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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by true2god: 9:38am On Jul 19, 2021 |
maximunimpact:Their hypocrisy is sickening. And for the records, JW is the only religious organization that does street book and literature trading and they rake in billions from the sales worldwide. Did Jesus sell Torah to the Jews when he was doing his earthly ministration? No! maximunimpact:Thank you for opening his mind to this reality. maximunimpact:In fact their logic defy all manners of common sense. maximunimpact:Almost all organizations do charity works, churches and banks inclusive. Even Dangote group do charity work. I pay about 4k for community assistance every month. This is aside my monthly income tax. maximunimpact:I disagree with you here. You cannot condemn ALL because some (or even most) of them are dishonest. What we need condemn is the watchtower claiming a higher moral compass which doesn’t exist. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by DappaD: 9:47am On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:My brother, from your responses it’s clear to a blind man that you do not want to engage in any discussions with these people but they all seem to be livid when they see you’re not shaken by their derogatory comments. Okay they said Watchtower is wrong, we have heard, can they face front and mind their business already? My brother let’s be thankful to Jehovah for the right to relative freedom of worship in this country because I’m sure if there wasn’t, these sort of people will fish us out in no time and lynch us just like that. ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:58am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Luke 16:24-26 ![]() DappaD: |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 10:05am On Jul 19, 2021 |
DappaD:Look who's talking about freedom of worship, another hypocritical talk as usual! which Christian sect devote all their time in condemning others and even go as far as calling them apostates and mentally ill persons? ![]() JWs are the most intolerant Christian sect, they don't pray with other christians, call them Harlots, they can go to peoples house and preach but will never open their doors for others, etc If Watchtower governing body have the kind of power the Pope wields, they would probably shut other churches down by now! Now GB have set up donate.jw.org to collect money and it has become difficult to come up with a defense seeing that they have spent all their time in the past condemning other churches for collecting money from members... ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 10:08am On Jul 19, 2021 |
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:13am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Janosky:ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool oh duh fraud jw did someone say the disciples that Jesus was talking to are the same generation of people that see all those things Jesus spoke off, including His coming in the clouds in power and glory you sure are continually confused: 1cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. and of course full of twisting/lies: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by true2god: 12:08pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
maximunimpact:Freedom of worship, according to JW, is if they can visit you and share Awake and watchtower magazines with you but you can’t share your literature with them. The watchtower literature is from God, according to JW, while the rest is from the devil, the Christendom. maximunimpact:Of course the selling point of watchtower is to turn the Bible upside down and condemn all other Christian organization as being of the devil while twisting and changing their teaching light switching bulb. All non-JW Christians are natural apostates while anyone who leaves the watchtower organization is considered to be mentally ill, according to the watchtower organization (in their July 2011 watchtower publication) maximunimpact:The activities of the watchtower is passive aggression. While they verbally attack all other non-JW organisation, they claim to be peaceful and hate war. It is like a bully who claim not to physically attack his victim but gossip, slander and backbite the person. maximunimpact:You are right. They claim their Jehovah will smash the Christendom who fail to join them at Armageddon. maximunimpact:That is JW hypocrisy. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Nobody: 12:14pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:14pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
What is baffling is how some people claiming Christians feels a certain group is teaching heresy but instead of avoiding this heretics they're always yearning for what the so called heretics have to say! ![]() Just as the hypocritical religious leaders among the first century Jews were saying Jesus and his disciples are heretics yet they're always yearning to converse with Jesus and his disciples, when they find out how competent Jesus and his disciples are in defending their faith with the scriptures they'll conclude that Jesus and his disciples have perfected their manipulation of the scriptures! OK why not avoid them if they're truly demonic? NO! This antagonists won't do that instead they are agitating that Jesus and his disciples mustn't talk in the public exactly what this people are trying to do now! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by 2dominate: 1:15pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:What are your beliefs |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:18pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
2dominate:God sent His only begotten son so that everyone exercising faith in him may not be destroyed but can live forever in Paradise on earth! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 1:45pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Do you avoid other people you always castigate in your publications? You people will be dishing out different lies but when you are scrutinized you come up with different story of being victimized. Anyways, still on the matter, can you help us reconcile these two statements from the stable of your darling organization? "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 "The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers." Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4 ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:49pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
First and foremost, where is your evidence of the so called ponzi scheme? Until you provide the evidence for that false accusation you'll, KEEP ON ASKING! Matthew 7:7 ![]() Emusan: |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 1:54pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:The most Ponzi scheme advocate, you'll ask for the evidence tire. Using style to dodge question.... I understand bro ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:04pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Jehovah only arranged (plan) towards the extermination of spirit beings who rebelled against Him. Before leaving Jehovah they were in search of a better satisfying life outside His loving arrangement but now they're seeing it with their own eyes that lesser intelligent beings (humans) have lived a satisfying life despite having to die. So these spirits now know for sure that many humans will live forever in happiness under God's arrangement, this is the greatest pain they're having now. As their expiration date is getting ever closer they are becoming more and more vicious than ever. Of course they're working tirelessly to turn everyone against Jehovah that's why Jehovah is PLEADING with humans because we are not part of all these case, we only happened to be victims of the circumstances we find ourselves. So Jehovah has made arrangements to rescue as many as possible and the arrangement is a global family of peace loving worshipers. All those subjecting themselves willingly to this arrangement will have their names written in the book of life. So when Satan, demons, death, grave, sickness, hunger, crime, natural disasters, fear of wild breasts, pain and sorrow becomes things people will only read about in books {Revelations 20:11-15} see you there in Paradise! Luke 23:43 God bless you and may you have PEACE! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 2:04pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 2:06pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan:Watchtower Speaking from both sides of the mouth as always but MaxInDHouse will soon come and ask you to publish evidence ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:14pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
![]() maximunimpact: DappaD: |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 2:24pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 3:08pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Nice try ![]() I guess Jesus and apostles also set up a crowd funding website like donate.jw.org When JWs are caught up in one of their many lies they default to victims of percecution ![]() But most of their time is spent on delivering "vials of judgement" on Christendom ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by true2god: 3:10pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
They, the watchtower, bank on people's inability to research their past teachings to deceive. Thank God people like us understand their psychology. Emusan:They will call other people ‘apostates’, Harlots, Babylon the Great, etc but will visit same people with fake smile to sell watchtower and awake magazines to them. It is like a classic Islamic philosophy where: We smile in their faces but curse them with our heart Emusan:Like a rude boy always abusing his elders but when an elder slap him he cries persecuted, oppressed for working for Jehovah. Emusan:No JW will answer this. You better don’t waste your time. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:29pm On Jul 19, 2021*. Modified: 4:56pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
People from different races throughout the earth do study the Bible with JWs are going by my own personal experience i did gave them a tough time before submitting to their teachings. Of course i asked so many questions that's important to me! Jesus never answered all questions everyone asked him {Matthew 26:59-63} and several cases he never gave a direct yes or no {Luke 13:23} so a honest hearted individual will not be suspicious of the teacher, only double minded and indecisive ones will be suspicious even after noticing signs! John 10:20-21 ![]() true2god: |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by true2god: 4:53pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Anyways, still on the matter, can you help us reconcile these two statements from the stable of your darling organization? "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 "The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers." Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4 |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:23pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Your problem is complicated becauce your heart is not pure! ![]() If truly you believe in God and Jesus, and you trust in God's ability to organize his worshipers then you should be concerned with the group practicing pure worship not some purposeless scrutiny. In the first century the Jewish community were expecting the Messiah (Christ), prior to that time two Jewish zealots paraded themselves as the Messiah at different times before Jesus' birth but both of them happened to be impostors. So when Jesus came most Jews were questioning Jesus' credentials as the Christ while positive minded ones kept following him even though they don't have all the evidence to prove that Jesus is the Christ not until much later when God's promise about the sign the Jews will see after the New Covenant had been sealed! Act 2:16-18 compared to Joel 2:28-30 In all of these majority of the Jews were still scrutinizing Jesus' credentials without carefully meditating on the prophecies pointing to the Christ. That's exactly what is happening today! You may claim you believe in God and Christ but do you trust God's ability to fulfill his promises regarding how people during the endtime can recognize the group practicing true Christianity? If all you're after is to prove that there is no organized people practicing true Christianity then your scrutiny will be endless but if you're interested in the features and believe God can't fail then you will easily find the true Christians! ![]() true2god: |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by OkCornel(m): 5:56pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:What’s the latest question in the Bible study? |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 6:01pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Answer the question and stop dodging ![]() The two contradicting statement is it not made by Watch-tower or can you point us to where Jesus made contradictory statement in the bible? I actually like how you defend obvious lies because it makes it easier for silent observers to know you by your fruits ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:04pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
OkCornel:Next topic is about the JUDGMENT! Adam and Eve died but Satan the third culprit is still alive till today with many rebellious angels with him. What will be their end and the end of all bad people that follows them? ![]() Satan and his demons are spirits so their life is not sustained by breathing unlike Adam and Eve whose continuous existence depends on the breath in them {Genesis 2:7 compare to Psalms 146:4} so this intelligent beings can't expire naturally, but will Jehovah allow them to continue existing? Note that Jehovah doesn't destroy lives because he has the power to do so rather he lovingly delete unhappy persons because their continuous existence will not glorify Him regarding the purpose why He gave them life which is to be happy and appreciative! So Satan and his demons are now eagerly waiting for their expiration but spitefully anticipating to see God destroy everything He made whether such creatures live their lives in a way that glorify God or not! ![]() All of them are tired of existing just like humans that have messed up their lives do contemplate suicide the same way Satan and his demons are longing for extermination but they're more vicious in knowing that after their destruction some creatures (especially humans) will live forever, this is what torments them each second no wonder God's word said about Satan: Keep your senses, be watchful! Your adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour someone! 1Peter 5:8 So what is Jehovah's plan for all rebellious ones both human and spirits? Jehovah only arranged (plan) towards the extermination of spirit beings who rebelled against Him. Before leaving Jehovah they were in search of a better satisfying life outside His loving arrangement but now they're seeing it with their own eyes that lesser intelligent beings (humans) have lived a satisfying life despite having to die. So these spirits now know for sure that many humans will live forever in happiness under God's arrangement, this is the greatest pain they're having now. As their expiration date is getting ever closer they are becoming more and more vicious than ever. Of course they're working tirelessly to turn everyone against Jehovah that's why Jehovah is PLEADING with humans because we are not part of all these case, we only happened to be victims of the circumstances we find ourselves. So Jehovah has made arrangements to rescue as many as possible and the arrangement is a global family of peace loving worshipers. All those subjecting themselves willingly to this arrangement will have their names written in the book of life. So when Satan, demons, death, grave, sickness, hunger, crime, natural disasters, fear of wild breasts, pain and sorrow becomes things people will only read about in books {Revelations 20:11-15} see you there in Paradise! Luke 23:43 God bless you and may you have PEACE! |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 6:09pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Elder Max that's not the next question, the last time i checked you have not been able to reconcile the extract below from watch-tower spiritual meal: "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 "The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers." Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4 After you reconcile this two contradictory statement we can move on to the next. This is not your kingdom hall where only Watch-tower asks all the questions and provide desired answer next to it and someone just raises hand and recite it ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:15pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
maximunimpact:The highlighted below is your preconceived judgment about all the organized religion on this planet. So in other words you're not here for the purpose of finding the group practicing true Christianity, what you're doing here is to condemn all organized worship hence it's not only JWs that you're against but all religious groups in general. Meaning God is incapable of organizing His true worshipers in an orderly manner. Your FRUIT is the best in the whole wide world Sir! Matthew 7:16-18 ![]() maximunimpact: |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by 2dominate: 6:18pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:His only begotten son? Elaborate on the necessity of this |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by true2god: 6:28pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
maximunimpact:So funny. Watchtower be like 'A' for APPLE, 'B' for DOG and ordinary JWs, the footsoldiers, recite same way. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 6:43pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Why do I need a GROUP when i can go down on my knees in prayer to My God and savior Jesus Christ! I believe that Jesus died for my sins and through faith in the ransom sacrifice i am saved. What else does it require? Imagine JWs as-is is the only way to salvation it will be like asking me to climb the great wall when its obviously impossible to accomplish. instead of derailing why not straighten this extract from watch-tower spiritual meal: "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 "The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers." Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4 It must be tough giving up your own salvation in the hands of men who speaks from both sides of the mouth ![]() |
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