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Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? - Christianity Etc (2) - Nairaland

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by Kobojunkie:
lilvicky68:
Wow..
Na lie I talk? undecided

Jesus Christ, God's Law, never indicated masturbation as a sin. Instead He declared that Lust in one's heart a sin. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by Kobojunkie: 9:10pm On Jul 08, 2021
livingchrist:
God have mercy, your true colour is shining brighter at each passing,
see how confused you are, how can you masturbate without lust?
You don't get to decide what sin is, that job belongs solely to God. Jesus Christ, God's Law, defined sin for us over 2000 years ago, and we are called to Trust in and obey Him, not our own idea and delusions. undecided

As for how a person can masturbate without just, I never said one could, so I don't understand why you ask me a dumb question to begin with. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by Nephilim: 10:57pm On Jul 08, 2021
CharisEleos:
It has nothing to do with acceptance. The sister does not desire marriage anylonger due to some personal reasons she has refused to divulge.
if she doesn't want marriage, she should go and adopt, it's better that way. There are thousands of kids waiting out there to be adopted...

The ivf you wanna do, the sperm belongs to a man, so it's more like conception out of wedlock which is against God standard.

If we call ourselves Christians it's better we start living by its standard and not by our standards or what we feel, it's not for anything but for the sake of the judgement, God's standards stand sure.

Apostle Paul says if they burn let them marry but if not let them remain unmarried and live their lives out for God.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by Nobody: 11:03pm On Jul 08, 2021
Nephilim:
if she doesn't want marriage, she should go and adopt, it's better that way. There are thousands of kids waiting out there to be adopted...

The ivf you wanna do, the sperm belongs to a man, so it's more like conception out of wedlock which is against God standard.

If we call ourselves Christians it's better we start living by its standard and not by our standards or what we feel, it's not for anything but for the sake of the judgement, God's standards stand sure.

Apostle Paul says if they burn let them marry but if not let them remain unmarried and live their lives out for God.
Ok.
Thanks.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by Enginiaman1(m):
CharisEleos:
Can a born-again sister who wishes to have a baby of her own but does not desire marriage go for IVF?

Is it a sin?

Please only Mature Christians with sound spiritual life should advise.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by marttol: 6:17pm On Jul 11, 2021
Kobojunkie:
No, it is not a sin to use IVF. undecided

Why not consult the Word of God to learn the Truth of Jesus Christ for your own self by reading the Gospels so can stand confident rather than allow those "mature Christians" you say above your self seduce you away from God's Truth and Law. undecided
i have observe xou for months,you love using this smiley " :-/ " pls desist...u sound boring almost everytime cos of dat
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by pozehnani(f): 6:31pm On Jul 11, 2021
marttol:
i have observe xou for months,you love using this smiley " :-/ " pls desist...u sound boring almost everytime cos of dat
How dare you say that to him??!!!!!!!

He's not boring. He's in fact, the most interesting and intelligent man on here.

Stop the hate.!

Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:30pm On Jul 11, 2021
CharisEleos:
Can a born-again sister who wishes to have a baby of her own but does not desire marriage go for IVF?

Is it a sin?

Please only Mature Christians with sound spiritual life should advise.
The only way she could have a baby without sinning being involved is the way Mary had hers, but that's out of the question for obvious reasons.

Interestingly this is an option a certain nairalander proffered to me at some years ago since it didn't involve fornication even though nobody asked her for it, but i immediately rejected it because it just didn't sound right.

One important question you should ask is where the sperm would come from and how it would come about?

It's most through masturbation and that is a sin, and going deeper, you can never tell if it's been infested with demons, because Satan always looks for loopholes to get at believers, and this IVF I believe is one suitable for him to target chaste Christians who value their sexual purity.

And the person may come out worse-off than even someone who fornicates, because demonic influence makes people more inclined to evil.

So the advisable options if one wants to have children are to marry or adopt them or both.

The best option is to ask God to guide you in your choices, so that you'd make those in line with His plan and purpose for your life.

God bless.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by marttol: 9:39pm On Jul 11, 2021
undecided
pozehnani:
How dare you say that to him??!!!!!!!

He's not boring. He's in fact, the most interesting and intelligent man on here.

Stop the hate.!
intelligent and every post he makes he must use that smiley... it's okay though i have no problem wit him but he should desist from using that smiley in all his posts,it makes him look somehow awkward
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by marttol: 9:45pm On Jul 11, 2021
pozehnani:
How dare you say that to him??!!!!!!!

He's not boring. He's in fact, the most interesting and intelligent man on here.

Stop the hate.!
and why should i hate... must he always use dat smiley on ''ALL''
his post.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by Nobody: 10:48pm On Jul 11, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
One important question you should ask is where the sperm would come from and how it would come about?

It's most through masturbation and that is a sin, and going deeper, you can never tell if it's been infested with demons, because Satan always looks for loopholes to get at believers, and this IVF I believe is one suitable for him to target chaste Christians who value their sexual purity.

And the person may come out worse-off than even someone who fornicates, because demonic influence makes people more inclined to evil.

So the advisable options if one wants to have children are to marry or adopt them or both.

The best option is to ask God to guide you in your choices, so that you'd make those in line with His plan and purpose for your life.

God bless.
I asked the OP how the sperm is gotten but she evaded my question.
The truth is that somewhere deep down she already knows the answer but she just wants to gratify her flesh and this is how many Christians go astray. The Holy Spirit in them silently speaks to their hearts but the rebellious nature of the flesh( old man), always wants to have it's way.
Till we Christians get to the point where we say not my will but yours be done oh Lord,the devil will keep on having his way.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by pozehnani(f): 11:07pm On Jul 11, 2021
marttol:
undecidedintelligent and every post he makes he must use that smiley... it's okay though i have no problem wit him but he should desist from using that smiley in all his posts,it makes him look somehow awkward
[quote author=marttol post=103610549]Like seriously?
Since when is there a rule as to the type of smiley one should use? Please he has the right to use any smiley of his choice and owes no one no explanation for that.

Shalom.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Born-again Sister To Do Ivf? Since Sex Is Not Involved.? by jesusjnr2020(m):
enthronedbyGod1:
I asked the OP how the sperm is gotten but she evaded my question.
The truth is that somewhere deep down she already knows the answer but she just wants to gratify her flesh and this is how many Christians go astray. The Holy Spirit in them silently speaks to their hearts but the rebellious nature of the flesh( old man), always wants to have it's way.
Till we Christians get to the point where we say not my will but yours be done oh Lord,the devil will keep on having his way.
I saw your post about the invention of the procedure, and I wasn't surprised because judging by how cunning it appears that it raises such questions, i just had the feeling it could be but couldn't include it in my comment because I wasn't sure.

However I think she's sincere with her intentions having had past interactions with her here, so all she just needed was to be sure of what's involved, and I believe it's the job of those us who knew better to help her out, which in my opinion we've done well.

God bless.
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