



The SW Presidential aspirants:

1. Babatunde R. Fasola.
2. Kayode Fayemi
3. Bola Ahmed Adekunle Tinubu.

4. VP Yemi Osinbajo will not
want to contest because of
fatigue... Unless he is speciall prodded. My gut instints.


Adios!
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by fenibak: 12:32am On Jul 05, 2021
AldrichAmes:
P.S: Presidential Ticket.

…You would be an idiot not to see what’s going on. All the excessive borrowing, looting and Fulanis heading sensitive/juicy positions are for a reason. You need a lot of money and being in strategic position of power to force your will on everyone in a country like Nigeria hence Fulanis were so scared under GEJ with how Igbos were able to hijack his government. They were of the belief that Igbos had money/power to declare war on them.

…Almost all Fulani politicians are crossing from PDP to APC thus weakening the opposition party (Nigeria is almost a one-party state now). And you’d be living in fool’s paradise if you think they’re doing it to push a pro-Yoruba agenda in 2023 and set the stage for a Yoruba president.

…Fulani youths are armed to the teeth and the smallest weapon they carry is AK-47 (a lot of them are being trained in military combat). They also have access thousands of fighting forces in Niger, Chad, Mali and Northern Cameroon. Are they doing this for a Yoruba agenda? cheesy

When Yoruba elders in this government talk about how Yoruba have invested a lot in Nigeria; they’re talking about the billions of Lagos money that was used to bankroll Buhari’s presidential ambition. They had to match GEJ’s spending power which came from when oil prices were at their peak and only Lagos’ money under Tinubu could match it. But they’re yet to get half of that money back as Buhari became a turncoat after he became president and his agenda is solely a Fulani agenda. And the only way they can get that money back is for a Yoruba to become president in 2023.

Now, Fulanis really don’t need Yoruba to get another Fulani into power in 2023. They have always had an unspoken alliance with Igbo elites. And they can kill 50million today but once they pick an Igbo vice, most Igbos will vote for them. It happened after the Igbo pogroms in the North in the 50s with NPC and NCNC. It also happened after the civil war when millions were killed but that didn’t stop Igbos from voting for the North and his Igbo vice. And it will happen again. They also have another joker they can play in 2023 with Nnamdi Kanu; all they need to do hold him till next year before cutting a deal with him.

So it begs the question: when neither Tinubu, Fashola, Fayemi nor Osibanjo get the APC ticket for 2023; what’s your plan-b? Are you going to unleash MC Oluomo and his fellow jokers who’re more into theatrics than combat against AK-47 carrying Fulanis? Or are you going to start screaming Yoruba Nation then?
i kinda agree with some of the things that you pointed out,but igbos have always rejected buhari and things are different now,nigeria would break before 2023 or right after,igbos only supported atiku because it was against the enemy buhari,igbo wont vote another fulani
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by fenibak: 12:34am On Jul 05, 2021
AlphaSoul:
Okay your feedback was very
insightful. What kind of drugs
abuse are you talking about here?
Aspirin? Paracetamol or some
pain killer?



A Plan B?

The Presidency will def go to
the South. The core North
cannot cling to power after
PMB.


If it's the SE, these are the top 3
Presidential aspirants offhand:

1. David Umeahi.
2. Rochas Okorocha (Speaks
Hausa fluently).
3. Orji Kalu.

4. Kingsley Morghalu would have
been good if he were to be in
APC.



The SW Presidential aspirants:

1. Babatunde R. Fasola.
2. Kayode Fayemi
3. Bola Ahmed Adekunle Tinubu.

4. VP Yemi Osinbajo will not
want to contest because of
fatigue... Unless he is speciall prodded. My gut instints.


Adios!
if you think fulanis would give you power in 2023 then you are joking,they are majority in APC now
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by fenibak: 12:41am On Jul 05, 2021
AldrichAmes:
Even Tinubu is jittery in his inner chambers right now and the handwriting is on the wall. Buhari even dared him with openly saying “you can’t sit in Lagos blah blah blah” and he had to do that when Akeredolu was getting too bold hence Buhari has been speaking lately.

Fulani won’t give up the power without a fight and the agenda is overt in everyone’s faces. And if you think you’re a fox, you can never tame a lion.

So that begs the question: what’s the plan-b?

I don’t expect the street urchins here to post anything logical since most of them can barely string a sentence together. What they do is for survival. And even with the current crop of Yoruba governors in APC, for a group as educated as Yoruba, only Fayemi and Akeredolu are educated based on Yoruba standard. The rest are semi-illiterates. Tinubu is also old and I don’t expect someone like him who abused drugs for a long to be mentally sharp enough to deal with the encroaching tsunami. So who’re his lieutenants/advisers?
i have been saying it tinubu is not a strategist, using thugs to steal votes is not strategy, he dined with the devil and not just any devil the fulani devil,they are trooping to APC to block tinubu,they want to form majority and then gradually push tinubu out,mark my word tinubu will leave apc and if he does not leave before 2023 he wont be active anymore the man is old anyways,let him support yoruba nation covertly
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by AldrichAmes(op): 12:01pm On Jul 05, 2021
There are too many daft political jobbers here. cheesy

These fellas and intellectual dishonesty while feigning ignorance are hilarious.

Most of you would cry very soon. And when it’s said and done with no crumbs trickling down to your pockets, you will go back to being broke in the same messed up country. Money doesn’t even last two generations in a country like Nigeria hence the Abiolas are where they’re today. I pity you fools.

I guess none of you fellas can come up with a plan-b then. You know why? It’s because you don’t have one and it’s 2023 or bust. And you think Yoruba agitators that you maligned would come to your rescue in 2023? cheesy Foools!
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by AldrichAmes(op): 12:15pm On Jul 05, 2021
fenibak:
i have been saying it tinubu is not a strategist, using thugs to steal votes is not strategy, he dined with the devil and not just any devil the fulani devil,they are trooping to APC to block tinubu,they want to form majority and then gradually push tinubu out,mark my word tinubu will leave apc and if he does not leave before 2023 he wont be active anymore the man is old anyways,let him support yoruba nation covertly
How do you expect a sherm and opium head to be a strategist? You need a functioning brain, not a compromised one, to be a strategist.

Winning Lagos in 1999 and the huge wealth in the state helped him. And since then he has consolidated on his hold with Lagos’ money and thuggery. Nigeria is basically like the poor man’s version of America and winning elections is largely dependent on your spending power. The more the money you spend, the better your chance. That’s what Tinubu has been doing, coupled with his thugs. He has never been a strategist.

You’re right. He should’ve been one of the ones covertly supporting the Yoruba nation agitators, to use the agitation as plan-b. But he’s out there ordering assassinations. He probably thinks the foreign intelligence agencies would get him to power when he’s just a tool like the countless of other Nigerian elites in all the geopolitical zones on their payroll. They don’t care about him and they will always go with whoever has the upper-hand once the smoke clears. It’s always about permanent interests, not friendship.

Yoruba Nation agitation is in phase 2 right now. The movement is stronger than ever and there’s going to be a bigger push soon.
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by Owontime: 12:17pm On Jul 05, 2021
AldrichAmes:
P.S: Presidential Ticket.

…You would be an idiot not to see what’s going on. All the excessive borrowing, looting and Fulanis heading sensitive/juicy positions are for a reason. You need a lot of money and being in strategic position of power to force your will on everyone in a country like Nigeria hence Fulanis were so scared under GEJ with how Igbos were able to hijack his government. They were of the belief that Igbos had money/power to declare war on them.

…Almost all Fulani politicians are crossing from PDP to APC thus weakening the opposition party (Nigeria is almost a one-party state now). And you’d be living in fool’s paradise if you think they’re doing it to push a pro-Yoruba agenda in 2023 and set the stage for a Yoruba president.

…Fulani youths are armed to the teeth and the smallest weapon they carry is AK-47 (a lot of them are being trained in military combat). They also have access thousands of fighting forces in Niger, Chad, Mali and Northern Cameroon. Are they doing this for a Yoruba agenda? cheesy

When Yoruba elders in this government talk about how Yoruba have invested a lot in Nigeria; they’re talking about the billions of Lagos money that was used to bankroll Buhari’s presidential ambition. They had to match GEJ’s spending power which came from when oil prices were at their peak and only Lagos’ money under Tinubu could match it. But they’re yet to get half of that money back as Buhari became a turncoat after he became president and his agenda is solely a Fulani agenda. And the only way they can get that money back is for a Yoruba to become president in 2023.

Now, Fulanis really don’t need Yoruba to get another Fulani into power in 2023. They have always had an unspoken alliance with Igbo elites. And they can kill 50million today but once they pick an Igbo vice, most Igbos will vote for them. It happened after the Igbo pogroms in the North in the 50s with NPC and NCNC. It also happened after the civil war when millions were killed but that didn’t stop Igbos from voting for the North and his Igbo vice. And it will happen again. They also have another joker they can play in 2023 with Nnamdi Kanu; all they need to do hold him till next year before cutting a deal with him.

So it begs the question: when neither Tinubu, Fashola, Fayemi nor Osibanjo get the APC ticket for 2023; what’s your plan-b? Are you going to unleash MC Oluomo and his fellow jokers who’re more into theatrics than combat against AK-47 carrying Fulanis? Or are you going to start screaming Yoruba Nation then?
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by Owontime: 12:20pm On Jul 05, 2021
Bro,Igbos don't vote.
Igbo votes is always about 5 percent of the total votes.
If I may ask,why can't an 8gno contest for president?
Why settle for vice?
I can assure you that any party with an Igbo on the ticket will lose woefully.
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by 2023overandout: 2:15pm On Jul 05, 2021
My Goodness, a highly cerabral
and functioning brain.
The fact that you think like a chess player is outstanding. Unfortunately the game is over bro. 4+4, Plus Four.
There is no plan b, our "Joker" is the Yoruba Nation. Failure is not an option, otherwise slavery beckons
Tinubu is a greedy clown, bleeped up real bad.
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by LLiKYekoba: 2:30pm On Jul 05, 2021
There will be no nigerian elections in 2023 if nigeria survives till then, Eastern nigeria which is now tired of nigeria.

Elections may hold in SW but will now have to be against the Northern voters vs SW voters, we already know how the votes will swing if the yorubas go ahead to the polls. We know those who use almajiris from niger and chad to swell their votes, we know those who head INEC.

The East don commot hand for nigeria matter. nigeria can no longer be redeemed.
Re: Yoruba APC Members: What's Your Plan-b When A Fulani Wins The 2023 Ticket? by Uchek(m): 4:07pm On Jul 05, 2021
Go get a job. You are either unemployed or under-employed otherwise you won't pen this trash. You are.Ndigbo-obsessed.

Igbos permanently solved Hausa-Fulani problem on May 30, 1967. Awolowo and his Yoruba kinsmen empowered the North by aligning with them to fight Biafra rather than using the opportunity of Biafra's birth to seek Yoruba independence.




History555:
So alderdrich is no longer a yoruba man after years defending yorubas and abusing lgbos He asks a question and suddenly is now lgbo
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