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Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Lionessza6(f): 8:11am On Jul 12, 2021
prince3009:
South Africa and violence be like 5 and 6
Same as Nigeria with corruption ,greed and incompetence wink.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by georgeakins: 8:16am On Jul 12, 2021
Danzakidakura:
which means if Tinubu was to come from Zulu land by now they would have hang the thief to dead. For using bullion Van for a broad daylight robbary . grin grin
Why not pay attention to all the politicians that looted the resources allocated to your region and made the place so backward? Are you from Lagos?
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by NinjaMetahuman: 8:22am On Jul 12, 2021
TMKsouth:
Oh really? I heard they also know how to arrest their former corrupt presidents instead of building statues in their honour and naming major roads after them. FYI, Zuma doesn't have a single statue in Zululand wink

Igwe Zuma - only in Nigeria (and nowhere else on planet Earth).
grin grin cheesy grin

Next time say

Only in Biafra land.

Those ones are not Nigerians.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by jimter44(m): 8:27am On Jul 12, 2021
Is South Africa in the continent of Africa? I'm surprised that a former president is charged to Court for corrupt practices.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by SmartPolician:
Lionessza6:
LMFAO, Nigerians have scary vices of their own; human trafficking, kidnapping, terrorism etc. Please stop being a comedian cheesy grin. And wasn't it Nigerians that were looting onions recently while protesting against fulani herdsmen? grin grin. And didn't Nigerians loot fellow Nigerian businesses not so long ago hiding behind the fight against xenophobia in South Africa? grin grin.
Admittedly, Nigerians have their vices. However, I was making reference to protest and loot. If you put the stats of protest that have happened in Nigeria/South Africa and the attendant loots, you will realize that South Africa is miles ahead in the continent.

Year in, year out, SA people protest against foreigners in your country. While it is okay to have protests, SA people always seize the opportunity to loot foreigners' shops.

As regards the Fulani situation you mentioned, yes, people looted their onions in retaliation. The same thing played out at Shoprite because it's wrongly believed here that the South African retail chain is owned by SA business people.

But why should SA people loot ordinary people's shops because a corrupt Jacob Zuma is facing trials for his misconduct? That doesn't make sense. That's why Nigerians always argue that they are just lazy and there's sense in that. This is no hate; this is an observation.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by JaceBlaze: 8:32am On Jul 12, 2021
strangest:
They have been looting shops... ShopRite and foreigners shop we're looted... They can't blame Nigerians again... They are just broke ass mofos
You mean the same Shoprite you also looted not long ago? shocked

Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by lomprico(m): 8:35am On Jul 12, 2021
there is something fundamentally wrong with the black man. undecided
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by OgeFather(m): 8:49am On Jul 12, 2021
illitracy:
Looting, trust those cone heads to have PhD's in that.
I'm telling you, small thing them don dey loot
Na hunger dey worry these lazy mofos
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by JaceBlaze: 8:50am On Jul 12, 2021
lomprico:
there is something fundamentally wrong with the black man. undecided
Just for protesting? angry
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by jaxxy(m): 9:01am On Jul 12, 2021
TMKsouth:
Oh really? I heard they also know how to arrest their former corrupt presidents instead of building statues in their honour and naming major roads after them. FYI, Zuma doesn't have a single statue in Zululand wink

Igwe Zuma - only in Nigeria (and nowhere else on planet Earth).
Like I said b4 this is like sending Mandela to jail for a 2nd time. He fought the liberation. Yes the law should be followed for ALL bt He should be respected no matter what.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Triplerg: 9:03am On Jul 12, 2021
Lionessza6:
We will never forget how " hardworking " Nigerians looted innocent people's businesses( mostly Nigerians)in lagos ,hiding behind fighting xenophobia in South Africa grin grin. Who can forget the recent looting of onions by Southerners ,hiding behind fighting the invasion of Fulani- herdsmen grin grin grin grin .
This is a very poor attempt at sarcasm. How do compare something that happens occasionally to what happens regularly?
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Nobody: 9:16am On Jul 12, 2021
Lionessza6:
Same as Nigeria with corruption ,greed and incompetence wink.
And you think I give a f*ck about Nigeria? Both countries are shitholes.

But why do people spread HIV like bread in South Africa?
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Lionessza6(f): 9:19am On Jul 12, 2021
Triplerg:
This is a very poor attempt at sarcasm. How do compare something that happens occasionally to what happens regularly?
LMFAO, every thing has a start ,clearly Nigerians are learning this bad vice as well,you better curb it now before it engulfs you grin, the same way cult wars have become a norm in some of your communities wink.

And don't forget that the uncivilized security forces of Nigeria plays a big part in deterring such occurrences wink,we all know that Buhari would have opened live bullets on these looters if it were in Nigeria ,and Nigerian criminals know this.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Lionessza6(f): 9:21am On Jul 12, 2021
prince3009:
And you think I give a f*ck about Nigeria? Both countries are shitholes.
LMFAO, I'm glad you don't give a fck about your own country,that's speaks volumes grin grin. Now stay out of SA issues as well wink. Thanks .
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Nobody: 9:27am On Jul 12, 2021
Lionessza6:
LMFAO, I'm glad you don't give a fck about your own country,that's speaks volumes grin grin. Now stay out of SA issues as well wink. Thanks .
Then stay out of Nairaland as it is a Nigerian owned website. Go and damble into South African forums and discuss how you gonna spread HIV there. undecided
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by zeedrous: 9:28am On Jul 12, 2021
True tlk
prince3009:
Then stay out of Nairaland as it is a Nigerian owned website. Go and damble into South African forums and discuss how you gonna spread HIV there. undecided
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Lionessza6(f):
SmartPolician:
Admittedly, Nigerians have their vices. However, I was making reference to protest and loot. If you put the stats of protest that have happened in Nigeria/South Africa and the attendant loots, you will realize that South Africa is miles ahead in the continent.

Year in, year out, SA people protest against foreigners in your country. While it is okay to have protests, SA people always seize the opportunity to loot foreigners' shops.

As regards the Fulani situation you mentioned, yes, people looted their onions in retaliation. The same thing played out at Shoprite because it's wrongly believed here that the South African retail chain is owned by SA business people.

But why should SA people loot ordinary people's shops because a corrupt Jacob Zuma is facing trials for his misconduct? That doesn't make sense. That's why Nigerians always argue that they are just lazy and there's sense in that. This is no hate; this is an observation.
Apologies if I misunderstood you, thought you were one of the hypocrites here who like pointing out other people's problems while ignoring theirs . You're correct that in SA there's almost always looting when there are protests ,because criminal elements will always join the protesters and take advantage of those who are vulnerable ( immigrants most especially). But you guys should also realise that this sort of thing didn't start when immigrants arrived here ,look at apartheid era protests you will see that this has long eaten up on our society ( politicised hence no end to it). Now what I dont get is why intending immigrants dont know this ,don't they research the sicknesses & strengths of their to- be host countries ? Do you think a sane SA would go & open a business in Ikorodu surrounded by poor and struggling locals, wont he be an easy target of the sickness of kidnappings that have become a norm in Naija ?. There's a reason why the likes of Dangote don't put their businesses in volatile areas, but go to industrial sites that are well protected by both the local work force and state. Same thing with SA busineses over there .


With that being said ,this protest is very clearly targeted at elite people and politicians, that's why almost all the businesses looted are in malls and plazas; follow it up . The main targets are Ramaphosa backers and sponsors, migrants are simple collateral damage( targeted by criminals taking advantage of the situation) .... they know they are vulnerable and have no papers and therefore it will be hard for them to call for help from the police who have their hands full with the collapse of big businesses.

As for the Fulani situation, well SA too have always maintained that they're retaliating against criminal elements like Drug dealers, unregistered busineses,human traffickers etc . Does that make it right? .

And lastly, Nigerians don't call looters and criminals lazy,they call all South Africans lazy grin,that includes the same SAns who are taxpayers ( responsible for the infrastructure that they so love here ). And looking at the state of Nigeria, they're the last people to call us lazy.....my opinion wink.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by lomprico(m): 9:37am On Jul 12, 2021
JaceBlaze:
Just for protesting? angry
was that a protest or looting galore? anyway, that's not my point.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Lionessza6(f): 9:42am On Jul 12, 2021
prince3009:
Then stay out of Nairaland as it is a Nigerian owned website. Go and damble into South African forums and discuss how you gonna spread HIV there. undecided
Right after your people leave SA wink grin.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by meobizy(m): 9:50am On Jul 12, 2021
The man still has supporters or this is a random event?
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Lionessza6(f): 9:56am On Jul 12, 2021
meobizy:
The man still has supporters or this is a random event?
He has many ,add to that ; people who hate Ramaphosa and his allies ( not necessarily fans of Zuma). ..... that's why the country is shaking. Many elements will also take advantage; criminals, poor and unemployed youth , people who were also victims of the corrupt judiciary etc grin grin.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by BeardGangJnr1(m): 10:03am On Jul 12, 2021
Lionessza6:
......influence, charisma and millions of loyal supporters tongue.
.
..I'm a huge fan of zuma...the meme King grin
But then, let the law take it's cause.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Lionessza6(f): 10:07am On Jul 12, 2021
BeardGangJnr1:
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..I'm a huge fan of zuma...the meme King grin
But then, let the law take it's cause.
Lol,but the law must apply to everyone who is guilty of the same offence not certain individuals of society otherwise it will look like the whole matter get k leg grin grin... and that's what is causing the unrest. If they are rested him for corruption ( proven in court) very few people would care.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by UKBobo(m): 10:18am On Jul 12, 2021
Na so the self-hate begins. Nigger-area 2.0
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by UKBobo(m): 10:20am On Jul 12, 2021
[quote author=SmartPolician post=103621899]Bros, Nigerians are just as myopic and blood-thirsty as them sef.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Ashirioluwa: 10:52am On Jul 12, 2021
When are they going to put Nigerian past and current leaders in jail for corruption and crime against humanity?
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by Nobody: 10:54am On Jul 12, 2021
Shey you be south African? You know what's best to them abi? African leadership is the problem of Africa. grin dey there dey talk about respect, you no get anything ooo
jaxxy:
Like I said b4 this is like sending Mandela to jail for a 2nd time. He fought the liberation. Yes the law should be followed for ALL bt He should be respected no matter what.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by strangest(m): 11:01am On Jul 12, 2021
JaceBlaze:
You mean the same Shoprite you also looted not long ago? shocked
yes we did but did we blame SAs and kill them and set them on fires... you don't get the point... Xenophobic was a tool used by you guys to kill a lot of Nigerians... you looted their shops... Now you're looting your own shop
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by jaxxy(m): 11:19am On Jul 12, 2021
nowhere:
Shey you be south African? You know what's best to them abi? African leadership is the problem of Africa. grin dey there dey talk about respect, you no get anything ooo
When Nigerians fought for them against apartheid where we South Africans then? Better say Smtn else. I didn’t say the law shouldn’t be respected bt u also respect ur foundation fathers. The crimes he committed are not worse than what was committed by the apartheid regime. What did South Africans do to those who enslaved them? Nothing probably rewarded them with some government contracts and control. Who knows.

Here’s a man who fought to liberate u treated and spoken down on like a common criminal? When ure not a bastard. undecided
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by JaceBlaze: 11:51am On Jul 12, 2021
Lionessza6:
Apologies if I misunderstood you, thought you were one of the hypocrites here who like pointing out other people's problems while ignoring theirs . You're correct that in SA there's almost always looting when there are protests ,because criminal elements will always join the protesters and take advantage of those who are vulnerable ( immigrants most especially). But you guys should also realise that this sort of thing didn't start when immigrants arrived here ,look at apartheid era protests you will see that this has long eaten up on our society ( politicised hence no end to it). Now what I dont get is why intending immigrants dont know this ,don't they research the sicknesses & strengths of their to- be host countries ? Do you think a sane SA would go & open a business in Ikorodu surrounded by poor and struggling locals, wont he be an easy target of the sickness of kidnappings that have become a norm in Naija ?. There's a reason why the likes of Dangote don't put their businesses in volatile areas, but go to industrial sites that are well protected by both the local work force and state. Same thing with SA busineses over there .


With that being said ,this protest is very clearly targeted at elite people and politicians, that's why almost all the businesses looted are in malls and plazas; follow it up . The main targets are Ramaphosa backers and sponsors, migrants are simple collateral damage( targeted by criminals taking advantage of the situation) .... they know they are vulnerable and have to papers and therefore it will be hard for them to call for help from the police who have their hands full with the collapse of big businesses.

As for the Fulani situation, well SA too have always maintained that they're retaliating against criminal elements like Drug dealers, unregistered busineses,human traffickers etc . Does that make it right? .

And lastly, Nigerians don't call looters and criminals lazy,they call all South Africans lazy grin,that includes the same SAns who are taxpayers ( responsible for the infrastructure that they so love here ). And looking at the state of Nigeria, they're the last people to call us lazy.....my opinion wink.
This why I love you cheesy .You don't dance around the bush with the truth.
Re: Sporadic Violence Hits Kwazulu-Natal And Johannesburg Over Zuma's Detention by JaceBlaze: 12:04pm On Jul 12, 2021
strangest:
yes we did but did we blame SAs and kill them and set them on fires... you don't get the point... Xenophobic was a tool used by you guys to kill a lot of Nigerians... you looted their shops... Now you're looting your own shop
How many Nigerians were killed? can you give me a number?
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